WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

[Ravenlocke]

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🇷🇺⚔️🇺🇦Russian Defense Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation

17 April 2024

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation.

▫️In Kupyansk direction, units of the Zapad Group of Forces have taken more advantageous lines and inflicted fire damage on manpower and hardware of 57th motorized infantry, 14th, 54th mechanized, and 77th aeromobile brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Sinkovka, Zagoruykovka (Kharkov region), and Stelmakhovka (Lugansk People's Republic).

Four counter-attacks launched by assault groups of AFU 63rd mechanized, 3rd assault brigades, and the 125th Territorial Defense Brigade have been repelled near Chervonaya Dibrova (Lugansk People's Republic), Torskoye, and Terny (Donetsk People's Republic).

The AFU losses were up to 70 Ukrainian troops, three motor vehicles, one 122-mm D-30 howitzer, two Plastun-3000 electronic reconnaissance stations, as well as one Nota electronic warfare station.

▫️In Donetsk direction, units of the Yug Group of Forces have improved the situation along the front line and inflicted fire damage on manpower and hardware of 56th mechanized, 5th, 79th air assault, 28th, 30th, and 93rd mechanized brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine close to Orekhovo-Vasilyevka, Blagodatnoye, Bogdanovka, Andreyevka, and Kurdyumovka
(Donetsk People's Republic).

In addition, three counterattacks launched by assault groups of the AFU 10th Mountain Assault Brigade and 46th Airmobile Brigade have been repelled near Vyemka and Krasnogorovka (Donetsk People's Republic).

The AFU losses were up to 480 Ukrainian troops, one tank, one armored fighting vehicle, 20 motor vehicles, one U.S.-made 155-mm M777 howitzer, one 122-mm D-30 howitzer, and one Anklav-N electronic warfare station.

▫️In Avdeyevka direction, units of the Tsentr Group of Forces have improved the tactical situation and inflicted fire damage on units of 24th, 47th, and 59th mechanized brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Novgorodskoye, Netaylovo, and Karlovka (Donetsk People's Republic).

Eight counter-attacks have been repelled by units of 25th airborne, 68th, 71st jaeger, 23rd, 115th mechanized brigades, and the 78th Separate Air Assault regiment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine close to Leninskoye, Novokalinovo, Pervomayskoye, Umanskoye, and Berdychi (Donetsk People's Republic).

The AFU losses were up to 330 Ukrainian troops, two armored fighting vehicles, three motor vehicles, and one 122-mm D-30 howitzer.

▫️In South Donetsk direction, units of the Vostok Group of Forces have improved the situation along the front line. The servicemen also have defeated units of the AFU 72nd Mechanised Brigade and the 128th Territorial Defence Brigade near Vodyanoye and Makarovka (Donetsk People's Republic).

The AFU losses were up to 80 Ukrainian troops, one tank, two motor vehicles, one 152-mm Akatsiya self-propelled artillery system, and one 122-mm D-30 howitzer.

▫️In Kherson direction, the units of the Dnepr Group of Forces have inflicted fire damage on manpower and hardware of the 126th Territorial Defence Brigade near Kazatskoye, Berislav, and Nikolayevka (Kherson region).

The AFU losses were up to 35 Ukrainian troops, five motor vehicles, as well as one 122-mm D-30 howitzer.

▫️Operational-Tactical Aviation, Missile Troops and Artillery of the Russian Groups of Forces have engaged ammunition depots of the Donetsk Operational-Tactical Group, the 125th Territorial Defense Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the terrorist units of the Russian Volunteer Corps, as well as manpower and military hardware in 132 areas.

▫️Air defense facilities have shot down 191 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles, six U.S.-made MGM-140 ATACMS operational-tactical missiles, and one French-made Hammer aerial guided bomb.

📊 In total, 583 airplanes and 270 helicopters, 21,483 unmanned aerial vehicles, 502 air defense missile systems, 15,798 tanks and other armored fighting vehicles, 1,267 combat vehicles equipped with MLRS, 8,935 field artillery guns and mortars, as well as 21,096 units of special military equipment have been destroyed during the special military operation.

Russian Defense Ministry

https://x.com/dana916/status/1780583130367152432

[Bruce G Charlton]

@Christian - I think you regard all wars as essentially the same, and evil - and that it is always evil to go to war. Therefore both sides are always culpable. And I think you regard it as naïve or ignorant for anyone to regard one side as justified, in any war.

But I disagree, for reasons already stated.

Since this is a matter of disagreement over fundamental and very general value assumptions (including religious ones), there is no point in pursuing matters further in this specific thread - so I shall desist.

[Ravenlocke]

Ukr Disaster: Ocheretino;
Krasnogorovka Falling,
Politico: War Lost,
Xi Scolds Scholz, Make Peace

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=fQJbiOOtdXM

[Ravenlocke]

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https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1780582387639791866

https://x.com/BowesChay/status/1780621913502462041

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/dana916/status/1780709053070786720

https://x.com/MaimunkaNews/status/1780647193008828551

https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1780520924430663973

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[Ravenlocke]

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‼️🇷🇺🏴‍☠️“Vampire” is trying to attack Belgorod
▪️Air defense forces shot down 14 Vampire MLRS shells over the territory of the Belgorod region, the Russian Ministry of Defense reports.
▪️Governor: 14 air targets approaching the city. According to preliminary information, there were no casualties.
⠀In the Belgorod region, as a result of an air attack by the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the village of Pulyaevka, the roof of a canopy was broken and the porch was damaged in one private house, Gladkov specified.
- RVvoenkor

https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1780719638340387151

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[shaberon]

Posted by christian (here)
I think it's the job of the alternative scene to see the bigger picture, not to pick sides, but to look at everything from a higher perspective and act accordingly. I think when enough people believe that it's either this big government or that big government that will save humanity, we're certainly doomed, and it doesn't even matter which side people pick. Picking a side in and of itself is the trap because it leads to dehumanization and collective ritual abuse.

I am wondering if there is any way to make this less abstract and into something tangible.

We understand you disagree with the Russian SMO on principle, however, it is too late. Being a fact, how does one realistically deal with it?

What is "individual sovereignty"? It sounds like something that would undermine any social contract.

I am "on a side", but it is not a government. It is, however, represented by what I see in Russian culture, and, is not, anywhere else, that I am aware of. The role of a Russian government is to provide a viable social contract among them; it may not please everyone, but there must be something to it, otherwise these events would not be possible.

Knowing that there is "another side", as Bruce said:

My understanding is that the destruction of Russia was the definite plan of the West, indeed absolutely explicitly so - over a period of thirty years, and indeed for more than a century (e.g. see the work of Terry Boardman); and that this plan had gone a long way, and was indeed accelerating.

well, yes, but as a standing governmental policy, it is continuous from Lord Palmerston, 1830s. As an ideological principle, it goes to the interpretation of Gog and Magog as Germany and Russia in the 1700s. This is very specific to English Bibles. I suppose you find it more in "splinter factions" than C of E, but, they rather remarkably destroyed the human mind for all time with a wave of this magic wand.

I don't believe that leaders are just doing war chants around flags and we are being dragged in to lower frequencies like puppies on leashes.

In Anglo and European countries, they try to do this, I guess, but I don't listen to it.

Any one of them is welcome to think of me as "the other side".

I can easily be a dumping ground for anger, fear, a Gaderene swine for whatever needs to be unleashed. It never proves any points that would make me support the western policies. By leaning towards those, Ukraine made a poor choice, like most of Europe, such as Bulgaria, where 86% of the residents wish Democracy would leave.

[Vicus]

Russian Forces Destroy Key Command & Control Point Belonging to Ukraine's 'North' Operative Command 4 hours ago

Russian armed forces destroyed the command post of the operational command Sever (lit. North) of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the Russian Ministry of Defense reported on Thursday.

"During the day, the following were destroyed: the command post of the operational command Sever of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, two launchers with a radar illuminator and guidance system of the S-300 anti-aircraft missile system, ammunition depot of the operational-tactical grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Donetsk, weapon and fuel depots of the 101st territorial defense brigade, as well as inflicted damage to enemy personnel and military equipment in 126 areas," the ministry said.

Ukraine has lost up to 590 soldiers in the Donetsk region over the past 24 hours, the Russian Defense Ministry said.
Over the given period, the Russian armed forces have repulsed seven counterattacks by Ukrainian troops in the Avdeyevka vicinity, two counterattacks in the Kupyansk direction, one counterattack in the Donetsk area and another one in the Kherson region.
"Enemy losses amounted to up to 590 military personnel, a tank and seven vehicles [in the Donetsk region]," the ministry said in a statement.
Ukraine has also lost up to 140 soldiers in the South Donetsk area and up to 130 soldiers in the Avdeyevka suburbs, the ministry added

https://sputnikglobe.com/20240418/ru...117993795.html

[Vicus]

Ukraine strikes hospital in Donbass, injuring eight – authorities 18 Apr, 2024

Kiev’s forces “deliberately” targeted a blood donation center in the town of Gorlovka, regional head Denis Pushilin has said

Ukrainian troops have struck a hospital and blood donation center in the Donbass town of Gorlovka, the head of Russia’s Donetsk People’s Republic, Denis Pushilin, has said. Eight civilians including a child were injured in the attack.

The victims sustained non-life-threatening injuries in the strike, Pushilin wrote on Telegram on Thursday.

The Ukrainian forces “deliberately” targeted the town center where healthcare facilities are located, he claimed. Both the hospital and the donation center were damaged in the strike.

Gorlovka Mayor Ivan Prikhodko published photos and videos from the scene showing damaged buildings, including the hospital and the blood donor center. The images show smashed windows and the area nearby littered with debris. One clip also showed destroyed and damaged furniture in a room at the healthcare facility.

Kiev’s troops used the US-supplied High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS) in the attack, according to preliminary data gathered by the Russian authorities.

Washington has sent dozens of these multiple rocket launchers to Ukraine since mid-2022. The systems provided to Kiev have a range of up to 160km (100 miles) when equipped with longer-range ATACMS missiles. Other projectiles launched by HIMARS and available to the Ukrainian military have a range of around 70km.

According to Pushilin, Kiev’s forces carried out a total of 12 attacks on Thursday – missile and drone strikes – targeting Gorlovka as well as Donetsk and some other Donbass settlements. Cluster munitions were used in some of these attacks, the official said.

https://swentr.site/russia/596193-uk...pital-donbass/

[Vicus]

“I’ll Shoot Them All”: Ukrainian Soldiers Threaten To Go AWOL If They Are Not Demobilised 18.04.2024



According to the Ukrainian portal Strana, Kiev is facing problems in increasing the number of military personnel as a new mobilisation law will take at least eight months to be imposed. Worsening the situation, military personnel in Odessa are threatening to abandon their positions and even kill if the new law does not allow them to demobilise.

On April 11, Ukraine’s Verkhovna Rada (Parliament) approved a bill on expanding mobilisation for the military. The National Security and Defence Committee removed the provision on demobilisation from the bill on the eve of its presentation to the Verkhovna Rada for its second reading. Dmitry Lazutkin, a representative of the Ukrainian Ministry of Defence, later said that a separate bill on demobilisation was planned, which would take eight months.

Ukrainian journalists in Odessa questioned military personnel about their thoughts towards the government’s decision to exclude demobilisation from the bill on military conscription.

In that case, “I will leave the unit without permission,” one of the soldiers told the Ukrainian portal Strana.

Another Ukrainian serviceman said that the deputies of the Verkhovna Rada should go to the front on an equal footing with them, whilst another believes that changes are necessary in the country and that it is not possible to fight with the same soldiers all the time, making demobilisation necessary.

“I’ll shoot them all. They don’t have such a right… So now I get up and go back to the war whilst they have grown their bellies and will sit in the Verkhovna Rada? This shouldn’t happen,” said another soldier.

“There is the expression ‘Servant of the People.’ It is not we who must serve them, but they who must serve us,” added another, in reference to the name of the ruling party founded by Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky.

These threats to go AWOL come as the New York Times reported that since the start of Russia’s special military operation, thousands of Ukrainian men have attempted to flee across the Tisza River from mandatory conscription. According to Romanian authorities cited by the American newspaper, approximately 6,000 men have arrived in their country across the river since February 2022.

continue: https://southfront.press/ill-shoot-t...t-demobilised/

[Vicus]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZVvazK2w-N0

4 hours ago

[norman]

Meanwhile,

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

Why isn’t Europe giving more money to help Ukraine? Why is it that the United States is over $100 Billion Dollars into the Ukraine War more than Europe, and we have an Ocean between us as separation! Why can’t Europe equalize or match the money put in by the United States of America in order to help a Country in desperate need? As everyone agrees, Ukrainian Survival and Strength should be much more important to Europe than to us, but it is also important to us! GET MOVING EUROPE! In addition, I am the only one who speaks for “ME” and, while it is a total mess caused by Crooked Joe Biden and the Incompetent Democrats, if I were President, this War would have never started!

Apr 18, 2024, 6:55 PM


https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldT...93507314520477

[Ravenlocke]

Ukr Collapse: Rus Holds 40% Krasnogorovka,
Storms Ocheretino, Ukr Mutinies;
Israel Prepares Strike

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8ZUKYGiyaTs

[Ravenlocke]

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🇷🇺⚔️🇺🇦Russian artillery wipes out NATO-made electronic warfare system in South Donetsk direction

122-mm D-30 howitzers of the 36th Combined Arms Army (Vostok Group of Forces) destroyed a NATO-made electronic warfare system and an ammunition depot of the Ukrainian Armed Forces which was close to the concealed EW system detected by an unmanned aerial vehicle.

Russian Defense Ministry


https://x.com/dana916/status/1781072215116521763