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    What an odd romantic view of war this is

    https://t.me/anna_news/32933


    I'm not afraid of dying, i'm afraid of the idea that the world will keep going and i won't be there anymore

    There's a future in which i may not be around, and it hurts a bit to think about it, i won't be there to see it, and i won't be around to reply or say the things i wanted to say, or anything at all. It's about that only, will someone care or miss you? Does it even matter? It happens in a single minute mostly, from live to death, it's a Angry/Sad affair for one's soul, you regret not being able to do much about it, and there's nothing that can change it

    No one who creates videos like that with cool music, must probably have seen the other side of what that shelling looks like, or have smelled the air when it gets full of blood and the smell of death people. There's nothing romantic about that

    Like this



    But you never see the people on the ground burning and their eyes and skin melting away while they desperately try to remove the flames away with their bare hands
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    As said before, but one has to wonder, how the people selling those rations, manage to get them in the first place?

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    Little bit of humor lol



    From comment on the post:
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    I'm sorry lol, could not resist, as dumb as it is, i did laugh
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    https://twitter.com/Russ_Warrior/sta...58978962698240


    https://twitter.com/Russ_Warrior/sta...59320425168902
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    Dear Michael and Shaberon,

    I really appreciate reading your ongoing discussion but find it a little jarring to go from a warfare post to religious history. I would be very interested to read that elsewhere, like its own thread perhaps?



    Apologies Bill if I've stepped on your toes in your own living room.

    You are quite right Ewan, I thought so myself. Nonetheless, I think there is a clear relationship between the idea of "Empire" (embodied by the Empire of Evil at present) and the idea of "Russophobia" – and that is the point I think Shaberon is making, if I may speak in his stead. Such historical perspective is definitely useful as our "master manipulators" have quite a keen sense of history themselves, although they claim the contrary (Bush shrugging off the "no Nato expansion promise" with a "times change" argument). I do not feel like adding more philological or philosophical pepper to the discussion however, so this exchange of ours may very well find its natural course elsewhere or outside of the forum.

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    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    Quote Posted by DaveToo (here)
    This is a very good video produced by a Russian living in Russia, telling about its history
    for the past 30 odd years from his perspective.
    Well worth the 40 minutes viewing.

    RIP RUSSIA | 1991-2022 Russia's History Through My Eyes
    "How supportive Russian people were of this 'new country'" lol

    He was naive and much more than that, and ate up all the western propaganda. I know people like him, they wanted Russia to be "American" like, just like in Mexico people are disgusted by expressions of indigenous people and even say so online, that they are ashamed indigenous people are still around and are not 'presentable' to the outside world

    "It was El Dorado for everyone who knew where to look"... Translation: The New Russians are the oligarchs the west speak about so much Why not say so directly? The Land of Opportunity and so on, a dog eat dog world is what that was, in the end

    He clearly wasn't part of the "New Russians" lmao! Maybe he feels betrayed since he did not get any of the "Russian gold"

    He went to study in the US, no really! That explains a lot "My life was changed by that experience"

    I have friends like that, they complain constantly about this and that, instead of trying to fix or make the country better without causing it to lose its identity and culture. No, instead, they want everyone to drop it all and become a culture slave of the US culture, it's always the same time, weak minded people thinking it's always greener on the other side, no attempt to make it greener here, but instead let's just drop it all to the trash and play pretend that this is America

    So i suppose all US citizens who go live in Mexico must go back to the US and try to change it so that it becomes Mexican in all ways, and then complain a lot about how things are not the same and say "RIP the US" ...
    Everything that he said made sense to me, that's why I posted the video.

    You will always have an advantage over him as he is not here to defend his position.

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    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    If you are not happy or proud of your country, then change it, do something, go out, stop complaining like an idiot and actually go out and do something about it. Or shut up or go away in silence and stop talking about it


    This is like a global malaise. Same thing here!

    Same as I saw from the late Andre Vitchek who grew up mostly around Pilsen. He gave a lot of articles about how most eastern European countries were so eager to embrace Liberal Democracy, and once it hit the ground and devoured their cultures, recent figures show that 86% of Bulgarians are against Democracy.

    But it is the same as here, and, what you have said is basically what people have always told me.

    I still do not know what to "do", and, every possible metric will show that we have been going exactly backwards ever since I learned to talk. Otherwise they would not have liberalized Czech, Bulgaria, etc., in fact it will be difficult to find any moves ever made that "represent me". I have only been able to get by with this basic division:

    Outer world: you can keep quiet, or you can complain. Anything that sounds like approval or that there might be something good about it, is a lie.

    Inner world: this is where the good stuff lives, and the only direction with a better conversation.


    I am not sure if every generation simply must be rebellious for its own sake; Thomas Jefferson said we should perhaps have a revolution every generation. But mixed-up angry energy of youth is captured and used by "color revolutions" and so on. Nevertheless, having gone beyond the point where I could possibly be involved with "youthful rebellion", it still seems to me that something on that scale is necessary. But it would have to be more purposeful than Antifa mobs.

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    I think there is a clear relationship between the idea of "Empire" (embodied by the Empire of Evil at present) and the idea of "Russophobia" – and that is the point I think Shaberon is making, if I may speak in his stead.


    Yes, very close to that.

    For several years, I probably would have accepted that it was opinion, conjecture, potential, etc., but for the most part, everything that I would have said on my own, shows up whenever it is explained what is being fought for.


    It has always seemed to me, if the U. S. a long time ago would have simply said we are Empire of Oil, might is right, this is what we do, then we could have simply decided whether we want to cooperate or not. Instead we got a package of Lies. For no good reason, the deceit is vastly more aimed at harming Russia than it is helping anyone around here, so we have a problem.


    For example, Kissinger turned out to be enough of a realist that about ten years or so ago, he decided the monopolar concept was just not going to work out. He was maybe a "lucky guy" who worked his way through a modern Tammany Hall and, at least, achieved power by providing results to his superiors. This is reflected in his blurbs recently posted. We got a different tone from the silver spoon of money, which the fetal Mr. Soros was composed of, as he and some flunky shared some nonsense:


    "The invasion may have been the beginning of the Third World War and our civilization may not survive it," Soros said in the speech. "The best and perhaps the only way to preserve our civilization is to defeat Putin as soon as possible. That's the bottom line."

    More to Soros' bold statements, he admitted that although he could not predict the outcome of the current crisis in Ukraine, he believed Ukraine had "a fighting chance."

    "Repressive regimes are now in the ascendant and open societies are under siege," Soros said, referring to both Moscow and Beijing. "Today China and Russia present the greatest threat to open society."


    In the meantime, in Davos, US Congressman Seth Moulton (D-MA) said on Tuesday that the collective West, led by the United States, is engaged in a proxy war with Russia in Ukraine and the latter's role is to do the fighting on the ground.

    “Well, of course, it's a proxy war in a sense that, you know, Ukraine is doing the fighting, we're providing all the munitions and much more technology and other things. And in so many ways, this is a battle between Russia and the West, the West largely represented and led by us,” Moulton said.




    Those guys are clinging to something that I cannot even identify. Some kind of a "we have to win" supremacy attached to the bizarre belief it may work, given the situation. I don't know whether to call it artificial, based on re-written history, altered scriptures, or maybe the sheer love of the feeling of hatred itself. Is it an Ashkenazi thing, displaced by early western pogroms and then from the 1600s taking place around Ukraine? Mixed with Catholicity? I just don't see how something we could define as an "adult" can even begin to make the kind of statements as above. Unless they are just covering their money and crimes.


    No, I would say that a lot of the more detailed religious points, such as views on the Trinity between Monophysites and others, are that directly related to what is happening. However, a lot of the broader points, are, like why is it in the Orthodox culture to not return the favor and have decimated Paris or Berlin, or rally for the major reduction of others in any way?

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    Quote Posted by shaberon (here)
    Quote Posted by Michel Leclerc (here)
    I think there is a clear relationship between the idea of "Empire" (embodied by the Empire of Evil at present) and the idea of "Russophobia" – and that is the point I think Shaberon is making, if I may speak in his stead.


    Yes, very close to that.

    For several years, I probably would have accepted that it was opinion, conjecture, potential, etc., but for the most part, everything that I would have said on my own, shows up whenever it is explained what is being fought for.


    It has always seemed to me, if the U. S. a long time ago would have simply said we are Empire of Oil, might is right, this is what we do, then we could have simply decided whether we want to cooperate or not. Instead we got a package of Lies. For no good reason, the deceit is vastly more aimed at harming Russia than it is helping anyone around here, so we have a problem.


    For example, Kissinger turned out to be enough of a realist that about ten years or so ago, he decided the monopolar concept was just not going to work out. He was maybe a "lucky guy" who worked his way through a modern Tammany Hall and, at least, achieved power by providing results to his superiors. This is reflected in his blurbs recently posted. We got a different tone from the silver spoon of money, which the fetal Mr. Soros was composed of, as he and some flunky shared some nonsense:


    "The invasion may have been the beginning of the Third World War and our civilization may not survive it," Soros said in the speech. "The best and perhaps the only way to preserve our civilization is to defeat Putin as soon as possible. That's the bottom line."

    More to Soros' bold statements, he admitted that although he could not predict the outcome of the current crisis in Ukraine, he believed Ukraine had "a fighting chance."

    "Repressive regimes are now in the ascendant and open societies are under siege," Soros said, referring to both Moscow and Beijing. "Today China and Russia present the greatest threat to open society."


    In the meantime, in Davos, US Congressman Seth Moulton (D-MA) said on Tuesday that the collective West, led by the United States, is engaged in a proxy war with Russia in Ukraine and the latter's role is to do the fighting on the ground.

    “Well, of course, it's a proxy war in a sense that, you know, Ukraine is doing the fighting, we're providing all the munitions and much more technology and other things. And in so many ways, this is a battle between Russia and the West, the West largely represented and led by us,” Moulton said.




    Those guys are clinging to something that I cannot even identify. Some kind of a "we have to win" supremacy attached to the bizarre belief it may work, given the situation. I don't know whether to call it artificial, based on re-written history, altered scriptures, or maybe the sheer love of the feeling of hatred itself. Is it an Ashkenazi thing, displaced by early western pogroms and then from the 1600s taking place around Ukraine? Mixed with Catholicity? I just don't see how something we could define as an "adult" can even begin to make the kind of statements as above. Unless they are just covering their money and crimes.


    No, I would say that a lot of the more detailed religious points, such as views on the Trinity between Monophysites and others, are that directly related to what is happening. However, a lot of the broader points, are, like why is it in the Orthodox culture to not return the favor and have decimated Paris or Berlin, or rally for the major reduction of others in any way?
    In the Moscow region, last year there was a mandate for masks on restaurants and coffee shops, it was illegal to be inside without the mask, but all business started ignoring it, people also ignored it and then when the city sent their dogs to remind/punish the business and people, everyone also ignored them and kept going as if nothing was wrong. Then when the city tried to enforce the mandate by closing some of the offending business, every other store immediately closed as well. Eventually every business said "we are going to close all the stores and bring down the economy of the city because of this ridiculous mandate", then magically the mandate was backtracked and people were able to go freely around without the mask

    So i suppose that was an example of how to do something to change things, without violence and without marching or complaining at all. That's more like the kind of stuff i think about

    Like this also, if you can't get access to sites outside Russia like Facebook or others, and don't like the alternatives, you can complain and even move to a western country, or you can do what guys like these do, create a list of continually updated vpns and proxies that can be used to go around the limitations

    https://t.me/Best_MTProx
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    Quote Posted by DaveToo (here)
    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    Quote Posted by DaveToo (here)
    This is a very good video produced by a Russian living in Russia, telling about its history
    for the past 30 odd years from his perspective.
    Well worth the 40 minutes viewing.

    RIP RUSSIA | 1991-2022 Russia's History Through My Eyes
    "How supportive Russian people were of this 'new country'" lol

    He was naive and much more than that, and ate up all the western propaganda. I know people like him, they wanted Russia to be "American" like, just like in Mexico people are disgusted by expressions of indigenous people and even say so online, that they are ashamed indigenous people are still around and are not 'presentable' to the outside world

    "It was El Dorado for everyone who knew where to look"... Translation: The New Russians are the oligarchs the west speak about so much Why not say so directly? The Land of Opportunity and so on, a dog eat dog world is what that was, in the end

    He clearly wasn't part of the "New Russians" lmao! Maybe he feels betrayed since he did not get any of the "Russian gold"

    He went to study in the US, no really! That explains a lot "My life was changed by that experience"

    I have friends like that, they complain constantly about this and that, instead of trying to fix or make the country better without causing it to lose its identity and culture. No, instead, they want everyone to drop it all and become a culture slave of the US culture, it's always the same time, weak minded people thinking it's always greener on the other side, no attempt to make it greener here, but instead let's just drop it all to the trash and play pretend that this is America

    So i suppose all US citizens who go live in Mexico must go back to the US and try to change it so that it becomes Mexican in all ways, and then complain a lot about how things are not the same and say "RIP the US" ...
    Everything that he said made sense to me, that's why I posted the video.

    You will always have an advantage over him as he is not here to defend his position.
    Well it could be said the opposite is also true, he has a bigger audience and a youtube channel, i don't. I'm just expressing my opinion here

    I also went overseas to study and spent most of the past 7 years out there, but i don't feel like throwing away all my culture and replace it with the new one i learned over there, i don't want that, i want my culture to remain special and to stand on its own, but also to incorporate new things into it learned from living overseas.

    I'm not going to complain about things that may be different or 'better' on the other side of the world. If i want to live the full exprience i should go there, and not expect to somehow replace this country's way of living with another one's i like better

    I don't know if that makes sense anymore, but i do see a very similar/shared way of behavior around the war thing from some groups of people, and they all share one thing, they feel Russia is not "western enough" and would like it to be a copy of the USA.

    The last guy i posted about, he complains that he can't monetize his youtube channel, that's the entire reason he moved to another country, because of his youtube channel Is an inconvenience for him, so now Russia sucks because he can't earn money posting dumb videos on youtube. I don't think that's very solid love for your country, if such inconvenience causes you to reject it and throw everything away

    I did not tried to attack you personally, if it sounded like that i'm sorry, i did not meant to

    I just kind of don't like how some of those people act, they forgot the meaning of "the grass is always greener on the other side"
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    Quote The militants of the battalion of the Cherkasy TDefense refuse to fight and recorded a video message:
    1. On May 22, we were sent to the front line to carry out a combat mission;
    2. Heavy weapons were not provided;
    3. We refused to carry out the task;
    4. Our weapons and protective equipment were taken from us;
    5. We are threatened with arrest and prosecution;
    6. We have two "dead" and a large number of "wounded";
    7. There is no qualified medical care and funding;
    8. We don't want to be cannon fodder.
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    another tactical analysis by Austrian military institute of May 20.
    interesting for me was that the UAF use the Starlink satelite system for artillery fire control....


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    https://twitter.com/MoonofA/status/1529493623657603074


    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/0...-no-sense.html

    Ukraine Propaganda - BBC Tries To Sell Telegram Rumors That Make No Sense
    May 25, 2022

    Do they really think that the people are dumb enough to believe such ****?

    Russian media: retired Russian major general killed in skies over Ukraine

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    Which 'Russian media' one might asks:

    A [Russian] fighter has been shot down in the skies over Ukraine, and Kanamat Botashev, a retired Major General of the Russian Air Force, was killed.
    Source: Russian edition of BBC with reference to Botashov's three former subordinates

    Details: Subordinates who had kept in touch with Botashev after leaving the service agreed to comment on condition of anonymity for reasons of personal safety.

    Oh, the 'Russian media' is in fact the Russian language site of the BBC World Service which is financed and directed by the British government's Foreign Office. The same BBC World Service which since March has suspended its operation and which had its its website blocked in Russia.

    That BBC World Service will surly have reliable sources for making such nonsense claims:

    One of Botashev's former colleagues confirmed that a retired general was carrying out missions in a Su-25 aircraft in Ukraine.
    In one of the Russian Telegram channels, this participant reported on Botashev's death ...

    'Russian Telegram channels' are anonymous and also widely used by Ukrainians. They are often unreliable.

    The picture above is somewhat curious too. Its resolution is too low to read the name patch of the pictured officer who does totally not look like 63 year old retired man.

    The plane the Ukrainians allegedly shot down was a Su-25 ground attack aircraft. Why then is the 'retired Major-General Botashev', should he actually exist, pictured in front of an Su-34, a supersonic fighter-bomber. According to Tineye the photo was first published on May 23 by a news site in Tbilisi, Georgia. There is no metadata in the picture and I am unable to find any caption for it.

    The whole story makes absolutely no sense:

    It is unclear how the 63-year-old retired general found himself at the controls of the Su-25 in Ukraine.
    ...
    Botashev commanded a regiment of the Guards Air Base in Voronezh. His military career came to an end in June 2012, when he was accused of crashing a Su-27 fighter near Petrozavodsk. The general asked his friend-colonel to let him fly a Su-27, a flight permit he did not have.
    So the dude was kicked out of the military? He hasn't flown military planes for 10 years? Somehow he steals an Su-25, which he probably did not know how to fly, and gets shot down over Ukraine? Yeah, that makes totally sense ...

    What will the BBC World Service editors try to sell us next? Bridges?
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    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    Quote Posted by DaveToo (here)

    Everything that he said made sense to me, that's why I posted the video.

    You will always have an advantage over him as he is not here to defend his position.
    Well it could be said the opposite is also true, he has a bigger audience and a youtube channel, i don't. I'm just expressing my opinion here

    I also went overseas to study and spent most of the past 7 years out there, but i don't feel like throwing away all my culture and replace it with the new one i learned over there, i don't want that, i want my culture to remain special and to stand on its own, but also to incorporate new things into it learned from living overseas.

    I'm not going to complain about things that may be different or 'better' on the other side of the world. If i want to live the full exprience i should go there, and not expect to somehow replace this country's way of living with another one's i like better

    I don't know if that makes sense anymore, but i do see a very similar/shared way of behavior around the war thing from some groups of people, and they all share one thing, they feel Russia is not "western enough" and would like it to be a copy of the USA.

    The last guy i posted about, he complains that he can't monetize his youtube channel, that's the entire reason he moved to another country, because of his youtube channel Is an inconvenience for him, so now Russia sucks because he can't earn money posting dumb videos on youtube. I don't think that's very solid love for your country, if such inconvenience causes you to reject it and throw everything away

    I did not tried to attack you personally, if it sounded like that i'm sorry, i did not meant to

    I just kind of don't like how some of those people act, they forgot the meaning of "the grass is always greener on the other side"
    I was just going by what I saw in the video...

    You may be misrepresenting his position just a wee bit.
    He abandoned the U.S. (returned to Russia) because that's where he felt more at home.
    If he truly loved the U.S., all it stood for and its 'perks' he would have stayed there.

    The past ten years he has seen Russia reverting more and more to the government controls and way of life of the U.S.S.R.
    He can say that, because he experienced it, first hand.

    I know you fought in the army for your country, but that does not mean you must give them your allegiance for the rest of your life.

    My view of my country has totally changed the past couple of years. I do not have any allegiance to it at all.
    And I am no longer proud of it.

    If anyone wants to go after me for 'abandoning' my country (Canada), go for it!
    I can defend my position (I can't defend the guy in the video).

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    https://twitter.com/Levi_godman/stat...69780092522496


    https://twitter.com/Levi_godman/stat...69799998775299
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    My experience from working in an airplane factory said that something was fishy about the number on the plane. It looks like very sloppy Photoshopping.
    For what it is worth.

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    From Gleb Bazov

    @MaximGrigoryev reports: We have just discovered a mass grave (up to 300 people) near the territory of the old cemetery of Mariupol.

    Witnesses say that the mass burial was carried out on March 6-8, 2022 by the Ukrainian military when Mariupol was under Ukrainian control.

    The information is shocking. We will check everything thoroughly.

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    Quote Posted by DaveToo (here)
    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    Quote Posted by DaveToo (here)

    Everything that he said made sense to me, that's why I posted the video.

    You will always have an advantage over him as he is not here to defend his position.
    Well it could be said the opposite is also true, he has a bigger audience and a youtube channel, i don't. I'm just expressing my opinion here

    I also went overseas to study and spent most of the past 7 years out there, but i don't feel like throwing away all my culture and replace it with the new one i learned over there, i don't want that, i want my culture to remain special and to stand on its own, but also to incorporate new things into it learned from living overseas.

    I'm not going to complain about things that may be different or 'better' on the other side of the world. If i want to live the full exprience i should go there, and not expect to somehow replace this country's way of living with another one's i like better

    I don't know if that makes sense anymore, but i do see a very similar/shared way of behavior around the war thing from some groups of people, and they all share one thing, they feel Russia is not "western enough" and would like it to be a copy of the USA.

    The last guy i posted about, he complains that he can't monetize his youtube channel, that's the entire reason he moved to another country, because of his youtube channel Is an inconvenience for him, so now Russia sucks because he can't earn money posting dumb videos on youtube. I don't think that's very solid love for your country, if such inconvenience causes you to reject it and throw everything away

    I did not tried to attack you personally, if it sounded like that i'm sorry, i did not meant to

    I just kind of don't like how some of those people act, they forgot the meaning of "the grass is always greener on the other side"
    I was just going by what I saw in the video...

    You may be misrepresenting his position just a wee bit.
    He abandoned the U.S. (returned to Russia) because that's where he felt more at home.
    If he truly loved the U.S., all it stood for and its 'perks' he would have stayed there.

    The past ten years he has seen Russia reverting more and more to the government controls and way of life of the U.S.S.R.
    He can say that, because he experienced it, first hand.

    I know you fought in the army for your country, but that does not mean you must give them your allegiance for the rest of your life.

    My view of my country has totally changed the past couple of years. I do not have any allegiance to it at all.
    And I am no longer proud of it.

    If anyone wants to go after me for 'abandoning' my country (Canada), go for it!
    I can defend my position (I can't defend the guy in the video).
    I actually fought for Donbass, Ukraine as a volunteer rebel, i have never been officially part of the Russian military or have fought for Russia. In fact i resent their lack of support back then, because we were winning and making great progress and we never got the support we hoped and asked for, they simply didn't do it and then we started losing and having to turn back and leave already liberated territory

    If we had the support we asked for from Russia back then, this war would not be happening right now, it would have ended back then 7 years ago but that's not how things turned out, only Crimea had the luxury of full support and you can see the difference there

    So i don't have allegiance to Russia in the way it may seem, i dislike several things, but it is what it is and i don't intend to criticize it non stop, instead i'm trying to change it but without losing its identity.

    I don't expect other people to come fix it, i'll do it myself. Because even if i'm not in full control, i still believe in "Who if not us" and i follow that in all life ways

    --

    What i mean from guys like that is that they return home and then criticize every little thing while not realizing how things truly are, they keep comparing against other country they think is better but do little much more than that to make things better. They don't seem to want to improve what is there and more like replace what they see as "wrong", and replace it with the same or worse thing but one that is made in the image of the other country they admire.

    Here's an example of this kind of mentality

    Not sure if you are aware of the historical traditions for bus stops in Soviet Russia?
    https://www.thisiscolossal.com/2017/...topher-herwig/
    Quote Photographer Christopher Herwig has circled the former Soviet Union, exploring the most remote areas of Georgia, Russia, and Ukraine to find and photograph its unique bus stops. After the success of his first book Soviet Bus Stops, he decided to explore the subject matter again for his new follow-up collection Soviet Bus Stops Volume II. In this book Herwig focuses on Russia rather than its former Soviet counterparts, driving nearly 10,000 miles around the massive country finding its incredibly diverse transportation shelters.
    Historically, all bus stops in Soviet times were unique artistic creations, some of them beautiful and some vey ugly but still unique, this is something that has changed over time and then some years ago there were people complaining that the old bus stops did not match the surroundings and asked the local governments to tear them down entirely and build new 'modern' ones

    In reality what they wanted was the fake 'prosperity' look and feel of bus stops like this one


    See because if it looks like that then it means the city is modern and in visual agreement with the current times, and rich and so on, it's the image of this modernity that they wanted to display (in short, it looks westernized)

    Instead of destroying the bus stops, they achieved to put less and less money into keeping them alive and in good state, so that the old bus stops are decaying badly now ,and eventually will end up destroyed anyway due to no maintenance or care (and then replaced by simple but low cost generic bus stops)


    But it would have been easier to say "we don't want to have that Soviet stuff here anymore, take it down and build western like bus stops, and make them all look exactly the same all over the city", because we don't care about our previous identity and we want to erase it and become more integrated with the look and feel of modern western like prosperity

    That was the actual intention hidden behind destroying cultural assets, in the end. Now they complain that the buildings are decaying and becoming a danger for the public and so on, but they are also same ones doing all kinds of dirty tricks to remove the budget to keep the bus stops in good shape!

    They will eventually get their western like generic and cheap bus stops, with ads on the sides, and then they will feel they are more western like, no one needs old artistic soviet unique crap, it's expensive and behind the times!

    This is very off topic, sorry. I'll stop now
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