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    Active Duty NATO-Country Troops Found Beheaded and Hands Cut-off in Soledar Ukraine
    30 JANUARY 2023

    warning! graphic images

    Russian troops making successful progress into Soledar, Ukraine, are coming upon hideous scenes. Former ACTIVE-DUTY NATO TROOPS, with their HEADS and HANDS CUT-OFF to prevent/Delay their identification. Ukraine is desperate to conceal NATO active troops fighting Russians.
    The brief video below contains horrifying and graphic images of the dead bodies of NATO active duty troops, beheaded and without hands. The video shows gruesome and horrifying images of actual death. Viewer discretion is strongly advised:

    Making it all the more horrible, the Russian forensic examiners reveal these troops WERE ALIVE when their heads and hands were cut off. Pooling of blood from the wounds makes clear the hearts of these men were still pumping when their heads and hands were cut off. This seems to indicate the Ukrainians MURDERED the active-duty NATO troops so they could not be captured alive, which would prove their active duty status!

    Whether or not the men were alive when they were beheaded and behanded, the hideous reality is that Ukraine did this to prevent identification of these men as ACTIVE NATO TROOPS . . . active duty NATO troops being in direct war, fighting against Russia.

    For months, NATO mouthpieces have repeatedly denied they are active participants in the was. This video gives lie to those claims.



    UPDATE 6:35 AM EST --

    Troops from the Russian Private Military Contractor "WAGNER PMC" have found similar beheaded troops in Bakhmut. They managed to identify the troops from their cellular telephones. In Bakhmut, the troops were from Poland and . . . . . . . . . Israel.


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    Key Donbass city faces encirclement – official
    1 Feb, 2023 08:53

    Russian troops have positioned themselves to prevent the resupply of Ukrainian troops in Artyomovsk, a key aide claims

    Russian troops are now positioned to attack the only road that Kiev can use to resupply troops in Artyomovsk, a gubernatorial aide has claimed. The city that Ukraine calls Bakhmut is of strategic importance as part of Ukrainian defense lines in Donbass.

    Yan Gagin, a military expert who serves as an adviser to Denis Pushiln, the acting head of the Donetsk People’s Republic, said Russia has already hit enemy supply convoys near Artyomovsk.

    Speaking on Russian television on Wednesday, he said it was a matter of time before the road is “fully controlled,” paving the way for the capture of the city, which he described as being “in an operative encirclement.”

    Artyomovsk is part of a 70km Ukrainian defense line created since Kiev initiated the fighting in Donbass in 2014. Russia claims sovereignty over the city along with the rest of the Donetsk People’s Republic. The province joined Russia in October after a referendum, which Kiev rejected as a “sham.”

    There have been reports of Russian advancement near Artyomovsk in recent weeks. After intensive fighting in mid-January, Russian troops captured the town of Soledar, located just northeast of the city.

    Pushilin warned the media against overhyping the importance of Artyomovsk or any other particular settlement for the outcome of the military operation. The Ukrainian side attached symbolic value to it, as they previously did with Soledar, he argued in an interview on Tuesday.

    “We’ve seen this story about a small town… that was touted as invincible. Plenty of Ukrainian soldiers got grinded there because they didn’t spare any,” he said.

    Artyomovsk has strategic value because its capture would allow further advancement, Pushilin acknowledged. But losing other towns and cities would do damage of similar scale, he said.


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    Ukraine attacks pipeline pumping Russian oil to EU – Transneft
    1 Feb, 2023 15:32

    The oil transport company says the strike failed to cause significant damage and the Druzhba pipeline is operating normally

    A Ukrainian rocket has reportedly struck near an oil pumping station connected to the Druzhba pipeline in Russia’s Bryansk Region, the operator Transneft claimed on Wednesday.

    Speaking to the TASS news agency, Igor Demin, a spokesman for the company, said the shell landed on the territory of the Novozybkovo station in the late hours of January 31. He noted that the attempted attack ultimately failed to cause any casualties or hinder the work of the pipeline.

    According to initial reporting by the Mash news agency, the strike was carried out using a Tochka-U rocket. Workers reportedly found a 20-meter crater on the territory of the station, which lost power as a result of the attack.

    Demin explained that the Novozybkovo oil pumping station, which was the apparent target, is only temporarily used at peak times on the Druzhba pipeline and was last turned on in 2022 for only a few hours. He noted that Transneft workers are currently repairing the damage caused by the attack and that the pipeline continues to operate normally.

    The Druzhba (Friendship) oil pipeline is one of the longest in the world and connects eastern parts of Russia to several points in Europe, including Ukraine, Belarus, Poland and Germany.

    The segment that was apparently being targeted by Kiev’s forces on Tuesday is located some 39km from the Russian-Ukrainian border and leads directly into Belarus, where it branches off into two sections: one going to Germany and Poland and the other delivering oil to Ukraine, Hungary, Slovakia, Austria and the Czech Republic. Germany, however, has not received any oil since the start of the year after Berlin and Poland both pledged to stop all imports of Russian crude.

    According to Bryansk Governor Aleksander Bogomaz, Kiev’s forces also launched several artillery strikes against civilian targets across the region on Tuesday. Although no casualties have been reported, Bogomaz said the attack damaged over a dozen residential buildings, a WWII memorial, and a shop. The strikes also cut off power to several villages, he said, later adding that these issues had been promptly resolved by emergency services

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    Active Duty NATO-Country Troops Found Beheaded and Hands Cut-off in Soledar Ukraine
    30 JANUARY 2023

    warning! graphic images

    Russian troops making successful progress into Soledar, Ukraine, are coming upon hideous scenes. Former ACTIVE-DUTY NATO TROOPS, with their HEADS and HANDS CUT-OFF to prevent/Delay their identification. Ukraine is desperate to conceal NATO active troops fighting Russians.
    The brief video below contains horrifying and graphic images of the dead bodies of NATO active duty troops, beheaded and without hands. The video shows gruesome and horrifying images of actual death. Viewer discretion is strongly advised:

    Making it all the more horrible, the Russian forensic examiners reveal these troops WERE ALIVE when their heads and hands were cut off. Pooling of blood from the wounds makes clear the hearts of these men were still pumping when their heads and hands were cut off. This seems to indicate the Ukrainians MURDERED the active-duty NATO troops so they could not be captured alive, which would prove their active duty status!

    Whether or not the men were alive when they were beheaded and behanded, the hideous reality is that Ukraine did this to prevent identification of these men as ACTIVE NATO TROOPS . . . active duty NATO troops being in direct war, fighting against Russia.

    For months, NATO mouthpieces have repeatedly denied they are active participants in the was. This video gives lie to those claims.



    UPDATE 6:35 AM EST --

    Troops from the Russian Private Military Contractor "WAGNER PMC" have found similar beheaded troops in Bakhmut. They managed to identify the troops from their cellular telephones. In Bakhmut, the troops were from Poland and . . . . . . . . . Israel.


    https://halturnerradioshow.com/index...oledar-ukraine
    Hi, just a minor observation.

    Quote Pooling of blood from the wounds makes clear the hearts of these men were still pumping when their heads and hands were cut off.
    This is not evident from the actual image on the video. On braving the comments appearing below the video others noticed this also.
    -As one remarked.

    "Something's not right here".

    Reminded me of a butcher's shop or abbatoir, clean cut joints, bone and sinew visible, no trace of blood.

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    From 53s onwards. Listen to this insane, sociopathic woman minister state the deluded, suicidal "terms" it has for Russia and/or any other diplomatic discussions.

    She's almost a parody of herself talking like a ridiculous James Bond villain, wanting "victory first" before even talking to Putin while confidently asserting it has been all Russian aggression with no justification.


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    Quote Posted by happyuk (here)
    From 53s onwards. Listen to this insane, sociopathic woman minister state the deluded, suicidal "terms" it has for Russia and/or any other diplomatic discussions.

    She's almost a parody of herself talking like a ridiculous James Bond villain, wanting "victory first" before even talking to Putin while confidently asserting it has been all Russian aggression with no justification.

    Listening to what the BBC (a deep state broadcaster) newsreader is alluding to in getting into talks "sooner rather than later" (his emphasis), I would surmise that they're already calling it quits.

    It wouldn't surprise me if they string Biden up to be the fall guy and the deep state unlatch itself from this money pit that is Ukraine and dig in somewhere else.

    Biden will be blamed for everything across the western world and a new puppet will be put into the chair with the same script.

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    All interesting analyses above, but something is missing. There's got to be an explanation for the apparently erratic behaviour from so many senior officials on the 'western' side. They're not exactly stupid, they're definitely psychopaths. Some of my thoughts about this:

    The western globalist war mongers were hand picked by a cabal whose ultimate goal is world depopulation. It may look like they're behaving irrationally at this time, but their ultimate goal explains everything: they want most of us dead. Down to 500 millions or less on the planet. They're trying to achieve this without provoking revolutions.

    Notice that whatever they actually DO is about killing as many people as possible in the short or long run without being too obviously genocidal. It's all done by increments, on several fronts at once. So far they've engineered electoral interferences, regime changes with hired violent extremists, false flag attacks, gain-of-function-viruses, lockdowns, toxic injections, trans sex mutilation of children, climate lockdowns coming up, sabotages of the food and energy infrastructures, economic crash, etc.

    And now their most useful tool, i.e. the war against Russia that they keep trying to escalate, apparently without any logic. They'll always blame Russia for the bloodbath.

    The escalation against Russia is probably about to get nuclear, somehow. I could see that nuclear EMPs could be detonated over EU and north america in the near future, to take down electrical grids. It might even be done by the USA-NATO cabal and they'll accuse the Russians of having done it. Taking off the power grid over entire continents in winter time means mass population die off. The false flag would be to confuse the people and prevent them from turning on the elites with pitchforks, and they'll soon starve to death. They'll continue to do the same to the rest of the world. The upside of nuclear EMPs in high atmosphere is that there is little radiation fall-out.

    I'm sure the cabal has a plan B for themselves, which is to stay safe in their luxurious bunkers when things get too destroyed out there. They might keep a few slaves. Perhaps they already have an army of self-replicating robots to do the heavy work, created from the trillions of dollars that went 'missing' decades ago.

    My apologies if that sounds too dark. I hope I'm wrong. I hope that airing such 'predictions' out in the open might have a defusing effect.

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    This is a good, on topic piece, from Tucker Carlson... starting about Boris Johnson who is warmongering over in the US - Johnson was going to go on Tucker Carlson's show then pulled out then bad mouthed him...
    2:15... 'there is no popular support in this country or any other country in Europe for what Boris Johnson is now pushing..'

    Tucker goes on to put Lindsey Graham under the microscope regarding Ukraine and the way he is getting himself close to Trump while at the same time holding opposite views to Trump - I had a thought as I listened to the Lindsey Graham bit (who was one of the top politicians instrumental in the 2014 Ukraine Coup, of I remember right).......what if Graham is angling to become Trumps running mate - Trump will be allowed to win the 2024 election - then Trump will quickly be 'got rid of' .... Graham, as Vice President will automatically become President - then war with Russia will seriously escalate - ???

    If I could advise Trump I would caution him against having Graham as VP... but if he doesn't he won't be allowed to win...? knotty problem for Trump ... (pure speculation of course but it would fit with Lindsey Graham cosying up to him...)


    Tucker: There is nothing more sinister than this(12:23)


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    Quote Posted by Rizotto (here)
    The escalation against Russia is probably about to get nuclear, somehow.
    just a short while ago (early December? I can't find my post ) I wrote that I was confident that this wouldn't escalate to any kind of nuclear level. I have to say that now I'm agreeing with you that I'm not at NEARLY so sure.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Rizotto (here)
    The escalation against Russia is probably about to get nuclear, somehow.
    just a short while ago (early December? I can't find my post ) I wrote that I was confident that this wouldn't escalate to any kind of nuclear level. I have to say that now I'm agreeing with you that I'm not at NEARLY so sure.
    An extreme event like this surely would scare most of the global population to fall right in line to the globalist agenda....the great reset would basically become a reality.
    The pandemic was a test run to see how many people on a global scale would follow extreme "instructions and rules" during a crisis, sadly many blindly fell in to the BS fear-mongering and did as they were told to do. (even when the instructions and rules mostly lacked logic, reason, and common sense).

    Over the last few years or so, every time when one would think things couldn't get any more ridiculous and stupid, they do.
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    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Rizotto (here)
    The escalation against Russia is probably about to get nuclear, somehow.
    just a short while ago (early December? I can't find my post ) I wrote that I was confident that this wouldn't escalate to any kind of nuclear level. I have to say that now I'm agreeing with you that I'm not at NEARLY so sure.
    An extreme event like this surely would scare most of the global population to fall right in line to the globalist agenda....the great reset would basically become a reality.
    The pandemic was a test run to see how many people on a global scale would follow extreme "instructions and rules" during a crisis, sadly many blindly fell in to the BS fear-mongering and did as they were told to do. (even when the instructions and rules mostly lacked logic, reason, and common sense).

    Over the last few years or so, every time when one would think things couldn't get any more ridiculous and stupid, they do.
    This might need to be a thread of its own. But Chris Martenson, who understands the nature of complex systems very well, has pointed out quite a few times now in his videos that the very essence of a complex system is such that when it breaks, it's literally impossible to predict or control how or where it breaks, and what the knock-on outcomes will be.

    So the Great Resetters in the WEF may have a few surprises coming, because when the system does break — and it will — not even the diehard oligarch globalists with all their illusions of grandeur (and illusions of power) will be able to hang on to the tail of that escaping tiger.

    The only thing to be certain of is that when a complex system breaks, it sheds system components, striving to become simpler. But what exactly is 'shed' (or, in system terms 'dies' or stops functioning) can't actually be predicted.

    A nuclear war, even if it's 'limited' — if such a thing is possible! — would break so much of the global system that it'd be impossible to control or predict what would remain functioning, and what the long-term effects would be.

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    The escalation against Russia is probably about to get nuclear, somehow.
    just a short while ago (early December? I can't find my post ) I wrote that I was confident that this wouldn't escalate to any kind of nuclear level. I have to say that now I'm agreeing with you that I'm not at NEARLY so sure.
    An extreme event like this surely would scare most of the global population to fall right in line to the globalist agenda....the great reset would basically become a reality.
    The pandemic was a test run to see how many people on a global scale would follow extreme "instructions and rules" during a crisis, sadly many blindly fell in to the BS fear-mongering and did as they were told to do. (even when the instructions and rules mostly lacked logic, reason, and common sense).

    Over the last few years or so, every time when one would think things couldn't get any more ridiculous and stupid, they do.
    This might need to be a thread of its own. But Chris Martenson, who understands the nature of complex systems very well, has pointed out quite a few times now in his videos that the very essence of a complex system is such that when it breaks, it's literally impossible to predict or control how or where it breaks, and what the knock-on outcomes will be.

    So the Great Resetters in the WEF may have a few surprises coming, because when the system does break — and it will — not even the diehard oligarch globalists with all their illusions of grandeur (and illusions of power) will be able to hang on to the tail of that escaping tiger.

    The only thing to be certain of is that when a complex system breaks, it sheds system components, striving to become simpler. But what exactly is 'shed' (or, in system terms 'dies' or stops functioning) can't actually be predicted.

    A nuclear war, even if it's 'limited' — if such a thing is possible! — would break so much of the global system that it'd be impossible to control or predict what would remain functioning, and what the long-term effects would be.
    I mostly agree with this view. I do think those at the top though think they could control a limited nuclear event and cement the great reset in to place. Back door deals would have to be made though with huge players on the world stage, such as China IMO. A double-cross would easily make things drastically spiral into the abyss, especially with China.

    I don't think it's an accident that the Ukraine sits directly between the East and West and is the becoming the obvious "jump" spot for such an event.

    There's never been a time such as this, the possibilities even make WW2 look small. When this system breaks it'll be beyond belief regardless who comes out on top.
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    A panicked Empire tries to make Russia an ‘offer it can’t refuse’

    Realizing NATO’s war with Russia will likely end unfavorably, the US is test-driving an exit offer. But why should Moscow take indirect proposals seriously, especially on the eve of its new military advance and while it is in the winning seat?


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    Those behind the Throne are never more dangerous than when they have their backs against the wall.

    Their power is slipping away, fast: Militarily, via NATO’s progressive humiliation in Ukraine; Financially, sooner rather than later, most of the Global South will want nothing to do with the currency of a bankrupt rogue giant; Politically, the global majority is taking decisive steps to stop obeying a rapacious, discredited, de facto minority.

    So now those behind the Throne are plotting to at least try to stall the incoming disaster on the military front.

    As confirmed by a high-level US establishment source, a new directive on NATO vs. Russia in Ukraine was relayed to US Secretary of State Antony Blinken. Blinken, in terms of actual power, is nothing but a messenger boy for the Straussian neocons and neoliberals who actually run US foreign policy.

    The secretary of state was instructed to relay the new directive – a sort of message to the Kremlin – via mainstream print media, which was promptly published by the Washington Post.

    In the elite US mainstream media division of labor, the New York Times is very close to the State Department. and the Washington Post to the CIA. In this case though the directive was too important, and needed to be relayed by the paper of record in the imperial capital. It was published as an Op-Ed (behind paywall).

    The novelty here is that for the first time since the start of Russia’s February 2022 Special Military Operation (SMO) in Ukraine, the Americans are actually proposing a variation of the “offer you can’t refuse” classic, including some concessions which may satisfy Russia’s security imperatives.

    Crucially, the US offer totally bypasses Kiev, once again certifying that this is a war against Russia conducted by Empire and its NATO minions – with the Ukrainians as mere expandable proxies.

    ‘Please don’t go on the offensive’

    The Washington Post’s old school Moscow-based correspondent John Helmer has provided an important service, offering the full text of Blinken’s offer, of course extensively edited to include fantasist notions such as “US weapons help pulverize Putin’s invasion force” and a cringe-worthy explanation: “In other words, Russia should not be ready to rest, regroup and attack.”

    The message from Washington may, at first glance, give the impression that the US would admit Russian control over Crimea, Donbass, Zaporozhye, and Kherson – “the land bridge that connects Crimea and Russia” – as a fait accompli.

    Ukraine would have a demilitarized status, and the deployment of HIMARS missiles and Leopard and Abrams tanks would be confined to western Ukraine, kept as a “deterrent against further Russian attacks.”

    What may have been offered, in quite hazy terms, is in fact a partition of Ukraine, demilitarized zone included, in exchange for the Russian General Staff cancelling its yet-unknown 2023 offensive, which may be as devastating as cutting off Kiev’s access to the Black Sea and/or cutting off the supply of NATO weapons across the Polish border.

    The US offer defines itself as the path towards a “just and durable peace that upholds Ukraine’s territorial integrity.” Well, not really. It just won’t be a rump Ukraine, and Kiev might even retain those western lands that Poland is dying to gobble up.

    The possibility of a direct Washington-Moscow deal on “an eventual postwar military balance” is also evoked, including no Ukraine membership of NATO. As for Ukraine itself, the Americans seem to believe it will be a “strong, non-corrupt economy with membership in the European Union.”

    Whatever remains of value in Ukraine has already been swallowed not only by its monumentally corrupt oligarchy, but most of all, investors and speculators of the BlackRock variety. Assorted corporate vultures simply cannot afford to lose Ukraine’s grain export ports, as well as the trade deal terms agreed with the EU before the war. And they’re terrified that the Russian offensive may capture Odessa, the major seaport and transportation hub on the Black Sea – which would leave Ukraine landlocked.

    There’s no evidence whatsoever that Russian President Vladimir Putin, and the entire Russian Security Council – including its Secretary Nikolai Patrushev and Deputy Chairman Dmitry Medvedev – have reason to believe anything coming from the US establishment, especially via mere minions such as Blinken and the Washington Post. After all the stavka – a moniker for the high command of the Russian armed forces – regard the Americans as “non-agreement capable,” even when an offer is in writing.

    This walks and talks like a desperate US gambit to stall and present some carrots to Moscow in the hope of delaying or even cancelling the planned offensive of the next few months.

    Even old school, dissident Washington operatives – not beholden to the Straussian neocon galaxy – bet that the gambit will be a nothing burger: in classic “strategic ambiguity” mode, the Russians will continue on their stated drive of demilitarization, denazification and de-electrification, and will “stop” anytime and anywhere they see fit east of the Dnieper. Or beyond.

    What the Deep State really wants

    Washington’s ambitions in this essentially NATO vs. Russia war go well beyond Ukraine. And we’re not even talking about preventing a Russia-China-Germany Eurasian union or a peer competitor nightmare; let’s stick with prosaic issues on the Ukrainian battleground.

    The key “recommendations” – military, economic, political, diplomatic – were detailed in an Atlantic Council strategy paper late last year.

    And in another one, under “War scenario 1: The war continues in its current tempo,” we find the Straussian neocon policy fully spelled out.

    It’s all here: from “marshaling support and military-assistance transfers to Kyiv sufficient to enable it to win” to “increase the lethality of military assistance transferred to include fighter aircraft that would enable Ukraine to control its airspace and attack Russian forces therein; and missile technology with range sufficient to reach into Russian territory.”

    From training the Ukrainian military “to use Western weapons, electronic warfare, and offensive and defensive cyber capabilities, and to seamlessly integrate new recruits in the service” to buttressing “defenses on the front lines, near the Donbass region,” including “combat training focusing on irregular warfare.”

    Added to “imposing secondary sanctions on all entities doing business with the Kremlin,” we reach of course the Mother of All Plunders: “Confiscate the $300 billion that the Russian state holds in overseas accounts in the United States and EU and use seized monies to fund reconstruction.”

    The reorganization of the SMO, with Putin, Chief of the General Staff Valery Gerasimov, and General Armageddon in their new, enhanced roles is derailing all these elaborate plans.

    The Straussians are now in deep panic. Even Blinken’s number two, Russophobic warmonger Victoria “F**k the EU” Nuland, has admitted to the US Senate there will be no Abrams tanks on the battlefield before Spring (realistically, only in 2024). She also promised to “ease sanctions” if Moscow “returns to negotiations.” Those negotiations were scotched by the Americans themselves in Istanbul in the Spring of 2022.

    Nuland also called the Russians to “withdraw their troops.” Well, that at least offers some comic relief compared with the panic oozing from Blinken’s “offer you can’t refuse.” Stay tuned for Russia’s non-response response.
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    • Jimmy Dore Brings (Wider!) Anti-War Message To Fox News

    It’s rare to hear a genuine, full-throated anti-war message on American television, much less on Fox News, but Tucker Carlson’s audience heard that message loud and clear thanks to the latest appearance by Jimmy Dore. Jimmy called out the corruption, the warmongering, the deception and the profiteering as the U.S. military industrial complex and its lackeys in government and media push for war with China. Jimmy and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger discuss why Tucker is the only broadcaster open to sharing Jimmy’s anti-war message with his audience.
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    • Jimmy Dore Brings (Wider!) Anti-War Message To Fox News

    It’s rare to hear a genuine, full-throated anti-war message on American television, much less on Fox News, but Tucker Carlson’s audience heard that message loud and clear thanks to the latest appearance by Jimmy Dore. Jimmy called out the corruption, the warmongering, the deception and the profiteering as the U.S. military industrial complex and its lackeys in government and media push for war with China. Jimmy and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger discuss why Tucker is the only broadcaster open to sharing Jimmy’s anti-war message with his audience.
    What a crazy world when we end up relying on comedians to give us the facts, to the best of their knowledge. Jimmy Dore talks about his show as being done by a guy who smokes pot and does has his studio in his basement. I think he gets more views than CNN which isn't saying much. I very much appreciated when he came out with the truth of what happened to him after having one injection....Get more truth out of him in 10 minutes than reading a book of one of the "experts" on any given subject. I have grown quite fond of the guy.

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    All interesting analyses above, but something is missing. There's got to be an explanation for the apparently erratic behaviour from so many senior officials on the 'western' side. They're not exactly stupid, they're definitely psychopaths. Some of my thoughts about this:

    The western globalist war mongers were hand picked by a cabal whose ultimate goal is world depopulation. It may look like they're behaving irrationally at this time, but their ultimate goal explains everything: they want most of us dead. Down to 500 millions or less on the planet. They're trying to achieve this without provoking revolutions.

    Notice that whatever they actually DO is about killing as many people as possible in the short or long run without being too obviously genocidal. It's all done by increments, on several fronts at once. So far they've engineered electoral interferences, regime changes with hired violent extremists, false flag attacks, gain-of-function-viruses, lockdowns, toxic injections, trans sex mutilation of children, climate lockdowns coming up, sabotages of the food and energy infrastructures, economic crash, etc.

    And now their most useful tool, i.e. the war against Russia that they keep trying to escalate, apparently without any logic. They'll always blame Russia for the bloodbath.

    The escalation against Russia is probably about to get nuclear, somehow. I could see that nuclear EMPs could be detonated over EU and north america in the near future, to take down electrical grids. It might even be done by the USA-NATO cabal and they'll accuse the Russians of having done it. Taking off the power grid over entire continents in winter time means mass population die off. The false flag would be to confuse the people and prevent them from turning on the elites with pitchforks, and they'll soon starve to death. They'll continue to do the same to the rest of the world. The upside of nuclear EMPs in high atmosphere is that there is little radiation fall-out.

    I'm sure the cabal has a plan B for themselves, which is to stay safe in their luxurious bunkers when things get too destroyed out there. They might keep a few slaves. Perhaps they already have an army of self-replicating robots to do the heavy work, created from the trillions of dollars that went 'missing' decades ago.

    My apologies if that sounds too dark. I hope I'm wrong. I hope that airing such 'predictions' out in the open might have a defusing effect.
    I agree with your analysis Rizotto, but my understanding of its origins is even darker than this.

    I shall just give my perception 'straight', for the sake of brevity and clarity - I'm sorry if it sounds 'dogmatic'!

    I believe that those who are ascendant in the global leadership include an *increasing* influence from those whose evil is so far advanced that it is wholly negative and destructive; motivated by a primary desire Not for ideology, wealth, power or status; but instead to cause misery, suffering and death-in-despair - simply because this gratifies them and even when this brings no personal advantage. This is the agenda even when it destroys the basis of their own power and wealth - or even if it brings personal harm. In other words the totalitarian System builders who seek omni-surveillance and total-control are losing influence, and the destroyers are gaining. In Dungeons and Dragons terminology: Lawful Evil is losing out to Chaotic Evil.

    The motivation of the ascendant leadership is almost pure spitefulness; such as is possible only to supernatural evil: i.e. demons and those they control. These leaders and influencers will keep pressing for escalation into all-in, all-out, nuclear war - unless or until they are stopped.

    But how can they be stopped? I can't see cause for optimism in the socio-political realm; since there seem to be none in leadership positions who are motivated for good, the corruption is universal at the top and the masses are mostly actively complicit or hedonistically passive.

    The destroyers must be opposed in the spiritual realm by those who ally with the divine powers of love and creation and whose thought and will are directed at truth, beauty and virtue. After all, this is primarily a spiritual war; so ought to be fought explicitly in the spiritual realm. Every individual has a role to play.

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