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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    Quote Posted by kfm27917 (here)
    https://geoalliance.asu.edu/sites/de..._BeforeWW1.pdf

    no Finland, no Baltic states, no Ukraine -just Russia
    Slavic people moved to the region around 1000 years ago while Estonias have been there 10 000 years or so. The violent slavs wiped out dozens of smaller cultures and enslaved others. Something they continue to do.

    I give you another kind of map ,show me where is russia https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...Empire_125.png

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    Good point , Jaak
    Obviously the political history of the region has up and downs.

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    Russian military presence in Transnistria
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia...n_Transnistria

    Breakaway Transnistria Asks Russia For 'Protection' - Setting Stage For Military Intervention
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...y-intervention

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    • SnowStorm | The Russians Entered Krasnohorivka | Transnistrian Crisis | Orlivka Was Taken. 2024.2.28:

    THE MAP: https://dev.militarysummary.com
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    • Kremlin warns of war with NATO if European members send troops to Ukraine:
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    Quote Posted by Jaak (here)
    Estonias have been there 10 000 years or so

    I give you another kind of map ,show me where is russia https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...Empire_125.png


    More forum friendly map of the Emperor Hadrian's Roman world shared by Jaak, with no modern Russian Federation 1899 years ago

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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    Whats your point or beef ? post before showed a map of russian empire during WW1 where Finland and Baltics were part of Russian empire,implying that this is how it should be again? I just wanted to show with my map that slavic people are foreign species in the north...

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    ⚡️What is known about Moldova's self-proclaimed republic of Transnistria that asks Russia for "protection"?

    Facts and Figures

    · Transnistria, with its capital of Tiraspol, occupies a narrow strip of land lodged between the Dniester river and the Ukrainian border.

    · Overall area of #Transnistria is 4,163 sq km, with a population of around 465,000.

    · The breakaway republic has a predominantly Russian-speaking population. Other languages used in the region are Romanian and Ukrainian.

    · It has its own constitution, parliament, flag and anthem, and currency, the Transnistrian ruble (rubla).

    History

    · Predominantly Russian-speaking Transnistria, 60 percent of whose ethnic population are Russians and Ukrainians, had been seeking to secede from Moldova since the break-up of the Soviet Union.

    · A 1989 law that made Moldovan an official language added to the tension.

    · The region seceded from the Soviet Republic of Moldova in 1990.

    · The secession led to an armed conflict, with the territory's paramilitary forces taking over Moldovan public institutions in the area in 1991.

    · After Moldova failed to resolve the conflict by force, a ceasefire was signed in July 1992 and a demilitarized security zone was established.

    · The settlement was enforced by Russian troops stationed in the territory.

    · In 1992, Transnistria became a territory de facto beyond the control of the Moldovan capital Kishinev.

    · The conflict has remained unresolved. Peace in the area is maintained by a joint peacekeeping force comprising Russian, Transnistrian and Moldovan servicemen.
    https://x.com/SputnikInt/status/1762824155274133793




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    ❗️ Ukraine's western neighbour asks Russia for "protection"

    Transnistria (The Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic) turned to Russia for help in connection with Moldova's economic blockade: an official declaration was adopted by the republic's Congress of Deputies.

    Find out more about the self-proclaimed republic in our video.

    https://x.com/SputnikInt/status/1762879020318790127




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    Tiraspol asks Russia to step up its political and diplomatic settlement of the ongoing conflict, Transnistrian Foreign Minister Vitaly Ignatiev said on Wednesday.

    “We have asked to intensify political and diplomatic measures, since the Russian Federation is one of the international mediators in the international settlement process in the 5+2 format,” Ignatiev said.

    https://x.com/SputnikInt/status/1762851589671305722




    https://x.com/SputnikInt/status/1762855547567583733





    https://x.com/SputnikInt/status/1762837976688513435

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    Key statements by Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova at today's briefing:

    ▪️ The NATO military is already in Ukraine and is actively helping the Ukrainian Armed Forces, while Moscow will consider the participation of the Western soldiers in the conflict as a direct escalation.

    ▪️ Russia's steps after Sweden joins NATO will depend on Stockholm's specific actions in the alliance.

    ▪️ The Danish decision to stop the North Stream investigation confirms the West's lack of interest in identifying the clients and perpetrators of terrorist attacks.

    ▪️ Media reports about secret negotiations between Germany and India on the purchase of ammunition for the Armed Forces of Ukraine are information stuffing.

    https://x.com/SputnikInt/status/1762867443200934187

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    https://x.com/RT_com/status/1762955836727697703



    https://www.rt.com/russia/593328-tra...omic-blockade/

    NATO applicant’s breakaway region asks Moscow for help

    Transnistria, an unrecognized republic that split from Moldova in the early 1990s, asked Russia on Wednesday for help amid mounting pressure from Chisinau, which it describes as an “economic blockade.”

    The call for help was made at a congress of Transnistrian legislators at all levels, which adopted a declaration on the matter. The lawmakers asked Moscow to take “measures to protect Transnistria amid mounting pressure from Moldova,” stressing that nearly half of the 450,000 people living in the unrecognized country are Russian citizens.

    “We’ve asked to intensify political and diplomatic measures, since the Russian Federation is one of the international mediators in the settlement process,” the self-declared republic’s foreign minister, Vitaly Ignatyev, explained while speaking to the broadcaster Rossiya 24.

    The congress also raised the issue of the “economic blockade” with the UN Secretary General, OSCE, the EU parliament, and other international bodies and organizations, urging them to put pressure on Chisinau.

    Moscow promptly reacted to the call for help, promising to address it shortly. “Protecting the interests of Transnistria residents, our compatriots, is one of our priorities. All requests are always carefully considered,” Russia’s Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

    The Russian parliament will evaluate the Transnistrian plea as soon as the document actually reaches Moscow, Konstantin Zatulin, a senior lawmaker with the lower chamber, the State Duma, told RIA Novosti.

    The move has already been condemned by Moldova, with the country’s Vice PM on Reintegration, Oleg Serebyan, dismissing Tiraspol’s call as “propaganda” and denying putting the breakaway territory under an “economic blockade.”

    “The Deputy Prime Minister for Reintegration and the Bureau for Reintegration Policies of the Moldovan Government firmly dismiss propagandistic statements from Tiraspol. They emphasize that the Transnistrian region of the Republic of Moldova enjoys peace, security, and economic integration policies with the European Union,” Serebyan said in a statement.

    Transnistria, a narrow strip of land between the left bank of the Dniester rover and Ukraine, proclaimed independence from Chisinau in the early 1990s, shortly after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

    Following Chisinau’s botched attempt to reclaim the territory by force, a ceasefire was reached in 1992, with Russia maintaining a small peacekeeping force in the region. Over the years, Tiraspol has taken multiple steps to integrate with Moscow, with the republic’s population overwhelmingly backing the idea to join Russia in the mid-2000s.
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    Quote Posted by Jaak (here)
    Whats your point or beef ?
    No beef My point is, on the outskirts of the Roman Empire of your map, this is what inhabited Estonian to Russian lands pretty much looked like

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    Apart from a few angry Romans failing to subjugate them- you won't find modern Estonia, or modern Russia... or Victoria Nuland's cookie recipe of Russia

    Just tribal humans living their best Iron Age lives

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    🇺🇦⚔️🐶 🇷🇺Ralph and Dobby live in Artyomovsk. The other day they suffered from shelling by the Ukrainian Armed Forces, they couldn’t even get up. There are no veterinarians at the front but leaving little brothers to die is not a way for the Russian soldiers. Therefore, the guys took the poor dogs to the hospital and went online to watch videos from the Internet how to treat animals as they had not done it before.

    First, the diagnosis was made: a displaced bone fracture. Afterwards they bandaged them and put on a plaster cast. Successfully.

    The soldiers say that medical equipment from the Popular Front, including X-ray machines, helped. With them, they can save a wounded soldier and a furry friend.

    https://x.com/dana916/status/1762938477581148401

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    Extraordinary!

    Israel’s ambassador to the UN, Gilad Erdan, delivered a speech in which he totally torched Russia. He not only announced that Israel is going to provide an early warning systems against missiles for Ukraine but also called Ukraine an “ally”. He also equates Russia with Hamas and attacks Russia for hosting another visit of Hamas in Moscow.

    You can be sure that this speech comes in coordination with the Israeli Prime Minister. It clearly marks the end of the relationship between Putin and Netanyahu. This whole instance reminds when Amir Weitmann delivered his viral statement in RussiaToday where he announced that “Russia is going to pay the price” (check out the repost). I think we are witnessing what this means.

    Israel’s pro-Ukraine position will also have ramifications in the US and the ongoing discussion for military aid.

    Source of video: https://youtube.com/watch?v=F5oIatX-3QI

    https://x.com/Tendar/status/1762580747171348549

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    Extraordinary!

    Israel’s ambassador to the UN, Gilad Erdan, delivered a speech...

    You can be sure that this speech comes in coordination with the Israeli Prime Minister. It clearly marks the end of the relationship between Putin and Netanyahu. This whole instance reminds when Amir Weitmann delivered his viral statement in RussiaToday where he announced that “Russia is going to pay the price” (check out the repost). I think we are witnessing what this means.
    Um, quite the character, isn't he

    It may be worth a reminder of why there is such attention paid to this area (to include Crimea) and its casus belli against Russia.

    Screenshot from a segment of Igor Berkut's 2017 interview where he discusses the (many decades old) proposal for a zionist enclave - a 'Heavenly New Jerusalem' - in the following regions:



    The video segment can be viewed here

    Rest assured that Russia will secure these areas, that remain to be seized, thereby scuppering the zionists goals.
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    An immensely powerful tweet by David Sacks. It's had 2.4 million views.

    https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/statu...76951744897179

    The text:
    A WAR OF LIES

    The war in Ukraine is based on lies — lies about how it started, how it’s going, and how it will end.

    We are told that Ukraine is winning when in fact it is losing. We are told that the war makes NATO stronger when in fact it is depleting it. We are told that Ukraine’s biggest problem is a lack of funds from the U.S. Congress when in fact the West can’t produce enough ammunition — a problem that will take years to fix. We are told that Russia is suffering greater casualties when in fact Ukraine is running out of soldiers — another problem money can’t fix.

    We are told that the world is with us when in fact the Global Majority believes U.S. policy is the height of folly. We are told that there is no opportunity to make peace when in fact we have rejected multiple opportunities for a negotiated settlement. We are told that if Ukraine keeps fighting, it will improve its negotiating position when in fact the terms will only get much worse than what was already available and rejected.

    Nevertheless the lies will succeed in dragging out the war. Congress will appropriate more funds. Russia will take more territory. Ukraine will mobilize more young men and women to feed into the meat grinder. Discontent will mount. Eventually there will be a crisis in Kiev and the Zelensky government will be toppled.

    And then, when the war is finally lost, when the whole country lays in smoldering ruins on a funeral pyre of their own making, the liars will say “well we tried.” Having prevented any alternative, having smeared anyone who told the truth as puppets for the enemy, the liars will say “We did our best. We stood up to Putin.”

    In fact, they will claim, we would have succeeded but for the fifth column of Putin apologists who stabbed the Ukrainians in the back. Then, having shifted blame and patted themselves on the back, they will blithely move on to the next war, as they moved onto Ukraine after their disasters in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    The lies are comprehensive — but they will work.

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    Quote Posted by Jaak (here)
    Quote Posted by kfm27917 (here)
    https://geoalliance.asu.edu/sites/de..._BeforeWW1.pdf

    no Finland, no Baltic states, no Ukraine -just Russia
    Slavic people moved to the region around 1000 years ago while Estonias have been there 10 000 years or so. The violent slavs wiped out dozens of smaller cultures and enslaved others. Something they continue to do.

    I give you another kind of map ,show me where is russia https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...Empire_125.png
    good point.
    do you have a map where the USA is at that point in time ?
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    ...

    ... in case one is ready for an earful about mercenaries, NATO, Tucker, Ukraine, BRICS etc... Last 1/4 about Netanyahu:

    NATO is Done - Ukraine Defeated - Netanyahu's Destructive Attitude | Scott Ritter 1:09:47

    Feb 29, 2024 Interviews

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    Quote Posted by kfm27917 (here)
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    Quote Posted by kfm27917 (here)
    https://geoalliance.asu.edu/sites/de..._BeforeWW1.pdf

    no Finland, no Baltic states, no Ukraine -just Russia
    Slavic people moved to the region around 1000 years ago while Estonias have been there 10 000 years or so. The violent slavs wiped out dozens of smaller cultures and enslaved others. Something they continue to do.

    I give you another kind of map ,show me where is russia https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...Empire_125.png
    good point.
    do you have a map where the USA is at that point in time ?
    Nothing that goes back that far but this purports to be a reflection of the demography from the late 15th century:

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    This is very very interesting — all about a new report in the Financial Times, analyzed as best he could by Chris Martenson. If this is all for real, we might expect to be hearing quite a lot more about it in the next few days.

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    Zelensky's army. In Ukraine, recruitment to the "Snow White"
    battalion was announced.

    119 A separate brigade of the territorial defense of Ukraine announced the recruitment of a women's battalion in the Chernihiv region. It is expected that it will consist of girls from 16 to 30 years old who will go to the front voluntarily.

    The first volunteer ladies are already being trained.

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    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...are-being-lied

    "Americans Are Being Lied To About Ukraine" - Tucker Carlson Reflects On Putin, Zelensky, Navalny & Nuclear War

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