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    "How Europe sees the Ukraine War Now - Alastair Crooke fmr Brit Ambassador"

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    US operation to control Ukraine

    US intelligence agencies built ties with former Hitler collaborators to work together against the Soviet Union and then Russia. The operation to form an armed underground movement in Western Ukraine was dubbed 'Aerodynamic'. The CIA assembled war criminals and Bandera movement activists from filtration camps, and created an agent network. Their task was to sabotage nuclear plants and dams on Ukrainian territory in an effort to separate it from the Soviet Union. They terrorized civilians and were responsible for at least 35,000 casualties, according to CIA co-founder Frank Wisner. Watch the video.

    Additional information on project 'Aerodynamic'

    Links to CIA declassified Aerodynamic documents at the CIA reading room.

    Volume 1
    https://cia.gov/readingroom/document...3294098d50f7fc
    Volume 2
    https://cia.gov/readingroom/document...3294098d50f82b

    Volume 3
    https://cia.gov/readingroom/document...3294098d50f8a8

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    Isn't that a red line? Does Russia still have a state border?

    Polish mercenaries from the so-called. "Polish Volunteer Corps" also took part in the attack on the Belgorod region on May 22.
    This follows from the videos published on the channel of this formation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, where Polish speech is heard.
    Also earlier, the wife of the commander of the local self-defense, Yuri Gaevoy, who was shot during the raid, stated that she was being held hostage by the Poles and the Americans.

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    The Ukrainian Military Is In Bad Shape
    June 03, 2023

    Erik Kramer and Paul Schneider are two former U.S. special operations soldiers who have been in Ukraine since 2022 to train Ukrainian troops.

    At War on the Rocks they paint a dark picture of the state of the Ukrainian military. Their intent is to get money for more training, thus the real picture may be less dark than they describe. But even if one takes that into account it is still a sad state for an army that has been at war for more than a year. Some excerpts:
    Based on our nine months of training with all services of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, to include the Ground Forces (Army), Border Guard Service, National Guard, Naval Infantry (Marines), Special Operations Forces, and Territorial Defense Forces, we have observed a series of common trends: lack of mission command, effective training, and combined arms operations; ad hoc logistics and maintenance; and improper use of special operations forces. These trends have undermined Ukraine’s resistance and could hinder the success of the ongoing offensive.
    What ongoing offensive?

    Under mission command, the German Auftragstaktik, the leader disseminates his intent ("to attack through the northern woods to take town x") and authority to subunits that is passed down with the mission to empower subordinates at all levels. Each subunits can make its plans to coordinate and execute the mission as best as possible. The contrast is an order command where every detail of execution is ordered from the top down. Both have advantages but to have a mixed system, as Ukraine currently has, is the worst of all places.
    In our experience, across many units and staffs, the Ukrainian Armed Forces do not promote personal initiative and foster mutual trust or mission command. As Michael Kofman and Rob Lee recently discussed on the Russia Contingency podcast, elements of the Ukrainian Armed Forces have an old Soviet mentality that holds most decision-making at more senior levels. Amongst military leaders at the brigade level and below, our impression is that junior officers fear making mistakes.
    But to use mission command down to the lower levels of a Platoon one needs noncommissioned officers (sergeants) to run the show. Those the Ukrainian military had are by now probably dead:
    Having trained every component of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, we have continually seen a lack of an experienced noncommissioned officer corps. It is common to see field grade officers running around during training counting personnel and coordinating for meals. In the United States, it takes years to develop just a junior noncommissioned officer.
    The next big lack is combined arms training and use. Tanks protect the infantry, the infantry protects the tanks, the artillery covers the battlefield to allow tanks and infantry to maneuver, command takes care that all three coordinate their actions.
    The armor/infantry relationship is supposed to be symbiotic, but it is not. The result is that infantry will conduct frontal assaults or operate in urban areas without the protection and firepower of tanks. Also, artillery fires are not synchronized with maneuver. Most units do not talk directly to supporting artillery, so there is a delay in call for fire missions. We have been told that units will use runners to send fire missions to artillery batteries because of issues with communications.

    Most of the military’s operations are not phased and are sequential. Fires and maneuver, for example, are planned separately from infantry units — and infantry units plan separately from supporting artillery. This mentality also carries over to adjacent unit coordination, which is either nonexistent or rare and causes high rates of fratricide. Unit commanders have concerns about collaborators and thus are hesitant to pass on critical information that can be used against them to sister units.

    These issues are compounded by unreliable communications between units and with senior leadership. The Ukrainian Armed Forces have a hodgepodge of radios that are vulnerable to jamming. Further, battalion missions are mainly independent company operations that do not focus on a main effort coupled with supporting efforts. The armed forces do not combine effects, so operations are piecemeal and disjointed. The separate missions are not supporting each other, nor are the missions of lower level units “nested” under a higher level mission. Sustainment is not synchronized with operations, either.
    Due to the wild mix of weapons and for lack of trained mechanics logistics and the maintenance of equipment are a mess.
    This lack of coordinated maintenance and logistics also translates into medical care. Medical evacuation and care are haphazard. Experienced Ukrainian combat medics have repeatedly stated that many of the evacuees would have survived it they had reached definitive care in a timely manner. The Ukrainian Armed Forces can solve this issue with a systematic logistics process.
    Ukrainian special forces are mostly used as infantry even as they should be used for more demanding missions. There also are gimmick missions:
    Ukraine special forces units comprised of international volunteers shop around their services to conventional unit commanders without a mission being tied to a strategic or operational goal. One example of a mission was a conventional brigade commander who had reported to his command that he had occupied a village taken from the Russians. When he realized that the information he had was mistaken and they had stopped short, he asked the international special operations forces unit to go into the occupied village and take a picture of a Ukrainian flag placed on top of a building in the center of the village.
    A suicide mission to hide the commanders false reporting ...

    The authors claim that most of the above problems could be fixed by more 'western' training which they are more than willing to sell. However, what has become of the last armies 'western' forces have trained in Iraq and Afghanistan? Both fell apart. An army must reflect the local society and culture. It can not be formed top down by outside forces.

    Since 2015 the Ukrainian army has been build up and trained by U.S. and British forces. What the WotR authors describe is the result of that.
    Bumping this.

    I added some formatting to make te article easier to read. The sobering, tell-it-as-it-is indictment of the sorry state of the Ukraine military is copied in the indented paragraphs above. The whole article is here — written by two American pro-Ukrainian military trainers based in Kiev.
    I'll not copy the whole article here, but the section headings give a clue to its content:
    1. Lack of Mission Command
    2. Lack of Effective Training
    3. Lack of Combined Arms Operations
    4. Ad Hoc Logistics and Maintenance
    5. Improperly Used Special Operations Forces.
    They don't even mention further factors such as
    • Huge losses of soldiers, now well over 150,000 and maybe as much as 300,000
    • Politics and PR overriding rational military strategy
    • Lack of ammunition and combat vehicles
    • Failed air defense
    • Use of forced conscripts with zero motivation or experience
    • Corruption in the transfer of equipment
    • Poor morale sometimes leading to mutiny.
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    On 4 June this year, units of the Western Military District and the Border Guard Service of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation detected an attempt by a sabotage and reconnaissance group of Ukrainian terrorists to cross a river near Novaya Tavolzhanka, Belgorod Region.

    An artillery strike was launched against the enemy. The enemy was dispersed and withdrew, the Russian Defence Ministry has stated.

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    According to MASH, there is currently a battle taking place in Novaya Tavolzhanka with terrorists from the RDK (Russo-Ukrainian Volunteer Corps) in the area near Sadovaya Street.

    The location includes a stadium, hospital, and church.

    Civilians have been evacuated from there for their safety.

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    Armed Forces of Ukraine on the "Southern Front" conducts reconnaissance in force

    Today, there were three concentrated attacks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on a wide front from Velyka Novoselka to Avdiivka.

    First attack southwest of Velikaya Novoselka . The enemy, with a force of up to two companies, tried to break through our forward positions. Suffered significant losses, but took one position.

    Ugledar - without results (by force up to a company)

    South of Avdiivka - without results (up to three companies).

    In general, the enemy proceeded to the next stage of preparing the counteroffensive - the search for weak points in our defense. Plus, an attempt to level our previous successes (this is near Avdiivka).

    Analyst Yury Podolyaki

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    The members of the self-proclaimed "Russian Volunteer Corps" are proposing a deal to Governor Gladkov of the Belgorod region:

    - The "RVC" fighters request a few minutes of unarmed communication with the governor inside a church.
    - In exchange, Governor Gladkov is expected to accept custody of two captured Russian Armed Forces soldiers.

    This agreement remains in effect until 5:00 PM today

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    NATO’s big gamble in Ukraine has failed

    Nothing has gone right for the US and NATO since the initial phase of the war. Attempts to isolate Russia have failed. European economies have been stung badly by the war while others saved themselves and Russia by purchasing discounted Russian crude. Even the war theatre in Ukraine isn’t looking the way NATO envisioned it

    The Russian military seems to be ahead of NATO on at least the following capabilities – air defence, electronic warfare, artillery/counter artillery, and hypersonic missiles.

    Fifteen months into the biggest land war in Eurasia since the Second World War, the tables have turned. US and NATO began with a confidence that a proxy war was the only way to roll back Russian influence in Europe. It was aimed to cut Russia down to size and snuff out the incipient multipolar order.

    On paper it was an ingenious, if diabolical, strategy. Ukrainian blood and NATO weapons would be more than a match for Russia. At the very least, western policymakers surmised, Russia would be bogged down in another protracted ‘Afghanistan’ or ‘Vietnam’ for years, while America would swoop across the world as a rejuvenated superpower.

    The opposite has occurred. On every front in this proxy war – it is more apt to classify the conflict as a limited great power war – US goals have fallen short.

    The US’s Weak Hand

    The international community has stayed scrupulously away from lining up behind the West. Other than its loyal G-6 states in tow, Washington has witnessed a resounding rejection of NATO’s plan to demonise and contain Russia.

    The Global South has instead discovered an opportunity to advance their own interests and embrace a multipolar world order where weaker states can henceforth bargain for better deals with the major players. India’s foreign policy exemplifies this trend that can today be seen in South America, Africa, Middle East and even in parts of East Asia.

    Great power geopolitical alignments have also shifted adversely. China – the swing power for the West – has barely budged its position. Since the outbreak of the Ukraine war, Washington has attempted to imagine cleavages between Moscow and Beijing that it could exploit for a new western rapprochement with China.

    Senior US policymakers, including the President, along with a flurry of European leaders have attempted to court the Xi Jinping regime in an attempt to nudge China away from Russia. But to little avail. The Chinese seem unwilling to jeopardise their partnership with Russia. With their own potential flashpoint right under their nose in Taiwan, Beijing fears a similar fate for itself in the future.

    Unanticipated Economic Blowback

    The real trump card in Western hands has always been the economy: the legacy dominance of the US dollar, control over international supply chains, and the ability to arbitrarily impose collective sanctions and isolate a country. These are unique leverages that no other great power can claim to possess as of today. This is where the US truly felt it had the upper hand. It could not only destabilise Russia, perhaps even fatally, but also rewrite a new chapter on globalisation.

    Yet shockingly again, and despite dramatically severing European energy and industrial linkages with Russia, the blowback to the West has been more severe than the intended impact on the Russian economy. European economies are reeling from inflation and the spectre of de-industrialisation, fueled by a supply side energy and commodity crisis caused by western sanctions.

    Industrial giants like Germany have slumped into a recession. Economists can no longer deny just how critical the Russian commodity and energy link as well as market access was for European prosperity and industrial vitality.

    How Russia Escaped, India Too

    But how did Russia escape its own economic strangulation? Very simply, the non-western world did not commit hara-kiri. China and India along with several other developing economies quickly replaced western markets, providing not only a lifeline to Russian exports but also drew unusual growth benefits of their own from discounted crude oil.

    Flushed with revenues, Moscow has been able to procure industrial components, machinery and consumer goods necessary for its basic economic stability. Trade with China is estimated to touch $200 billion in 2023, emulating a role played by Germany in the past.

    As a consequence, Russia defied the double-digit recession forecast for it in 2022 by only contracting by 2.1 percent. Even the IMF projects positive GDP growth for the Russian economy in 2023 and 2024.

    The War Theatre: Advantage Russia

    Finally, it is in the war theatre itself where events have unfolded calling into question the entire geopolitical gamble of the West. After the initial phase when Russia received a rude shock about the full extent of NATO’s penetration and the systematic buildup of the Ukrainian armed forces since 2014, Moscow shifted to a strategy of attrition.

    This meant occupying territory – usually the primary objective of a war – became less important (other than of course the ethnic-Russian dominated Donbass and Crimea) than degrading and destroying the NATO-built force inside Ukraine.

    Classical war of manoeuvre with large tanks battles in vast open fields or direct assaults on entrenched Ukrainian positions – scenarios that NATO expected and trained the Ukrainian military for and for which it invested in major defence lines around the Donbass – were replaced by gruelling and bloody struggles for strategic cities and gateway towns.

    Russia has prevailed in all these major urban battles that will help it secure eastern Ukraine. At the same time, Russia has used its offensive firepower to freely strike at military, logistic, high value infrastructure, and command and control targets across Ukraine including in Kyiv. Russia adapted to fight an intelligent and relatively low casualty war of its choosing and not the one NATO had planned to bog it down in.

    Ukraine-NATO: Outmanned, Underprepared

    A few themes are now increasingly clear. The bulk of the Ukrainian military force has been largely destroyed in the past 12 months of the war. The replacement units being inducted after the most recent round of NATO training in the UK and elsewhere cannot restore those massive losses.

    The industrial capacity to wage a big and long war has been severely impaired, not just in Ukraine but in NATO. NATO countries have already sent over $70-80 billion worth of military equipment, with the lion’s share coming from the US. The real constraint now is western production capacity because NATO planners never anticipated a war with a peer competitor that might exceed a few weeks of intense combat.

    To get a sense of the gap – Russia fires artillery rounds in an afternoon in Ukraine equivalent to at least two months of US production. NATO weapons systems that were fielded to alter the course of the war have come up short. The Russian military seems to be ahead of NATO on at least the following capabilities – air defence, electronic warfare, artillery/counter artillery, and hypersonic missiles.

    The much-touted Ukrainian counter-offensive is likely to run into the famous monsoon season before it clashes with any Russian formations. What might follow after that is another gasp of NATO-fueled fighting before Russia inflicts its own counter-offensive.

    The blowback in Ukraine is real and the most significant geopolitical trend of the past year.

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    "However, as I said before, these are all exactly the AFU’s aims in these operations. We’ve said all along, even months ago, that prior to the offensive, such psychological and asymmetrical warfare would massively increase. And now it has. The AFU has nothing left and they are acting as nothing more than a terror guerilla force now. They are resorting to nothing other than civilian strikes and provocateur actions."
    - Simplicius The Thinker, June 5th 2023

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    Another thoughtful piece from StT here following the events of yesterday (June 4th) with an interesting observation: some of the claimed incursion footage seems to have been debunked.

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    Wild Day in the Wildlands of Ukraine

    This is a ‘brief’ update report that I just had to do after what was one of the wildest days of the war thus far, in terms of the sheer absurdity of events.

    First, we had the next Ukrainian incursion attempt into Belgorod region which was an absolute cluster of an event as it was filled with a sheer soundwall of propaganda and zany circumstances.

    First, the Ukrainian units posing as the ‘RDK’ posted footage of themselves supposedly inside the small border village of Novaya Tavolzhanka in the Belgorod region. But the footage was then debunked by the Russian side as being faked, because Russian correspondents and journalists quickly noticed that the houses the Ukrainian troops were pretending to skulk around in did not actually exist in that village. Most notably, there was a house with a certain street number 23 which reportedly does not exist in that town, nor do the taller looking buildings seen in the background. It was decided this was a psyop filmed elsewhere.



    It’s not clear from the blurry screenshot but the above house number was debunked as fake by Russian reporters.

    However, not long after, the assailants posted footage of what they claimed to be captured Russian border troops, which they were treating as hostages in an attempt to blackmail the Belgorod region governor, Gladkov, into “meeting them” at a certain time and place. Initially it was stated that Russian forces captured some of the Ukrainians as well, and the UA troops were trying to setup an exchange, but I’m not sure if there was any truth to that because the next video the Ukrainians released, showing upwards of 10+ claimed captives did not appear to indicate any such exchange but rather the desire to meet the governor for a ‘small talk’. They did mention an exchange, but only in the context of using these new Russian captives for the future exchange fund, at least as I understand it.

    Here’s the subtitled video of the terrorists’ first message followed by the Belgorod governor’s response: (Ed: video embedded in article)

    The third longer video which they released later, and which appears to show more Russian captures was not subtitled but here is a rough translation: (Ed: video embedded in article)
    «Well, friends, I just returned from a new one, as we expected, Mr. Gladkov did not consider it necessary, did not find the courage to exchange his precious time for life and freedom, as he managed to put it, our boys. Here are those very boys of yours that the master killed with our hands in his video. As you have noticed, during my absence, your boys in our captivity have become much more. These Russian men, not for their free purpose, can. Soon the whole region and injustice will come to them, debauchery, then perhaps in the near future they will become our ranks, the ranks of those who will liberate Russia, unlike Mr. Evgeny Viktorovich Prigogine, just by no means found the courage for himself and was ready to agree to our conditions, you are the lord of the conditions, we will no longer dictate also I want to note that our governor does not control the situation in the region, he does not know how many of your captive boys are in our captivity, we will communicate with those who make decisions in Moscow. We have already decided the fate of these guys. They will be transferred to the Ukrainian side for the exchange procedure.»
    Some have speculated, at first at least, that the video and captures could be fake. However, governor Gladkov’s response clearly appears to validate the fact that POWs were taken.

    But the AFU units were said to suffer many casualties as well so it’s difficult to know who truly got the better of the exchange. Videos appeared showing their transports being hit by strikes and unverified reports indicate at least some moderate level of vehicle losses and casualties as they slunk back to their stronghold in the town of Volchansk on the other side of the border.

    As for people I’ve seen on social media wondering how is it that Ukraine is able to take Russian POWs in such ‘raids’ across the border. It’s difficult to know for certain how they did it in this circumstance, but the general idea is that the infiltrator has the element of surprise and the area is covered with forests. So that means typically they can go through the forests and get “behind” a certain lightly-manned checkpoint, for instance, and then surround it, giving the Russian troops there no pathway to retreat.

    This is the main problem with this particular border area. It’s that in this current spring/summer weather, the trees are in full bloom and it’s heavily forested here, unlike the huge empty fields of lower Ukraine. So this gives the UA infiltrators the ability to gain a lot of initiative and the element of surprise while hiding from surveillance drones in the tree cover.

    Secondly, there’s a huge disparity in troop skill levels as the Russian border guards may be some middling local militia types whereas the infiltration teams Ukraine sends are the most elite special forces, typically made up of the hungriest and most driven mercenaries.

    This fact was also revealed today with a new report that showed a Polish mercenary group admitting to being part of the vanguard of the earlier attacks on Grayvoron, Belgorod region last week. The Polish group even posted videos of themselves during the attack and an online message stating that it was an honor to do so, though they later deleted the statement.



    Furthermore, Russian units in the area have reported that the intercepted communications feature a lot of English language being spoken as well as other foreign languages, which means that elite mercenaries are heavily involved. If you look at the video above of the captured Russian troops, they look like a ragtag force of mostly older men.

    So the big question is, why is the border so poorly manned? If Russia knows that highly elite mercenary special forces are aiming to attack them, why aren’t they beefing up the border security?

    Well, firstly, the whole point of these raids is for Russia to divest other regions of needed troops and bring them here so that Ukraine can try to launch their counter-offensive against weakened lines. Russia is trying to handle the border problem with as few troops as needed without falling exactly into UA’s trap.

    However, even with that said, there are some mysteries that remain, that even I can’t figure out. For instance, here’s a sensible complaint from one Russian analyst:
    New columns of the Armed Forces of Ukraine go to the border with the Belgorod region

    According to sources from Ordinary Tsarism, small columns of the Armed Forces of Ukraine passed through Stary Saltov in the Kharkiv region all night. The columns were heavy equipment and artillery. Locals say they haven't seen anything like it in over six months.

    All these columns go to Volchansk, from where they attack the Russian border area, including the long-suffering Shebekino.

    Sensitive strikes are indeed delivered by Russian aviation, but extremely few for this direction.

    The Armed Forces of Ukraine move freely almost to the very border, where artillery is already beginning to seriously work on them. Also, aircraft of the Armed Forces of Ukraine regularly fly over the Kharkiv region. Over the past 24 hours, up to five sorties have been observed in various parts of the region.

    All this testifies to increased pressure on the Belgorod direction. New attempts to break into Russian territory can be expected in the near future.

    We remind you that the main routes of movement of Ukrainian troops are well known, as well as bridges and other communications, through which the Russian Aerospace Forces for some reason refuse to work.

    The enemy can and should be destroyed on the distant approaches, otherwise we will once again get an unpleasant surprise.
    He describes the following route of AFU convoys heading from Kharkov up to Vovchansk and into Shebekino. There are bridges there over the Donets river that Russia could theoretically hit but is not doing so:



    I could argue that Russia is not hitting those bridges because it intends to use them itself in the not too distant future for crossing back over into Kharkov once it starts its own offensives. However, it’s possible during such time the AFU would in turn blow the bridges themselves as they retreat, so there may be no way to save them anyway.

    Also, a separate report has now shown that Belgorod region has overtaken Donetsk in the amount of shelling it now receives daily:
    ❗️🇷🇺🇺🇦 Belgorod region overtook the Donetsk agglomeration by 20% in terms of shelling intensity

    Data for today is not yet available, but so far the sad statistics for the week looks like this: 2,383 shells on the Donetsk agglomeration against 3,035 shells on the Belgorod region.

    The pressure on the Russian border area will only intensify: we have repeatedly written that this is a sore point, which the enemy is putting pressure on.
    But the report correctly points out what I said before:
    The Russian Ministry of Defense and other power structures are forcing to shift the focus of attention to the border with the Kharkiv region, stretching out forces and means, and forcing them to waste resources. Panic is being sown among the population - in general, they are implementing the plan of the already ongoing counteroffensive.

    Ex-Russians from the Russian Volunteer Corps, the Legion of Freedom of Russia, hired cannon fodder from the Polish Volunteer Corps and the International Legion are used as a media cover to promote ideas about the liberation struggle for the Russian borderlands.

    ❗️ There is no “liberation struggle” on the part of the ex-Russians and there cannot be. The operation to put pressure on the Russian frontier in this area is being carried out by British specialists and tech experts - and all this rubbish promoted in the media space is just a crappy hammer with a cracked handle.
    So, yes, Belgorod, or rather Shebekino, is being hammered right now in every way. From nonstop shelling which has now killed multiple civilians over the past few days, to these daily incursions which are aggravating and trying to provoke disproportionate responses. And many quick-tempered people on the Russian side are indignant with the Russian MOD for not responding with more authority.

    However, as I said before, these are all exactly the AFU’s aims in these operations. We’ve said all along, even months ago, that prior to the offensive, such psychological and asymmetrical warfare would massively increase. And now it has. The AFU has few options left and they are acting as nothing more than a terror guerilla force now, resorting to civilian strikes and provocateur actions more than ever before to make up for their failings on the field.

    But as usual, today’s incursion appeared to mostly be a smokescreen for another large failed probing assault in Zaporozhye. Ukrainian forces attacked south of Velyka Novosilka and they were brutally rebuffed, having lost a total, by some estimates, of 50 vehicles and 250 men.

    Videos like this one
    showed at least one small portion of the assault. Here are the relevant screencaps from the video showing some of the vehicle and armor losses, which include MaxxPros, Humvees, and T-72Bs: (Ed. see article images)

    And another huge batch destroyed in a separate area near Volnovakha: Ed. video embedded in article

    So, Ukraine captured a few border troops in a PR stunt, but they lost dozens of armor/vehicles and potentially hundreds of men in the same day—who really won the day? As per usual, they win the Twitter war.

    Not to mention that non-stop Russian strikes are taking out even far more materiel than we can see through such videos. If you recall, in yesterday’s report I ended with the note that a new round of missile strikes was beginning. And today we had confirmation from Ukraine’s airforce spokesman himself that a major UA airfield near Kirovograd was hit.

    Of course, to save face he has to give the obligatory lie that they shot down some standard number of the missiles, but this is all fake. They didn’t shoot down a single one. We know this because Ukraine uses any conceivable opportunity to boast and on the rare occasion they actually do shoot down a Russian missile they typically show the actual wreckage.

    When missiles are shot down, they are often in ‘whole’ condition because their warheads do not actually go off. We’ve seen this occasionally when UA did successfully shoot down one of Russia’s flagship missiles, they dance all over it and post a plethora of videos.

    Either way, that’s all to say that the doomers, propagandists, and 2D bloggers will have a field day with today’s little PR stunt but will conveniently ignore that Ukraine incurred massive losses from air strikes, failed offensives, etc.

    Here’s the official Russian MOD writeup for the failed Zaporozhye offensive today:
    [6/4/2023 6:27 PM]

    The Ministry of Defense about the attempts of the enemy to go on the offensive in the Zaporozhye direction.

    On the morning of June 4, the enemy launched a large-scale offensive in 5 sectors of the front in the YuzhnoDonetsk direction with the introduction of the 23rd and 31st mechanized brigades from the strategic reserves of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the support of other military units and subunits.

    In total, 6 mechanized and 2 enemy tank battalions were involved.

    The enemy's goal was to break through our defenses on the most vulnerable, in his opinion, sector of the front. The enemy did not achieve his tasks, he had no success

    As a result of skillful and competent actions of the Eastern Group of Forces, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine amounted to more than 250 personnel, 16 tanks, 3 infantry fighting vehicles, 21 armored fighting vehicles.

    The commander of the united group of troops, Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation Gerasimov during this period was at one of the forward command posts in this direction.

    [6/4/2023 6:41 PM]

    By the way, an important detail. If, according to the Ministry of Defense, Gerasimov was at one of the command posts in this direction at the time the enemy attacks began in the Zaporozhye direction, then our command has a very high level of awareness of the enemy’s deployment and plans. There are no coincidences in such matters.
    And as you can see in the videos, much of the losses were visually confirmed.

    Lest I be accused of “coping” though, keep in mind I do think the Belgorod situation is dangerous and unhealthy. And I don’t think Russian leadership is doing absolutely everything they can or handling it in the absolutely best fashion.

    One particular issue on that front is that Russia is forced to use actual conscripts, at least to my understanding. If you’ll recall, Russian conscripts are prohibited by law from participating in the SMO zone. Yes, that small technicality reads not that they’re prohibited from the SMO itself or any hostilities, but simply prohibited from being sent to the SMO zone, which in practice means Ukraine.

    However, on the Russian border, they are not inside Ukraine, and so it’s said that Russia is not only using them but one or two may have already previously either died or been captured. But, it’s important to note these conscripts do not make up the majority of the units but are simply part of the border zones. And this complicates matters for the Russian MOD and perhaps even indicates a weakness—that the Russian MOD perhaps didn’t quite think the border situation all the way through as clearly as they could have, relegating it to the back burner in favor of other more exigent priorities.

    So that is all to say that the Belgorod situation is a bit of a mess, and Ukraine is certainly using it to their fullest advantage, sowing all kinds of issues, which is precisely their plan. However, we must not let it deter us from the overall battlefield which, in the grand scheme of things, vastly overshadows these minor border scuffles.

    The other, and maybe bigger, issue was the other ‘wild’ occurrence today which was responsible for the title of this report.

    Wagner’s Prigozhin just could not keep out of the spotlight. And in grand fashion he’s outdone himself like never before. He uploaded documents with an official complaint claiming that Russian forces tried to shoot at and mine Wagner vehicles ‘from the rear’ to prevent them from leaving Bakhmut. The translated version:



    We all laughed and balked at the ridiculousness of the claim. Har, har, Yevgeny, that’s a good laugh. What a comedian. The Russian MOD perhaps laughed with us, and it seems it’s exactly what Prigozhin wanted, as he set the trap. In an interview elsewhere, he stated that he deliberately ‘saved the cherry on top’ to be revealed afterwards.

    And the cherry he dropped was a mega bombshell. Wagner forces “captured” the Russian commander of the 72nd Brigade who, whilst drunk, was caught shooting at the Wagner vehicles with his men. Yes, you read that correctly: Wagner captured a Russian commander as a POW.

    Okay, maybe that’s sensationalist. The truth is, we don’t actually know the full circumstances of this exchange. Some have theorized it may not even be Wagner that interrogated the man but rather he was reported to the local DPR authorities who took him in for questioning. Either way, here he is on video admitting to the crimes. Unfortunately, no official subtitles/translation exists yet so here was a somewhat scuffy auto machine translation:

    --------

    Tintin comment: I'm as certain as I can be that Prigozhin and Putin are playing some kind of psyop here, perhaps as a lure of some sort. Anyway....

    (article continues...)
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    Scott Ritter: NATO's war on Russia has failed | Redacted with Clayton Morris

    Former U.N. weapons inspector Scott Ritter joins Redacted to talk about his month long trip to Russia and what he saw in the stores, streets, and among the people. What he saw is frankly SHOCKING. Moscow was hit with another round of drone strikes by NATO and Ukrainian forces. Russia just struck Ukraine's intelligence headquarters destroying it.


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    Ukrainian counteroffensive attempt failed – Russian MOD 5 Jun, 2023

    Kiev’s botched attack took place in the southern part of Donetsk Region, according to the ministry


    Ukrainian forces attempted to mount a large-scale offensive in the southern part of the Donetsk People’s Republic, Russia's Defense Ministry claimed on Monday.

    In a statement, the ministry said that on Sunday, Ukrainian troops attempted to attack Russian forces using six mechanized and two tank battalions. However, it added that as a result of the actions of the ‘East’ military grouping, as well as owing to air strikes and artillery fire near the settlements of Neskuchnoye and Novodarovka, both of which are some 100km west of Donetsk, the Ukrainian forces incurred “significant losses.”

    As a result of the botched attack, in the last 24 hours Ukraine has lost up to 300 service members, 16 tanks, 26 armored and 14 ordinary vehicles, the statement read. “The enemy failed to accomplish its goals,” the ministry concluded.

    The ministry’s statement comes after earlier in the day it said that Ukraine had tried to break through Russian defenses in five sections of the front line in Donbass using its “strategic reserves,” but failed to do so.

    Ukrainian officials have for months promised to launch a counteroffensive, which initially was expected to happen in spring. Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky has on numerous occasions said that Kiev was “ready” for the push but “still needs a bit more time” in order to receive more Western weapons.

    Ukraine’s General Staff provided no comment on the counteroffensive, saying only that there had been 29 combat clashes in the Donetsk and neighboring Lugansk Regions in the last 24 hours. Ukraine’s Centre for Strategic Communications also failed to address Moscow’s statement head-on, but accused Russia of attempting to “spread false information” in order to demoralize Ukrainians.

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    Wagner Ready To Defend Russia's Border Region After Whole Towns Evacuated

    The war from across the border has impacted citizens in the Belgorod region of Russia to the point that many towns and villages have been evacuated, with some looking like ghost towns--this after armed groups mounted multiple raids since the war's start--as well as increased shelling and rocket fire. Just two days ago the anti-Moscow "Russian Volunteer Corps" said they launched another attack out of Ukraine, after a bigger one nearly two weeks ago left multiple casualties and many saboteurs killed.

    The New York Times wrote on Saturday that "Shebekino, a town of 40,000 six miles from the border, has effectively become a new part of the front line as Ukraine has intensified attacks inside Russia, including on residential areas near its own borders." This is all upending the lives of residents in the border region, akin to what already happened long ago on the Ukrainian side of the border. "The spate of assaults, most recently by militia groups aligned against Moscow, has sparked the largest military evacuation effort in Russia in decades," the report underscored. The past days have witnessed area residents move into temporary shelters, including the large Belgorod arena in the oblast capital.



    On Saturday the controversial founder and leader of Russia's Wagner mercenary group has offered in a message to the public that he stands ready to send his fighters to protect the border region.

    But as part of the ongoing public spat with the regular military chain of command, Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin blamed the army for failing in its duties, given all the latest Ukrainian attacks on Belgorod.

    "If the defense ministry, in the near future, does not stop what is happening in the Belgorod region.. then of course we will come to defend Russian land," Prigozhin said on Telegram.

    "The civilian population is dying in Belgorod," he added, and warned that he would not wait for an "invitation" to deploy his forces there. Earlier in the week Prigozhin went so far as to say some top Russian military commanders should be investigated for crimes related to failure of duty.

    Already the Russian military has been active in the region, particularly after the May 21-22 ground incursion by a militia group sent from Ukraine, which saw armed groups take over multiple villages for a short period of time.

    On Saturday two more civilians were killed in cross-border fire from Ukraine. This brings the overall death toll from the area to seven killed just this week. "Since this morning, the district of Shebekino has been under shelling of the Ukrainian armed forces," Belgorod governor Vyacheslav Gladkov said in a statement. One victim was described as an elderly woman, while another woman died from her wounds in the village of Bezlyudovka.

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    Ukrainian counteroffensive attempt failed – Russian MOD 5 Jun, 2023

    Kiev’s botched attack took place in the southern part of Donetsk Region, according to the ministry.
    An interim update. I'd guess much more will become known tomorrow.

    Yes, this is indeed some kind of offensive. But whatever the Ukraine military has tried to do, they appear to have sustained terrible losses. Early reports (all Russian so far, but overwhelmingly consistent) suggest that up to 2,000 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed and up to 30 tanks destroyed. Things are moving quickly, and there are many videos that seem to support the Russian reports.

    Thirty tanks destroyed is a heck of a lot, if this is correct. But it's easy to imagine that with the highly sophisticated and laser-accurate ISR (Intelligence, Surveillance, Reconnaissance) the Russians have, combined with air power and artillery that can target a moving tank from dozens of miles away, the hapless Ukrainians have little chance.

    It's all rather hard to watch; but one outcome of this might be that at last it speeds the end of the war.


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    UPDATED: Horrifying VIDEO 2000+ Dead Ukrainian Soldiers in Overnight War Fighting - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index...t-war-fighting

    I dont know about you , but we need to set up an island in the pacific and drop ship all of the people who start these wars on the island and have them call us when its over with . The good citizens of the world need to take a stand and tell world leaders to go pound sand when it comes to war , fighting, and bloodshed. We are better than this as a human species , we are better than this at love and not the latter. We are .................................................................................................... .................................................................................................... ..

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    Prigozhin drives the battle fields. Putin directs the war.
    Putin is more protected, I assume. Less is with Prigozhin.
    They talk about assassinating Putin (difficult to do), not Prigozhin (still difficult, but not as much, I guess)
    If Putin were taken out, war is over, right? If Prigozhin is taken out, war would still be dragged on, right? But how affective is it for Russia without Wagner?
    But they don't talk about taking out Prigozhin.

    Now. If Russia were to take over Ukraine in a heartbeat, China would be so gleeful to start on Taiwan.
    But the thing is it drags on and on. Who will hold out longer, Russia or the West, I wonder.
    China is getting old, fast. It probably wants to make its move but so much hesitancy. It can't just sit and wait out - getting older by the day.
    What a dilemma for China. Now that she's in doubt. What a feeling, feeling old and unsure.

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    If Putin were taken out, war is over, right?
    If Putin were taken out, the world would lose the moderating influence of a very measured, grounded and reasonable man, maybe the sanest politician in power right now on the entire planet. (Of course, the west is determined to cast him as a power-mad, murderous, warhawk psychopath, but nothing could be farther from the truth.)

    One scenario that might ensue: Medvedev would step in, and it might take little provocation for him to launch a nuclear first strike against the US and the EU. And that'd be after Kiev was turned to glass first. Everyone would be very smart to keep Putin exactly where he is.

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    Quote Posted by AuCo (here)
    If Putin were taken out, war is over, right?
    If Putin were taken out, the world would lose the moderating influence of a very measured, grounded and reasonable man, maybe the sanest politician in power right now on the entire planet. (Of course, the west is determined to cast him as a power-mad, murderous, warhawk psychopath, but nothing could be farther from the truth.)

    One scenario that might ensue: Medvedev would step in, and it might take little provocation for him to launch a nuclear first strike against the US and the EU. And that'd be after Kiev was turned to glass first. Everyone would be very smart to keep Putin exactly where he is.

    Well then, the answer is "No". Sometimes, what they say is not what they intend to do. It would be fitting if they want to keep the war going, right?

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