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    And also found here,

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    https://www.rt.com/russia/558083-rus...rway-blockade/

    Russia warns Norway over conflict in Arctic
    Moscow has summoned, on Wednesday, Norway’s charge d’affaires Solveig Rossebo over the “unacceptable” ban on the delivery of supplies to a Russian Arctic mining operation in the Svalbard Islands, the Foreign Ministry has announced.

    Norwegian media outlets had previously cited the authorities as confirming that the Russians on Svalbard were denied an exemption from sanctions that were imposed on Moscow over its conflict with Ukraine.

    The Russian Foreign Ministry said that miners and other personnel have been unable to receive “critical” goods, including food, medical equipment, building materials, and spare parts.

    Moscow promised “appropriate retaliatory measures” if the issue was not resolved.

    READ MORE: Russians in Arctic face Norwegian blockade
    Svalbard has been a flashpoint of diplomatic tensions between Moscow and Oslo before, when Norway tightened entry requirements following the 2015 visit of a senior Russian official under EU sanctions on account of Ukraine. Norway is not a member of the bloc.

    Russia protested that such behavior was violating the 1920 treaty that established Norwegian rule over the islands.

    This month, Moscow also accused Lithuania of breaking international law by suspending the transit of sanctioned goods in the Kaliningrad Region, a small Russian exclave on the Baltic Sea, and the rest of Russia.
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    30 JUN, 08:14
    Transnistria detects ‘military movement’ near its borders, says top diplomat

    At the end of April, a series of terrorist attacks occurred in Transnistria

    MOSCOW, June 30. /TASS/. The Transnistrian authorities are closely monitoring the situation near its southern and western borders and register "certain military movements", the foreign minister of the unrecognized republic, Vitaly Ignatiev, said during a Rossiya-24 TV broadcast on Thursday.

    "We are monitoring the situation. <...> We're working attentively on the entire perimeter of the border with Ukraine, we're also keeping an eye on the processes on the western border of Transnistria, on the Moldovan side. Of course, we are observing certain military movements there, a concentration of certain units. Work is being done in order to ensure maximum security, to protect the interests of our state, our citizens," he said.

    Ignatiev noted that Tiraspol is ready for any scenarios of events. "But we would not want any provocations against Transnistria," Ignatiev stressed.

    The minister recalled that in April, a group of 25-30 people had planted about 200 kilograms of explosives with the purpose of blowing up the antennas of the Mayak radio and TV center in Transnistria. "We know who was preparing, what was the path of this drone and who is involved in this kind of action, because the traces lead to the Yavorovo training ground in western Ukraine," Ignatiev pointed out.

    According to him, the Transnistrian authorities are concerned and constantly call for "adequacy" from partners in Ukraine and Moldova.

    Terrorist attacks in Transnistria

    At the end of April, a series of terrorist attacks occurred in Transnistria: the State Security Ministry was shelled with grenade launchers and the antennas of one of the largest radio and television centers in the region in the village of Mayak were blown up. The military airfield near Tiraspol and the arsenal near the village of Kolbasna, where about 20,000 tons of ammunition were stored after the withdrawal of Soviet troops from European countries were under attack. The facility is guarded by the Operational Group of Russian Forces.

    Transnistrian President Vadim Krasnoselsky said that the sabotage was organized from Ukrainian territory. According to him, employees of the Moldovan secret services were involved in the attempt to set fire to the military enlistment office in Tiraspol. After the terrorist attacks, the highest level of terrorist threat was introduced in the region and reinforced checkpoints were set up at the entrances to the cities. On May 25, the Transnistrian authorities lowered the terrorist threat level from red to yellow. Transnistrian authorities had repeatedly stated that Moldovan authorities were not cooperating in the investigation of these terrorist acts, although the Transnistrian side had provided them with relevant materials.

    On June 27, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky declared his readiness to respond with a "blow" to a hypothetical threat from Transnistria.
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    Russia as a threat, China as a competitor: NATO adopts new Strategic Concept

    MOSCOW, June 29. /TASS/. NATO considers Russia the "most significant and direct threat" to its security. Moscow has been excluded from NATO partners, according to the Strategic Concept, adopted during the summit in Madrid.

    The bloc also intends to counter China, expand its partnership in the Asia Pacific Region and on the post-Soviet territory, and reinforce its own defense capabilities. The expansion of the bloc was called a "historic success."

    Here are the key points of the new Strategic Concept.

    Russia as a threat

    - NATO recognizes Russia the most significant and direct threat to the alliance’s security.

    - The organization no longer wants to view Russia as a partner, but it is ready to maintain communications channel open. NATO also claims it does not seek confrontation with Russia and does not pose a threat to it.

    - The relations between NATO and Russia may change, but it depends on Moscow, the alliance believes.

    Countering China

    - NATO believes that deepening of partnership between Russia and China violates the alliance’s values and interests.

    - According to the alliance, China seeks to undermine the current world order by controlling global logistics and economy.

    - The alliance plans to deepen cooperation with its partners in the Indo-Pacific.

    Reinforcement of the bloc

    - NATO expansion has become a historic success for the alliance, reinforcing it and ensuring "security of millions of European citizens."

    - NATO intends to "significantly strengthen" its forces for deterrence of Russia and self-defense. The member states agreed to expand their military budgets above 2% of GDP.

    - The alliance views strategic nuclear forces, especially the US ones, as the highest guarantee of its security. The NATO nuclear deterrence strategy also depends on forward deployment of US nuclear weapons and contribution of interested allies.

    - NATO plans to develop advanced technologies, including military application of artificial intelligence.

    - The bloc considers external attack on its members possible.

    Ties with Ukraine

    - The bloc will continue reinforcing its partnership ties with Ukraine and Georgia, who seek to join the alliance.

    - NATO leaders adopted a program of enhanced support to Ukraine, providing as much military and financial aid to Kiev as necessary.
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    https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/stat...49817870589955


    https://twitter.com/Russiaconflict/s...19237175939073


    https://twitter.com/stephenharper/st...99549173305350
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    Nato's low artillery stockpile threatens deterrence against Russia
    Governments need to order defence industry to ramp up supplies of shells and missiles to meet new challenges

    Nato faces a significant challenge to adequately supply its new high readiness force with ammunition to defend against a potential Russian invasion, defence experts have said.

    European countries have sent significant amounts of their weapon stockpiles to Ukraine creating concerns over equipping the alliance's new high readiness force of 300,000 troops on the eastern flank.

    The National has learnt that there are a number of weapon systems that will take a long time to manufacture due to global supply shortages, including the NLAW anti-tank weapon.

    While America has huge stockpiles of tanks, armoured vehicles and ammunition, European Nato forces do not and have witnessed a “noticeable reductions in inventory”, military analysts have said.

    “There are issues around whether Nato has manufactured enough ammunition to meet its needs in the event of a war with Russia,” said military analyst Sam Cranny-Evans

    “Parts of our defence industry have been neglected quite badly and the governments know that. To fix this is going to require a different type of relationship between defence departments and industry.”

    The British-supplied NLAW anti-tank missile has proved highly successful against Russian tanks but it is difficult to obtain components for the system, including microchips provided by Taiwan.

    The UK has given 5,000 NLAWs to Ukraine and it is understood that the government recently placed an order for a similar amount to the Belfast-based company that makes them.

    However, the last major NLAW order was made in 2006 and now a number of components and machinery are difficult to replace.

    Ben Wallace, the Defence Secretary, has held urgent talks with the top UK defence companies, including BAE Systems, requesting they ramp up production to resupply Ukraine and ensure the home defences are adequately supplied.

    In its Strategic Concept announced on Wednesday Nato stated that it could not “discount the possibility of an attack against allies’ sovereignty” by Russia.

    It will now assemble a force of 300,000 troops for the front line in Eastern Europe with 100,000 troops at “very high readiness” able to deploy within 10 days.

    Light and heavy weapon systems, including air defence, artillery and tanks, will be “forward positioned” but there are questions whether they can be adequately supplied.

    A number of smaller Nato countries have depleted their stockpiles, with the Czech Republic and Slovakia donating more relatively than any other country in terms of infantry fighting vehicles and tanks.

    Poland has also supplied Ukraine with a quarter of its Soviet-era tank force sending 230 T72s out of its total of 860. It hopes to be “back-filled” by America supplying it with modern M1A1 Abrams tanks.

    France has given about 15 out of its total of 70 advanced Caesar artillery pieces that have great accuracy and out-range Russian guns.

    But there are questions over how readily Nato forces can build up stockpiles of artillery rounds that are proving effective in Ukraine.

    Currently Ukraine is expending about 6,000 shells a day with the Russian figure approaching 20,000 rounds.

    To build a credible deterrence Nato will have to create a stockpile to at least match the Russian expenditure, military experts have said.

    “Can western industry meet the demand of 20,000 rounds a day when the demand signal for so long has been for exquisite precision-guided munitions as opposed to mass fires?” said Mr Cranny-Evans, of the London-based RUSI think tank.

    “I personally don't believe they can right now. But if the political impetus is strong and determined enough, then there will be change. Because if you're not prepared to fight that long, grinding battle your deterrence is not credible.”

    There is also a problem with the different sizes of various Nato ammunition as the artillery pieces sent to Ukraine have five different calibres.

    However most of the combat vehicles sent are from stocks that are no longer widely used by Nato such as US Humvees or French VAB armoured vehicles.

    US President Joe Biden speaks at a news conference on the final day of the Nato summit in Madrid. AP

    Europe also retains strong air forces including fighter jets and attack helicopters that are largely superior to Russian aircraft.

    Also, production lines for advanced precision guided munitions such as Javelin anti-tank missiles, Hellfire and Brimstone missiles are running well as there have been continuing orders.

    Furthermore, defence observers say the weapons in Ukraine are causing significant attrition to Russian forces.

    “Nato powers are drawing down their weapon systems but these are achieving real effects in Ukraine damaging and destroying Russian capabilities, which advances European security in places like the Baltics,” commented the defence blogger known as “Perun”.

    A comment on his site mentioned Estonia sending 500 Javelin missiles to Ukraine in late February adding: “Every piece of Russian armour destroyed in Ukraine is one fewer system that can be used to invade the Baltics.”

    Up to 800 Russian tanks have been lost in Ukraine.
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    No, NATO Will Not Get Ready For War
    June 30, 2022

    I had a good laugh when I read this nonsense:

    NATO to boost troops on high alert to over 300,000 -Stoltenberg

    BRUSSELS (Reuters) - NATO will boost the number of troops on high alert by more than sevenfold to over 300,000, its secretary-general said on Monday, as allies prepared to adopt a new strategy describing Moscow as a direct threat four months into the Ukraine war.
    ...
    Stoltenberg said NATO in future would have "well over 300,000" troops on high alert, compared to 40,000 troops that currently make up the alliance's existing quick reaction force, the NATO Response Force (NRF).
    The new force model is meant to replace the NRF and "provide a larger pool of high readiness forces across domains, land, sea, air and cyber, which will be pre-assigned to specific plans for the defence of allies," a NATO official said.

    NATO does not have 300,000 troops to put on high alert. The troops are controlled by member states and I see no willingness by any of them to shoulder the costs that a real high alert status would have. Units on high alert means that they fully manned with no one on vacation and with enough supplies ready to sustain weeks of battle. All of that costs money. Member states will instead designate existing units as 'high alert' ones and change nothing else in their usual equipment and training.

    The statement is pure NATO public relations fluff. Stoltenberg did not even ask or inform member states before he made that announcement:

    Stoltenberg’s announcement caught the top defense officials of many NATO members off guard, leading them to question which of their forces, if any, were being included in the 300,000 figure.
    “Maybe it’s number magic?” said one senior European defense official, who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to talk frankly about the confusion.

    Several senior European security policymakers said they were taken by surprise, with no advance notice of the plan to expand NATO’s quick-response force from its current size of 40,000 in light of the Ukraine war and Russia’s ongoing military threats to NATO territory.

    This was one of the ideas that are typical for NATO bureaucrats who live in their own fantasy world. They are the reason why the French president Macron has called NATO 'brain dead'. And no, it is really nothing more than an idea:

    A NATO official, speaking on the condition of anonymity per the alliance’s ground rules, said that country-specific numbers still needed pinning down. Even the 300,000 total is theoretical for the moment: “The concept has not been fully worked up yet,” the official said. “We will have to do more to build up the model before we can work out what national commitments can be.”
    Even so, German Defense Minister Christine Lambrecht has already said her country will offer up 15,000 troops — a full division.

    Lambrecht offered nothing. She will put the fake 'high alert' label on an existing division and change nothing else. That she did this is actually quite revealing. If Germany as one of the bigger NATO countries offers only one division size element where will the other 19 division size elements come from that are needed to make up a 300,000 strong force? Do they even exist?

    NATO is just a shadow of its former self. Member states now have only a few troops that can be designated to work under NATO. Even those lack ammunition and depot weapons to make up for eventually losses. Some now even lack the industries to make more systems and grenades. They are also unable to make new ones that are fit for their purposes.

    Neither of the big or small 'modern' weapons that were given to Ukraine has made a difference. The Javelins had empty batteries, the British NLAW anti-tank weapons were too weak to defeat Russian armor. Switchblade suicide drones are not controllable under Russian electronic warfare conditions. Stinger missiles have heat sensors that are too slow to acquire a fast moving target. The 'light' howitzer M-777 are too light for real battle conditions and tend to break.

    NATO countries have put too much money into their air forces which will be unable to break through Russia's excellent air defenses. NATO's air defense is in contrast too weak. Just ask the Saudis how well their Patriot systems worked against Yemeni drones. Those systems can do nothing against Russia's medium range missiles. System like Iskander and Kalibr, of which Russia has many, are hard to find in NATO armies.

    What is the last time NATO units have trained under electronic warfare conditions?

    The New York Times interviewed nearly two dozen Ukrainian soldiers over the last several weeks who all pointed to similar problems: Russians jammed their radios constantly; they didn’t have enough communication gear; and they often had difficulty getting through to a commander to call for artillery support. Talking to units stationed nearby was also an issue, they said, which has led to Ukrainian forces occasionally firing on one another.
    ...
    The General said that his two off-the-shelf radios were jammed constantly.
    “They would use the stronger signal on the same frequency,” he said.

    Troops in more specialized units have been issued U.S.-supplied encrypted radios and can speak to one another unhindered, one soldier said, but the radio’s high output means the Russians can find the locations they are broadcasting from.

    “This is why we stopped communicating and only communicated the necessary minimum, such as if an evacuation was needed or an urgent help,” the soldier, who goes by the name Raccoon, added.

    Materially NATO is not ready to fight. Politically it is also not ready.

    John Helmer quotes excerpts from an interview with the former chief of staff of the Polish army, Miecyslaw Gocul:

    You complain, and [NATO Secretary-General] Jens Stoltenberg has announced: “The NATO summit in Madrid will be groundbreaking. With a new strategic concept, we will make a fundamental change in NATO’s deterrence and defense.”
    Before the NATO summit in Warsaw [in 2016]), at the Pact’s military committee, I asked Stoltenberg: what will be the guarantees for the eastern flank? He replied with a question: what else does Poland expect? I said straight out: security and prosperity, which is what the rest of us sitting at the table want.”

    “Just like then, I hear the same slogans today, such as ‘do more with less’. There are also other fine-sounding calls, but these are only political slogans calculated for a positive public reaction and minimizing costs. They do not really bring about any political and military solutions.
    ...
    Now the tension between Russia and Lithuania is growing, because the sanctions are blocking the Kaliningrad Oblast more and more. Could this be a hotspot?

    If Putin wanted to start the war further and decided to cut a corridor through the Baltics to the Kaliningrad District at the Suwałki Gap, what forces could stop him? Could the forces of Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Poland stop Putin? Not at all. Putin will not be stopped by the Americans, who are present on the eastern flank only in small numbers. I repeat, Russia talks and calculates only with strong countries and organizations. And NATO in our region is weak.

    It indeed is. And except for few east European hot heads, everyone hopes that it will stay so. None of the bigger NATO member countries wants a large fight with Russia. That includes the United States. Why then prepare for it? Why buy weapons that will never be used?

    On the other side Russia does not want anything from Europe. It does not have an ideology that seeks expansion. It wants to be left alone.

    NATO is a cold war relict that was kept alive to give the U.S. some political advantages. Its real purpose has never changed: keep Germany down, Russia out and the U.S. in Europe. That will only change when western Europe starts to rebel against it.

    Unfortunately the chances for that are low.
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    MoD: Russian Military Withdraws Forces From Zmeiniy Island as Gesture of Good Will

    Ostrov Zmeiniy, or Snake Island, located about 140 km south of Odessa, was seized by Russian forces during the first stage of the special operation, as... 30.06.2022, Sputnik International

    The Russian Ministry of Defense announced on Thursday that troops had left Zmeiniy Island in the Black Sea, stressing it was a demonstration of Moscow's good will amid the special op.
    "On June 30, as a goodwill gesture, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation completed their assigned tasks on Zmeiniy Island and withdrew the garrison stationed there. Thus, it has been demonstrated to the world community that the Russian Federation does not interfere with the efforts of the UN to organize a humanitarian corridor for the export of agricultural products from the territory of Ukraine," the ministry said.

    Moscow added that now it is up to Kiev to stop the blockade in the area, since Ukraine has not yet removed the sea mines which prevent ships from leaving Black Sea ports.The troop withdrawal also shows that Russia is not opposing the establishment of a UN humanitarian corridor which would allow shipments of grain to leave Ukraine.

    Previously, this became a critical issue after the UN warned of the threat of a food crisis due to a shortage of grain exported from Ukraine. Moscow lambasted the reports suggesting that Russian forces may be impeding the deliveries, noting that the ports were blocked by the Ukrainian military.

    At the same time, the Russian Foreign Ministry added that western countries have caused the crisis by their own decisions since Russian ships delivering grain abroad were sanctioned and could neither be insured nor accepted in European ports.

    Zmeiniy, or Snake Island is a patch of land with a combined area of just 0.17 square km (51 acres), which is situated 40 km from Romania, currently a NATO member. It became part of Ukraine after the collapse of the USSR, but Bucharest has claimed it for itself, citing disagreements with Kiev about the delimitation of the continental shelf.

    Over the past months, Ukrainian forces have tried to retake the island, but failed, losing warplanes, drones and troops.
    Moscow launched the special operation on February 24 in order to put an end to an eight-year- long war, waged by Ukrainian forces in Donbass, which claimed over 13,000 lives since 2014. Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Kiev's actions in the region amount to genocide and stressed that Ukraine should be demilitarised and de-Nazified.
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    Oh noooooo.....

    This is hilarious, but also shows a very true reality. And like other people have said before, the current politicians in the west are very very far from the good ones that have long moved to other (worldly) tasks by now. It's just true, why is everyone some kind of clown and 'not presentable'? How did this happened? Is this truly the best and the very top? Would these clown show be any kind of presentable 30+ years ago? I don't know. Everyone over there seems to be brutally, mentally ill, honestly

    https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/13203
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    Oh look, a very, very interesting development

    https://t.me/FilatovCorr/204


    Polymer (hollow point) bullets have surfaced, provided by "NATO partners" to Ukraine, these are illegal in a war zone, and i believe considered a war crime just to produce them around, or something on those lines. This is a Hague prohibition

    Have we just found the 'Western partners' in breach of international war laws? Is the Hague yet another lame/useless body of law or whatever?

    This leads to lots of questions:

    1. Did the Ukro gov knew? And did they agree to this?
    2. It is impossible for the west to say "we did not know", as they provide this ammo from their own factories. They had to specifically order it for Ukraine, in the hundreds of thousands of rounds
    3. They very much know this is a war crime and illegal and leads to a global war crime trial. Unless they already bought everyone on the group who could trial them? And if that's the case, then there's no 'international law' anymore

    Plain and simple

    ETA: let me explain more

    There are hollow point rounds for other uses. But those on the picture, those are NOT supposed to be produced ever, at all, these are not for hunting, these are 'war zone' rounds. So now here's the question, did someone build a factory that produces those? Because i don't think they produced 2 or 100 and then shipped them over. That's a factory producing thousands of them and there's a backlog probably, and also someone had to engineer that thing and test it under some kind of budget and military approved environment

    So, explanations are required, but not expected. The corrupt devil is not anymore 'under the shadows'
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    The US made anti air guns, are obsolete, they assume specific patterns of flight

    Here's the thing, they have not been able to see what happened after the Afghanistan war (of soviet times) mostly. And they are slow and assume things, but just now, a video from the Ukros has surfaced that shows something that, even if not new, displays in plain view why and how the entire US stockpile of anti-aircraft armament is obsolet

    The US knows this, that's why they are dropping it non-stop into Ukraine, so that it gets burned there and then there's a reason to buy new/not obsolete, systems. They are using of course, Ukraine as a testing ground, because they know they are by now very very outdated, so they are trying to catch up and Ukraine is the testing bed and ground for it, they are sacrificing every single soldier out there so they can record the data and see the difference between guns and other stuff like tactics and strategy, and then build a new army out of that. To the last ukrainian if needed. But they will extract all possible knowledge out of this, even if it takes down the EU as well.

    It is a matter of:

    America: The US is going to overcome this
    EU: And we too, right? We too!
    America: .... yes, 'you too'
    Ukraine: And we are going to be europeans, right?
    Ukraine: Right?
    Ukraine: Why are you not replying?
    Ukraine: I hear something bad going out there, hold on let me go check
    Ukraine: Oh my gooooood there's something out there i can't help to control, please help me!
    Ukraine: Why is everyone silent on the chat?
    US: We're here body, tell us all about it
    EU: I have clean roads and good TV channels
    Ukraine: Oh good, i thought you did not care for me, i have like a million dead out there now, can you help?
    Biden: We're here body, tell us about it
    EU: I have clean roads and good TV channels
    Ukraine: yes, but.. help?
    Biden: I have lots of old guns that i don't need, but i can give them to you, you pay in instances for several generations
    EU: I too, have a lot of obsolete crap i need to throw away, but i'm with you bro!
    EU: I have clean roads and good TV channels
    EU: I have clean roads and good TV channels
    EU: I have clean roads and good TV channels
    EU: I have clean roads and good TV channels
    Biden: I too, agree with whatever my already dumbed down partner said, whatever that is
    Ukraine: Oh my god, a missile that is not supposed to exist just hit us with all its might!
    EU: I have clean roads and good TV channels
    Biden: I too, agree with whatever my already dumbed down partner said, whatever that is


    ETA: Missed the video link

    https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/13211
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    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    The US made anti air guns, are obsolete, they assume specific patterns of flight

    Here's the thing, they have not been able to see what happened after the Afghanistan war (of soviet times) mostly. And they are slow and assume things, but just now, a video from the Ukros has surfaced that shows something that, even if not new, displays in plain view why and how the entire US stockpile of anti-aircraft armament is obsolet

    The US knows this, that's why they are dropping it non-stop into Ukraine, so that it gets burned there and then there's a reason to buy new/not obsolete, systems. They are using of course, Ukraine as a testing ground, because they know they are by now very very outdated, so they are trying to catch up and Ukraine is the testing bed and ground for it, they are sacrificing every single soldier out there so they can record the data and see the difference between guns and other stuff like tactics and strategy, and then build a new army out of that. To the last ukrainian if needed. But they will extract all possible knowledge out of this, even if it takes down the EU as well.

    It is a matter of:

    America: The US is going to overcome this
    EU: And we too, right? We too!
    America: .... yes, 'you too'
    Ukraine: And we are going to be europeans, right?
    Ukraine: Right?
    Ukraine: Why are you not replying?
    Ukraine: I hear something bad going out there, hold on let me go check
    Ukraine: Oh my gooooood there's something out there i can't help to control, please help me!
    Ukraine: Why is everyone silent on the chat?
    US: We're here body, tell us all about it
    EU: I have clean roads and good TV channels
    Ukraine: Oh good, i thought you did not care for me, i have like a million dead out there now, can you help?
    Biden: We're here body, tell us about it
    EU: I have clean roads and good TV channels
    Ukraine: yes, but.. help?
    Biden: I have lots of old guns that i don't need, but i can give them to you, you pay in instances for several generations
    EU: I too, have a lot of obsolete crap i need to throw away, but i'm with you bro!
    EU: I have clean roads and good TV channels
    EU: I have clean roads and good TV channels
    EU: I have clean roads and good TV channels
    EU: I have clean roads and good TV channels
    Biden: I too, agree with whatever my already dumbed down partner said, whatever that is
    Ukraine: Oh my god, a missile that is not supposed to exist just hit us with all its might!
    EU: I have clean roads and good TV channels
    Biden: I too, agree with whatever my already dumbed down partner said, whatever that is
    That's hilarious, and all too true! And also a sad commentary on psychopathic US cynicism.

    It surely came as a shock for the Pentagon (and Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, Boeing and all the rest) to see how badly US weapons functioned in a "real war".

    I'd be sure there was also an early plan to use Ukraine as a sales demonstration. But now, most of the rest of the non-US-EU world will be queuing up to buy Russian weapons instead. And China, no-one's fool, has been watching all this play out with great interest.

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    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    Oh look, a very, very interesting development

    https://t.me/FilatovCorr/204

    Polymer (hollow point) bullets have surfaced, provided by "NATO partners" to Ukraine, these are illegal in a war zone, and i believe considered a war crime just to produce them around, or something on those lines. This is a Hague prohibition
    Yes — very very interesting. Here's one of many articles that may be relevant:
    U.S. Army Considers More-Lethal Hollow Point Bullets for New Sidearm

    Despite their popularity with police and civilian populations, the rounds are banned in international warfare by the Hague Convention.

    (My own comments —>)

    It's always seemed highly strange to me that there are such things in war as 'illegal weapons'.

    Meaning, it's considered perfectly ethical and moral, and just absolutely perfectly happily fine, to kill someone in one way, but not in another. Someone might die an agonizing, drawn-out, traumatic and terrible lonely death in a trench, with a leg or an arm blown off through "legal" artillery fire. But a much quicker and more merciful death via (e.g.) a nerve toxin, or cyanide, is somehow considered "immoral".

    This is why the ETs don't land, even after all these years. They're still trying their best to understand how humans think.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    Oh look, a very, very interesting development

    https://t.me/FilatovCorr/204

    Polymer (hollow point) bullets have surfaced, provided by "NATO partners" to Ukraine, these are illegal in a war zone, and i believe considered a war crime just to produce them around, or something on those lines. This is a Hague prohibition
    Yes — very very interesting. Here's one of many articles that may be relevant:
    U.S. Army Considers More-Lethal Hollow Point Bullets for New Sidearm

    Despite their popularity with police and civilian populations, the rounds are banned in international warfare by the Hague Convention.

    (My own comments —>)

    It's always seemed highly strange to me that there are such things in war as 'illegal weapons'.

    Meaning, it's considered perfectly ethical and moral, and just absolutely perfectly happily fine, to kill someone in one way, but not in another. Someone might die an agonizing, drawn-out, traumatic and terrible lonely death in a trench, with a leg or an arm blown off through "legal" artillery fire. But a much quicker and more merciful death via (e.g.) a nerve toxin, or cyanide, is somehow considered "immoral".

    This is why the ETs don't land, even after all these years. They're still trying their best to understand how humans think.
    Quote They're still trying their best to understand how/IF humans think.


    I have thought that way too many times. Let's not shoot you to death, allow you to suffer the pain instead, or be resqued, but a mortar can take off your legs and arms and leave you out there in the field alive for 20 hours without food/water or any help and until your body dies out of the impossibility of it all, or how we call it "injuries incompatible with life"... lmfao! That's indeed a good way to put it "incompatible with life"

    But if a bear bomber comes around and flattens the entire town and the only think remaining of you is some dust, that was "less human" as 'you didn't stand a chance'. A chance for you to die in 20 hours or until your body truly gives up, against a chance to die immediately and don't even know what happened? Have ever seen a person all dried up from the sun hitting them directly in the head, as they slowly died because they could not move? They look like dried potatoes, and the animals eat their eyes first, then the lips and the ears, and then everything else if they can

    Are some humans compatible with 'rational thinking'? I wonder, lol
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    Luongo: The G-7 Squawks But They've Already Lost The War Against Russia

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...against-russia

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    https://twitter.com/TheCradleMedia/s...45921406451712


    https://thecradle.co/Article/news/12483

    CIA recruits ISIS fighters from SDF-run prisons in Syria to fight in Ukraine: Report

    The CIA is actively working to recruit ISIS militants imprisoned by the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) in northeast Syria to join the fight against the Russian army in Ukraine.

    According to an informed source who spoke with Sputnik News, the US army is transferring the militants to the Al-Tanf military base in southern Syria to provide them with the necessary training.

    The transfers are taking place under the pretext of “conducting additional investigations.”

    “The Kurds have so far handed over several high-ranking leaders and about 90 ISIS fighters to the American side, most of whom are citizens of European Union countries and Iraq, as well as immigrants from Chechnya and the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region in China,” according to the Sputnik source.

    “In the future, Washington intends to send these militants to Ukraine so that they can take part in hostilities against the Russian armed forces,” the source added.

    This is the latest report coming from Syria that says extremist militants are being recruited to fight on the behalf of Kiev against the Kremlin forces.

    Since the start of Russia’s military invasion of Ukraine, hundreds of militants belonging to Al-Qaeda, Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS), and ISIS have reportedly been transferred to eastern Europe after being trained at Al-Tanf.

    Moscow has also warned that instructors from the controversial White Helmets non-government organization (NGO) have been deployed to Ukraine, allegedly for the purpose of staging a “false flag chemical attack” to blame on Russia.

    According to a report by RT Arabic TV, approximately 500 ISIS fighters and militants from the Caucasus and Central Asian countries are undergoing training at the US base to carry out attacks against units of the Russian army both inside Syria and in Ukraine.

    Last month, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov said mercenaries and military specialists from 64 countries are involved in hostilities in Ukraine.

    Foreign mercenaries from around the globe joined Ukraine after President Volodymyr Zelensky pleaded for global assistance following Russia’s military invasion, with many of these mercenaries coming from Israel.

    The US army has long been accused of offering support to ISIS fighters in Iraq and Syria.

    In 2015, following the start of the conflict between Ukraine and the separatist republics of the Donbass, the New York Times reported that ISIS fighters openly sided with Ukraine to fight against the Russian-backed separatists.
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