WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

[Tintin]

Another staged piece of atrocity propaganda in the making? We'll see. Via DDGeopolitics posted today:

Source: https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/107711

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💬 "A column of cars and minibuses with Z symbols appeared near Kharkov. Locals initially thought they were our military, but it turned out to be Ukrainian soldiers dressed in our uniform. Zelensky seems to be preparing a new Bucha. Residents of the Kharkiv region should be extremely vigilant and careful."

In other news:

🇷🇺⚔️🇺🇦 Russian Ministry of Defense Briefing - Main Points

➡️Over the past day, the air defense system destroyed three guided aerial bombs (Hammer and JDAM), one HIMARS projectile, and 41 Ukrainian UAVs.

➡️Ukrainian Armed Forces lost up to 470 servicemen in the Donetsk sector within a day.

➡️Up to 60 Ukrainian soldiers and 6 units of equipment were eleiminated on the Belgorod sector.

➡️In the Belgorod direction, the Russian Armed Forces "North" group struck live forces and equipment of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the areas of the Kharkov and Sumy regions.

🐻⚠️ This is the first time the Russian Forces "North" group, operating on the Kharkov/Sumy border, is mentioned in the MoD briefing.

🔴 @DDgeopolitics

[Ravenlocke]

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Syrsky decided to disperse the Right Sector

The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is disbanding the 67th separate mechanized brigade, created at the beginning of the SMO on the basis of the so-called Ukrainian Volunteer Corps "Right Sector".

From the official statement of the leadership of the 67th brigade it follows that the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine began to transfer all commanders and militants to other units without explanation, “it is likely that someone wants to destroy the "Right Sector" organization itself.”

@ukr_leaks_eng

https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1779555904641257661

[Ravenlocke]

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🇷🇺⚔️🇺🇦 Situation at Chasov Yar:

Units of the 98th Airborne Troops continue offensive and assault operations.

The fighting is now taking place in the forests, where the Ukrainians are holed up in holes and trenches. Several pickup trucks carrying personnel from the 41st and 67th APU brigades were destroyed.

Friendly units are advancing from the south. The Ukrainian forces settled in the Kanal microdistrict in the active phase of defense, using high-rise buildings and basements; no one entered the settlement itself.

However, during the day, artillery, tanks and mortars worked on the forward positions of Russian troops and conducted continuous fire on Artemovsk, possibly preparing to carry out counterattacks in order to push back the 98 Airborne Troops.

The situation will remain difficult but stable.

Archangel of Special Forces.

rusich_army

https://x.com/dana916/status/1779555505045729669

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https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1779534367712325865

[Ravenlocke]

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🇷🇺🇺🇸🇪🇺 Russia’s victory in Ukraine will destroy the authority of the West and its control over the world order - The Economist

By providing comprehensive support to their ally, Ukraine, the United States and Europe have put their authority at stake . Russia's victory in Ukraine will be the greatest humiliation of the West since the Suez crisis, states the British The Economist.

In Russia, China, India and the countries of the Global South, defenders of Ukraine will be perceived as nothing more than empty-headed people who can only discuss UN resolutions and harp on language at EU and NATO summits

Shame is not the worst thing the EU will experience if Russia wins. Fear will come to Europe. The head of the Russian state mentioned Nazism in the Baltic countries . This takes on a special hue against the background of the fact that the fight against Nazism is one of Russia’s goals in the conflict in Ukraine

Just a year ago, talk that Russia has the best army in Europe caused laughter in the West. It's not funny for anyone today. Vladimir Putin stands at the head of a victorious army - the only fighting force with the experience and training of modern warfare of the 21st century. In the EU she is opposed by cowardly Europeans with depleted military arsenals

If Ukraine loses, Russia will determine the world order, said former NATO head George Robertson

“GROWTH CRYSTAL” previously cited the opinion of leading American economist Paul Craig Roberts: “Fools in Washington, instead of undermining Russia in the interests of US hegemony, created a replacement for itself - Russia as a world leader"

SolovievLive

https://x.com/dana916/status/1779551568813007077

[Ravenlocke]

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Maria Zakharova’s TG Channel:

Israeli Ambassador to Russia Simone Halperin: Israel expects Russia to condemn Iran's massive missile attack on the country.

Simona, remind me when Israel condemned at least one strike by the Kyiv regime on Russian regions? Don't remember? And I. But I remember regular statements in support of Zelensky’s actions from Israeli officials. Those very criminal, terrorist actions of the bastards on Bankova, as a result of which, year after year, civilians are killed and civilian infrastructure is destroyed.

https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1779482376315240663

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https://x.com/mazzenilsson/status/1779546742955884637

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https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1779462024491053440

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‼️🇷🇺💥 Russian aviation carries out massive strikes on fortified areas of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Georgievka area

Regular attacks on the positions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces force the militants to suffer heavy losses, and also destroy the enemy’s military infrastructure along the entire LBS.
- RVvoenkor

https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1779465243636203705

https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1779465623916990514

[ExomatrixTV]

• I Advise You To Prepare For The Surrender Of Ukraine! Nebenzya, Russia:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=KHxGlyskC6M

Nebenzya: Very soon the capitulation of Ukraine will be the only topic for any international meetings! The official representative of Russia in the United Nations Security Council Vasily Nebenzya spoke about the crisis around Ukraine.

[christian]

Posted by christian (here)
He also said in the same interview that if Ukraine doesn't join NATO, Russia would absorb Ukraine within the next 10-12 years. So one way or another, according to Arestovich, Putin had designs on Ukraine. This is also evident from statements of Putin's advisor Vladislav Surkov since 2006. He was all about asserting Russian influence beyond Russia's borders, basically wanting to rival the US and NATO as an imperialist power. From what I can see, both the US/NATO and Russian leadership are all about more power for themselves and using smaller countries in their interest, but neither to bring democracy nor to liberate them.

Posted by Bruce G Charlton (here)
@christian - "absorb Ukraine within the next 10-12 years"

Not "absorb", surely.

Russia has always stated that they want Ukraine as a separate de-militarized (de-Nazified) state - i.e. a "buffer state" between Russia and the West.

So far as I can tell; everything Russia has done so far is consistent with such statements.

What you're saying is confirming that Russia wanted to influence internal Ukrainian politics. Russia wanted to keep or integrate Ukraine into its sphere of influence, that's effectively absorbing. In any case, "absorbing" was the word used by Arestovich, who was posted here because he correctly predicted that Russia would attack Ukraine for wanting to join NATO. Both the West and Russia play a power game in Ukraine. I said it before but it bears repeating, it's astonishing to me how many in the alternative media bubble see the duplicity of the West, but not that of the Russian government. Let me break it to you, virtually all governments are severely crooked, especially the biggest ones, that includes the Russian government.

Russia wanted Ukraine to be aligned with Russia. Russia didn't want Ukraine to be independent or neutral, which would mean Ukraine could have made treaties with both sides. Russia explicitly rejected that. Ukraine has been in the CIS free trade area with Russia since 2011. When Ukraine also wanted to sign a trade agreement with the EU, Putin's advisor Sergey Glazyev commented that this would violate the 1997 Russian–Ukrainian Friendship Treaty, suggesting that if Ukraine signed the treaty with the EU, Russia would no longer be bound to recognize Ukraine's sovereignty.

Glazyev literally said, "We don't want to use any kind of blackmail. This is a question for the Ukrainian people, but legally, signing this agreement about association with EU, the Ukrainian government violates the treaty on strategic partnership and friendship with Russia." If a diplomat says "we don't want to use blackmail, but…" it's obviously blackmail, not even a thinly veiled threat, it's an open threat. And for what? For not being in an exclusive partnership with Russia? And you're telling me Russia has not been trying to dominate Ukraine all along?

The Russian government has formally confirmed that all countries, including former Soviet countries like Ukraine, can do whatever they want in terms of alliances, including military alliances. Russia signed off on this in the 1997 NATO-Russia Founding Act and the 1999 Istanbul Document by the OSCE. Russia literally allowed Ukraine (and every other country) to join NATO, but then Putin claimed NATO was cheating Russia by expanding, even though a renunciation of NATO enlargement was never agreed upon in any treaty, even though Putin likes to pretend that NATO countries promised that. NATO never promised it, it was offered in negotiations, but it was never agreed upon in a formal contract.

By the way, Russia threatened and deceived NATO more than once. In 2007, Russia unilaterally withdrew from the Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe, which limits armaments in Europe. Russia wrote itself a blank check for a military buildup, nixing the 1990 agreement with NATO. In the 2009 Zapad ("West") exercise, the Russian military simulated an attack on NATO member Poland. Nevertheless, NATO sought to deepen cooperation with Russia in its 2010 Strategic Concept, but this was rejected by Russia. Instead, further Zapad exercises followed in 2013 and 2017. Russia likely underreported the number of soldiers to avoid having to invite foreign observers, as required by the OSCE's Vienna Document. All Zapad exercises included rehearsals for attacks on Eastern European NATO members.

I also have to repeat this, because I'm sure some will take my words the wrong way. I'm not making excuses for NATO. They're criminals, and the 2014 Maidan coup was illegal and backed by NATO. That's all wrong. But that doesn't make it right to add another wrong on top of it by Russia invading Ukraine. Ukraine is nothing but a pawn in the power game of NATO and Russia, unfortunately, and both sides don't play fair. Both sides want Ukraine in their sphere of influence, and both sides are willing to use deadly force to achieve this. And I know this is not appreciated here, but Russia has initiated more deadly force in Ukraine than the West by invading in 2022 and also by launching the Donbas War. Crimeans wanted to be part of Russia, but Donbas residents didn't. This is clear from numerous surveys, check it for yourselves. I don't think these surveys are biased, because they also show clearly that residents of Crimea did want to join Russia, but not the majority of people in Donbas. The Donbas War started because of Russian mercenaries who operated in Donbas since 2014, despite Russian denials. Igor Girkin and others really kicked off the Donbas War after the annexation of Crimea. The Donbas War was not started by regular Donbas citizens whom the Russian-backed militants claimed to represent or liberate. Most Donbas residents rejected militant separatism.

Surveys proving Donbas residents rejected separatism and wanted to Ukraine to remain united:

https://kiis.com.ua/?lang=eng&cat=reports&id=236&page=1

https://iri.org/wp-content/uploads/l...26,%202014.pdf

https://archive.kyivpost.com/article...er-342872.html

https://kiis.com.ua/?lang=eng&cat=news&id=258

https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2...er-divided-yet

https://iri.org/resources/ukraine-po...ain-in-ukraine

https://www.zois-berlin.de/fileadmin...ort_3_2019.pdf


Russia's military involvement in Donbas since 2014:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28949582

https://www.vice.com/en/article/mbw8...re-coming-home


And please don't come at me with, "BBC and VICE are propaganda and not reliable." I know that. But some reports are factual. These are. Check the content for yourself.

[Vicus]

WATCH Ukrainian soldiers surrender in Donbass 14 Apr, 2024

The servicemen complain of atrocious treatment in the army, the Russian Defense Ministry has said



https://mf.b37mrtl.ru/files/2024.04/...733458b736.mp4



The Defense Ministry in Moscow reported on Saturday that nine servicemen from Ukraine’s elite 25th Airborne Brigade surrendered to the Russian Army.

Footage from the ministry shows the moment several soldiers laid down their arms near the settlement of Vodyanoye in Russia’s Donetsk People’s Republic.

According to the ministry, the servicemen reported atrocious treatment within the Ukrainian Army. In the video, they complain about poor planning of combat operations.

“Our superiors don’t care about us, they don’t want to go to frontline positions to assess the situation… It seemed better to surrender than to die without understanding why and what for,” one of them was filmed as saying.

“The commanders send us to die, like waste material, while they themselves are somewhere on the sidelines… When we were captured, our own people fired at us. I guess it means that no one really needs us there,” another said.

According to the Defense Ministry, the Russian military has set up a separate communication channel for Ukrainian soldiers who want to surrender.

The number of those laying down their arms has been steadily growing recently, Igor Kimakovsky, an adviser to the head of the Donetsk People’s Republic, Denis Pushilin, told RIA Novosti on Sunday. He noted that the Ukrainian Army punishes soldiers who try to surrender.

Ukraine has been increasingly reliant on forced conscription to bolster its frontline units, amid a shortage of volunteers and a high number of battlefield casualties. In early February, several Ukrainian commanders told the Washington Post that their units were staffed at around 35% or less.

Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu earlier estimated Ukraine’s casualties at more than 444,000 soldiers since the conflict began in February 2022. The government in Kiev insists that only 31,000 Ukrainian servicemen have been killed in the conflict so far.



https://swentr.site/russia/595930-uk...-russian-army/

[Vicus]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=BQc5JtK6hEc

3 hours ago

[christian]

Posted by Vicus (here)
The servicemen complain of atrocious treatment in the army, the Russian Defense Ministry has said

I have no doubt this is true. And I know for a fact that there are tons of reports, just the same, from the other side. I listened to Russian soldiers who defected who tell exactly the same stories.

What does it mean? It means that "war is a racket," and we all should know that, cause Smedley Butler said it in 1935. Poor people are treated like expendable cannon fodder, both in Russia and Ukraine, and elsewhere. It's terrible, and we should do everything to stop it. The system wants to draw us all into a war mindset, cause war is collective ritual abuse, it's their game, and they want us to play it. In the end, it's not even that important for them which side we're on as long as we choose a side, act like people on one side are humans and people on the other side are not, and collectively play the ritual abuse game. The only way out is to see the war racket for what it is and to reject it completely. Psychopaths profit from poor people killing each other, and in the bigger picture, they benefit from humanity entering the ritual abuse matrix. Let's get out of there, let's not follow psychopathic leaders, let's not put on uniforms and kill each other, let's instead develop empathy for the common people, for ourselves, and do what's in our best interests, and it's certainly not war.

[Jaak]

Posted by christian (here)

Posted by Vicus (here)
The servicemen complain of atrocious treatment in the army, the Russian Defense Ministry has said

I have no doubt this is true. And I know for a fact that there are tons of reports, just the same, from the other side. I listened to Russian soldiers who defected who tell exactly the same stories.

What does it mean? It means that "war is a racket," and we all should know that, cause Smedley Butler said it in 1935. Poor people are treated like expendable cannon fodder, both in Russia and Ukraine, and elsewhere. It's terrible, and we should do everything to stop it. The system wants to draw us all into a war mindset, cause war is collective ritual abuse, it's their game, and they want us to play it. In the end, it's not even that important for them which side we're on as long as we choose a side, act like people on one side are humans and people on the other side are not, and collectively play the ritual abuse game. The only way out is to see the war racket for what it is and to reject it completely. Psychopaths profit from poor people killing each other, and in the bigger picture, they benefit from humanity entering the ritual abuse matrix. Let's get out of there, let's not follow psychopathic leaders, let's not put on uniforms and kill each other, let's instead develop empathy for the common people, for ourselves, and do what's in our best interests, and it's certainly not war.

After you go through russian style military training then no wonder they have moral problems..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGi8mbzOLwY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkRiDVV4IGA
I read somewhere that average russian soldier shoots around 100 bullets during their military service because they cant be trusted anymore with live ammunition. That was already years ago.Have been too many cases of people shooting up the military base because of their traumas from ¨dedovshchina¨. And because russia is now using also alot of convicts in the war who got a strong ¨blatnoy¨or ¨urki¨ mentality and they rule over others with no remorse as they would in a prison cell with 20 people in it hasnt also helped with the moral of others who are forced to be their subjects..

The noun blatnoy (блатной) has an explicitly criminal meaning in Russian. It usually refers to a member of a thief gang – blatnoy itself means "professional criminal". The term originally meant "one possessing the correct paperwork", which, in the corrupt officialdom of Imperial Russia and the Soviet Union, indicated that the blatnoy was well connected. It later came to indicate career criminals because they had a blatnoy, or special status, in the Russian criminal underworld. The word is used to indicate association with the criminal underworld (e.g. "blatnoy language"/Fenya, "blatnoy behavior", "blatnoy outlook").[10]

[shaberon]

Posted by christian (here)
Ukraine is nothing but a pawn in the power game of NATO and Russia, unfortunately, and both sides don't play fair. Both sides want Ukraine in their sphere of influence, and both sides are willing to use deadly force to achieve this.

Do you have anything that would say Ukraine "Borderland" has ever been anything else?

Most people seem to want to say that Ukraine is inherently Khazaria, and therefor the master architect of all the world's problems today. That is a bit silly, but an easy belief to cling to.

There are, of course, several "crossroads" that have never quite been their own states, but tossed between competing regional powers, for instance Gaza. Perhaps it is a little scary that Gaza or Russia would stand up against invasive forces and related acts of resource management. They are acting locally, rather than projecting force dominance at the U. S. -- Mexico border.

It may be interesting to review that Kiev is the "first Russia" in light of the fact of the failed Khazarian apparatus being removed. On that basis, one could perhaps argue that east Ukraine is Russia. So far, I've seen nothing that says relinquished provinces like Ukraine or Estonia "belong" to Russia on principle, but, I can understand the difficulty when they become filled with hostile forces from thousands of miles away.