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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    This does not appear "related" to an international thread, yet, but get out your crystal ball.


    This is still affecting almost 34,000 "customers", which means a meter whether attached to a home or business. Some of that is a family of five people, some of them are duplicated in the businesses, others like me who at least do not live on the Plantation, more than twenty miles away.


    The power company first reported outages shortly after 8 p.m. Saturday...


    Condition of "no trespassing" sign:








    I was told the Sheriff had a prayer vigil with the suspects.


    On Monday afternoon, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas addressed the situation, saying the attack "appears to have been deliberate."


    Low wartime industry x threat to power grid = DHS goons?


    I would not be surprised to see an investigation with no motive or any leads, maybe with some political spin, most likely leading to the opportunism of some kind of build up of "national security".


    8 p. m. is not any kind of "surprise attack", this required bursts of multiple, probably high powered rounds, I am guessing .30-06 or so. I don't think a .223 would do it. The sites are not exactly isolated.

    The U.S. has roughly 55,000 substations. Earlier this year "60 Minutes" reported on how vulnerable they often are.

    "There's a very few number of substations you need to take out in the entire United States to knock out the entire grid," Jon Wellinghoff, former chairman of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, told "60 Minutes" correspondent BIll Whitaker.



    I'm pretty sure that what actually happened is already buried.

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    This 19 minute interview includes hilarious comments on Zelensky's corruption.

    Ukraine Drone Hits Russia base 150 Miles From Moscow

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    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    Ukraine wants this banned/removed from history,
    Where did you get that from? Any evidence? Mr Google doesn’t come up with anything...

    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    not because of the spiritual meaning itself (but there's an aspect of that too) but because it's Russian
    So therefore Ukraine must want to ban all Russian music.

    But that clearly isn’t the case: the music of Tchaikovsky, for example, seems to be still being enjoyed freely by Ukrainians.
    The United Ukrainian Ballet is currently in the middle of a tour performing Swan Lake, written by Tchaikovsky.
    There are recent videos of musicians playing music written by Tchaikovsky from bombed-out basements in Kharkiv.


    Putin denies the right of the country of Ukraine to exist. That invoked outrage and resulted in a swell of national pride and solidarity.
    As part of that need to assert their cultural identity, the government of Ukraine has voted in favour of banning some Russian music
    in media and public spaces.
    Just music created or performed by those who are or were Russian citizens after 1991.

    That’s it. Tchaikovsky and Shostakovich etc are safe.

    And it seems that the beloved and sublime “Hymn of the Cherubim” is safe too.

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    Absolute madness. These "leaders" in the west are simply evil.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/th...-across-border

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    https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/st...59117946621952


    https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/st...77854129082368


    https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/st...73959126376448


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    EU countries could not agree on a new package of financial assistance to Ukraine

    EU countries could not agree on a new package of financial assistance to Ukraine

    The Ministers of Economy and Finance of the European Union countries at a meeting on Tuesday did not reach an agreement on a new package of macro-financial credit support for Ukraine in the amount of up to 18 billion euros for 2023, the Finance Minister of the Czech Republic presiding over the Council of the EU Zbynek Stanyura said.

    “Unfortunately, we could not accept the package in its entirety,” he said during the open part of the meeting, which was broadcast on the Council’s website.

    As Politico reported, Hungary blocked the possibility of an agreement.

    Stanyura, on the other hand, stated that “the goal remains the same – to begin transferring (funds – ed.) to Ukraine in early January.”

    According to him, the EU will seek solutions to the current crisis.

    The European Commission proposed a new package of macro-financial credit support to Ukraine in the amount of up to 18 billion euros for the coming year on November 9. The EC then stated that the first funds would be transferred in January. The allocation of funds from this macro-financial assistance, however, required approval by EU countries and the European Parliament.

    At the end of November, the Union’s Parliament approved the EC’s proposed support package.

    The new macro-financial assistance, as envisioned by the EC, will take the form of preferential loans with maturities of up to 35 years. The first ten years are grace period, so the first loan repayments will begin in 2033.

    The European Commission previously stated that this financial assistance “will help cover a significant portion of Ukraine’s short-term financing needs for 2023, which, according to estimates by Ukrainian authorities and the International Monetary Fund, amount to 3 to 4 billion euros per month.”

    According to the EC, the assistance will be accompanied by reforms in the country aimed at further strengthening the rule of law, good governance, and measures to combat fraud and corruption.

    https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/st...53176408776704


    https://azgeopolitics.com/?p=3151

    Blinken: The US supports Ukraine’s return of lands lost since February

    Blinken: The US supports Ukraine’s return of lands lost since February.

    The US does not discuss “Ukraine without Ukraine,” according to the Secretary of State.

    The US is focused on militarily supporting Ukraine and assisting it in reclaiming the territories occupied by Russia since February 24. US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken made this statement on Monday at The Wall Street Journal WSJ CEO Summit conference.

    “Our efforts are focused on continuing to do what we are doing, which is to provide Ukraine with everything it needs for self-defense, to resist Russian aggression, to return the territories seized from it since February 24, and to provide economic and humanitarian support so that the country can resist what happens every day,” the diplomat said.

    During the discussion, the publication’s journalist asked the US Secretary of State what Ukraine’s ultimate goal is and whether it is possible to discuss a possible “breakthrough” of Ukrainian troops in Crimea. Blinken did not directly respond to the question, but did point out that the US does not discuss “Ukraine without Ukraine.”

    “This basically means that Ukrainians make decisions about where they want to go, when they want to get there, and how they want to get there, but with our support and the support of dozens of countries around the world,” the US Secretary of State added.
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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    spider sense

    We "know" from people like Scott Ritter, coronel Mac Gregor, etc. that ukros "intelligent" is run by USA first and NATO second...

    today nothing "escape" from satellites watch, ukros don't do anything without permission their masters.

    Every attempt in Russia territory will be result on ukros bravery/foolish/whatever...according to west prestitutes...

    therefore I smell a BIG rat... "the empire of lies" just want test Russia defenses and there were weak in this case...

    of all things an airfield with non less full with bombers with nuclear capabilities...do the math...

    We know from the beginning that ukros are dispensable, therefor this late attempt Serves wayyyy... another purpose...

    Sincerely I hope I'm wrong or just paranoid (our "normal" state this days...)
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    Serbia

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    You can read the OSCE 2015 war crimes report in the above picture.


    “2015 OSCE report
    The prisoners were electrocuted, beaten cruelly and for multiple
    days in a row with ditterent obiects (iron bars, baseball bats, sticks, bayonet knives
    rifle batons)
    Techniques widely used ov the Ukrainianarmed forces and secunh
    forces include waterboarding, strangling with a 'Banderist garrotte and
    other types of strangling
    In some cases prisoners, for the purposes of intimidation, were sent
    to minefields and run over with military vehicles, which led to their
    death.
    Other torture methods used by the Ukrainian armed forces and
    security forces include bone-crashing, stabbing and cutting with a knife
    branding with red:hot obiects, shooting different bodv parts with small
    arms.
    The prisoners taken captive by the Ukrainian armed forces and
    security forces are kept for days at freezing temperatures, with no access
    to food or medical assistance, and are often forced to take psychotropic
    substances that cause agony.
    An absolute majority
    of prisoners are put through
    mock firing
    squads and suffer death and rape threats to their families.
    Manv of those tortured are not members of the self-defense forces o
    the Donetsk and Luhansk People's”
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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    YouTube censors RT Balkans

    The account of RT’s newest outlet was blocked less than three weeks after it launched

    YouTube, the Google-owned video platform has blocked the channel of Belgrade-based RT Balkans. No explanation was given for Monday's move, which came about three weeks after the launch of the Serbian-language outlet in a region saturated by Western media coverage.

    RT Balkans reported the ban on Monday evening, pointing out that the most recent video posted on the channel was their interview with the Russian ambassador to Serbia, Aleksandr Botsan-Kharchenko.

    “Why are owners of the Western media space so afraid of RT’s Serbian-language reporting?” the outlet asked. “Their move mainly speaks about the lack of media freedom in the West, especially since the posts on your YouTube channel in no way violated the company’s rules of conduct.”

    The Serbian-language news site was launched on November 15, with plans to begin TV broadcasts by 2024. It was able to open a YouTube account and post content even though the Google-owned platform had previously banned all “Russian” media

    Enacted in March, the ban followed demands by the EU to block RT and Sputnik channels in the bloc’s territory. Speaking at the World Economic Forum in Davos in May, YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki explained the platform had created a new policy regarding “verified violent events,” which puts “denial or trivialization” of the conflict in Ukraine in the same category as denying the Holocaust.

    Meanwhile, YouTube continued to operate in Russia so that its citizens could have access to “independent news,” she said, adding that one of the lessons of the conflict in Ukraine is that “information can be weaponized.”

    RT sued YouTube in May. In October, an arbitration court in Moscow ruled that video platform must unblock RT's accounts or face a daily fine of 100,000 rubles ($1,694), doubling every week. The same court had frozen Google’s assets in Russia, valued at 500 million rubles ($8.4 million), to ensure the verdict could be enforced.




    https://www.rt.com/news/567727-rt-ba...utube-blocked/

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