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    The increasingly impressive Clare Daly, MEP, continues to speak her very clear mind on the floor of the EU parliament. I imagine few here would disagree with these sentiments:



    Source: https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status...23333286682624
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    https://www.rt.com/russia/564238-zap...plant-restart/

    Russia shares plans for Zaporozhye nuclear power plant restart

    Russian specialists are working to restart reactors No. 5 and 6 of the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant, a senior official at Russia’s state nuclear energy giant said on Friday.

    The process may require “about a week,” Renat Karchaa, an advisor to the head of Rosenergoatom, told TASS news agency.

    The preparations have been confirmed by city authorities in Energodar, where the site is located. The plant is “in working order and can generate power” after it is turned back on, local administration chief Aleksandr Volga said in an interview on Russian television on Friday.

    He explained that the city intends to use the plant as a source of thermal power during the heating season, and is rerouting the plumbing accordingly. A gas-fired power plant in Energodar is out of operation after being hit by Ukrainian artillery, regional officials earlier said.

    Vladimir Rogov, a senior Zaporozhye Region official, told the media there are problems that need to be fixed before the nuclear site can be operated again. He explained that most of the power lines connecting it to the grid were previously damaged and will have to be repaired.

    Only one transmission line currently remains intact, but it passes across the Dnepr River to Kiev-controlled territory, he explained, adding that the connection was currently being used to power the station itself.

    Kiev wants to make new Russian city ‘unlivable’ – top official
    Kiev wants to make new Russian city ‘unlivable’ – top official
    On Thursday, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered a change of ownership of the largest nuclear plant in Europe to reflect the new status of Zaporozhye Region as one of the four provinces newly incorporated into Russia.

    A new organization operating under Rosenergoatom has taken over the facility, with the staff offered new employment in the same positions.

    Kiev, which considers the region to be its own territory, has sent instructions to the plant's workers to ignore the change of ownership and take orders from the Ukrainian operator, Energoatom.

    The perilous situation was discussed this week by Rafael Grossi, director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency, and Ukraine’s President Vladimir Zelensky. The UN’s nuclear watchdog does not recognize Russia’s claim on the Zaporozhye plant.

    “The plant’s courageous staff deserve our sincere gratitude and respect for continuing to fulfill their vital tasks in unimaginably difficult conditions, with their workplace located in the middle of a war zone,” Grossi said. “There is a need for urgent action to make their jobs and lives easier, not the opposite”.

    Aleksandr Volga reported that out of 11,000 employees that the nuclear site normally requires to operate, some 7,800 have remained in their positions. He confirmed that the IAEA was scheduled to rotate its inspectors on Friday, with two people currently stationed leaving and four new specialists arriving in Energodar. The Russian official said he expected the newcomers to help with the safe restart of the reactors.

    READ MORE: Putin transfers Europe’s largest nuclear plant to Russian control
    Energodar has been under Russian control since March, but Ukrainian forces are within artillery striking distance. Moscow has repeatedly accused Kiev of endangering the Zaporozhye facility with its attacks on the city, while Ukraine has claimed Russian forces were responsible for the shellings.

    The IAEA fact-finding mission, which arrived in Energodar in early September, corroborated reports of damage to the station, but declined to assign blame.


    https://www.rt.com/russia/564119-put...nuclear-plant/

    Putin transfers Europe’s largest nuclear plant to Russian control

    President Vladimir Putin has issued an order placing the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant, Europe's largest, under Russian management. A presidential decree on the fate of the facility was published on Wednesday.

    The plant will be operated by a subsidiary of Russia’s state-owned nuclear power giant Rosatom. For now, it will continue to function under Ukrainian-issued licenses until Russian equivalents are obtained, according to the document.

    The move comes as Moscow finalizes the accession of four formerly Ukrainian regions – Zaporozhye, Kherson, as well as Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics – to Russia. The territories overwhelmingly backed a proposal to join Russia in referendums last month. The votes were firmly rejected by Kiev and its Western backers, who denounced them as “sham” votes.

    In recent weeks, Zaporozhye nuclear power plant has been subjected to repeated missile, artillery and drone attacks, attributed by the Russian military to Ukrainian forces, as well as targeted by saboteurs in apparent attempts to seize the facility from Russian forces. Kiev, along with multiple Western officials, however, has been blaming Moscow for shelling the nuclear facility it controls.

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    The Zaporozhye plant was seized by the Russian military early in the ongoing conflict. Until now, however, it has remained under Ukrainian management.

    Russia sent troops into Ukraine on February 24, citing Kiev’s failure to implement the Minsk agreements, designed to give the regions of Donetsk and Lugansk special status within the Ukrainian state. The protocols, brokered by Germany and France, were first signed in 2014. Former Ukrainian president Pyotr Poroshenko has since admitted that Kiev’s main goal was to use the ceasefire to buy time and “create powerful armed forces.”

    In February 2022, the Kremlin recognized the Donbass republics as independent states and demanded that Ukraine officially declare itself a neutral country that will never join any Western military bloc. Kiev insists the Russian offensive was completely unprovoked.
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    https://www.rt.com/russia/564236-dro...ort-explosion/

    Drone explodes at Russian military airport – local officials

    An explosion occurred at a military airbase in Kaluga region located southwest of the Russian capital when an unidentified drone hit the ground, local authorities said on Friday, adding that there have been no casualties or major damage.

    According to Kaluga’s Governor Vladislav Shapsha, a blast occurred at military airport ‘Shaikovka,’ with an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV), which “presumably flew from [this] side of the border,” hitting the ground in the area.

    “There are no casualties. The airfield infrastructure and equipment didn’t sustain any damage,” the official said, adding that there is no threat to the airport’s current operations while investigators are already looking into the incident.

    Shaikovka is located about 600 kilometers from the Russia-Ukraine border and 300 kilometers southwest of Moscow. Moreover, according to media reports, the facility is home to a regiment of Russian strategic supersonic bombers.

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    While Shapsha did not comment on who might be behind the intrusion, news outlet Mash described the incident at the base as a “diversion.” It claimed that the UAV with a grenade was launched Friday morning not far from the airbase.

    “[The drone] did not enter Russia from the territory of Ukraine. Its purpose was to destroy the airport’s runway,” it wrote, adding that the flight strip had been damaged but that it has already been repaired.

    Since the onset of Russia’s military campaign in late February, Ukraine has repeatedly used drones for military purposes. In late September, in one of the most notorious examples, a Ukrainian explosive-laden UAV attacked Zaporozhye nuclear power plant, though no damage was caused to its reactor.
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    Quote Posted by Chester (here)
    Quote Posted by Bob_2011 (here)
    Uncovered: Box of gold teeth ‘pulled from Ukrainians’ at Russian torture chamber

    What was the excuse for the Russians invading, Oh yea to de-Nazify Ukraine, hmm what does this (if its true) remind you of , yep !

    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-un...090645157.html
    When you look at your source and are well-informed of this sources track record for massive, intentional disinformation, then a discerning individual would have doubts about its validity and not post such crap.

    Third strike for me (ignore list addition completed).

    Folks, the feature's there for a reason. If everyone ignored the compromised and/or witting dis-info agents, they would get nothing but echo chamber responses. Beyond the compromised and/or witting dis-info agents stands plenty of space for intelligent debate as to this war, reasons each side my put forth in any attempt to justify the actions by their side of choice, but this can only be done if folks are honest and broadly informed. Those who only get their information from professional propagandists (on EITHER SIDE) should post elsewhere. This is a serious thread.
    Did you not see my bracketed (STATEMENT), maybe all that hair and your dark glasses are obscuring your eyes,

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    Starlink trouble reported in Ukraine

    Ukrainian soldiers say Elon Musk’s satellites stopped working during some battles with Russians

    Outages of the Starlink communications system have led to a “catastrophic” loss of communication between Ukrainian troops as they battled Russian forces, the Financial Times (FT) reported on Friday.

    The news triggered concerns that Elon Musk may have done something to the service in response to Ukrainian denunciations of his peace plan, but the SpaceX magnate called the newspaper's article “bad reporting.”

    Musk gave Ukraine thousands of Starlink terminals back in March, helping Kiev’s military to “operate drones, receive vital intelligence updates and communicate with each other in areas where there are no other secure networks,” as the FT described it.

    In recent weeks, as Ukrainian forces moved into territory previously controlled by Russian forces, the systems stopped working on multiple occasions. One senior Ukrainian official told the FT this led to a “catastrophic” loss of communication, including during “pitched battles.” Failures were “widespread” and “prompted panicked calls from soldiers to helplines,” said another official.

    Roman Sinitsin, who runs a nonprofit that directs Starlinks to the Ukrainian military, said the problem may have been due to Musk’s SpaceX having a block on the signal in Russian-held areas.

    “It is absolutely clear to me that this is being done by representatives of Starlink to prevent the usage of their technology by Russian occupation forces,” Sinitsin told the FT, urging SpaceX to coordinate more closely with the Ukrainian military.

    continue: https://www.rt.com/russia/564263-sta...e-outage-musk/

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    A concise 20 minute interview by Judge Napolitano with Scott Ritter. (Ritter is a regular guest of his, and Napolitan's interviews are always concise. )

    What interested me here was Ritter's observation and informed opinion about the presence of US Special Forces as boots on the ground in Ukraine, barely any secret now. "Hundreds of Americans rotating in and out of Ukraine", he states. He explains they'd be in civilian clothes, not uniformed (as the mercenaries are, which is a different thing).

    He also states, and many other analysts agree, that NATO's goal here is not to save Ukraine, or to win back territory (including even Crimea), but to sacrifice Ukraine using it as a means to try to bleed Russia dry.


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    Lavrov explains why Russia sees Ukraine as a threat

    President Zelensky did ask NATO for a preemptive nuclear strike, despite claims to the contrary, the Russian foreign minister said

    A call by Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky for NATO members to deploy nuclear weapons against Russia is a reminder of why Moscow launched military action against his country, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has said.

    “Yesterday, Zelensky called on his Western masters to deliver a preemptive nuclear strike on Russia,” Moscow’s top diplomat stated during a media conference on Wednesday.

    In doing so, the Ukrainian leader “showed to the entire world the latest proof of the threats that come from the Kiev regime.” Lavrov said Russia’s special military operation had been launched to neutralize those threats.

    He dismissed as “laughable” an attempt to downplay Zelensky’s words made by his press secretary, Sergey Nikoforov.

    “We all remember how [Zelensky] declared in January Ukraine’s intention to acquire nuclear weapons. Apparently, this idea has long been stuck in his mind,” the Russian minister said.

    On Thursday, Zelensky told the Australian Lowy Institute that NATO must carry out preemptive strikes against Russia so that it “knows what to expect” if it uses its nuclear arsenal. He claimed that such action would “eliminate the possibility of Russia using nuclear weapons,” before recalling how he urged other nations to preemptively punish Russia before it launched its military action against his country.

    “I once again appeal to the international community, as it was before February 24: Preemptive strikes so that [the Russians] know what will happen to them if they use it, and not the other way around,” he said.

    His spokesman then claimed that people interpreting Zelensky’s words as a call for a preemptive nuclear strike were wrong, and that Ukraine would never use such rhetoric.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/564206-lav...mptive-strike/

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    https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/st...04081888661505


    Today,

    https://www.rt.com/russia/564265-put...ky-g20-summit/

    Putin and Zelensky to attend G20 – Indonesia

    Russian President Vladimir Putin and his Ukrainian counterpart, Vladimir Zelensky, will both travel to Bali in November for the G20 summit, an Indonesian diplomat has told UAE's The National newspaper.

    If true, the summit will be the first event attended by both leaders since Russia’s military operation in Ukraine began.

    “Both have agreed [to attend],” Indonesia’s ambassador to the United Arab Emirates, Husain Bagis, told The National on Friday.

    He conceded that “the situation isn’t easy because of the Ukraine-Russia war,” and said that his government is already planning how to manage the arrival of the two leaders. “We are deciding which hotels to put them up in – one for Mr. Putin and one for Mr. Zelensky,” he said.

    Biden responds to Putin meeting speculation
    Biden responds to Putin meeting speculation
    The Kremlin confirmed in June that Putin would attend the summit, although spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Friday that the format of Putin’s participation “is still not defined.” Kiev stated in August that Zelensky “believes that he should be on the territory of Ukraine,” but would “think about” making the trip if Putin were to attend in person.

    Today his press secretary, Sergey Nikiforov, in a comment to Ukrainian media, denied the information that Zelensky had decided to visit the G20 summit.

    US President Joe Biden and a number of other Western leaders urged Indonesian President Joko Widodo not to invite Putin to the summit in Bali. However, Widodo resisted the pressure campaign and invited the Russian leader as planned. With Widodo having met both Zelensky and Putin earlier this summer in a bid to “invite the two leaders to open dialogue and stop the war,” Bagis told The National that Indonesia aims “to make the G20 a platform for peace, not conflict.”

    Biden also appears to have softened his exclusionary stance toward Putin, telling reporters on Thursday that it “remains to be seen” whether he would meet the Russian president on the sidelines of the summit. The State Department quickly stepped in to say that in the view of the entire government, “it cannot be business as usual when it comes to Russia.”

    Although Ukraine is not one of the world’s 20 largest economies, Zelensky was invited to Bali as a guest.
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    St. Petersburg cancels New Year, Christmas festivities to aid special military operation

    It is reported that all available funds will be channeled into a special Saint Petersburg account stipulating extra outfit and gear for volunteers

    MOSCOW, October 7. /TASS/. Traditional Christmas and New Year celebrations in Saint Petersburg will be canceled and all previously allocated money for the festivities will be channeled to finance volunteers and mobilized troops of the special military operation in Ukraine, the municipal authorities said in a statement on Friday.

    "During a session with Governor Alexander Beglov with members of the municipal administration it was decided to cancel previously scheduled events dedicated to New Year festivities," the statement reads.

    "All available funds will be channeled into a special Saint Petersburg [account] stipulating extra outfit and gear for volunteers and mobilized citizens," Beglov said.

    It was previously noted that all mobilized people in Saint Petersburg would be paid a bonus of 100,000 rubles (over $1,600), while volunteers would get 300,000 rubles in bonuses (over $4,800).

    Mayor of the Russian city of Nizhny Novgorod Yury Shalabayev also stated that previously scheduled New Year and Christmas celebrations, including music concerts and festivities, would be cancelled and all previously allocated financial means would be channeled to aid the families of mobilized Russian nationals.

    "I have received numerous questions via social websites from our citizens about planned mass festivities, concerts and fireworks to mark the [upcoming] New Year. My response is no, although we planned them initially," he said.

    "However, we will still carry on with New Year celebrations for children and festive events in schools and kindergartens," the mayor of Nizhny Novgorod added.

    On September 21, President Vladimir Putin declared a partial mobilization in Russia. Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu clarified that 300,000 reservists would be called up, who would undergo training before being sent to the special military operation zone.

    From September 23 to September 27, the DPR and the LPR as well as the Kherson and the Zaporozhye Regions held referendums where the majority of voters opted to join Russia.

    On September 30, Russian President Vladimir Putin and the heads of the four regions signed treaties on their accession to Russia.

    On October 5, President Putin signed laws on ratifying the accession of the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics (DPR and LPR) as well as of the Zaporozhye and Kherson Regions to Russia following a granted approval from both houses of the Russian parliament - the State Duma and the Federation Council.
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    *elinsky says NATO should use nuclear weapons on Russia first, as a deterrent to their using nuclear weapons. At the same time he is nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize



    ‘We are aware this is a break with procedure’: Despite missed deadline, European leaders push for Zelensky to receive Nobel Peace Prize
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    For many reasons, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky would seemingly be a natural candidate for this year’s Nobel Peace Prize. He has not only rallied his people as Russia wages war against his country, but he has also sought out global leaders to support Ukraine during this darkest of times.

    There’s just one problem: His efforts have largely come past the Nobel deadline of Jan. 31.

    Now, a group of European leaders is petitioning the Nobel Prize committee, asking it to reconsider the deadline and extend it through March 31 so that Zelensky and the Ukrainian people can be nominated for the honor.

    “Although we are aware this is a break with procedure, we do believe that this break is justified by the current unprecedented situation,” said the leaders in their letter, which was sent earlier this month. “It is our democratic duty to stand up to authoritarianism and to support a people fighting for democracy and their right to self-government.”

    More than 35 leaders signed the letter, including prominent officials from the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, Romania, Sweden and Slovakia.

    Nobel officials, based in Norway, didn’t respond to a MarketWatch request for comment about the situation.

    Certainly, Zelensky fits the profile of past recipients of the Peace Prize, including South Africa’s Nelson Mandela, who led his country out of apartheid, and Myanmar politician and diplomat Aung San Suu Kyi, who has fought for democracy and human rights in her nation.

    Among the American recipients of the honor are former Presidents Barack Obama (2009) and Jimmy Carter (2002) and former Vice President Al Gore (2007).

    There are other candidates who could be considered for this year’s honor, of course. One shortlist mentioned such possibilities as Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya, a human-rights activist in Belarus, and Nataša Kandić, a Serbian political writer and founder of the Humanitarian Law Center.

    Still, the leaders behind the recent Nobel petition say that Zelensky and the Ukrainian people stand apart at this moment. And that recognizing them would send an important message to the world.

    “The veneer of civilization is paper-thin, we are its guardians and we can never rest,” they wrote.

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    Ah, the Nobel Peace Prize, the ultimate honour conferred on individuals who further the cause of peace for humanity, calls for nuclear pre-emptive strikes on Moscow clearly demonstrates just how much Zelensky loves the cause of peace. Just like a previous peace prize winner, Obama who so tirelessly worked toward peace in the world, Zelensky deserves the European society's highest acclaim for his efforts that will result in a peace that you will enjoy, or else! The term 'Phyric Victory' has never been more aptly applied in the case of NATO & the USA deep state's objectives for Ukraine.
    Forgive my heavy handed irony, but really, the 'Peace Prize' for Zelensky? They really do think that the people of the world are stupid - what a blatantly hypocritical gesture eh?

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    Mike,
    what a strong sobering comment about the glaring hypocrisy we all live under. How can the world tolerate this, and yet it seems to do so .
    well done sir
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    Quote Posted by Justplain (here)
    Corbett Report:. 'Putin has accomplished everything he set out to prevent'-

    https://corbettreport.substack.com/p...ates-from#play
    Either Waggaman is one of the CIA's many disinfo hacks. Or a dickhead. Neither is mutually exclusive

    Within Waggaman's own source, Russian servicemen who abandon their post during mobilization/combat get 10 years

    However, Waggaman turns that upside-down. Going AWOL in combat "means attempting to avoid mandatory vaccination" in his head

    Then there's his make-believe hump about Russian troops getting jabbed by force

    If you read this guy, you'd think Russia was lining blindfolded prisoners along a wall and shooting them with Sputnik V

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    US, Germany, New Zealand, Canada carry out the same kinda vaccination program as Russia. ie., If you don't get the injection, you get the rejection! Basically, no job. Dismissal from service

    Oh yeah, AstraZeneca & Sputnik V; some fatal differences

    * AstraZeneca is an adenovirus vax vector-based with chimpanzee DNA
    * Sputnik V is an adenovirus vax vector-based with human DNA

    But I'm sure Waggaman & AstraZeneca would say there's no monkey business going on

    But it's in Waggaman's nasty pseudonym--Edward Slavsquat--where we see a real indication of what he really thinks of the Slavic-Russian world

    But but but he's married to a Russian?! So damn what? Slave trader Zephaniah Kingsley married black women, had black concubines- but still enslaved and enriched himself off Afro/Caribbeans. Zelensky is Jewish & Ukrainian, and yet he armed neo-Nazi psychopaths to mass-kill Russo-Ukrainians, for four years and counting
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    So take Waggaman's words with a nanoscopic grain of swamp salt

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    Well, the crimean bridge just exploded.



    There are twits saying that it has become a reason for declaring open war. Still have to see about it.

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    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)
    *elinsky says NATO should use nuclear weapons on Russia first, as a deterrent to their using nuclear weapons. At the same time he is nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize
    duh

    this 1984 Orwell Quote springs to mind...

    “War is peace.
    Freedom is slavery.
    Ignorance is strength.”

    I wonder if the promise of a Nobel Peace Prize was one of the carrots dangled before Zelensky when Boris Johnson, then the British PM, was deployed to stop him agreeing to Peace Talks with Russia early into the Special Military Operation..?

    That and some thinly veiled threats I expect ... as much as Zelensky is the perfect WEF and Deep State puppet endlessly parading around in his khaki green teashirt... it has to be a bit of a job to keep him going and keep him on task as times goes on...

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    Quote Posted by I am B (here)
    Well, the crimean bridge just exploded.
    Three short vids of it:


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/KRnwdWEdsx3f



    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/WFdMiE9xmUBZ



    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/BLWCVHv5XGjw
    Normal..!

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