WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

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Two part video dubbed in English, RU Mod briefing Aug 12

https://twitter.com/mdfzeh/status/1558073315897610240

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https://twitter.com/TobiAyodele/stat...54921118908416

https://twitter.com/TobiAyodele/stat...54933341028352

https://twitter.com/TobiAyodele/stat...54937493262336

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Gorlovka

https://twitter.com/TobiAyodele/stat...99789404839937

The Stirol chemical plant has been a target for years,
2014,

https://twitter.com/Catherina_News/s...96276770852864

https://twitter.com/alexey_lyashko/s...83164592037888

https://twitter.com/Gaileis/status/498823654394703872

Feb 18 2022
https://twitter.com/Viatcheslavsos3/...69332743344128

[9ideon]

It is starting to look like that Zaporozhye Nuclear Power Plant thing has been well orchestrated by Western Intelligence for a purpose with two possible outcomes.

1-) The Russians are Forced to accept a De-Militarized Zone, which will ensure UN-Troops in Ukraine.

2-) Russia Refuses the De-Militarized Zone.


In the case of that De-Militarized zone Russia will delay the inevitable, if Ukraine will be allowed to strengthen their Military again, now backed and as part of NATO, this will happen without doubt, the West will come for Russia, no question anymore, they're out for the destruction of at least NK, Iran, China and Russia, they will fatten up and come.

In case of нет, I feel that, now that Russia has been deemed a Terrorist Nation by, uhhm, whateverland, they (West) could have their excuse to declare war.

Russia is basically setup in a Sales trap. It is made to believe (will not work) it has to make either one of those choices.

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https://twitter.com/TobiAyodele/stat...88812189962242

https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/stat...88973616046080

https://twitter.com/SoizaDavid/statu...83483804639233

https://news.err.ee/1608683440/minis...efense-systems

Minister: Estonia, Finland to integrate coastal missile defense systems

"We need to integrate our coastal defenses. The flight range of Estonian and Finnish missiles is greater than the width of the Gulf of Finland. This means that we can connect our missile defenses and share all our information with each other," Pevkur (Reform) said in an interview during a working visit to Finland.

Estonia will buy Israeli Blue Spear land-to-sea missiles this autumn, which have a range of 290 kilometers. Finland's MTO 85M missiles have a range of over 100 kilometers.

At the Gulf of Finland's narrowest point, there are 52 kilometers of sea between the two countries and 120km at its widest.

Pevkur said the integration of missile defense systems will make it possible to close the Gulf of Finland to Russian warships.

"The Baltic Sea will be NATO's internal sea when Finland and Sweden have joined NATO. Compared with what it is today, the situation is changing," he said.

The minister also discussed securing airspace. It has been agreed upon by NATO that the Allies will secure the whole Baltic Sea region.

"For me, this is one airspace. Everyone must understand that Norway, Finland, the Baltics and other countries form NATO's eastern flank. We are not only protecting Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania or other eastern NATO countries. When we talk about NATO, the most important thing is Article 5: one for all and all for one," he said

"Finnish airspace cannot be protected if Estonian airspace is not protected at the same time, and vice versa. Fighter jets cross the 80-kilometer-wide Gulf of Finland in minutes."

Iltaleht asked if the Americans will send F-35 fighter jets to Estonia and Pevkur said the discussions about the size of the U.S.'s presence is currently being discussed.

The Estonian and Finnish defense ministers met earlier this week in Helsinki.

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Just in re the Zaporozhye

https://twitter.com/TobiAyodele/stat...09641187508227

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https://twitter.com/DailyWorld24/sta...68567920316422

https://twitter.com/snekotron/status...52301541150721

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https://twitter.com/TobiAyodele/stat...83920780034048

https://twitter.com/TobiAyodele/stat...83929592193025

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https://twitter.com/MoonofA/status/1...tiQOAOlAcoJCEQ

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/0...ains-some.html

The Mystic Ukrainian Kherson Offensive Did Not And Will Not Happen At All

August 12, 2022

There has been much talk in 'western' media about a Ukrainian offensive in the southern Kherson region. However most of the claims made about it seem to be divorced from the observable realities on the ground. The detailed look below provides that there is no such offensive and that there is little chance that there will ever be one.

The purported offensive has for months been a core talking point:

Ukraine Battle Expands as Kyiv Launches Counteroffensive - New York Times - May 29, 2022
Ukraine Regains Some Territory in Counter-Offensive in Kherson Area - Defence Ministry - Reuters - Jun 9, 2022
Near Kherson, Ukrainians regain territory in major counteroffensive - Washington Post - Jun 29, 2022
Ukraine prepares a counter-offensive to retake Kherson province - Economist - Jul 3, 2022
Kherson cut off: Ukrainian counter-offensive gaining momentum in southern city - Fox News - Jul 29, 2022
Lets look at the map of the Kherson area and how it has changed over time. LiveUAmap, the source used here for these maps, is know to be more in favor of Ukrainian claims than Russian ones. The red parts are held by Russian forces.

This is the Kherson area as depicted on May 13, 2022:

The rest here,

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/0...ains-some.html

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https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1558114116220354561

[Spiral]

This utterly fails to explain how an old soviet mig can fire a current NATO missile, at the very least US technicians have been very busy (ie on the ground in the Ukraine) modding the heck out of whatever it is they still have that is airworthy.



Why some of these embedd & others don't is a mystery

[Kryztian]

EU considering round 7 of sanctions and may stop issuing travel visas to Russians. This would have a devastating effect on Greece, Spain, Italy and other travel destinations.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=yj0pZ8pX27Q

When hate and fear and anger start governing policy then it can lead to all sorts of utterly disatrous outcomes, and we have already seen some of them, and there is always the risk that things could get far worse. - Alexander Mercouris

[ExomatrixTV]

• CIA spy analyzes Vladimir Putin and the War in Ukraine:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=t5HDD6e7mn4

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Interesting what US forces have
Air Force Releases List Of What’s In Its Famous ‘Petting Zoo’ Threat Training Facility
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...ining-facility

The Last Time The United States Got Its Hands On A Fleet Of MiG-29 Fighters
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...ig-29-fighters

New Evidence Of AGM-88 Anti-Radiation Missile Use By Ukraine Emerges
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...ukraine-emerge

How Ukraine Could’ve Quickly Put AGM-88 Anti-Radiation Missiles To Use
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...missiles-to-us

After An Abysmal Start, Here Is How Russia’s Application Of Airpower In Ukraine Could Evolve
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...e-could-evolve

[shaberon]

That is depressing about Latvia. I used to admire the Baltic States for being the only part of Europe not enslaved by conquistadors and Teutonics. I suppose politics accomplished where religion failed: turned it to trash just the same.


Is there anything I can vote on yet? Like De-NATOification? I like that one. Where do you sign up or wholeheartedly commit the rest of your life without a second thought?




Just to chime in, here are a few reactions about whatever the UK did to Graham Phillips for his Ukraine reporting:



It is clearly very wrong what our government is doing to him. But then this government is now more corrupt than it has ever been. And at one point our country was run by a paedophile. The English government, and in fact all governments within the British Isles have been compromised for a very long time, but this war has truly shone a spotlight on the evil and corruption of our leadership. They are the most despicable form of cockroach that exist on this earth. They have no dignity, no morality and no shame. They are truly the servants of their master,satan. Graham has clearly done nothing wrong. He has reported the facts as they are, but this is a sin to the West. One cannot tell the truth and shame the devil without consequence. As you have said in your comment, he will likely have to claim asylum in Russia and say goodbye to his family, just so he can stay alive and stay out of prison. This is unreal. I am disgusted by the actions of our leaders. Unfortunately, the magna carta has no real authority anymore. Unlike the US constition which is taught to all children in the USA, kids in the UK can go throughout their schooling careers without learning more than the fact it exists. I learned nothing about it at school except the very basics. The content was never discussed. And so the majority have no idea what their rights even are. It is a shambles. A complete disgrace. But this is what they planned, and it’s working beautifully!



or:



If I had to choose between UK and Russia, I would select Russia.

We have to denazify UK. And denazify EU.



or:

You have just now realised that what 300 years of social destruction, brutality and marginalisation the British establishment have invoked on all Scotland Ireland and wales. I certainly have no wish to be though of as british, and have never been proud of said deceit brutality and marginalisation of my forefathers or my extended family and nation even today.



I am not sure what political party that represents--I don't think it is one. Blustering about the Magna Carta has got them thinking that maybe Americans still have one up on them. Not really. Most Americans think they have Constitutional rights, which they don't. The Constitution applies to the government, not a human being.


Why in the world would people worship countries without having any idea what a Constitution is??

Oh, King James. He wrote the Bible. Someone told me so.



The weakness of Pisky apparently was that the locals left years ago and it was just a fortress. That is why it tasted TOS-1A. This is along the south face of Avdivka which is the local highest point, which makes it a particularly important location.


The sensible thing to do is surrender Avdivka, but that assumes you want to live. Can't you just sense the tentacles twitching in anticipation of the U. S. midterm elections, Trump raid and all?


While we have recently mentioned that the U. S. and Russia both arose out of basically brand new legal systems, on the much older side there were the Franks (free persons) and Slavs (slaves). If you have heard of the Divine Right of Kings, some believe that Merovech, king of the Salian Franks, is the bloodline of Jesus and Mary Magdaleine and that this may be important. I am not sure. This tribe is not known to have existed prior to ca. year 200, and then you get the characters of Merovech and Clovis. And especially from the latter, you got a gift of the entire future based on another system, Salic Law, which came up because Clovis:


...appointed four commissioners to research customary law that, until the publication of the Salic Law, had been recorded only in the minds of designated elders, who would meet in council when their knowledge was required. Transmission was entirely oral. Salic Law therefore reflects ancient usages and practices. In order to govern more effectively, it was desirable for monarchs and their administrations to have a written code.



It is considered the oldest writing of Old Dutch. And, of course, keeping with the theme of divinity they had in mind:



The best-known tenet of the old law is the principle of exclusion of women from inheritance of thrones, fiefs and other property.


And it more or less has remained in place as Statutory Law, which, as an American, I am supposed to be free of:


Salic law provided written codification of both civil law, such as the statutes governing inheritance, and criminal law, such as the punishment for murder. Although it was originally intended as the law of the Franks, it has had a formative influence on the tradition of statute law that extended to modern history in much of Europe...

The criminal laws established damages to be paid and fines levied in recompense for injuries to persons and damage to goods, theft, and unprovoked insults. One-third of the fine paid court costs. Judicial interpretation was by a jury of peers.

The civil law establishes that an individual person is legally unprotected if he or she does not belong to a family.




So, we have this law, in the hands of Oligarchy, for almost the entire period of observable history--or at least the latter since ca. 800. I am just not aware of anything in Europe which may have changed it significantly. Kingdoms or republics do not matter much if they are temporary faces of an ongoing bulk.


That is true that it is nearly impossible to attack a nuclear reactor with weapons. However if you mess with the power output or cooling system it is a different story.

In the most recent version of New England justice, a Ukrainian motorist was acquitted of seven counts of negligent homicide from running over a motorcycle convoy while high on fentanyl, cocaine, and heroin. I am not sure how you even survive that. Somehow the defense's case that the motorcycle leader was actually drunk and caused the whole thing by sliding into the guy's car must have been screamingly obvious according to all the available evidence.


I have not noticed any particular defenses about the biolabs, and so forth, yet. Just a ball of cobwebs being flown to Taiwan.

I did see the suggestion that, if it is true that western Big Pharma and Big Ag bought so many millions hectares from Ukraine, and, if it turns out that the signing government was invalid, then the contracts are worthless and the companies lose everything.


I have no idea if the allegations are true. As long as it is not actually a state of War, then, there is the possibility that the Ukrainian regime could remain intact. We see how much it matters to have an opinion about the status of merceneries; things are already handled a certain way. Nothing will come out of it until Ukraine accepts Russia's terms, whatever those turn out to be.

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[ExomatrixTV]

• Ukrainians Fleeing To Russian-Held Territory In Droves:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=toP9WXJ5vHw

[9ideon]

Amnesty is re-assessing that report on Ukraine, it's getting so tiresome these "People".

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[TargeT]

so... energy leeches... "vampires"......... what are you giving up by paying attention to this (to me) clear distraction, are you the disred outcome or do you realize the situation for what it is....

I've found humanity to be ridiculously predictive (mostly due to my inteligence community work mixed with my time with masonry)

I could expand but I don't even know if it's helpful, humans are easily guidable, is that what's happening now (again).

be hontest with yourself, how much time have you spent on exttremely complex topics like this that have almost no datapoints that validate the original "narative"... have we willingly done this to ourselves?

I'm not sure anymore

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Posted by 9ideon (here)
Amnesty is re-assessing that report on Ukraine, it's getting so tiresome these "People".

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That is so bad it's hilarious, they expect anyone commenting on what's happening there to check & double check with people who couldn't lie straight in bed, then finish with a well known & utterly debunked psy-op, namely the made up ( staged) events in Bucha.

There are endless vids of civilians saying exactly what amnesty reported, also the Nazis posted plenty of self incriminating evidence, and now they are all ratting each other out in detention, or rather they were before the Ukrainans killed them (their own people) in a rocket attack using US equipment & satellite intel.