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    I've the same issue here with being blocked, with the exact same message Masha. I know other Europe based moderators appear to be experiencing the same.

    I believe the issue may be a Europe wide blockade of Sputnik via any platform. I was having issues with accessing http://kremlin.ru/ although the problem there was I think a work-based bandwidth issue. That said, just now, it loaded but only the Russian language version.
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    Another update here from Eva Bartlett

    Source link: https://twitter.com/EvaKBartlett/sta...19664816857090



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    The bridge in Kursk repaired in 3 days

    Source link: https://twitter.com/carla_venezia/st...66650710757376

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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    A brief SitRep from The Saker, this time written by Andrei (The Saker) himself.
    We have a grind in the Ukraine. It looks like slow and methodical progress is being made but I don’t think this is necessarily bad, except for our own peace of mind. Where most of the non-kinetic work is being done is in restoring and normalizing smaller towns and cities that the Russians liberate.

    What is being reported is that Russian managers are now routinely being brought on site of these towns and cities to establish order and normal civilian function. They restore Russian Television, and Internet, get cleaning up done, start rebuilding, demine, and provide emergency food stocks for normal life to continue.

    There are rumors all over the netisphere that the status of Donesk and Lugansk will soon more formally change to Russian influence. We cannot speculate and will have to wait to see but what is clear is the de-nazification is in full progress.

    Slow and methodical? But is it so? Take a look at today’s Russian Mod report and the sheer size of a complete demilitarization:
    https://t.me/mod_russia_en/1329

    And then take a look at the latest map from Riafan.ru. We may have to say slow and methodical but another descriptor comes to mind: Slow, Methodical and Total.



    I am reminded of a descriptor that Andrei Martyanov uses. He explains that the Russian way of warfare is netcentric where every moving part or incoming or outgoing is immediately visible to the complete planning network. As such, it can adapt as it goes. We do not have the luxury of this view.

    Azovstal: There are reports (both from a LDNR commander and some panicked Ukiraine commander) that there has been a breakthrough into Azovstal. The leader of “Azov” said that the troops of Russia and the DPR broke through to “Azovstal” yesterday, there are heavy battles, and the situation is critical:

    Here is the panicked Azov Commander:
    https://t.me/intelslava/27893

    Azovstal is still being fiercely missiled and bombed, yet during daytime, humanitarian corridors are open. The siege (where no fly can enter or leave – Putin), has now reached deathly critical mass for whoever or whatever is hiding below. The militants are offering to exchange civilians for food and medicine and nobody will be allowed to leave, except in exchange.
    “Vyacheslav Volodin: 66.6 kg for a person’s life. As it became known, the militants in Azovstal offered to exchange civilians who were there for food and medicine. The indicated terms of the deal are fifteen hostages per ton of food, as well as medicines.”
    What will those who defended these freaks say now?

    Finally, it appears that the Russian MoD has decided that any US/NATO aircraft which delivers weapons to the Ukraine will be considered as a “legitimate target” by the Russian military. We need more information here.

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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    I read somewhere that an Azovstal electrician revealed the entry point to the tunnels under the plant and that Russian fores are now fighting in the tunnels

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    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    Also we need to remember that the traders and nomads referred to as the Khazarians/Khazars adopted Judaism - they do not seem to have been of any historically recorded or recognised semitic tribe associated with the origin of the faith in the lands around Palestine/middle-east.

    Correct.

    This is an offshoot of how civilization or peace ever worked at all along the Silk Road, which Khazaria was a pretty significant northwestern attachment to. In most places, there has been a desire to identify "people of the Book", which is sort of like Masonry, i. e. not saying you have to be Christian or Jewish or whatever, but you have to be "something" which has a recognized writing that other people can see and assess for themselves.

    And so--I believe it was in the 800s--the Emperor of Khazaria was interested in becoming a standard, accepted part of the Silk Road. But there was no religion. So he was actually halfway intelligent and invited representatives of religions to try to promote their Book. And when this happened:

    No Orthodox priest was present.

    There was a Latin priest, a Rabbi, and an Islamic cleric. The result was a bit like dealing with Constantine. The Emperor could not really tell the differences. And in this case he accepted Judaism out of respect for it being the oldest.


    British Israelism is though to be reflected from a 1590 Huguenot book. This is the idea that the British, or Celts, etc., are descended from the Ten Lost Tribes. It may be said for example that the native Welsh name, Cymry, means the Greek word Cimmeria, part of Asia Minor, populated by the descendants of Biblical Gomer. This is something very ad hoc and artificial, yet taken very seriously.

    I still do not see how it would equate to Russian racism, but, it seems fairly racist to start with, as well as misleading. The original Israelis are more likely the Mountain Jews of Iran.

    Some people have said that a Khazarian memory emigrated across Poland and so forth and was eventually part of English Jewry, but that may be jumping to conclusions. It will make you say the Talmud plotted three modern world wars during the 600s. I am not sure there is anything that concrete.

    I suspect more of the truth is along the lines of material and financial enterprises mostly on the illegal side which the Bank of England has been hosting for three hundred years, and they really don't want their stuff messed with. So they have this whining and moaning contest. What a naive wunch of bankers.

    Exactly what Khazaria or Venice had to do with King John expelling the Jews from England in the 1300s might help explain.

    It is interesting and at the same time, one should not let it slip for a moment about the Protestants who are new-ish during the start of colonialism, how much it suddenly affects things, and leads to something which I would view as more influential, i. e. Pilgrims' Society.

    If they came up with some kind of extremism from history as perceived in their Bible, then I can imagine it would have been pretty easy to hate "ancient rivals". If someone were to try to argue that it was a Jewish Talmudic thing, I think it would be difficult to show how that seeped in to the English Protestant-or-Catholic turbulence that was going on. I don't think it could have influenced many non-Jews even accidentally or subconsciously for a long time.

    But if it was that simple, if they wrote something in the 600s for a perpetual future of revenge and a new empire, I wouldn't really even blame anyone for that, but, simply ask to be open about it, and not, for example, assume that you get leeching tax benefits and legal favoritism in governments of people that are not in your sphere.

    I doubt it is quite that simple, and, I doubt they mentally influenced many non-Jews until perhaps later, but it is possible that Christian views on Judaic ancestry have something to do with the spite.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    The indicated terms of the deal are fifteen hostages per ton of food...


    My, my.

    What do you make of that equation?

    Let's say you have at least around a 1,000 fighters. How far will a ton actually get you? A step or two? Do you have that many "fifteen people" that you can supply yourself for a month or something?? What will this accomplish? I'm hungry.

    Mutiny with not that many good hiding spots? Maybe you can steal the key while the guy's asleep. This stuff's almost a soap opera.

    Remember, the Russian court is your only friend. If you go to the Baby Twins, you will surely be executed. Ever seen Faces of Death, Mr. commander sir thing? Who's next, are you trying to play musical chairs?

    You are worth your weight in food to the cannibals. Today's bones are tomorrow's flour. That's what I'll be doing with mine when I'm done using them.


    It all sounds really dangerous, and, it would be nice if someone would quit building hell on earth.

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    Moldova refusing to provide military aid to Kiev, along with it seems Georgia:

    Source: https://twitter.com/carla_venezia/st...06701776863233

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    Quote Posted by Gwin Ru (here)
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    From what has been said on the English language Russian Telegram channels I have had the sense that the Poles were in on this from the start, there has been no sabre rattling about the Polish military build up.

    If there wasn't an under the table agreement then it must have been exactly as the Kremlin had foreseen in their plans, which are obviously both short & long term. The problem for the future being Ukraine as a new & somewhat artificial country, with a manufactured language (they got linguists in the the late 19th C to de-russify it) which is so weak & open to corruption by big western crime families.

    Who is going to be left to pay the US's "lend lease" deal in the new Ukraine when all this is over ?

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    https://www.ukcolumn.org/ukcolumn-ne...s-6th-may-2022
    Todays UK column news was brilliant, analysing fake propaganda on Ukraine, ridiculous journalism, weaponry, finances et al. Clarifying pools of muddied media waters.
    Nazi history against Donbass etc etc
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    Here is just a quick glimpse from general information about how or why there is a NATO aggression.



    One of the main participants in creating the U. N. Charter was the pro-Soviet Alger Hiss:

    Hiss served as executive secretary of the Dumbarton Oaks Conference, which drew up plans for the future United Nations.


    For the U. N.:


    Franklin D. Roosevelt's original idea was designed to encompass American global power.

    "Stalin dropped opposition to the American version of the veto with a wave of his hand, dismissing it as an insignificant matter.... He was quite prepared to sacrifice any independent stake in the construction of the UN, clinging to the belief that veto powers would neutralize any danger from it.


    The relationship is such that:


    A few years later, Schlesinger documents, at a dinner with Rockefeller, Dulles said: "I owe you an apology. If you fellows hadn't done it, we might never have had NATO."


    This is because Rockefeller was bringing "Nazi Argentina" into the fold via Dumbarton Oaks:


    Schlesinger noted that although Nelson Rockefeller did not have an official role in the conference, he asked the FBI that he would be the one who passed reports to Stettinius. The FBI indeed passed all reports to Rockefeller. Schlesinger also explains how the UN logo was designed in a way to exclude Argentina for its friendship with Nazi Germany. Rockefeller insisted that Argentina, despite its pro-fascist government, must be allowed to join the UN. Rockefeller had the Latin American delegations on his side, a relationship that angered Nicolo Tucci, the head of the Bureau of Latin American Research in the US State Department, who resigned, declaring that ‘my bureau was supposed to undo the Nazi and Fascist propaganda in South America but Rockefeller is inviting the worst fascists and Nazis to Washington.

    While Washington was aiming at the creation of a world body, Rockefeller was pressuring the conference to accept the Chapultepec Pact:


    Therefore, the conference adopted a formal resolution called the Act of Chapultepec which proclaimed the principle of collective self-defense through regional pacts. This policy was adopted by the United Nations and Article 51 of the UN charter, which authorized regional security arrangements.



    In other words, this Latin American agreement was "transferred" to the U. N., and then that same principle is attributed with the foundation of NATO.

    It is mostly a Rockefeller push? Does that sound right??

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    The indicated terms of the deal are fifteen hostages per ton of food...
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    What do you make of that equation?

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    What you hinted at.

    It means what it says: 66.6 kilograms of food corresponding to the average weight of a human being: “unless you give us the hostages’ weight in food, we’ll start eating them”.

    Once the 66.6 kilograms of “normal” food or human flesh have been eaten, they will start eating each other. First the wounded.

    It takes a strange twist of mind to want to become a soldier in order to kill other soldiers instead of banding together when natural catastrophes occur and rescuers’ bravery is needed.

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    Ratszinger posted this in the Q thread, and I think it belongs in this thread too. More practical 'big picture' than esoteric 'big picture'.


    I haven't watched MONKEYWORX for a long time. He's got fancy new software and some important updates

    Lots of mil' air transport watching, also big shipping log jams and some observations of 'great resetters' . . . . .

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    Bit of fun amongst all the darkness

    Mariupol has changed its name to Mariupol


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    As a side note, i just learned that Donetsk has changed it's area code from Ukraine to the Russian one, but don't know if Luhansk did as well. If not that would be troublesome (that only Donetsk is doing this)

    Tv has also switched, the Ukrainian Tv sources were cut off as well as internet from there, and instead now there's Russian Tv and internet sources, so for example channels and websites blocked before by Ukronazis are now free to watch and read across lots of towns in Donbass

    You should know that this is not the first time Russia puts Donetsk first, leaving Luhansk as a second thought, and that's upsetting to me, but i do know why, the main interest is of course on the south
    Tired

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