WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

[Tintin]

Eva Bartlett shared this earlier on Twitter. It's a message exchange between her and Gonzalo Lira from April 15th around 11am, and I'm posting this here so we at least have a record of it.

Tweet source: https://twitter.com/EvaKBartlett/sta...52133931798529

[Ravenlocke]

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https://twitter.com/Anabel_Villeroy/...51547015196681

https://twitter.com/Anabel_Villeroy/...39029974573057

https://twitter.com/jacalx71/status/1516879515544391686

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/NuestraIraSLG/st...62939055239170

https://twitter.com/Angelo4justice3/...78575478808589

[ExomatrixTV]

• Report: US Intelligence Cannot Support Claims Russia Committing "Genocide" in Ukraine

Above tweet was one of his last posts according to Wikipedia Gonzalo Lira disappeared April 15th 2022

• Gonzalo Lira: The Daily Beast Is Trying To Get Me Killed:

Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/IYL0bTJWSYSu

[ExomatrixTV]

• Where is Ukraine journalist Gonzalo Lira?

• source

[ExomatrixTV]

• Taylor Lorenz to Doxxx LibsOfTikTok | Gonzalo Lira Sold Out by Daily Beast Writer

• source
• Edit: I incorrectly called Gonzalo Lira 'Francisco' throughout the video.

[Richter]

Jacques Baud is a former colonel of the General Staff, ex-member of the Swiss strategic intelligence, specialist on Eastern countries. He was trained in the American and British intelligence services. He has served as Policy Chief for United Nations Peace Operations. As a UN expert on rule of law and security institutions, he designed and led the first multidimensional UN intelligence unit in the Sudan. He has worked for the African Union and was for 5 years responsible for the fight, at NATO, against the proliferation of small arms. He was involved in discussions with the highest Russian military and intelligence officials just after the fall of the USSR. Within NATO, he followed the 2014 Ukrainian crisis and later participated in programs to assist the Ukraine. He is the author of several books on intelligence, war and terrorism, in particular Le Détournement published by SIGEST, Gouverner par les fake news, L’affaire Navalny. His latest book is Poutine, maître du jeu? published by Max Milo.

The Military Situation In The Ukraine
April 1, 2022
Jacques Baud

Part One: The Road To War
For years, from Mali to Afghanistan, I have worked for peace and risked my life for it. It is therefore not a question of justifying war, but of understanding what led us to it. I notice that the 'experts' who take turns on television analyze the situation on the basis of dubious information, most often hypotheses erected as facts — and then we no longer manage to understand what is happening. This is how panics are created.

The problem is not so much to know who is right in this conflict, but to question the way our leaders make their decisions.

Let’s try to examine the roots of the conflict. It starts with those who for the last eight years have been talking about 'separatists' or 'independentists' from Donbass. This is not true. The referendums conducted by the two self-proclaimed Republics of Donetsk and Lugansk in May 2014, were not referendums of “independence” (независимость), as some unscrupulous journalists have claimed, but referendums of 'self-determination' or 'autonomy' (самостоятельность). The qualifier 'pro-Russian' suggests that Russia was a party to the conflict, which was not the case, and the term 'Russian speakers' would have been more honest. Moreover, these referendums were conducted against the advice of Vladimir Putin.

CONTINUE: https://www.thepostil.com/the-milita...n-the-ukraine/

[Tintin]

"It is irresponsible to spread rumours about #GonzaloLira "execution ". I am also receiving "information " from the Dark Web via sources but it is still UNCONFIRMED. For all we know this is an Intel PsyOp to frighten off dissenting voices. Please don't share clickbait from anyone."

5:46 AM · Apr 21, 2022·Twitter for Android

This from Vanessa Beeley earlier today, and it's a sensible cautionary approach from her, which I largely agree with actually.

Still, whatever the actual situation with Gonzalo, as she points out on the thread:

"Please remember Lira has family. 2 small children. They are worth your thoughts over and above likes on Twitter."

6:02 AM · Apr 21, 2022·Twitter for Android

Source: https://twitter.com/VanessaBeeley/st...01875823943680

[TomKat]

I don't have a youtube account, so I can't watch it -- more censorship

[pounamuknight]

Last month, when Russian forces denazified & secured the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant, NATO's think tank, the Atlantic Council published an article, warning of a nuclear false flag from Russia, while scoffing at Russia's own false flag fears


Same day, as if connected at the hip, neocon think tank's The American Enterprise Institute & The Institute for the Study of War published two pieces of fear porn echoing Atlantic Council's same thesis - "Russia is a nuclear threat in Ukraine"

Same week, as if connected at rectum, mainstream media published articles peddling the same scary sentiment

As RF securely battened down on Chernobyl & Zaporizhzhia nuclear plants, the false flag claims fizzled out. However, the empire laid the foundation of fear for what the empire itself may actually hatch in the future

As articulated in this new article by Strategic Culture, that moment may be sooner than we think...

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The Ultimate False Flag - Russia Nukes Ukraine

By Karl Haki

Importantly for the narrative to gain traction is the claim that Russia is losing the war in Ukraine.

Russia is losing the war in Ukraine, Putin is becoming desperate, and, so the Western media narrative goes, the next event for the world to expect is the Kremlin launching a nuclear attack on Ukraine.

It won't be with "normal" large strategic nuclear weapons, but rather with "low-yield" or tactical nukes - so we are prepped to expect.

The sinking of the Moskva warship on Thursday - described as the flagship of Russia's Black Sea Fleet - is cited as a severe "blow" to Putin's war effort in Ukraine. How the ship went down is disputed:

Russia is saying it sank in stormy seas after being damaged by a fire on board from an ammunition explosion. Ukraine and the Pentagon are claiming the vessel was hit with two Neptune anti-ship missiles.

The next day, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky gave a set-piece interview to American cable news network CNN in which he warned that Russia could attack his country with tactical nuclear weapons.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=l7ap_EoNPNE

The cryptic language is bizarre. Zelensky told CNN's Jake Tapper of his fear that Russia could use nukes:

Not only me - all of the world, all of the countries have to be worried because it can be not real information, but it can be truth.

It also seems strange that CNN should send its star anchorman to a war zone to conduct an exclusive interview in the comfort of the presidential office decked out with flags. A few weeks ago, Zelensky was supposedly hiding in secret underground bunkers between making hurried phone calls to international leaders and parliaments.

Zelensky claimed that Russia could use chemical weapons or nukes because Putin "does not value the lives of the people in Ukraine".

Earlier this week, CIA director William Burns issued a pointed warning that Russia could resort to tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine. Speaking on April 14, he said the assessed risk at that time was low. But Burns qualified the assessment by adding that if Russia became desperate then its decision to use nukes might change. He commented:

Given the potential desperation of President Putin and the Russian leadership, given the setbacks that they've faced so far, militarily, none of us can take lightly the threat posed by a potential resort to tactical nuclear weapons or low-yield nuclear weapons.

The Western media narrative of Russia using nukes has been steadily building. When Putin ordered the military intervention to "demilitarize and denazify" Ukraine on February 24 he also put Russia's nuclear forces on alert. That precautionary move given the wider context of NATO arming the Kiev regime was reported in Western media in hysterical terms that "Mad Vlad" was about to create mushroom clouds over Europe. It has since been mooted that Putin might gamble with nuclear saber-rattling in a manic bid to "escalate to deescalate".

Then we had waves of "reporting" that Russia was planning to use chemical weapons. It was later admitted that the claim was disinformation released by U.S. intelligence which was avidly amplified by Western media. Zelensky seems now to be reverting to the chemical weapons scare in addition to nukes.

Importantly for the narrative to gain traction is the claim that Russia is losing the war in Ukraine.

Russian troops have pulled back from the capital Kiev to concentrate their combat efforts to defeat the main Ukrainian battle groups in the east of the country. Moscow says its top objective is to secure the breakaway Donetsk and Lugansk republics whose mainly Russian-speaking people have endured eight years of war by the NATO-backed Kiev regime.

Western media have portrayed Russia's strategy as a ragged retreat and setback for Putin who, we are also "informed", is being misled by his cowering, sycophantic military generals.

However, independent military analysts like former U.S. Marine Corps officer Scott Ritter dismiss the "setback" talk, asserting that Russian forces have all but defeated the Ukrainian side and are preparing a devastating "cauldron" to wipe out the Nazi Azov Battalion remnants in the eastern Donbass region. The capture of the port city of Mariupol this week is indicative of the Russian strategic success. The sacking of Kiev was never stated as a Russian goal.

U.S. President Joe Biden and the NATO alliance are under intense pressure to intervene directly in Ukraine. Biden since taking office has already ordered $3 billion worth of weaponry to "defend Ukraine from Russian aggression". But Biden and the NATO leadership in Brussels are so far balking at any direct involvement, fearing that it could spiral into World War Three. Sleepy Joe, he may be, but sleeping walking into Armageddon is too much of a wake-up.

The Kiev regime and its media-savvy actor-turned-president Zelensky, who operates like a method-acting CIA asset, are relentless in pressuring the United States and NATO to go to war against Russia. In that call, Zelensky is boosted by the Russophobic governments of Poland and the Baltic states of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia. These minor NATO states are gung-ho to send warplanes and missiles. Tails are trying to wag the dogs.

Biden is no doubt wary of the catastrophic danger, but there seems to be a faction within the U.S. military-intelligence apparatus that is contemplating a war with Russia. The potential profits for Lockheed Martin and Co are irresistibly seductive beyond reason. American capitalism also needs to avert the social meltdown underway from record poverty and class tensions.

The false-flag provocations of alleged atrocities by Russia in Ukraine are crescendoing. Allegations of bombing hospitals, theaters, and railway stations (which have been debunked) are admixed with the reported horrors of executing civilians and throwing their bodies into mass graves. Russian troops are accused of all sorts of depravities, raping grandmothers and children.

Zelensky tells CNN that Putin doesn't care about Ukrainian lives. The subhuman image of Russia and its leader builds and builds.

Meanwhile, CNN and other Western media airbrush out the Nazi conduct of the Ukrainian military, the torture and execution of captured Russian soldiers, the indiscriminate shelling of civilians in the Donbass, not to mention the credible claims that NATO-backed Ukrainian forces carried out the atrocities in Bucha and Kramatorsk for the purpose of incriminating Russia.

Biden has felt the "emotional pressure" to condemn Russia for war crimes and genocide. He is sending more weapons this week.

But so far, the false flags that the Ukrainian regime and its Western handlers have pulled off have not quite provoked full war - yet. The ultimate false flag being set up is the sensational reporting that "Putin dropped a nuke in Ukraine".

The key thing about a low-yield 8-kiloton nuclear attack, as opposed to bigger bombs of the Hiroshima variety (that the Americans stand out as the only ones to have actually ever used), is the former can be feigned as coming from Russia. Such a device could be man-portable, a so-called suitcase bomb. The U.S. is reckoned to have 100 such tactical nukes in Europe. If one is not actually used, the reporting of "extremely loud, unknown explosions" by the dutiful Western media can be made to appear like the dreaded result. As Zelensky told CNN... "because it can be not real information, but it can be truth."

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A final interesting note, since that article was published, Strategic Culture's website has locked down to log-in function only. Indicating the site may be getting ddos/hacking attacks. Good article (maybe too good!)

[Bill Ryan]

About Gonzalo Lira: it has to be stressed that the rumors of his murder are just rumors still.

Scott Ritter (who later clarified that he doesn't really know for sure) isn't an authoritative source here. What does seem strange is that no-one has contacted his wife in Kharkov, who must know what the heck happened. One would have thought that Gonzalo would have put his closest friends in direct touch with her, as a backup in case of something bad.

But the Chilean authorities do know about this now, and it has to be only a matter of time before some definitive truth emerges. He's been captured, for sure, and it has to be possible that he's still alive. One would also expect that his captors would post some kind of photo of him, dead or alive, as that's exactly the way they operate.

[Bill Ryan]

A comparatively brief update from The Saker. As always, the many comments (hundreds per day below every article) will be well worth reading.

• http://thesaker.is/todays-open-thread-2

Updates on the Ukraine

• Mariupol has been declared liberated and it is being called the 2nd Liberation of Mariupol. Russian Minister of Defense Sergey Shoigu, during a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, announced that “The Total Liberation of Mariupol by the Allied Forces has been achieved”, with only the Azovstal Industrial Zone stronghold and its underground regions under the control of the Nationalist Forces of the Azov Regiment and remnants of the Ukrainian Regular Army in the city.

• The Azovstal plant will not be stormed but tightly encircled. Putin ordered to cancel the assault on Azovstal in order to save the lives of Russian military personnel, as well as completely block the enterprise. “There is no need to climb into the catacombs, it is necessary to block the industrial zone in Azovstal so that the fly does not fly.” This is a siege to starvation or surrender. Lone Wolf has more complete details here:
  http://thesaker.is/sitrep-operation-...omment-1075175

• The Easter truce or cease-fire requested by the UN has been rejected by Russia, on the grounds that their experience is that the Ukrainians will use the time to re-arm and re-position.

• Russia has all the necessary financial resources, no default threatens the country – Elvire Nabiullina, Governor of the Bank of Russia.

Update on Gonzalo Lira

For all that still believe that Scott Ritter reported Gonzalo’s killing, Ritter posted a clarification:

A point of clarification—I have no direct evidence that Gonzalo has been killed. I was clear I was referring to “reports emerging” about his demise. But Gonzo said any disappearance of more than 12 hours should be treated as if something bad had happened to him. It’s been five days. If this had been a New York Times reporter disappearing in Russian controlled territory, it would be headline news—especially if a Chechen “hunter killer” team had taken credit for his death. But with Gonzo—silence. Which was the whole purpose of the post: to raise awareness about his disappearance.

The full transcript of Sergei Lavrov’s press conference with India Today television channel is now posted up. Highly recommended reading.

[Tintin]

UK Column have run a special on Gonzalo Lira.

I've not had time to watch this yet but they usually do a sterling thorough job with this kind of reporting so it's probably worth the time.

Brian Gerrish, Mike Robinson, Debi Evans and Vanessa Beeley with today's UK Column News


Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/vz2zg4

[Bill Ryan]

A rather perspicacious comment on The Moon of Alabama's open thread today:

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How anyone in the west does not see these Ukrainian Nazis for what they are is beyond me.

You're neglecting the possibility that the west sees them for exactly what they are and likes what it sees.

[Kryztian]

A synopsis of a piece written by Jacques Baud, a former NATO analyst.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=GEIFwLKlq1Q

Baud's original article translated from French to English, appears here: https://www.thepostil.com/the-milita...n-the-ukraine/

[holcaul]

Posted by Kryztian (here)
A synopsis of a piece written by Jacques Baud, a former NATO analyst.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=GEIFwLKlq1Q

Baud's original article translated from French to English, appears here: https://www.thepostil.com/the-milita...n-the-ukraine/

Thank you Kryztian. Kim Iversen is terrific. How is she still allowed on youtube and on "The Hill", is beyond me.

[shaberon]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
[*]The Azovstal plant will not be stormed but tightly encircled. Putin ordered to cancel the assault on Azovstal in order to save the lives of Russian military personnel, as well as completely block the enterprise. “There is no need to climb into the catacombs, it is necessary to block the industrial zone in Azovstal so that the fly does not fly.” This is a siege to starvation or surrender.

One cannot overstate the significance of this.

Kadyrov would bulldoze it in three or four days. Maybe they could have flooded or gassed it, or blown it away with fire, but, honestly, why bother?

Those people already made their own prison.

The "hostages" are most likely their families.

They can sit there for Easter, for Christmas, for 2029...maybe if it gets quiet enough, no one will ever go in there again.

Maybe some day they will let you put fifty cents in some tourist binoculars to watch for anyone trying to come out for three minutes.

Maybe they will simply breed an albino race, learning how to lick mildew off the walls for sustenance. I believe they may be part arthropod to begin with.


In any case, they are no kind of threat.



Although some of the weapons supplied to Ukraine have showed back up in the black market in France, concerning a Strela, which, for instance, Biden isn't worried about slipping into Russian hands, it already has, and:


The MANPADs Germany supplied to Ukraine were exported from the Soviet Union to the now-defunct the German Democratic Republic in 1985.

The operational life of the Stela-2M is 25 years only. This rises some serious doubts about the effectiveness of the missiles supplied to Kiev.

[DNA]

This was on zerohedge today.
Russian largest chemical plant and another military lab unexplainably burst into flames.
Could have been a lot of things, I couldn't help but to remember the movie "Real Geniusl" where they invented a laser capable of vaporizing a person for orbital satellite placement.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...earch-facility


Russia's Largest Chemical Plant Engulfed In Flames Hours After Mystery Fire At Military Research Facility
Tyler Durden's Photo
BY TYLER DURDEN
THURSDAY, APR 21, 2022 - 02:40 PM
Update(1540ET): The death toll in the massive fire that broke out earlier in the day at a sensitive Russian Defense Ministry research facility in the city of Tver has risen to seven after emergency crews battled the Thursday blaze throughout the afternoon, state-run TASS reports.

The cause of the fire is still either unknown or not being disclosed by Russian state agencies at this point, but now more questions are being raised as another mysterious large blaze has erupted, this time at Russia's largest chemical plant, a mere hours after the fire in Tver - the latter which had engulfed a facility belonging to the secretive Central Research and Development Institute of Aerospace Defense Troops. UK media is reporting on the latest mystery fire, which marks the 2nd in the day, as follows:

[jaybee]

Posted by DNA (here)
This was on zerohedge today.
Russian largest chemical plant and another military lab unexplainably burst into flames.
Could have been a lot of things, I couldn't help but to remember the movie "Real Geniusl" where they invented a laser capable of vaporizing a person for orbital satellite placement.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...earch-facility


Russia's Largest Chemical Plant Engulfed In Flames Hours After Mystery Fire At Military Research Facility
Tyler Durden's Photo
BY TYLER DURDEN
THURSDAY, APR 21, 2022 - 02:40 PM
Update(1540ET): The death toll in the massive fire that broke out earlier in the day at a sensitive Russian Defense Ministry research facility in the city of Tver has risen to seven after emergency crews battled the Thursday blaze throughout the afternoon, state-run TASS reports.

The cause of the fire is still either unknown or not being disclosed by Russian state agencies at this point, but now more questions are being raised as another mysterious large blaze has erupted, this time at Russia's largest chemical plant, a mere hours after the fire in Tver - the latter which had engulfed a facility belonging to the secretive Central Research and Development Institute of Aerospace Defense Troops. UK media is reporting on the latest mystery fire, which marks the 2nd in the day, as follows:

I don't like the sound of this, one little bit... and I immediately linked it to a post of Bill's in the Food Shortages thread about mysterious fires breaking out at food processing plants and other similar places...

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1494751

In a nutshell.... are the Deep State moving onto advanced satellite based? laser type weaponry (Directed Energy Weapons) in their war against Russia and humanity, in general..?... and if other major military like Russia and China follow suit we could be in for a world wide escalation...

While the Ukraine 'special operation' is continuing it's obvious that the Globalist Military leaders (using infiltrated national military around the world and NATO as a front) are going to be scheming their response - they won't just be sitting there twiddling their thumbs going...oh dear...

perhaps the serious fires breaking out in various places like California and Australia and other places are also DEWs - I think this is already suspected...

How will Russia respond..?..... and will we see more and more 'mysterious fires' breaking out all over the place while the public is fed the 'sabotage' angle by the MSM propaganda outlets....



edit to add... I wonder if the Russian ship the Moskva was attacked with a Directed Energy Weapon - although Ukraine claims it was a missile strike - and then it sank due to an 'unexplained fire'... maybe to hamper examination..?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...fense-ministry

Russia’s Black Sea flagship missile cruiser, the Moskva, sank while being towed to port after an explosion caused by an unexplained fire, the Russian defence ministry has said, after Ukraine said it had hit the ship with a missile or missiles.

[Billy]

Wow. Our prayers were answered,
Gonzalo Lira is alive 🙏🥳

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=R2yeSOcNlgE