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    Ooh and Spiral, this one's for you, just don't tell the wife, lol.

    Oh no not sam fox again lol.

    But besides that, they are doing it all over again, trying to foster a larger European war, I'm beyond exasperated.

    When are we going to learn to turn around and shoot the ******* that are sending us to war.
    They're out of ideas, their entire plan has backfired. The main plan of total World Domination was never seen to be possible to fail. Still they're going about it like nothing's going on.

    I feel sorry for the UK because I am really afraid the entire Nation of England is going to be destroyed, I mean, British Intelligence is trying to have Ukraine blow up Nuclear Power Plants, they also tried it somewhere North-East of Ukraine. It's on the Military Summary channel's Mil Inf Sum for today and I have the feeling England is going to suffer because of this twisted scheme. These People just don't care about anything but control, others be damned! Sickening.

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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    from John Mark Dougan.

    This is my most powerful interview yet. I took Maria/Masha, a fierce liberal from Russia, an anti-war protester to the FRONT LINES of the war in the Donbass to see things for herself, to speak to the people for herself. This woman, with balls of steel, even walked with me through the streets of Svyatogorsk with snipers just 200 Meters away.



    A very worthwhile testimony from Masha,
    When you express from a fearful heart in the now moment, You create a fearful future.
    When you express from a loving heart in the now moment, You create a loving future.

    Have no fear, Be aware and live your lives journey from a compassionate caring nurturing heart to manifest a compassionate caring nurturing future. Billyji


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    • CNN: Ukraine Will Lose The War:

    CNN isn’t usually the place to turn to for the truth, certainly not about U.S. foreign policy, but recently host and noted late night Central Park habitue Richard Quest invited on Columbia University professor Jeffrey Sachs who shared his opinion that the only resolution to the Ukraine crisis will be a negotiated settlement that leaves Ukraine neutral and doesn’t allow either Russia or the United States to control it. Jimmy and America’s comedian Kurt Metzger discuss both the Ukraine situation and the level of depravity that will get a host permanently banned from CNN.
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    Yasinovataya is a town in Donbass that has been hit very hard over the years, to the point that hundreds of houses just simply are obliterated through a single afternoon, then the people rebuild and keep going strong until the next shelling. I truly don't get how much they refuse to just move for the time being to a safer location, they refuse and keep going strong no matter what, it's amazing to see


    Some time ago, i almost died on that town, we were there to scout and do some other aid work, then we got shelled to oblivion, in less than 3 hours or so around 100+ houses were turned into nothing, the entire town turned into a giant mess of white toxic dust, you could not see beyond 1 or 2 meters away and there was no place to hide, it was just trtying to get away as fast as possible while being mostly unable to breath. It just turned into hell

    Zemfira Suleymanova was sent to that hell on her first mission, i don't get it why, but now she's gone and it's a very sad thing as she was not (i don't think) prepared for a situation like that, but war is war and she won't be forgotten or left behind ever


    I still think mistakes are made in this way, why was she sent to a very hot zone on her first mission? Careless acts in a very real war, i don't get it, it makes me upset


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    Quote Zemfira Suleimanova (1997-2022)

    We all recognized Zemfira from the TikTok videos, with the help of which we promoted the party. It would seem that it was not at all a national Bolshevik format, but a young beautiful girl made them so funny and attractive that they collected a bunch of views.

    A week ago, she arrived in the Donbass. Help people, recruit, deliver humanitarian aid.

    The first trip was to Yasinovataya, from where Mira made reports
    . During the break between filming, a local mongrel began to flirt with her. I sensed a good person.

    On the day of the Volunteer - August 14 - the National Bolsheviks laid flowers at the eternal fire. Zemfira is also in these photos, who knew that they would be the last ...

    Well, on August 15, the car in which Mira was going to shoot was blown up by a Ukrainian anti-tank mine near Donetsk. She left around midnight.

    Now she is in the party of the dead, along with Eduard Limonov, Ilya Guryev, Evgeny Pavlenko. Sleep well, dear, we will avenge.

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    Quote One of the latest videos of our volunteer and National Bolshevik Zemfira Suleymanova

    Zemfira came to Yasinovataya to visit Slavyan, another of our volunteers. He gave a tour of the city and told about himself.

    You can see the empty streets of the constantly shelled city, but Zemfira has come from distant Nizhny Novgorod to tell about the people of Donbass and help them. The next trip with food packages was planned to Toshkovka.

    Russia should know about such people. We are not going to stop.
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    Quote Yesterday, the National Bolshevik of the World died in Donetsk. The beautiful and talented Valkyrie is no longer with us. War takes the best.

    The car with Mira was blown up by an anti-tank mine. In the town. This is the work of the Ukrainian DRG. There is no military sense in mining Donetsk. There is only one reason for this - bestial hatred for ordinary Russian people.

    If until yesterday you had doubts about why you should fight the Ukrainians, now you should not have them. Not an ounce of doubt. Not an ounce of regret. Only rage.
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    Quote Posted by Billy (here)
    from John Mark Dougan.

    This is my most powerful interview yet. I took Maria/Masha, a fierce liberal from Russia, an anti-war protester to the FRONT LINES of the war in the Donbass to see things for herself, to speak to the people for herself. This woman, with balls of steel, even walked with me through the streets of Svyatogorsk with snipers just 200 Meters away.



    A very worthwhile testimony from Masha,
    Excellent interview, she (Masha) talks about things at the start of which our own Mashika spoke of as well in a post or two. You can see in her eyes that she is not only shocked by what she experienced in the conflict zone, there's also a broken light in her eyes about realization of the lies we are fed by the West, she basically awoke and broke loose from the brainwash most People in the "Free World" suffer from, pure shock about the sum of it all.

    Perhaps this interview should be added to the library, I can see it made lost by YT at some stage.

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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    Let's not wait for the tremendous reaction and scandal from the 'international community' when they see this. I bet they won't go all 'saddam hussein is a monster' on Elensky, for one reason or another


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    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    Let's not wait for the tremendous reaction and scandal from the 'international community' when they see this. I bet they won't go all 'saddam hussein is a monster' on Elensky, for one reason or another
    The media in the US and EU/UK really does seem to be steadily distancing the 'west' from Elensky. It looks like he's being set up as the fall guy for Ukraine's surprising failure to march all the way to Moscow.

    (Alexander Mercouris has been taking note of all this and commenting about it regularly)
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    Let's not wait for the tremendous reaction and scandal from the 'international community' when they see this. I bet they won't go all 'saddam hussein is a monster' on Elensky, for one reason or another
    The media in the US and EU/UK really does seem to be steadily distancing the 'west' from Elensky. It looks like he's being set up as the fall guy for Ukraine's surprising failure to march all the way to Moscow.



    Quote
    (Alexander Mercouris has been taking note of all this and commenting about it regularly)
    Have not listened to them for several days, have to get back to the habit of checking daily
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    Let's not wait for the tremendous reaction and scandal from the 'international community' when they see this. I bet they won't go all 'saddam hussein is a monster' on Elensky, for one reason or another
    The media in the US and EU/UK really does seem to be steadily distancing the 'west' from Elensky. It looks like he's being set up as the fall guy for Ukraine's surprising failure to march all the way to Moscow.

    (Alexander Mercouris has been taking note of all this and commenting about it regularly)
    It's been done a couple times now, somewhere back in June or so something was up and mainstream (at least over here) was reporting negatively about Ukraine for a day or two. Last couple of weeks it seemed like there was a cut of ties again, for some reason the Chicken of Kiev wormed his way back into Biden's graces.

    I would really like to know why though, I mean they have given Ukraine card blanche to commit warcrimes wherever they feel like. The latest being those undetectable French Mines (EMP F2) they fielded over at Eastern Bakhmut, not to speak about the nuclear thing, so what is that wannabe Adolf doing to upset Biden, besides winning a defeat?

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    Things are afoot, looks like the "breakthrough" is happening.....


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    • West Can End Fighting (War) In Ukraine Tomorrow – Roger Waters
    The Pink Floyd co-founder gives RT his view on why the Ukraine conflict continues and what’s behind US foreign policy.



    Ukrainians can stop dying tomorrow if the US sat down with Russia and made peace, Pink Floyd co-founder and British rock legend Roger Waters told RT in an interview on Friday. Waters said the West seems determined to fight “to the last Ukrainian” because there are fortunes to be made from weapons sales, while American elites wish to rule the world.

    Quote “It can be stopped, in my view, tomorrow,” Waters told RT’s Eunan O’Neill. “All it takes is for the Americans to come to the table and say ‘OK, let’s go with the Minsk agreements’. And then it would be over.”
    Waters pointed out that the current president of Ukraine, Vladimir Zelensky, ran on the platform of upholding the Minsk agreements and ending the civil war that started after the illegal 2014 coup in Kiev, and that 73% of Ukrainians voted for him based on that, “so they didn’t have to have a war.”

    “The minute he was elected, someone put a gun to his head, I assume, and he changed his mind and didn’t do any of that,” Waters noted.

    Asked if the West wanted the conflict to end, Waters replied, “No, of course not.”

    Quote “No, they have no interest in ending it. They will fight to the last Ukrainian. Or if they do want it to end, why don’t they end it? Because it’s in their hands, always has been. It’s in NATO’s hands, it’s in Joe Biden’s hands – except it’s not, it’s his … whoever pulls his strings’ hands. And they don’t want it to end. There’s huge fortunes to be made,” he added, in reference to billions of dollars’ worth of weapons the US and NATO countries were sending to Kiev.

    Waters has been an outspoken human rights activist for years, saying that his platform is that “all our brothers and sisters, all over the world deserve equal rights irrespective of their ethnicity, religion or nationality,” as outlined by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights – no more, no less.

    A montage of alleged “war criminals” featured on his new concert tour ‘This Is Not A Drill’ includes the face of current US President Joe Biden. Waters defended that choice in last week’s interview with CNN’s Michael Smerconish, which has gained a lot of traction on social media.

    Waters pointed out that the interview was “quite a jovial affair” but what CNN ended up posting was “heavily edited” to remove his views on Ukraine and “make me look like an idiot.”

    The rock guitarist is on the record condemning the Russian operation in Ukraine as “a criminal mistake,” but told RT it was “a huge mistake for the Americans to try and push NATO right up to the Russian border” as well.

    Circling back to the Minsk agreements, Waters wondered why they have been memory-holed by the media, when the overwhelming majority of Ukrainians voted for peace but got war instead. While he doesn’t speak Russian, Waters noted that he’s done a lot of reading and research, trying to understand the conflict from a global standpoint.

    “I have a dog in the race. My father died in Italy fighting the Third Reich,” he added.

    Commenting on US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s recent visit to Taiwan, Waters told RT that Ukraine and Taiwan are the two hotspots that could trigger the Third World War.

    “People don’t take nuclear weapons nearly seriously enough,” he said.

    Elaborating on the history and background of China and Taiwan, Waters wondered why the West was so determined to impose its values on others.

    Quote “Why should you decide, you, this colonial settlement in North America, why should you get to decide how everybody else in the world behaves?” he told RT. “They want to rule the world, that is what is so dangerous about American foreign policy.”
    • You can’t rule the world, Joe Biden. You can’t do it, brother. It’s a fool’s errand.
    Yet it would be just as wrong if Russia or China had thousands of military bases spanning the world, as the US does, he pointed out. The key feature of George Orwell’s 1984, he noted, is that the three world powers – Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia – were always at war, even if they constantly changed sides.

    Waters, 78, co-founded Pink Floyd in 1965. He was the progressive rock band’s frontman, lyricist and vocalist for years, until he left in 1983 to pursue a solo career.

    He has also been an advocate against the persecution of WikiLeaks publisher Julian Assange, Israeli abuses of Palestinians, and social media censorship, among other things.
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    Lightbulb Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    • Roger Waters Uncut Video Reveals CNN Hiding The Truth | Redacted With Clayton Morris:


    • Why Should Us Decide How Everyone Behaves - Roger Waters:

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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    Ukrainians can stop dying tomorrow if the US sat down with Russia and made peace, Pink Floyd co-founder and British rock legend Roger Waters told RT in an interview on Friday. Waters said the West seems determined to fight “to the last Ukrainian” because there are fortunes to be made from weapons sales, while American elites wish to rule the world.
    No one wants america in charge, is the sentiment that encircles the globe inside and outside of the collective west; and yet, the rhetoric remains that america is the way to peace. [Does this make a lick of sense at all?] Representatives of the music industry are usually against war and for peace. Why doesn't Waters put the U.K. on the spot? Are they not as vested equally in the conflict as america? America does not have the track record of continued success in negotiations either. The Russian would listen to the american but the Russian will not concede to this modern and inexperienced american. They wouldn't do it for JFK over 5o years ago. The reason the Russians will listen is their open door policy on continuous diplomacy through conflict. The Russian is looking for professionals and as soon as they see a lack of experience, it's pretty much over: The Russian will crush you with experience.

    I would indicate that america cannot end this conflict. In the typical american method, they threw money at the problem expecting it to solve itself. This is what american's do when they have the money: in government or even in business. It is a never ending policy that is generally accepted and touted by the MSM.

    If JFK is one of the best examples of american leadership and he failed miserably with the Russian; what hope does america really have? None, in my opinion.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    Let's not wait for the tremendous reaction and scandal from the 'international community' when they see this. I bet they won't go all 'saddam hussein is a monster' on Elensky, for one reason or another
    The media in the US and EU/UK really does seem to be steadily distancing the 'west' from Elensky. It looks like he's being set up as the fall guy for Ukraine's surprising failure to march all the way to Moscow.

    (Alexander Mercouris has been taking note of all this and commenting about it regularly)
    Maybe Zelensky went too far blatantly trying to start war between the US and Russia.

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    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    Yasinovataya is a town in Donbass that has been hit very hard over the years, to the point that hundreds of houses just simply are obliterated through a single afternoon, then the people rebuild and keep going strong until the next shelling. I truly don't get how much they refuse to just move for the time being to a safer location, they refuse and keep going strong no matter what, it's amazing to see


    Some time ago, i almost died on that town, we were there to scout and do some other aid work, then we got shelled to oblivion, in less than 3 hours or so around 100+ houses were turned into nothing, the entire town turned into a giant mess of white toxic dust, you could not see beyond 1 or 2 meters away and there was no place to hide, it was just trtying to get away as fast as possible while being mostly unable to breath. It just turned into hell

    Zemfira Suleymanova was sent to that hell on her first mission, i don't get it why, but now she's gone and it's a very sad thing as she was not (i don't think) prepared for a situation like that, but war is war and she won't be forgotten or left behind ever


    I still think mistakes are made in this way, why was she sent to a very hot zone on her first mission? Careless acts in a very real war, i don't get it, it makes me upset


    https://t.me/wargonzo/7886

    Quote Zemfira Suleimanova (1997-2022)

    We all recognized Zemfira from the TikTok videos, with the help of which we promoted the party. It would seem that it was not at all a national Bolshevik format, but a young beautiful girl made them so funny and attractive that they collected a bunch of views.

    A week ago, she arrived in the Donbass. Help people, recruit, deliver humanitarian aid.

    The first trip was to Yasinovataya, from where Mira made reports
    . During the break between filming, a local mongrel began to flirt with her. I sensed a good person.

    On the day of the Volunteer - August 14 - the National Bolsheviks laid flowers at the eternal fire. Zemfira is also in these photos, who knew that they would be the last ...

    Well, on August 15, the car in which Mira was going to shoot was blown up by a Ukrainian anti-tank mine near Donetsk. She left around midnight.

    Now she is in the party of the dead, along with Eduard Limonov, Ilya Guryev, Evgeny Pavlenko. Sleep well, dear, we will avenge.

    https://t.me/adirect/12933

    Quote One of the latest videos of our volunteer and National Bolshevik Zemfira Suleymanova

    Zemfira came to Yasinovataya to visit Slavyan, another of our volunteers. He gave a tour of the city and told about himself.

    You can see the empty streets of the constantly shelled city, but Zemfira has come from distant Nizhny Novgorod to tell about the people of Donbass and help them. The next trip with food packages was planned to Toshkovka.

    Russia should know about such people. We are not going to stop.
    https://t.me/adirect/12940

    Quote Yesterday, the National Bolshevik of the World died in Donetsk. The beautiful and talented Valkyrie is no longer with us. War takes the best.

    The car with Mira was blown up by an anti-tank mine. In the town. This is the work of the Ukrainian DRG. There is no military sense in mining Donetsk. There is only one reason for this - bestial hatred for ordinary Russian people.

    If until yesterday you had doubts about why you should fight the Ukrainians, now you should not have them. Not an ounce of doubt. Not an ounce of regret. Only rage.
    https://twitter.com/PLnewstoday/stat...69435345321984



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    https://twitter.com/TobiAyodele/stat...07836790231042
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    https://twitter.com/tassagency_en/st...50144157294592


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    Press review: Danger lurks along Kiev route for IAEA and why EU can’t shun Russian oil

    Kommersant: Russia, Ukraine at odds over route for IAEA inspectors to visit Zaporozhye NPP


    The Zaporozhye nuclear power plant has been shelled for more than 10 days already, and it’s not yet clear whether inspectors from the International Energy Agency (IAEA) could visit the facility.

    Though both Russia and Ukraine have claimed they are ready to facilitate a visit, neither of the sides has been able to organize one. The key controversy remains the route for the team of inspectors to get to Ukraine’s Energodar on the left bank of the Dnepr, where the plant is located.

    Taking the Kiev route would mean crossing the frontline, which would be a huge risk for the inspectors, since the Ukrainian armed forces are dissimilar and mixed in their nature, Igor Vishnevetsky, deputy director of the Russian Foreign Ministry’s non-proliferation and arms control department, told Kommersant.

    Senior Fellow at the Vienna Center for Disarmament and Non-Proliferation (VCDNP) Nikolay Sokov told the paper there were two aspects around the dispute over the route - ensuring the mission’s security and the politics surrounding the war. "There can hardly be any doubt that it would be safer to arrive at the plant from Russia, and yet this route would mean recognizing Russia’s control of the said area by the United Nations and - to a lesser degree - by the IAEA, which is unacceptable for both, especially for the UN," he argued.

    According to him, the problem for the IAEA is that the NPP is still controlled by Kiev’s Energoatom, which means that it would be impossible to sidestep the Ukrainian capital along their route. Russia’s state-run nuclear energy corporation, Rosatom, has already proposed placing the NPP under its responsibility, but the IAEA cannot agree to that, he said. "The visit is very much needed, but it could only take place if the sides agree on a formula that would not touch upon sovereignty," Sokov said, and while the issue is a question of principle for Ukraine, Russia could show flexibility.

    The issue could get some clarity in the next few days though. UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres discussed the situation around the Zaporozhye NPP with Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu over the phone on Monday, and on August 18-19 the UN chief will visit Ukraine to discuss the issue.
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    nice to see you are back, Mashika

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