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    Some more on today’s shelling of Donetsk by the AFU

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    https://www.rt.com/russia/560414-amn...tical-ukraine/

    Amnesty apologizes after Ukrainian pressure


    International human rights group Amnesty International has issued an apology for the consternation triggered by its recent report, which, among other things, accused the Ukrainian armed forces of violating “international humanitarian law and endanger[ing] civilians.” The organization has, however, refused to disavow its findings.

    In an e-mail sent to Reuters on Sunday, Amnesty said that it “deeply regrets the distress and anger that our press release on the Ukrainian military’s fighting tactics has caused,” as cited by Reuters.

    The rights group went on to explain that its “sole objective” in publishing the analysis was to ensure that “civilians are protected.” It also made it clear that it “fully stand[s] by our findings.”

    In its email, Amnesty insisted that its observers had sighted Ukrainian forces in the vicinity of residential areas in at least 19 towns and villages across the country. According to the organization, by positioning its forces in such a manner, the Ukrainian military endangered the civilian populations there by subjecting them to the danger of incoming Russian fire.

    Ukrainian forces ‘put civilians at risk’ – Amnesty READ MORE: Ukrainian forces ‘put civilians at risk’ – Amnesty
    Soon after the findings were published, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky accused Amnesty of trying to shift the responsibility away from Russian troops. Addressing these criticisms, the group stressed that its findings do not suggest that “Amnesty International holds Ukrainian forces responsible for violations committed by Russian forces, nor that the Ukrainian military is not taking adequate precautions elsewhere in the country.”

    The rights group added: “Nothing we documented Ukrainian forces doing in any way justifies Russian violations.”

    The report in question was published on Thursday. While lambasting Russian forces, the investigation also took aim at the Ukrainian military, claiming that it had displayed a troubling pattern of “putting civilians at risk and violating the laws of war” by operating from residential infrastructure, including schools.

    Commenting on the group’s findings, Agnes Callamard, Amnesty International’s secretary general, emphasized that “being in a defensive position does not exempt the Ukrainian military from respecting international humanitarian law.”

    Zelensky, however, lashed out at Amnesty, proclaiming that anyone who doubts that “Ukraine is a victim” is an “accomplice of Russia – a terrorist country – and a terrorist themselves and a participant in the killings.”

    Ukrainian officials have also insisted that Kiev is doing its best to evacuate civilians out of harm’s way.

    Russia, in turn, pointed out that it had repeatedly called out Ukrainian troops for using civilians as “human shields,” and Amnesty’s findings only serve to confirm that.
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    https://tass.com/world/1490477?utm_s...m_social_share

    Ukrainian troops make another strike on Zaporozhye NPP - city administration

    The damaged zone included the area of the storage facility for spent nuclear fuel

    MOSCOW, August 7. /TASS/. Ukrainian troops once again shelled the Zaporozhe nuclear power plant, with the spent nuclear fuel storage area coming into the impact zone, the press service of Energodar’s military-civilian administration said on Sunday.

    "At night, Ukrainian armed units made a strike using a 220mm rocket of the Uragan MLRS," it reported. When approaching the power units, the rocket released submunitions, the press service said.

    "The damaged zone included the area of the storage facility for spent nuclear fuel and the station for computer-assistant monitoring of the radiation situation," it said. Administrative buildings and the adjoining territory of the storage facility were damaged by the projectiles," the report said.

    All fires that broke out in the area of the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant in Energodar as a result of shelling from Ukrainian troops, have been put out, Vladimir Rogov, a council member of the Zaporozhye Region’s military-civilian administration, told TASS on Sunday.

    "All fires have been put out completely," Rogov stressed.




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    MOSCOW, August 7. /TASS/. Ukrainian troops once again shelled the Zaporozhe nuclear power plant
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    Hopefully, the fact that the whole world is now watching closely, that might stop the Ukrainian military from further shelling of that nuclear plant? But if they do hit that nuclear reactor, any projections on what would be the fall-out? Over which areas? Just wondering if they would intentionally do this in anticipation that most of the radiation would move eastward towards the Donbass or Russia. In any case, it would be an insane offensive.

    "UN slams ‘suicidal’ nuclear plant attacks"
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    Quote Posted by Rizotto (here)
    Hopefully, the fact that the whole world is now watching closely, that might stop the Ukrainian military from further shelling of that nuclear plant? But if they do hit that nuclear reactor, any projections on what would be the fall-out? Over which areas? Just wondering if they would intentionally do this in anticipation that most of the radiation would move eastward towards the Donbass or Russia. In any case, it would be an insane offensive.
    Shelling is actually very unlikely to do much if any damage. Nuclear plants are highly engineered to be near-indestructible unless the thing explodes from within, as with Chernobyl, or there's a 9.0 earthquake and tsunami, as with Fukushima.

    If anything, the escapade just illustrates how irresponsible and criminal the Ukrainian authorities are (such actions are likely to be ordered by politicians, not the military), cheer-led by the western media who are just as bad. They won't damage the reactor, but it's the intentions which are clearly put on show here.

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    any projections on what would be the fall-out? Over which areas?
    In the worst-case scenario, the reactor containment would be destroyed by explosions and the cooling system would fail, the radioactivity of both the reactor and the fuel pool could then freely escape into the atmosphere.

    This risks making the entire plant inaccessible because of the high radiation levels, which could then lead to a further cascade of the other reactors and fuel pools, each spreading large quantities of radioactivity into different wind directions over several weeks.

    It could make a large part of Europe, including Russia, uninhabitable for at least many decades and over a distance of hundreds of kilometers, a nightmare scenario and potentially far worse than the Fukushima Daiichi disaster in 2011.

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    • Policy By Other Means - By Helmholtz Smith
    "Hybrid war". Western propagandists love the expression "The bad guys are doing nasty underhand things to counter our clean-cut decent and wholly justified activities" but they are just making noise. As Clausewitz knew, however, there is an actual meaning:
    We see, therefore, that War is not merely a political act, but also a real political instrument, a continuation of political commerce, a carrying out of the same by other means. All beyond this which is strictly peculiar to War relates merely to the peculiar nature of the means which it uses (...) for the political view is the object, War is the means, and the means must always include the object in our conception.
    In this sense, all intelligently-conducted wars are "hybrid wars" advancing on many levels to achieve the "political object" by "other means".
    What is the "object"?

    Moscow knows that NATO/USA is the real enemy and that the wretched Ukrainians are its puppets and their looted and worn-out country is the arena. Putin himself has said that NATO's threat to Russia must be stopped. NATO, and the European Union with which it is closely linked, must be exposed as useless, actively harmful to their members and their hostility defeated.

    NATO, which loves to pose as peaceful (despite the five or six wars it's started in the last quarter-century), cannot or will not understand Russia's point of view. Moscow will shove its face in it. Putin says that he has many times tried other means (Munich 2007 being one of the earliest). Those means having failed, he's using these means this time.

    Far-ranging aims require a multi-front attack. Let us consider the fronts.

    MILITARY FRONT. Putin has explained the aims – denazification and demilitarization Maybe they could have been achieved through negotiation – although years of Kiev ignoring the Minsk Agreements suggest not – but that didn't happen. Maybe Moscow hoped that its feint on Kiev might prevent a bloody slog but that didn't happen either. And so the battle of annihilation is on – Ukraine's military power is being smashed and the Nazis killed.

    It's taking a long time for several reasons. Imagine the Western Front trench line but with three times as long to build it and concrete rather than sandbags and wood. Russia and its allies attacked with smaller forces. The allied forces are moving slowly to reduce their casualties and because they are in no particular hurry. The Ukrainians are resisting very tenaciously and NATO is egging them on. The Ukrainian forces are being methodically slaughtered, allied casualties are a fraction of that because "artillery conquers and infantry occupies".

    DIPLOMATIC FRONT. The West likes claim that Russia is isolated. But, in terms of population, the so-called "International Community" represents only 15 to 20 percent of the world and the Russians are well-received elsewhere. Here's Lavrov very much in the thick of things at ASEAN, in Africa (note media attempts to spin it away) and the Arab world.

    Russia isn't isolated at all and its diplomacy is having effect. US diplomacy, on the other hand, is just threats – Africa is warned, China threatened.

    ECONOMIC FRONT. When Moscow began its "special military operation", it expected that Nordstream 2 would be stopped because it knew the West was stuck on the idea that the Russian economy is dependent on selling energy to Europe – "Russia cannot afford to cut its sales of oil". Moscow had its response ready – hostile countries have to pay in rubles.

    What's Europe's response? Hurt Putin by not showering. Don't, he doesn't care. Of course the price went up and Moscow has probably completely funded the operation out of the increased revenue. The West is discovering – and, advised as it is by people like Aslund, to its astonishment – that "the country that doesn't make anything" is a big producer of lots of essential things.

    Moscow knew Washington would stick Europeans with the check – just as Washington will fight to the last Ukrainian, it will sanction until the last European freezes. The economic war is doing more damage to Russia's enemies. They will either figure this out and change their behavior or they won't and they'll suffer. Moscow waits knowing that it wins either way.

    PROPAGANDA FRONT. It is a common sentiment that Moscow is losing the propaganda war but I'm not convinced. Propaganda has to have some basis in truth – instead we have the martyrs of Snake Island miraculously reviving, the ghostly Ghost of Kiev, million-man armies disappearing, Kherson counter attacks put off again, maternity hospital bombings exposed by the bombed-out mothers, bodies thoughtfully left out to be seen, Russia begging China, Iran or North Korea for weapons, another "game-changer" weapon.

    Russia was running out of ammunition in March, April, June and July. You have to be pretty comatose to still believe this. The propagandists have lost their skills. And reality leaks out through the holes in these flimsy tales. Witness the reception of the Amnesty International report that Ukrainian tactics are "putting civilians at risk and violating the laws of war when they operate in populated areas".

    "Putin's propagandists" chides The Times; "cannot be tolerated" says Zelensky; "Russian propaganda" as she quits. No news to us who have seen Azov fighters sheltering behind civilians in Mariupol, weapons hidden in shopping centers, troops setting up in schools. But it's a shocker to believers of the Western narrative (especially Vogue readers!).

    Skeptics know that the difference between a conspiracy theory and reported truth is a few months. In June it was Russian disinformation that corrupt officials were selling Western weapons, in August it's news. Zelensky a hero then, corrupt now. Expect more "disinformation" transforming into truth.

    JUDO. Putin is well known to be a judo master. Judo is the art of using the opponent's movements against it. That's what we are seeing. On every front Russia has time on its side and escalation dominance. The impotence of NATO and the EU – in fact the actual damage that membership in either brings – is more perceptible every day as winter approaches.

    Europe's, the West's, predominance stood on three legs. The power to compel others. The captivating halo of success. The wealth to fund the other two. Watch this little video – not much respect there. I expect we will see more vignettes like this.

    The statue is hollow, the Mandate of Heaven is shifting.
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    Looks wonderful. If only they played test cricket as well it'd be a shoo-in for a 'Yes' from me
    Here ya go

    https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_national_cricket_team


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