WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

[Spiral]

Posted by justntime2learn (here)
Is it over or a joke?

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Its a joke, but I don't think it's a deepfake.

I think it's a guy who looks a lot like him who has become famous for spoofing the Ukronazi President, often with a lot of white powder around his nose. He does video talks with unsuspecting Ukrainians & winds them up, much to the great amusement of his Russian speaking audience.

Probably the first conflict where trolling the enemy online is part & parcel of the warfare right at the highest levels.

[Spiral]

Any one on twitter ?

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/JGForsyth/status...76203653435393

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...g-the-cabinet-


Who will join Sunak and Javid in quitting the cabinet?

The Chancellor and the Health Secretary have both resigned and at least one more cabinet minister is considering their position. This is the cabinet moving against Boris Johnson. It reflects the growing sense in cabinet that, as Sunak puts it, ‘we cannot continue like this’.

This puts Boris Johnson in the gravest danger of his premiership
This puts Boris Johnson in the gravest danger of his premiership. It is hard to see how he can continue when he is losing the confidence of so many of his cabinet who feel that the current situation is untenable for the country, the government and the Conservative party.

It is remarkable for two such senior cabinet ministers to resign at the same time. It reflects their deep frustration with how the government is being run, and the consequences of that.

In his letter, Sunak says that he has previously been prepared to compromise and accept collective responsibility for decisions that he didn’t agree with, but he can no longer do this because the differences between No. 10 and No. 11 are now too great to be bridged.

Javid writes to Johnson: ‘you have lost my confidence too’. Javid tells Johnson 'the party is bigger than any one individual' and that in a conflict of loyalties between the country and Johnson he had to put country first. We now wait to see if others follow these two, and I suspect they will.

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/coope125/status/1544362185408876544

https://twitter.com/coope125/status/1544369652196835330

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
https://twitter.com/JGForsyth/status...76203653435393

Well, good, and let's see if this tips him out of power. (It should, and if so, not a moment too soon.) Here's a running live-updates breaking news thread about this on the BBC website:

• https://bbc.com/news/live/uk-politics-62048657

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/spriteer_774400/...75818104840194

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https://twitter.com/spriteer_774400/...74787669168130

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https://twitter.com/spriteer_774400/...61910216302592

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https://twitter.com/spriteer_774400/...76741640212484

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https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/statu...87901403848704

https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/statu...86045860626432

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
https://twitter.com/JGForsyth/status...76203653435393

Well, good, and let's see if this tips him out of power. (It should, and if so, not a moment too soon.) Here's a running live-updates breaking news thread about this on the BBC website:

• https://bbc.com/news/live/uk-politics-62048657

I'm also following The Guardian's live updates here:

• https://theguardian.com/politics/liv...-politics-live

Johnson loyalists are now resigning like dominoes. Not all of them, but so many now that his situation will very soon be impossible.

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/ChannelOne_eng/s...13799712378881

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https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1544357939917443072

https://www.rt.com/russia/558396-mer...illed-numbers/

Number of mercenaries recently killed in Ukraine revealed
Scores of foreign mercenaries have been killed in Ukraine over the past ten days, Russian Defense Minister, Sergey Shoigu said on Tuesday.

Speaking at a ministry meeting, Shoigu said that “as a result of the successful offensive” by both Russian and Donbass republics’ forces, “the number of foreign mercenaries and employees of private military companies operating in the country has decreased.”

“Over the past 10 days, 170 foreign mercenaries have been killed, 99 have refused to participate in combat and left the territory of Ukraine,” he said.

Earlier on Tuesday, Damien Magrou, a spokesman for the International Legion of Territorial Defense of Ukraine – a foreign military unit created in late February by the Ukrainian government at the request of President Volodymyr Zelensky – confirmed that a French fighter, named as Adrien D., had been killed in Kharkov Region.

Speaking to BFM TV, Magrou said the fighter died of injuries in a field hospital on June 25, after spending some time in a coma.

Mercenaries involved in murdering POWs eliminated – Russia READ MORE:

According to RTL radio, Adrien D. was one of the first foreigners to join the Ukrainian side. He is the second French national to be killed there.

On June 1, his compatriot Wilfried Bleriot was killed, also in Kharkov Region. His funeral took place on June 30 in France.

RTL reports that there are about fifty French nationals fighting for Kiev while in mid-June Magrou revealed that foreigners from 55 countries serve in the legion, with most of them coming from Poland, the US, the UK and Canada.

All members of the legion “are servicemen in the Ukrainian Armed Forces,” Magrou added, arguing that they should be considered as prisoners of war, protected by the Geneva Conventions, if captured.

“We hereby call on Russian authorities and Russian proxies to respect international humanitarian law and refrain from politically motivated criminal proceedings against lawful members of the Ukrainian Armed Forces,” Magrou said in a statement.

Russian military spokesman Major General Igor Konashenkov said last month that the best thing the foreign mercenaries could expect was a “long term in prison.” He also claimed that attempts by Ukrainian officials to provide the foreign fighters with legal protection by adding them to the list of the Armed Forces or giving them Ukrainian passports would not save them from prosecution.

He also revealed that hundreds of foreign mercenaries in Ukraine had been killed by Russian long-range precision weapons “shortly after their arrival at the places where they were undergoing additional training and where the tactical units were coordinated.” However, most of them, according to the spokesman, were killed “due to a low level of training and a lack of real combat experience.”

Data from the Russian defense ministry shows that 6,956 foreign citizens from 64 countries arrived in Ukraine to become pro-Kiev combatants between February 24 and June 17. Some 1,956 of those have been killed, while 1,779 have left the country, the ministry said.

[Ravenlocke]

https://www.rt.com/russia/558384-wes...confrontation/

Fyodor Lukyanov: Why the West has failed to get the rest of the world on board to support its confrontation with Russia
By Fyodor Lukyanov, the editor-in-chief of Russia in Global Affairs, chairman of the Presidium of the Council on Foreign and Defense Policy, and research director of the Valdai International Discussion Club.
The recent festival of big Western politics – which began with a meeting of the European Council, continued with the G7 Summit, and ended with a major NATO gathering – provides plenty of food for thought about the fate of the world.

On the surface, what we have seen is impressive: The West is showing unprecedented unity in the face of the Russian campaign in Ukraine.

America has gathered almost all of its allies. Right now, from Australia to Norway, from Singapore to Portugal, and from Japan to Iceland, the agenda is the same – to prevent the success of Russian President Vladimir Putin, who represents a rejection of the so-called ‘rules-based order’.

The brutality and irreversibility of what is happening in Ukraine gives the situation the character of a moral choice. Almost all statements from Western leaders refer to a confrontation between "civilization and barbarism". Accordingly, they believe, there should be no doubt about which side to take.

US believes it’s not yet time for peace talks between Russia and Ukraine
US believes it’s not yet time for peace talks between Russia and Ukraine
The Western community has now reached maximum capacity – its European flank (EU and NATO members plus Ukraine and Moldova), its Asian club (South Korea, Japan, and Singapore stopped wavering and took the ‘right’ side), the Oceania pairing, and of course, North America. The ‘free world’ has never been so vast.

This raises a serious question, however. Has the West reached its natural limit beyond which expansion is no longer possible? And if so, what does it mean?

In fact, the topic of the limits of Western influence stems from the notorious concept of the ‘end of history’, which is already so worn out that it is even inconvenient to bring it up. Nevertheless, it is appropriate in this context. Francis Fukuyama’s reflections (he was recently banned from entering Russia, as it happens) led him to conclude that with the collapse of the communist alternative, the only question that remained was how soon and how painlessly the Western economic and socio–political model – which had proved its virtues in the showdown with the USSR – would spread to the rest of the world. The author admitted that it would not be without snags, but in general, the direction was determined once and for all.

How things actually played out after the collapse of the USSR is well known, and despite the fact that numerous crises in developed countries have dimmed the view of the expected path of development, the system has been preserved – and no one has yet come close to the Western world in terms of well-being and comfort. And the Western media still has a near-monopoly on determining the picture of what is happening on a global scale. This means it has a huge head start. But the limit seems to have been reached.

Perhaps the main surprise resulting from the events of recent months is that the West has failed to engage so much of the world in a united front against Russia – the exceptions being those who are already part of the West and a few who passionately want to join the club.

This is unexpected, since few people approve of Russia’s actions in Ukraine. Moscow is dealing with problems that are seemingly irrelevant to anyone but itself, and the harsh methods and humanitarian consequences of the conflict do not elicit much sympathy from outside. In other words, objectively, the West has an excellent chance to win over most of the rest of the world by taking the line that its cause here is about opposition to barbarism.

But this is not happening. Why? There are perhaps three main reasons.

Firstly, the non-Western world knows perfectly well that wars on the planet have never stopped, including in the last 30 years, and statements from the EU states about the era of ‘harmony and prosperity’ that Putin interrupted are perceived as both selfishness and hypocrisy. Telling people in the Middle East, for example, that Russia has violated every conceivable moral standard is, to put it mildly, difficult in light of what the region has experienced since the Cold War ended.

Decline in Western training of Ukrainian troops – media
Decline in Western training of Ukrainian troops – media
Secondly, most in the former third world see the current events as the culmination of a long-standing conflict related to the assertive policies of the US and its allies regarding the territories directly adjacent to Russia. Their attitude is something like: ‘What did you expect would happen when you provoked the tiger?’

Finally, the reaction of the majority of the planet illustrates their irritation with the West as a whole. It is perceived as a hegemon with a colonial history which is always abusing its powers. The reason is not support for Russia’s actions, but opposition to the West’s attempts to impose its will on others, which often harms their own interests. Also, schadenfreude over America’s failed attempts to impose its will compensates for any doubts about the legitimacy of Moscow’s actions.

In other words, it’s not about sympathy for Russia, but antipathy to the West.

Western leaders are both surprised and alarmed by this situation. If the initial calls to join the boycott of Russia amounted to orders, now the demands have been replaced by exhortations and attempts to promise something in return. The selection of the G7 Summit guests – the presidents of India, Indonesia, Senegal, Argentina, and South Africa – is indicative.

The invited parties were warmly welcomed. Everyone was in a hurry to tap Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi on the shoulder and give him attention. But apart from general statements, nothing happened. And almost in parallel with the events in Europe, Modi participated in a virtual BRICS summit, and Argentina, it seems, together with Iran, has applied to join this emerging association.

The position of non-Western states is dictated not only by anti-colonial instincts, although they do exist. More importantly, in the new conditions, it is difficult for the West to offer the leading countries of the rest of the world anything that would force them to radically change their positions. There are now alternative sources of resources for development – ​​a number of members of the former third world today have money, skills, and to some extent, technology. The West is still ahead of them in many ways, but – and this is fundamentally important – it has now completely lost the desire to share its advantages.

Simply because it now fears competition from them – the experience of American support for the development of China is considered a mistake by the current elites.

Developing countries are of course interested in Western investment, but the nature of interaction is also changing. To put it mildly, the former third world is becoming more demanding and picky, and the West’s ability to impose its own conditions has weakened amid large-scale global changes.

The series of meetings in Europe was intended to show that the West is still the undisputed vanguard of the world, which has both the right and responsibility to lead others. For instance, NATO is once again attempting to become a global organization rather than regional.

Russia comments on UN Security Council expansion prospects
Russia comments on UN Security Council expansion prospects
The bloc’s most recent experience of this kind – in Afghanistan – ended in embarrassment. But now the approach is more natural – opposition to Russia.

As they see it, Russia is a threat to Western European security (as it was in the glory days of NATO), but it is also a dangerous pariah for all mankind, so opposing it will help expand the US-led club globally. Moreover, the specter of China looms – a systemic competitor to the West and, even better, an accomplice of ‘the Russians’.

How much the Western world itself is united for the full implementation of such a mission is a topic for another article. There are a lot of nuances here. However, even assuming that this is the case, there is no reason to think that NATO’s ambition will meet with understanding beyond its borders.

As a consequence, the broad refusal to recognize the right of the West to lead means there will no longer be a world order based on Western rules.

[Vicus]

Putin Says Western Sanctions Speeding Up Russia-Belarus Unification

Russian President Vladimir Putin said Friday that sanctions and other pressure from the West have sped up the "unification process" for Russia and Belarus.

The two nations signed an integration treaty in 1997. The process has been sped up since the US and its allies rejected the result of Belarus’ 2020 presidential election that saw Alexander Lukashenko win another term.

After the election, the US and EU started imposing sanctions on Belarus and threw support behind an exiled opposition leader. As a result, Lukashenko drew closer to Putin, and Russia was able to launch the initial phase of its invasion of Ukraine from Belarusian territory.

Since the invasion, the West has targeted Belarus with the same sanctions Russia is being hit with. Putin said the pressure was "pushing us to speed up the unification process."

"After all, acting together it’s easier to minimize the damage from illegal sanctions, it’s easier to start production of products that are in demand, develop new competencies and expand cooperation with friendly countries," the Russian leader said.

Under the 1997 agreement, known as the Union State, Russia and Belarus would remain separate sovereign states, but people living in each country would get citizenship for the other and would be able to travel freely.

Russia and Belarus are also stepping up military cooperation, and Putin said this week that he will send nuclear-capable Iskander-M missiles to Belarusian territory. Putin also plans to help Belarus upgrade its fighter jets, so they are capable of carrying nuclear weapons.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...us-unification

[Ravenlocke]

Donetsk shelling victim
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https://twitter.com/ReadovkaWorld/st...30909075267585

Not bringing the following here but it can be seen on Readovka World
Shocking video from murder scene of 10-year-old girl by a French CAESAR howitzer in Donetsk 18+

The body of the child literally collected in parts.

[kfm27917]

TIME IS NOT ON KYIV’S SIDE: TRAINING, WEAPONS, AND ATTRITION IN UKRAINE

https://mwi.usma.edu/time-is-not-on-...on-in-ukraine/

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https://tass.com/politics/1475761?ut...m_social_share

Russia, Mongolia to bolster friendship — Lavrov

The foreign minister emphasized that Russia and Mongolia are united by a "shared history, a combat camaraderie forged and hardened in the fight against Nazism and militarism" and noted the goal of preserving the historical memory "in the hearts of Russian and Mongolian citizens"
© Russian Foreign Ministry Press Service/TASS
ULAANBAATAR, July 5. /TASS/. Russia and Mongolia intend to boost friendly ties, progress is observed in many spheres related to the implementation of joint projects, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said at a meeting with Mongolian President Ukhnaagiin Khurelsukh on Tuesday.

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Russia’s Lavrov arrives in Ulan Bator for working visit
"I would like to convey greetings and best regards from President Putin. He confirms our adherence to the implementation of all the agreements we reached last December. All these agreements are based on our shared aspiration to strengthen our friendship and preserve the historical memory," the Russian top diplomat noted.

He emphasized that Russia and Mongolia are united by a "shared history, a combat camaraderie forged and hardened in the fight against Nazism and militarism" and noted the goal of preserving the historical memory "in the hearts of Russian and Mongolian citizens." "Today, we [with Mongolian Foreign Minister Batmunkh Battsetseg] discussed many directions of our strategic partnership, including trade, investments, ethics, transport, the protection of the environment, humanitarian and educational ties and future cooperation in the sphere of peaceful space exploration," the Russian foreign minister explained. "There is progress in many directions concerning the implementation of joint projects. Trade is recovering well," he added.

In his turn, the Mongolian leader stressed that Russia and Mongolia "have no disagreements" in the political sphere. "Nowadays, we should increase our interaction, <…> boost trade and economic cooperation," the head of state noted. "I think that the historical truth should always remain. All these initiatives and achievements that have been previously attained should continue," he added.

In Ulaanbaatar, Lavrov also met with Mongolian Prime Minister Luvsannamsrain Oyun-Erdene to whom he conveyed best regards from the Russian government and his Russian counterpart Mikhail Mishustin. "Progress is seen along the entire range of directions after many years when the advancement was very insignificant. And today we emphasized the important role of an intergovernmental commission on trade and economic cooperation in translating this progress to the language of practical results," the Russian minister said.

[Vicus]

The agony of the West
by Thierry Meyssan

Sergey Lavrov used to compare the West to a wounded predator. According to him, it should not be provoked because it would be taken by madness and could break everything. It is better to accompany it to the graveyard. The West does not see it that way. Washington and London are leading a crusade against Moscow and Beijing. They roar and are ready for anything. But what can they really do?


The G7 summit in Bavaria and the Nato summit in Madrid were supposed to announce the West’s punishment of the Kremlin for its "special military operation in Ukraine". But, if the image given was that of Western unity, the reality attests to their disconnection from reality, their loss of audience in the world and ultimately the end of their supremacy.

The West has devised a narrative of the Russian "special military operation" in Ukraine that overlooks their own actions since the dissolution of the Soviet Union. They have forgotten their signing of the Charter for European Security (also known as the OSCE Istanbul Declaration) and the way they violated it by making almost all the former members of the Warsaw Pact and some of the new post-Soviet states join one by one. They have forgotten the way they changed the Ukrainian government in 2004 and the coup d’état by which they put Banderist nationalists in power in Kiev in 2014. Having made a clean sweep of the past, they blame Russia for all the ills. They refuse to question their own actions and consider, at the time, they were forced into power. For them, their victories make the Law.

To preserve this imaginary narrative, they have already silenced the Russian media at home.

No matter how much they claim to be "democrats", it is better to censor dissenting voices before lying.

Until now, the United States killed anyone who threatened the supremacy of the dollar. It hanged President Saddam Hussein for refusing it and looted the Iraqi Central Bank. They tortured and lynched the leader Muamar el-Gaddafi who was preparing a new pan-African currency and looted the Libyan Central Bank. The gigantic sums amassed by these oil states disappeared without a trace. The only thing we saw was GI’s taking tens of billions of dollars wrapped in large garbage bags. By excluding Russia from dollar trade, Washington itself has brought about what it so feared: the dollar is no longer the international reference currency.

The G7 tries to organize, at least intellectually, its supremacy [4].. This no longer works. The wind has changed. The four centuries of Western domination are over.

The only possible option for the rescue of Western domination is war. Nato must succeed in destroying Russia militarily as Rome once razed Carthage. But it’s too late: the Russian army has much more sophisticated weapons than the West. It has already experimented with them since 2014 in Syria. It can crush its enemies at any time. President Vladimir Putin exposed the staggering progress of its arsenal to his parliamentarians in 2018 [5]


The Nato summit in Madrid was a nice communication operation [6]. But it was only a swan song. The 32 member states proclaimed their unity with the despair of those who fear to die. As if nothing had happened, they first adopted a strategy to dominate the world for the next ten years, naming China’s "growth" as a concern [7]. In doing so, they admitted that their goal is not to ensure their own security, but to dominate the world. They then opened the accession process for Sweden and Finland and considered approaching China with, as a first step, the possible accession of Japan.

With this, they decided to increase the NATO Rapid Reaction Force from 40,000 to 300,000 men, 7.5 times, and station it on the Russian border. In doing so, they have once again violated their own signature, that of the Charter for Security in Europe, by directly threatening Russia. Russia has no possibility to defend its huge borders and can only ensure its security by ensuring that no foreign force sets up a military base on its borders (scorched earth strategy). Already, the Pentagon is circulating prospective maps of the dismantling of Russia that it hopes to implement.

The former Russian ambassador to NATO and current director of Roscosmos, Dmitry Rogozin, has responded by publishing on his Telegram account the coordinates of the NATO decision-making centers, including the Madrid summit room [9]. Russia has hypersonic launchers, for the moment impossible to intercept, which can carry a nuclear warhead in a few minutes to the NATO headquarters in Brussels and the Pentagon in Washington. To avoid any misunderstanding, Sergei Lavrov specified, alluding to the Straussians, that the martial decisions of the West were not taken by the military, but by the US State Department. It would be the first target.


So the question is: will the West play for all it’s worth? Will they take the risk of a Third World War, even though it has already been lost, just to avoid dying alone?


https://www.voltairenet.org/article217555.html

[kfm27917]

Russia threatens Western decision-making centers

the site provides the strike coordinates:
⠀🇺🇸 38.897542, -77.036505
⠀⠀🇺🇸 38.870960, -77.055935
⠀⠀🇬🇧 51.503049, -0.127727
⠀⠀🇫🇷 48.870433, 2.316842
⠀⠀🇩🇪 52.519903, 13.368921
⠀⠀🇧🇪 50.879986, 4.425771

https://www.voltairenet.org/article217482.html

[Gwin Ru]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
[...]
Johnson loyalists are now resigning like dominoes. Not all of them, but so many now that his situation will very soon be impossible.

Resignations so far:

- Sajid Javid has resigned as health secretary

- Rishi Sunak has stepped down as chancellor

- Trade envoy to Morocco, Andrew Murrison

- Bim Afolami has resigned as Tory vice chair

- Jonathan Gullis has resigned as parliamentary private secretary to the Northern Ireland secretary

- Saqib Bhatti has resigned as parliamentary private secretary to the health secretary

- Nicola Richards has resigned as parliamentary private secretary for the Department for Transport

- Virginia Crosbie has quit her role as parliamentary private secretary at the Welsh Office

[Mashika]

Please stay home bros and sisters, don't come here. It's not what you think it is, please just stay home and be happy, i'm telling you because i know how things are. It will never be the same once you are hit, and you may never go back. Just stop

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=sE30qztWk_g

You will be hit Please just stop, you don't get it

Just please stay home, it's a lie all of it