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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    This is a Ukrainian Telegram account. The translation is below. If there's any truth to this, it could not be more important.

    https://t.me/rezident_ua/17274



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    Our source in the Presidential Office said that at a meeting with Andrzej Duda, Volodymyr Zelensky agreed on the format of the Warsaw Union between Ukraine and Poland, which will be formalized as a confederation of the two countries.

    The Office of the President agreed on several drafts of the upcoming union, and most importantly, a single political/military mechanism for a renewed state. In fact, it will be a new Commonwealth, but in a new format, which will allow Ukraine to instantly join NATO and the EU.

    ~~~

    This was suggested yesterday in a long and excellent new analysis by Simplicius The Thinker:
    (extracted)
    Other new rumors abound, this one from Alistair Crook:
    Zelenskyy is ready to transfer several western regions of the country to Poland in exchange for full-scale military assistance to the Ukraine army in the seizure of Crimea. This was stated by the former intelligence officer of the British intelligence service MI6 Alistair Crook. Ukrainian territory means nothing to Zelenskyy.

    Here’s the quote from Alistair Crooke on Twitter, can’t tell if true or disinformation.

    https://twitter.com/CforCD/status/1646181606313295876


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    Some updates on the situation around the SMO in Ukraine and Maxim Fomin's assassination:

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    Maxim Fomin (Vladlen Tatarsky) assassination - update

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    The organizers of the terrorist attack in St. Petersburg, which killed Vladlen Tatarsky, were Ukrainian special services and their agents, including Russian oppositionists hiding abroad - FSB

    Also, the FSB said that the terrorist attack in St. Petersburg was committed by Trepova as a result of repeated calls by the leaders of the FBK Volkov and Zhdanov to subversive activities in Russia.

    The murder of Vladlen Tatarsky, together with Daria Trepova, was prepared by a citizen of Ukraine Yuriy Denisov, who, through a delivery service through an intermediary, gave her an explosive device, according to the FSB.

    Denisov arrived from Kiev in February through the territory of Latvia to the Moscow region, where he collected information about Tatarsky. After the terrorist attack on April 3, he flew from Russia in transit through Armenia to Turkey. The procedure for putting him on the international wanted list has been initiated.
    Source: https://t.me/infodefENGLAND/5779





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    Zaporozhye nuclear power plant - recorded March 29th, 2023:

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    Zaporozhye Nuclear Power Plant employees ask IAEA head to protect them and the plant from Ukraine:

    On March 29, during his visit to Zaporozhye nuclear power plant, the IAEA head Rafael Grossi talked to employees of the plant. They told him that Ukrainian authorities put constant psychological pressure on them and their loved ones who remained in Ukraine.

    "Please explain to Zelensky that we want to work peacefully and quietly. Stop shelling the nuclear plant, stop intimidating and blackmailing us. We don't want to have a second Chernobyl here," one of the plant's workers told the head of the IAEA
    Source: https://t.me/infodefENGLAND/5803



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    Russia's Permanent Representative to the UN Security Council Vasily Nebenzya at UN Security Council discussing Nord Stream - April 13th, 2023

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    After the UN Security Council today refused to adopt a Russian resolution calling for a commission to investigate the terrorist attack on Nord Streams, Russia's Permanent Representative to the UN Security Council Vasily Nebenzya said, that "..suspicions about who was behind the sabotage are only growing. The U.S. has done everything to avoid an international investigation. First, Washington threatened to blow up the pipeline, then expressed happiness that it had been blown up. The U.S. and its allies are covering their tracks, refusing to respond to facts that are inconvenient for Washington. The detailed facts will still emerge, and all those involved in the sabotage against Nord Stream will be identified and the crime will be uncovered. It cannot be avoided."

    https://t.me/dimsmirnov175/45868
    Source: https://t.me/infodefENGLAND/5794



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    Shoot the Archbishop and burn the church

    This was stated by one of the opponents of the UOC (Ukrainian Orthodox Church), who called himself a pagan (read Satanist), in an interview to "Channel 5".

    💀👹He said that Archbishop Pavel, who was put under house arrest, "should be taken to the woods, brought to his knees, shot in the head, and the video should be broadcast all over the Russian media. There should be no house arrests, no law".
    Source: https://t.me/infodefENGLAND/5780



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    The FSB published the materials of the investigation of the terrorist attack in St. Petersburg, including a photo of Ukrainian citizen Yuriy Denisov.

    Source: https://t.me/infodefENGLAND/5775

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    As pointed out in the interviews between Judge Andrew Napolitano and Scott Ritter (and Douglas Macgregor) a little further back up, the CIA routinely uses officers in a notional journalistic capacity/cover to acquire information: the Russian's know this - the US too. It's also all a part and parcel of the process of spy swapping when one gets caught red-handed, that has gone on, well, for ever really.

    Anyway, here's a response from Maria Zakharova:
    Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova’s answer to a media question on consular access to US citizen Evan Gershkovich detained on charges of espionage

    12 April 2023 20:18

    Question: Will American diplomats have access to journalist Evan Gershkovich in accordance with Russia’s commitments cited by the US?

    Maria Zakharova: The hype raised by US officials and the Western media around Evan Gershkovich is an example of flagrant hypocrisy. Let’s recall that he was caught red-handed and his journalistic status, as it transpires from a series of already established facts, was merely a cover for spying.

    Demanding the immediate release of the American correspondent, the Joe Biden administration and Washington’s propaganda machine have announced that he is being “held illegally.” They are referring to the 1964 Soviet-US Consular Convention that they themselves treat like dirt and violate when Russian citizens are arrested or detained.

    They do not mention that the US Embassy was informed in a timely manner about Gershkovich’s arrest. Meanwhile, in similar cases, our diplomats are informed with delay or not at all, especially if the US Department of Justice or the FBI are in charge of these cases, which is a violation of the consular convention.

    At any rate, access to our compatriots is not granted automatically but often after lengthy approvals. In the process, they cynically ignore the US commitments stemming from this convention.

    As for representatives from the US Embassy in Moscow visiting Gershkovich, this issue is under review and will be resolved in due time in accordance with consular practices and Russian law. The status granted to him by US authorities is of no consequences in this case.

    Appeals by US Secretary of State Antony Blinken and other US officials to their compatriots to “immediately leave Russia” are hypocritical and ambiguous. It is Washington that is hunting Russian citizens that live in the US or in third countries or that are there temporarily because American secret services and law-enforcement bodies suspect them of something.

    Russian citizens that have become an object of this “specific” kind of attention have no chance for a fair trial or protection from the US’s punitive quasi-justice. As a result, they land in prisons with maximum terms. The Foreign Ministry of Russia has every reason to advise our citizens to display more caution when planning trips abroad, especially to unfriendly countries.

    I would like to emphasise that it is pointless and counterproductive to make any attempt to pressure Russian authorities or courts by insisting on some “special attitude” towards US citizens who violate Russian laws. It is time for Washington to realise that we will not tolerate any interference in our internal affairs and will act exclusively in line with our national interests.
    ***

    Here's a historical piece that may interest some of you: Eva Bartlett interviewing Maria Zakharova back in 2019. She, amongst other topics discussed, opens around this very theme of 'interference'.

    Interestingly - and I didn't know this until recently - she also holds a Ph.D which oughtn't to come as too much of a surprise to anyone who listens to her and reads her obviously deep knowledge of history, one of those things that very often leaps out in her press conferences.

    (From Wikipedia: Maria Vladimirovna Zakharova is the Director of the Information and Press Department of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation since 2015. She has a degree of Candidate in Historical Sciences, the Russian equivalent of a PhD)

    It can be enjoyed here:

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    Here is more detail from Judge Napolitano as he talks with Larry Johnson, former CIA Intelligence Officer, on the controversial leaked documents. (22 minutes)

    Quote The “controlled” leak is a coordinated media strategy. The purpose of the leak is to prepare the American public for the crash landing that’s going to take place with respect to US foreign policy.

    Watch the interview below.

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    HUNTED! Russian Sabotage Unit Claims ‘First Kill’ Of Ukraine’s Leopard MBT By Drowning It Into A Swamp
    April 14, 2023

    German Leopard tanks have already begun to operate in the Kherson region, and one of them has already been ‘sunk’ by a Russian sabotage unit, the commander of one of its units told RIA Novosti.

    Here, the shelling of checkpoints by German-origin Leopard tanks was repeatedly recorded. The Russian sabotage detachment captured a Leopard tank. They could not drag it to the rear, so they drowned it in a swamp. The Leopards are here, they are already fighting,” the officer said.

    He added that Russian fighters recorded the use of German anti-aircraft missile systems from the Ukrainian side. Presumably, they were controlled by German mercenaries.

    EurAsian Times cannot independently verify the assertions of the officer who claimed to have ‘sunk’ the German-origin tank.

    Meanwhile, videos on social media show several Ukrainian tanks and armor getting bogged down in the seasonal wet ground, with some of them being hit, indicating Russia might exploit the geography to destroy more of them.

    This also appears to repeat the famous World War 2 episode in the summer of 1941. Nazi Germany’s Operation Barbarossa in June, after piercing 500 miles deep into Russia and being within 200 miles of Moscow, had to suddenly contend with the freezing winter that incapacitated troops and machinery.

    Along with a trail of broken down tanks and heavy vehicles that could not traverse the crude roads in the infamous muddy season of ‘rasputista’ owing to the rain and melting snow in October, the Red Army nearly pushed out Wehrmacht. It was later revealed that the Soviet Union used the time to prepare industrially and train better.

    The same “rasputitsa,” also known in Ukraine by the same name, renders fields and unpaved roads impassable for around a month in the fall and spring. Tanks, troop carriers, and artillery pieces all become mired down in the soggy earth.



    https://eurasiantimes.com/hunted-rus...l-of-ukraines/
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    I'm uncertain when this was recorded [UPDATE with thanks to Ravenlocke : most likely recorded in 2007]. This is an interesting addition to the historical record:

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    ◾️Mihailo Nechay, an "oracle" or teller of prophecies from Ivano-Frankivsk foretold the fall of Ukraine and the extinction of its lineage decades ago exactly like it's happening today.

    ◾️When Ukrainians became two peoples apart fighting each other it will be the end, and the country would be split between the neighbouring nations as in previous history periods.

    ◾️Follow:
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    Source: https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/23689



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    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    I'm uncertain when this was recorded but I'm assuming quite sometime ago. This is an interesting addition to the historical record all the same:

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    ◾️Mihailo Nechay, an "oracle" or teller of prophecies from Ivano-Frankivsk foretold the fall of Ukraine and the extinction of its lineage decades ago exactly like it's happening today.

    ◾️When Ukrainians became two peoples apart fighting each other it will be the end, and the country would be split between the neighbouring nations as in previous history periods.

    ◾️Follow:
    t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses
    Source: https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/23689




    According to this it was 2007

    https://twitter.com/VSlajd/status/1646510934779740160

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    From Wikipedia,

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mykhailo_Nechay


    Mykhaylo Nechay (24 February 1930 - 15 August 2011)[1][2] was a molfar (which Nechay described as meaning oracle, white witch or shaman[3]) during the late 20th century and early 21st century.


    On the morning of 15 July 2011,[7][8][9] Nechay was killed in his house. According to witnesses, the suspected murderer[10] had been trying for two days to get an appointment with molfar. As soon as he got an opportunity to be alone with Nechay, he killed him. On his way out, the murderer told the people outside who were waiting in queue to meet Nechay that he did not wish to be disturbed for a while.[11]

    Police investigations later revealed that the suspect was from the village Verkhniy Yaseniv. On the evening of 15 July 2011, a police officer from the Ivano-Frankivsk police department arrested the suspect in a wooded area near the village Bukovca. More than one hundred law enforcement officers were involved in the search operation.[12] The suspect was a 33-year-old man who appeared to have a mental illness and had previously been convicted of killing a woman. After his release, he was treated for schizophrenia.

    According to preliminary indications, the accused seemed to have killed Nechay because Nechay did not accept or respect the customs and norms of the Christian religion, and had confessed to being a pagan.[13]

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    1943 Katyn Massacre

    The Katyn Massacre:A Re-examination in the Light of Recent Evidence

    Author: Grover Furr - Montclair State University

    Source: https://ojs.library.ubc.ca/index.php.../193976/190041

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    Published in 2020, and with thanks to Vasily Prozorov former SBU officer at UKR Leaks for sourcing this


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    UKR LEAKS EXCLUSIVE: AMERICAN PROFESSOR TALKS ABOUT FASCIST GERMANY'S GUILT FOR THE KATYN SHOOTING

    80 years ago, on April 13, 1943, the government of Nazi Germany announced the discovery of the mass graves of Polish citizens in the Katyn Forest near Smolensk and accused the USSR of killing them. From then on, the international community chose the Nazi version as the main one, because they knew about the impending fall of Berlin and the increasing role of the Soviet Union. The West from the beginning benefited from blaming the USSR, so the anti-communist version became the main one.

    But this version has a lot of inconsistencies. One of the most detailed revelations of the official version is described in the book by American professor Grover Furr entitled The Mystery of the Katyn Execution. Grover spoke about his investigation in an exclusive commentary for UKR LEAKS:

    - The investigation failed to take into account a host of sources in Russian and Polish.

    - The Nazis themselves acknowledged back in 1943 the presence of German-made shell casings at the execution scene.

    - Some of the documents from the "Closed Package No. 1" could have been forgeries.

    - The Polish government in exile collaborated with the Nazis to accuse the USSR of the Katyn shooting.

    Overall, I highly recommend Grover's book to read at this link (https://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/...atyni_2022.pdf). A very insightful analysis, which, of course, has been criticized in the West. And for nothing.

    By the way, I learned about Grover himself when I came across his article (https://ojs.library.ubc.ca/index.php.../193976/190041), also exposing the fabrication of the official version. In it, he recalled how the SBU once published 121 pages of archival documents about victims from the so-called "Ukrainian list." But Furr notes that the people named in these documents were alive after 1940, even though they should have been shot.

    ➡️ Watch it on Rumble (https://rumble.com/v2hyi4k-grover-fu...exclusive.html) or Odysee

    (https://odysee.com/@No_One_Is_Forgot...@ukr_leaks_eng


    Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v2fd2wa
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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    I'm uncertain when this was recorded but I'm assuming quite sometime ago. This is an interesting addition to the historical record all the same:

    Text:
    ◾️Mihailo Nechay, an "oracle" or teller of prophecies from Ivano-Frankivsk foretold the fall of Ukraine and the extinction of its lineage decades ago exactly like it's happening today.

    ◾️When Ukrainians became two peoples apart fighting each other it will be the end, and the country would be split between the neighbouring nations as in previous history periods.

    ◾️Follow:
    t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses
    Source: https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/23689




    According to this it was 2007

    https://twitter.com/VSlajd/status/1646510934779740160

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    • Washington Post RATS OUT Pentagon Docs Leaker To The FBI!:

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    • Zelensky Skimmed $400 Million In U.S. War Funds! Reveals Seymour Hersh:

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