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    The lies continue, it is now obvious beyond any doubt that people are being lied openly and ethics are non-existent in western media

    This is shameful and much more


    It was a lie, she got called on it and pretended not to know, the original tweet is still active. On this other tweet you can see the video that proves Emma Burrows is openly lying and manipulating


    Sad state of journalism
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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    One version of history that reminds us of events in the Ukraine.

    Why is Ukraine the West's Fault?

    Hopefully Malisa will add her perspective and correct anything that may be skewed, though it is pointing the finger at the US and Nato.

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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    Latest from David Paulides talking about the current state of affairs...



    Quote This segment of the news contains information on the following:
    State Dept Press Conference, 2/8/22
    John Kerry

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    BERLIN (Sputnik) - Germany's lethal weapons supplies to Kiev are unacceptable and would not contribute to the constrictive development of bilateral relations between Russia and Germany, Russian Ambassador to Berlin Sergey Nechaev said.

    "The country's leading politicians, including Chancellor [Olaf Scholz] and German Foreign Minister [Annalena Baerbock], share the understanding that it is unacceptable to supply lethal weapons to Ukraine, given that it would in no way facilitate either the settlement process or the constructive development of Russian-German relations," Nechaev said.

    In recent weeks, Kiev has repeatedly criticized Berlin over its refusal to provide direct military assistance to Ukraine as well as hindering arms deliveries by NATO allies. Scholz dismissed the criticism on Monday, saying that Germany would not allow weapons export to crisis regions, noting that Berlin seeks to support Ukraine economically, rather than militarily.

    Russia firmly denies having any intention to escalate the situation in Ukraine and has repeatedly stated that rising fears of Russia's alleged incursion into Ukraine are used as a pretext for advancing NATO's military presence in Eastern Europe. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has said that Moscow does not incite tensions around Ukraine, with the turmoil being deliberately promoted by the West to cover Kiev's line to sabotage the Minsk agreements on Donbas.


    https://sputniknews.com/20220211/rus...092930462.html

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    • ‘That’s a World War’: Biden Warns Americans to Flee Ukraine Ahead of Potential War:

    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/gbZRHYPnKZ8r
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    So the Western MSM know for sure the invasion will start in 4 days on February 16th ...

    https://www-anti--spiegel-ru.transla..._x_tr_pto=wapp

    Quote “In 4 days there will be war” – US names date for Russian attack on Ukraine
    The war propaganda in the West knows no stopping. For months, a date for the Russian attack on Ukraine has been announced almost every week. Now it should be February 16th.

    What politicians and the media do in the West is, by definition, war propaganda. For months, a date for the Russian attack on Ukraine has been announced almost weekly, without the attack ever having happened. The media hysteria is intended to fuel anti-Russian sentiment and gives the lie to Western narratives of being interested in peace. Those who are interested in peace de-escalate - both through deeds and verbally. The West is doing the opposite, sending more and more arms to Ukraine, turning down Russia's offers of talks, and waging anti-Russian media campaign after anti-Russian campaign.

    USA: Russian attack on February 16

    Now the US has leaked to the media that on Friday it warned its allies of a February 16 Russian attack. The amount of information leaked to the media shows that the reports should get to the media. The warnings from the USA also have consequences, as reports have been mounting since Saturday that more and more states are asking their citizens to leave Ukraine as quickly as possible.

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    US nuclear submarine approached the shores of Russia
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    Knowing what we know, or at least knowing what we think we know about the way the world is really run - is it really east v west/west v east? I ask you!
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    Quote Posted by Mare (here)
    Knowing what we know, or at least knowing what we think we know about the way the world is really run - is it really east v west/west v east? I ask you!
    As my grand father used to say: "If you go too far into the east, you eventually reach the west"
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    This might make Malisa laugh. (It's a real headline)


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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    This might make Malisa laugh. (It's a real headline)







    --

    A Ukrainian joke:
    -Why is our army attacking Donbass?
    -Because the Russian army invaded there.
    -Why is our army not attacking Crimea?
    -Because the Russian army is really there.

    - USA: Have you seen Russia invade Ukraine?
    - World: No
    - USA: You're welcome

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    Quote Posted by Ewan (here)
    One version of history that reminds us of events in the Ukraine.

    Why is Ukraine the West's Fault?

    Hopefully Malisa will add her perspective and correct anything that may be skewed, though it is pointing the finger at the US and Nato.
    That was very accurate. Some notes below

    1. Russia’s involvement in Donbass was not high back in 2014, it was mostly volunteers and the people born on those regions fighting against the coup, but this wasn’t very well known back then in 2015, no information was truly available to the outside world. There were people fighting along the separatists (Ukranian born soldiers and civilians) that came from lots of other countries to support, but small numbers only, the majority of the separatists were and are still Ukrainian born citizens. In other words if Russia had truly helped we would have a similar situation as in Crimea right now, but we don't because it was 'their fight for independence', not Russia's

    It has always been a lie that Russia invaded Donbass, it had been all along Ukranian born citizens that happen to speak Russian, lots of people speak Russian in Ukraine, but this fact was used to lie and say "Russian invaded Donbass"

    And when the US media says "go back home" to the Russian army, they are actually talking to the Donbass army from the separatists, but they are home, they are Ukranian. They are not Russian born at all. The media is just lying openly and in a very dirty way because they know no one in the west, from their viewers will ever look into it and figure out the lie

    2. Greater Russia starts with the Belarus agreement for the Union State and then with the Eurasian Union. Both are very much not important at this stage, but could turn into “Greater Russia” as was called on that video if the conditions allow or require

    The Union State
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_State

    The Eurasian Union
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasian_Economic_Union

    3. Kazakhstan is a separate state but they would be interested in a ‘greater Russia’ union, that’s why the failed coup happened. West tried to prevent a government that would be partial to Russia, or that would look into creating an union to become stronger. And you know there is the CSTO which acted quickly and shutdown the coup.

    Merging the CSTO countries with the Eurasian or the Union State would definitely create the ‘Greater Russia’ some people talk about


    4. Donbass regions want to join Russia after they become separate independent states, but this may not happen at all if the Minsk agreements are truly implemented. Ukraine refuses to implement the Minsk Agreements, why? It would benefit Ukraine in the end. It doesn't look like the Ukraine government is able to chose their path at all, so they are shooting themselves in the foot forcefully by West mandate

    At this point it looks more like the west governments are pushing hard for these ex-soviet states to feel in danger and re-create the union, only this time it would not be "soviet" but instead "Greater Russia"

    It would for sure cause a massive arms sales from the US into European countries, maybe that's the final goal, to put half the world against the other half and cause crisis all over so that they can come up as "saviors" and sell a lot of armament because of the "any day now" fake threat

    The west is running out of countries to invade.. The money needs to keep flowing and NATO is running out of excuses to keep controlling Europe. A new cold war would solve those problems

    Just saying


    --

    This also happened

    Ukraine’s US lobbying army exposed
    https://www.rt.com/russia/549190-ukr...ess-americans/

    The tremendous amount of propaganda on western media is killing Ukraine, they are finally getting tired and looking at what's truly happening, they are very much being used and they know it, but they are way too deep into the mud by now, it will be hard to find a way out

    Ukraine’s president asks West to share evidence of alleged Russian invasion
    https://www.rt.com/russia/549180-zel...vasion-russia/
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    • Trump Rips Biden On Ukraine: ‘This Should Have Never Happened’:
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    Mainstream Press Runs Fake Headline that Could’ve Kicked Off WWIII
    February 12, 2022
    By Matt Agorist

    All too often, the American citizens and the rest of the world at large put so much faith in mainstream media that they are led into dangerous and deadly situations — based entirely on lies. One glaring and extremely relevant instance is how the corporate media became a parroting organization for the lies leading up to the invasion of Iraq in 2003.

    “Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised,” then-president George Bush asserted in a public address on March 17, 2003. “This regime has already used weapons of mass destruction against Iraq’s neighbors and against Iraq’s people.”

    Bush’s assertions were questioned by not only human rights experts, but by U.N. weapons inspectors and countless others — so shortly after the U.S. invaded the sovereign nation, the New York Times took up the slack to fill in the appropriate casus belli.

    Nearly two decades after hundreds of thousands of innocent people were slaughtered in the conflict created by the United States, the world knows — there were never any weapons of mass destruction.

    While the US often invents fake stories to convince the population to support its wars for profit, its media also parrots other dangerous fake news stories that have potential for massive and catastrophic results.

    Case in point: 'Live: Russia invades Ukraine.'Bloomberg Headline Feb. 4, 2022.

    Given the current climate of tension between Ukraine, Russia and the United States, and the Pentagon’s promise to defend the corrupt state of Ukraine with acts of war, this headline, which ran on Bloomberg — for 30 minutes — had the potential for absolute devastation.

    CONTINUE: https://www.activistpost.com/2022/02...one-cares.html
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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    US/UK Go Into Panic over Ukraine War. Russia Conducts Exercises in Belarus. Zelensky Calls for Calm


    The window is closing and i believe the US/UK are so hard pushing this because there's something they have not said so far about their own situation. They indeed desperately need to destabilize Europe and Asia.

    The question is, what's going on right now, on the US/UK side, they are not telling anyone?

    The coup in Kazakhstan failed badly, then immediately we see this media show about Ukraine 'imminent invasion'? They need a way in to destroy the progress and retain control, so it seems. And they are now desperate and in a terrible urge to cause a crisis very soon. I have never seen such desperate attempt to cause harm in this way. The western governments are hiding something

    First:

    The western media keeps talking about the 100+ thousand soldiers at the Ukraine border, but with no evidence of any of it

    They fail to mention that soldiers in Russia are distributed in such a way that they are not 'grouped' enough to be able at all to invade anyone, ever

    They also fail to mention exactly where these soldiers are

    And last, they don't mention where the Ukrainian soldiers are, any map they show is only on the Russian side, ask yourself why

    Second:
    It does look like the 'new cold war' is being precipitated by the US, possibly because they have lost a big place in the world as the leading/controlling country

    So now they need to impose in a hard way, and if Ukraine has to go down in order to save the US, they that's how it will happen

    Questions must be asked

    ETA:

    Need to add that the urgency from the US to have the call with Biden/Putin this weekend is suspicious

    To me, it looks like "We need to say 'we tried to talk to them but they still went and attacked Ukraine', we tried to prevent it, but now we have to act and save those poor people"

    It goes on those lines since they already announced the date of the planned 'invasion' that not even the Ukrainian president knew about

    You have to wonder why a country on the other side of the world knows the date when Ukraine will be invade by Russia, but the actual 'president' of Ukraine is left out of the intelligence and conversation before it was announced to the entire world

    This is a sham and every government knows it, they are just trapped so much into the lie that they can't do much about it, even if they will be hurt by this entire fake issue and war

    What do they know they are not sharing, not even with the Ukraine government? The sacrificial lamb has been chosen?

    Australia shuts down Kiev embassy
    Canberra says the staff of its embassy in Ukraine were ordered to leave the capital in a “temporary” move

    https://www.rt.com/russia/549194-aus...ry-suspension/
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    EU banks told to prepare for Russian attacks
    https://www.rt.com/russia/549025-eu-...epare-attacks/

    Quote Moscow may sponsor hackers to target financial institutions, European Central Bank warns
    No evidence needed, "may" is the keyword

    Quote The warning comes as Russia stands accused of placing more than 100,000 soldiers near its border with Ukraine, with some believing this is a sign of an impending military incursion.
    Around 9 years of the same lie seems to never get old




    I'm sorry but this is beyond hilarious now :D
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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    It has been determined by logistical and advance satellite and ground intel that the invasion of Ukraine will happen yesterday at -1 pm

    There are -100 thousand soldiers somewhere, no one knows where, but certainly there are at least a -100 thousands of them, probably at home, but who knows..
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    This may mean nothing (and I'm not qualified to judge!) — but it does seem a little strange that Russia would be evacuating their own Kiev embassy if nothing at all was going to happen.

    https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status...57600750866432

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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    I sense that Russia is exasperated, it seems the Pentagon people are intent on antagonizing Russia and the Russophobes' are in ascendancy - they really could do the unthinkable, the insane sick fools

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    Why are USA and Uk puppets promoting a potential ‘hornets nest’ - follow the money…
    This is inexcusable, the folk in UK are being duped into a Schwab Economic fiasco, the tentacles are everywhere. Look at the beleaguered ‘Turdo’ who sold it’s soul years ago to the WEF.
    Schwab’s WEF is stirring the pot continuously, as they know we are onto them. Globally. Corruption beyond belief in most countries. Thank goodness for these brave folk all over the world who are standing up to evil, even if they don’t know the full scenario. Let’s hope there is a massive momentum in the truth at last 🤞🤞🤞🤞
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