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    Trump interview video remember me about short span attention...


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    I remember the "police" action against Gadhafi/Libya executed by USA/NATO, result of that came the arsenal for

    "invented" ISIS... and the next chaos for middle orient...

    In his electoral campaign Trump pay many theaters for the people to see free this film:

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13_Hou...rs_of_Benghazi


    you see the "left" hand from CIA, Oburm Bama, and high satanic which everywhere...



    Today you see a fantastic arsenal "left" to Taliban's...you don't need to be a rocket scientist to imagine what comes next...

    "Insurrections" in all Russian borders countries...

    A blind can see what's coming next...

    Already happens in Kajasthan ...
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    Luhansk: Withdrawal of Western Observers From Donbass is Preparation for ‘Large-Scale Provocation’
    https://sputniknews.com/20220213/lug...092985600.html


    Quote "The recall of representatives by the European Union, the United States, and the United Kingdom from the OSCE SMM is a conscious step by the West to block the flow of official information from Ukraine, and the military danger has nothing to do with it. This is preparations for some kind of a large-scale provocation," Miroshnik said.

    Clearly the preparations for the classic US style false flag are almost complete. Why remove the observers? Supposedly because of danger, but nothing has happened at all that would put them in danger, and they were there in 2014/2015 when the battle was ongoing. It seems very suspicious to remove them now when no single bullet has been shot, and when they were in the middle of a battle back then with no problem. This is just an excuse to cut out the world from knowing what's truly happening inside Donbass
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    On August 23, 1989, about 2 million people from Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania formed a human chain that united all 3 countries to show the world their desire to escape the Soviet Union and Communism. They maintained that Communism brought only poverty and suffering. This powerful display of solidarity stretched for over 600 KM.


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    I tried to embed this video: https://odysee.com/@RonPaul:d/ukrain...PmoBnbKKN3PK7V using the option.

    won't let me I tried many different ways.
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    Quote Posted by rgray222 (here)
    On August 23, 1989, about 2 million people from Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania formed a human chain that united all 3 countries to show the world their desire to escape the Soviet Union and Communism. They maintained that Communism brought only poverty and suffering. This powerful display of solidarity stretched for over 600 KM.




    The Baltic Way or Baltic Chain (also Chain of Freedom;[1] Estonian: Balti kett; Latvian: Baltijas ceļš; Lithuanian: Baltijos kelias; Russian: Балтийский путь Baltiysky put) was a peaceful political demonstration that occurred on 23 August 1989. Approximately two million people joined their hands to form a human chain spanning 675.5 kilometres (419.7 mi) across the three Baltic states of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, which at the time were constituent republics of the Soviet Union.

    The demonstration originated in "Black Ribbon Day" protests held in the western cities in the 1980s. It marked the 50th anniversary of the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany. The pact and its secret protocols divided Eastern Europe into spheres of influence and led to the occupation of the Baltic states in 1940. The event was organised by Baltic pro-independence movements: Rahvarinne of Estonia, the Tautas fronte of Latvia, and Sąjūdis of Lithuania. The protest was designed to draw global attention by demonstrating a popular desire for independence and showcasing solidarity among the three nations. It has been described as an effective publicity campaign, and an emotionally captivating and visually stunning scene.[2][3] The event presented an opportunity for the Baltic activists to publicise the Soviet rule and position the question of Baltic independence not only as a political matter, but also as a moral issue. The Soviet authorities responded to the event with intense rhetoric,[2] but failed to take any constructive actions that could bridge the widening gap between the Baltic republics and the rest of the Soviet Union. After seven months of the protest, Lithuania became the first Soviet republic to declare independence.

    After the Revolutions of 1989, 23 August has become an official remembrance day both in the Baltic countries, in the European Union and in other countries, known as the Black Ribbon Day or as the European Day of Remembrance for Victims of Stalinism and Nazism.








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    Quote Posted by rgray222 (here)
    On August 23, 1989, about 2 million people from Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania formed a human chain that united all 3 countries to show the world their desire to escape the Soviet Union and Communism. They maintained that Communism brought only poverty and suffering. This powerful display of solidarity stretched for over 600 KM.

    Any pictures of a young Victoria Nuland handing out cookies?

    Irony is if this happened right now inside the belly of the empire, with of protestors ringed outside Whitehouse & Pentagon, they'd be smeared "Russians" and more warmongering & bombs would be pumped into Ukraine

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    People from Donbass should try this, maybe they will finally have a voice that the west can't silence. Just kidding, they can't, the Ukrainian snipers would kill them for fun, not even a line of kids in front of the adults would stop them, and that's proven fact

    It would be great if the UN and associates would go through Donbass and make a census/referendum and ask the people there why they want to leave the Ukrainian state. That would be great, but of course the wished of those people are ignored, as we can see by the lack of any reports on who are the people living in Donbass and why are they trying to break apart into separate states since 2014

    Unless people are so naive that when they call Ukranian born citizens in Donbass "Russian invaders" they truly think people born in Russia truly came and took over homes and invaded the regions

    I supposed Russia moved millions of people into Donbass without anyone noticing, between 2014/2015, and the previous original people living in Donbass just disappeared one day.

    Maybe it's "Invasion of Russian Body Snatchers" conspiracy

    "One day they were Ukranian citizens, then the Nazi coup happened, but that wasn't the worse thing! Through the night, the sleeping bodies or the entire Donbass population were snatched by Russian spies! Millions of people were suddenly replaced by Russian invaders"



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    On August 23, 1989, about 2 million people from Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania formed a human chain that united all 3 countries to show the world their desire to escape the Soviet Union and Communism. They maintained that Communism brought only poverty and suffering. This powerful display of solidarity stretched for over 600 KM.

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    Russian Military Drills Are Ending — Russian MOD



    Russia said on Tuesday some of its military units were returning to their bases after exercises near Ukraine, following days of U.S. and British warnings that Moscow might invade its neighbour at any time.

    It was not clear how many units were being withdrawn, and by what distance, after a build-up of an estimated 130,000 Russian troops to the north, east and south of Ukraine
    Source: https://www.today.ng/news/world/russ...ng-base-410915

    Dow futures jump more than 300 points as Russia pulls back some troops from Ukraine border
    Source: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/14/stoc...lose-news.html

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    BREAKING: Putin is Ready to Negotiate on Ukraine. Some Troops Returning to Bases
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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    At last, common sense prevails, there was no threat, just warmongering hype from USA as usual.
    There were always exercises everywhere, how near is ‘near’? 200kms+ is surely acceptable for a country to do what it wants in its own boundaries.
    Sadly, UK involved. Why can’t we just keep our noses out of the USA gutter pot-stirrings?
    Diversionary tactics in the MSM against Truths coming out at ‘home’? Dodgy President, weird financial goings-on?
    Fed up with ‘fly-paper’ tactics, some of us won’t adhere to their rhetoric.
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    • An Off-Ramp from War? Russia Says It Pulled Back Some Troops from Ukraine Border as Talks Continue:

    How the assumed "more intelligent" part of the leftist media talks about the ~"pending war" that could trigger not only WW3 WW4 but also create a global energy crisis all in favor for the Dystopian (not so) "Great" Reset Agenda2030! ... you be the judge if they are truly honest & balanced or play in to the weapons if mass distraction to divert the attention away from the world-wide protests against "rule by decree" tyranny!
    • Tucker: Does Biden Want War?

    • (Stupid question as Biden is just a WEF Agenda2030 Puppet).
    I commented this on Tuckers video: Stupid question as Biden is just a WEF Agenda2030 "The great Reset" Puppet ... ~"pending war" that could trigger not only WW4 (WW3 = pl@ndemic final stage!) but also create a global energy crisis all in favor for the Dystopian (not so) "Great" Reset Agenda2030! ... you be the judge if the leftists mass media are truly honest & balanced or play in to the weapons if mass distraction to divert the attention away from the world-wide protests against "rule by decree" tyranny! ... Time to #MandateFreedom!


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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    The announcement that the troops would return after the drill was actually made a few days ago. This is just the usual media lying and manipulating to make it seem like somehow the west has turned things around and forced the "invading" troops to leave

    In fact, even now they are still manipulating the truth, see here:
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60386141
    Quote Ukraine's Foreign Minister Dymytro Kuleba said he would believe the withdrawal when he sees it but "we have managed together with our partners to deter Russia from any further escalation".
    Pure manipulation of the truth

    And on 20 February they will claim that Russia had to leave Belarus due to pressure, even if everybody knows that's the final day of the Russia-Belarus drills.

    The web is full of the same 'article' by now, just repeating the same lies over and over non stop

    "US urges its citizens to leave Belarus"
    https://7news.com.au/news/conflict/u...arus-c-5704557
    Quote The advisory warned the situation in Belarus was "unpredictable" due to an increase in unusual and concerning Russian military activity near the border with Ukraine
    There is nothing unpredictable about military drills that happen constantly every year and that are well documented and everybody knows when those would start and end, but that doesn't the stop the US to lie openly

    If you search '"US urges its citizens to leave Belarus" most every article returned has the exact same text, word by word, regardless of site you are reading it on
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    recent update:

    https://twitter.com/disclosetv/statu...23721948585987
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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    I have my doubts about Russia actually invading Ukraine, but maybe more of a "Let's see how the Biden administration would respond". Putin may be a crazed dictator, but I believe that he is smart enough to not destabilize the world even further during a time of great instability from the plandemic. This whole ordeal has shown Russia that they can do quite a lot before the Biden administration bites back.

    Maybe Biden will only allow small Russian military operations in Ukraine, who knows.

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    While we are all distracted by potential war the satanists are arranging a shift in power from national governments to the WHO and world economic forum in relation to future plandemics, climate change and digital currencies.

    As Governments ease off on the mandates people will go home and forget the evil still lurking in the background until next time.

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    Another perspective...


    The Crisis in Ukraine Is Not About Ukraine. It's About Germany


    “The primordial interest of the United States, over which for centuries we have fought wars– the First, the Second and Cold Wars– has been the relationship between Germany and Russia, because united there, they’re the only force that could threaten us. And to make sure that that doesn’t happen.” George Friedman, STRATFOR CEO at The Chicago Council on Foreign Affairs.



    The Ukrainian crisis has nothing to do with Ukraine. It’s about Germany and, in particular, a pipeline that connects Germany to Russia called Nord Stream 2. Washington sees the pipeline as a threat to its primacy in Europe and has tried to sabotage the project at every turn. Even so, Nord Stream has pushed ahead and is now fully-operational and ready-to-go. Once German regulators provide the final certification, the gas deliveries will begin. German homeowners and businesses will have a reliable source of clean and inexpensive energy while Russia will see a significant boost to their gas revenues. It’s a win-win situation for both parties.


    The US Foreign Policy establishment is not happy about these developments. They don’t want Germany to become more dependent on Russian gas because commerce builds trust and trust leads to the expansion of trade. As relations grow warmer, more trade barriers are lifted, regulations are eased, travel and tourism increase, and a new security architecture evolves. In a world where Germany and Russia are friends and trading partners, there is no need for US military bases, no need for expensive US-made weapons and missile systems, and no need for NATO. There’s also no need to transact energy deals in US Dollars or to stockpile US Treasuries to balance accounts. Transactions between business partners can be conducted in their own currencies which is bound to precipitate a sharp decline in the value of the dollar and a dramatic shift in economic power. This is why the Biden administration opposes Nord Stream. It’s not just a pipeline, it’s a window into the future; a future in which Europe and Asia are drawn closer together into a massive free trade zone that increases their mutual power and prosperity while leaving the US on the outside looking in. Warmer relations between Germany and Russia signal an end to the “unipolar” world order the US has overseen for the last 75 years. A German-Russo alliance threatens to hasten the decline of the Superpower that is presently inching closer to the abyss. This is why Washington is determined to do everything it can to sabotage Nord Stream and keep Germany within its orbit. It’s a matter of survival.

    That’s where Ukraine comes into the picture. Ukraine is Washington’s ‘weapon of choice’ for torpedoing Nord Stream and putting a wedge between Germany and Russia. The strategy is taken from page one of the US Foreign Policy Handbook under the rubric: Divide and Rule. Washington needs to create the perception that Russia poses a security threat to Europe. That’s the goal. They need to show that Putin is a bloodthirsty aggressor with a hair-trigger temper who cannot be trusted. To that end, the media has been given the assignment of reiterating over and over again, “Russia is planning to invade Ukraine.” What’s left unsaid is that Russia has not invaded any country since the dissolution of the Soviet Union, and that the US has invaded or toppled regimes in more than 50 countries in the same period of time, and that the US maintains over 800 military bases in countries around the world. None of this is reported by the media, instead the focus is on “evil Putin” who has amassed an estimated 100,000 troops along the Ukrainian border threatening to plunge all of Europe into another bloody war.


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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    Quote Posted by Vicus (here)
    Another perspective...


    The Crisis in Ukraine Is Not About Ukraine. It's About Germany


    “The primordial interest of the United States, over which for centuries we have fought wars– the First, the Second and Cold Wars– has been the relationship between Germany and Russia, because united there, they’re the only force that could threaten us. And to make sure that that doesn’t happen.” George Friedman, STRATFOR CEO at The Chicago Council on Foreign Affairs.



    The Ukrainian crisis has nothing to do with Ukraine. It’s about Germany and, in particular, a pipeline that connects Germany to Russia called Nord Stream 2. Washington sees the pipeline as a threat to its primacy in Europe and has tried to sabotage the project at every turn. Even so, Nord Stream has pushed ahead and is now fully-operational and ready-to-go. Once German regulators provide the final certification, the gas deliveries will begin. German homeowners and businesses will have a reliable source of clean and inexpensive energy while Russia will see a significant boost to their gas revenues. It’s a win-win situation for both parties.


    The US Foreign Policy establishment is not happy about these developments. They don’t want Germany to become more dependent on Russian gas because commerce builds trust and trust leads to the expansion of trade. As relations grow warmer, more trade barriers are lifted, regulations are eased, travel and tourism increase, and a new security architecture evolves. In a world where Germany and Russia are friends and trading partners, there is no need for US military bases, no need for expensive US-made weapons and missile systems, and no need for NATO. There’s also no need to transact energy deals in US Dollars or to stockpile US Treasuries to balance accounts. Transactions between business partners can be conducted in their own currencies which is bound to precipitate a sharp decline in the value of the dollar and a dramatic shift in economic power. This is why the Biden administration opposes Nord Stream. It’s not just a pipeline, it’s a window into the future; a future in which Europe and Asia are drawn closer together into a massive free trade zone that increases their mutual power and prosperity while leaving the US on the outside looking in. Warmer relations between Germany and Russia signal an end to the “unipolar” world order the US has overseen for the last 75 years. A German-Russo alliance threatens to hasten the decline of the Superpower that is presently inching closer to the abyss. This is why Washington is determined to do everything it can to sabotage Nord Stream and keep Germany within its orbit. It’s a matter of survival.

    That’s where Ukraine comes into the picture. Ukraine is Washington’s ‘weapon of choice’ for torpedoing Nord Stream and putting a wedge between Germany and Russia. The strategy is taken from page one of the US Foreign Policy Handbook under the rubric: Divide and Rule. Washington needs to create the perception that Russia poses a security threat to Europe. That’s the goal. They need to show that Putin is a bloodthirsty aggressor with a hair-trigger temper who cannot be trusted. To that end, the media has been given the assignment of reiterating over and over again, “Russia is planning to invade Ukraine.” What’s left unsaid is that Russia has not invaded any country since the dissolution of the Soviet Union, and that the US has invaded or toppled regimes in more than 50 countries in the same period of time, and that the US maintains over 800 military bases in countries around the world. None of this is reported by the media, instead the focus is on “evil Putin” who has amassed an estimated 100,000 troops along the Ukrainian border threatening to plunge all of Europe into another bloody war.


    continue... https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/the-cri...about-germany/
    Exactly that. Mr Friedman told it all years ago openly.


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    Live Stream from Kiev as the Ukraines day of Unity happens.

    No Russian invasion yet, i wonder who got it purposely wrong



    It does look like no one cares, and they go around they normal life. First time we see reality in Ukraine, as opposed to what some well known war mongers do 24/7

    I'm sad that we have to wait for another day until the US finalizes their false flag event

    A multitude of people in Ukraine didn't congregate to complain about Russian


    And look at this poor guy, he could not take the shot for the news paper so he would get paid, so he had to call people to show and gather closely to hide the missing people and make a good enough picture for propaganda


    Then we see that girl with blue pants behind the red jacket guy, the one with the shot from below that will allow to hide the actual numbers because of the camera perspective lmao!

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