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    Exclamation Marquis De Sade: Supreme Council Member of The Illuminati

    There is evidence that the Illuminati group was formulated by the Supreme Council. They are the ones that implemented the Principles, policies, etc.

    Everyone knows that Adam Weishaupt is the founder and the first gang leader of the Illuminati:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Weishaupt

    In fact, he was just the leader at the front desk. The real boss is the "Supreme Council". Like a company, "the highest "Committee" is the company’s board of directors. Weishaupt was the company’s general manager, concrete implementation of the board of directors' decisions.

    It's members included five people:

    1. Adam Weishaupt

    2. French nobleman Marquis de Sade (Marquis de Sade),

    3. Sir Francis Dashwood (founder of the 'Hellfire Club')

    4. Kabbalistic scholar of Esotericism Jacob Frank (aka ' Sabbatai Zevi')

    5. Mayer Rothschild, representative of the Bankers Group.

    De Sade's books are pure filth and evil but they also have 'hints' about how this group views humanity. Here are some excerpts from some of his works. Some of them have already come to pass:

    quote:

    "The most outstanding service one could do to some young person would then be to pluck out of him all the weeds of virtue Nature or education might have sown in his soul."

    quote:

    "The embryo is to be considered the woman’s exclusive property; as the sole owner of this fruit rather jestingly called precious, she can dispose of it as she likes. She can destroy it in the depths of her womb if it proves a nuisance to her. Or after it ripens and is born, if she is for any reason displeased with it or irked at having produced it, she can destroy it then; whatever the circumstances, infanticide is her sacred right."

    quote:

    "Forbid them marriage, authorize sodomy, prohibit them worship of any sort, and you will soon have them reduced to the abjection your policy demands."

    quote:

    "A vital chapter in the policy followed by all those at the head of any government is to foment and promote the extremest degree of corruption in the citizenry; so long as the subject wastes away body and soul in the delights of gangrenous, enfeebling debauchery, he does not feel the weight of his irons, and you can heap fresh ones upon him without his even noticing.

    The true essence of statecraft is thus to multiply a hundredfold every possible means to debilitate and pervert the people. Lots of shows, much pomp and display, cabarets, brothels without number, a general amnesty for all crimes committed in debauchery: those are the expedients for bringing the plebeians to heel. O you who ambition to rule over them, beware of virtue within the frontiers of your empire, only let virtue reign and your peoples will open their eyes, and your thrones, reposing as they do upon nothing but vice, will be very speedily overthrown; the free man’s awakening will be cruel for the despots, and the day he ceases to fritter his leisure away in vices he’ll start to strive for domination like yourselves."

    quote:

    "Instead of morality and religion, which will be stricken from the curriculum, the pure and unadulterated principles of Nature (science) will be taught in the public schools;"

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    "Christianity will be rigorously banished out of the land; none but libertine rites and feasts will ever be celebrated in France. I’ll be rid of Christianity, I say: but not of religion, this I intend to retain, for its chains are useful to the preservation of order as I proved to you a moment ago. The object of worship doesn’t matter in the slightest, the thing that counts is clergy; but I’d rather see the dagger of superstition wielded by the priests of Venus than by the admirers of Mary."

    quote:

    "The common herd will be kept in a state of subservience, of prostrate bondage, which will render them powerless even to strike for, let alone to attain to, domination, or to encroach upon or debase the prerogatives of the rich. Tied to the glebe as in olden days, the people will be held like any other property, and, like it, will be subject to all the various mutations of value and ownership. Only the people will be liable to punishment at the hands of the law, and it will be inflicted for the most trifling offenses.

    The commoner’s proprietor will have the right of life or death over him and his family, and neither his complaints nor his recriminations will ever receive hearing. Never will free schools be available to him: tilling the soil does not require knowledge, the blindfold of ignorance is made for the peasant’s eyes, showing him the light is always a risky business. The first individual, regardless of his class, who were to think to stir up the people or to invite them to break their chains will be thrown to wild beasts and eaten alive."

    quote:

    "In every town and city of the land there shall be opened public houses containing specimens of both sexes, the number of these houses to be proportional to the population of the district or agglomeration, there being at least one male and one female establishment per every thousand inhabitants; the personnel of each shall be three hundred individuals, who will begin their internment at the age of twelve and not retire from service before twenty-five. These establishments will be subsidized by the government; only members of the free class will have the right of entrance and they will of course be empowered to do in these places whatever they please."

    quote:

    "Everything denominated crime of libertinage at present, to wit: murder in debauch, incest, rape, sodomy, adultery, etc., will be reprehensible only if committed by a member of the slave castes."

    quote:

    "Prizes shall be awarded to the most celebrated courtesans in the bawdy houses, likewise to the young boys there who have got themselves a name in the art of pleasing. Similarly, bonuses and stipends shall be granted to each inventor of a new lubricity, to every author of cynical books, to all libertines recognized as professed in their order."

    quote:

    "The slave class shall exist as did the Helots in ancient Lacedaemon. There being no difference whatsoever between the human slave and the brute beast, why should you punish the murderer of the one more than the murderer of the other?"

    - - -

    - from Juliette by Marquis De Sade:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juliette_(novel))
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    Default Re: Marquis De Sade: Supreme Council Member of The Illuminati

    Demoralization, trans-humanism, domination etc. - already back then, but similar policies go back much further.
    Most of the prophecies say that the dark agenda will fall and the good will prevail, where the first love will be the love for the Creation and the love for the "other" will be the same if not better than the love of self.
    But I believe a great purge will have to appear before that.
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    Default Re: Marquis De Sade: Supreme Council Member of The Illuminati

    Quote Posted by EnergyGem (here)
    There is evidence that the Illuminati group was formulated by the Supreme Council. They are the ones that implemented the Principles, policies, etc.

    Everyone knows that Adam Weishaupt is the founder and the first gang leader of the Illuminati:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Weishaupt

    In fact, he was just the leader at the front desk. The real boss is the "Supreme Council". Like a company, "the highest "Committee" is the company’s board of directors. Weishaupt was the company’s general manager, concrete implementation of the board of directors' decisions.

    It's members included five people:

    1. Adam Weishaupt

    2. French nobleman Marquis de Sade (Marquis de Sade),

    3. Sir Francis Dashwood (founder of the 'Hellfire Club')

    4. Kabbalistic scholar of Esotericism Jacob Frank (aka ' Sabbatai Zevi')

    5. Mayer Rothschild, representative of the Bankers Group.
    I'd not made the connection before but those excerpts do suggest A mind sympathetic to, if not conversant with, the twisted teachings of Sabbataen Frankism.

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    Default Re: Marquis De Sade: Supreme Council Member of The Illuminati

    Quote Posted by EnergyGem (here)
    There is evidence that
    And where is that evidence??? Where in this post do you point to any actual point to any kind of evidence that the Marquis was a member of the Bavarian Illuminati??? Or Jacob Rothschild??? Just because someone wrote a post on the internet that lists five names from the "Supreme Council" without any actual evidence to back it up, that is not in and of itself evidence, and you can probably bet that this information came from their imagination and is designed either as click-bait or to fulfill their attention starved ego.

    There are a lot of people doing real work in the field of conspiracy, looking at real evidence and processing the information rationally to expose real criminality in the world. Unfortunately, many people refuse to take there work seriously because they are typecast as being fruitcakes and nutjobs, and it is posts like this, that make colorful claims without any real evidence, that put the fruit and nuts into the conspiracy field.


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    Marquis De Sade is terrible, disgusting. I went to a theater once, the play was De Sade's, at some point everybody was naked into some sort of theatrical orgy (they call that **** ART), also the character had friend in the high state office, which very often came to De Sade for orgies and stuffs related.. really stupid play, I wasn't expecting anything like that, but something more intelligent, unfortunately it end up diminishing woman in all ways possible. The dialog between character in the play was harsh, gross, sadistic and low level, some says it a black humor, take it easy and enjoy, I say it is dark ****.

    I compare Marquis De Sade with Marilyn Manson in modern times, ultimate sadistic beings.. and I never heard anything De Sade was part of the Illuninatis club, in my opinion he was just a super freak, but I actually know almost nothing about this subject except for what I did read and watched in the theater.
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    Default Re: Marquis De Sade: Supreme Council Member of The Illuminati

    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)
    Quote Posted by EnergyGem (here)
    There is evidence that
    And where is that evidence??? Where in this post do you point to any actual point to any kind of evidence that the Marquis was a member of the Bavarian Illuminati??? Or Jacob Rothschild??? Just because someone wrote a post on the internet that lists five names from the "Supreme Council" without any actual evidence to back it up, that is not in and of itself evidence, and you can probably bet that this information came from their imagination and is designed either as click-bait or to fulfill their attention starved ego.

    There are a lot of people doing real work in the field of conspiracy, looking at real evidence and processing the information rationally to expose real criminality in the world. Unfortunately, many people refuse to take there work seriously because they are typecast as being fruitcakes and nutjobs, and it is posts like this, that make colorful claims without any real evidence, that put the fruit and nuts into the conspiracy field.

    Apologies Kryztian, I should have left a reference.

    This information comes from a book entitled 'The Secret Origin Of The Communist Party'.

    The author systematically goes into great depth about the origins of communism and the illuminati organization and it's ties to the Shabbetaianism/Frankism sect.

    The book hasn't been translated into English yet but you can download a copy here:


    https://www.bannedbook.org/resources/file/2461
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    Default Re: Marquis De Sade: Supreme Council Member of The Illuminati

    Quote Posted by EnergyGem (here)
    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)
    Quote Posted by EnergyGem (here)
    There is evidence that
    And where is that evidence??? Where in this post do you point to any actual point to any kind of evidence that the Marquis was a member of the Bavarian Illuminati??? Or Jacob Rothschild??? Just because someone wrote a post on the internet that lists five names from the "Supreme Council" without any actual evidence to back it up, that is not in and of itself evidence, and you can probably bet that this information came from their imagination and is designed either as click-bait or to fulfill their attention starved ego.
    Apologies Kryztian, I should have left a reference.

    This information comes from a book entitled 'The Secret Origin Of The Communist Party'.

    The author systematically goes into great depth about the origins of communism and the illuminati organization and it's ties to the Shabbetaianism/Frankism sect.

    The book hasn't been translated into English yet but you can download a copy here:

    https://www.bannedbook.org/resources/file/2461
    Even if the book were in English, that is a totally unacceptable answer, on par with "Go jump in a lake!"

    That you start a thread saying "there is evidence" and yet, not only have you failed critically scrutinized the evidence before proclaiming it is fact, you don't even know WTF the evidence is, but yet you start a post declaring authoritatively that the Rothschilds and Marquis de Sade were members of the Illuminati "Supreme Council."

    There are people like Terry Melanson, Peter Levenda, Jim Marrs, Mark Dice, etc. who write books and have done real research about the Bavarian Illuminati and support their claims with real documentation, real research, and real evidence based critical thinking. There are also members here on Avalon who can make claims about the Illuminati (and many other subjects) based on these books, and when asked "how do you know that?" they will respond, appropriately, not by giving you a link to a 900-page book (which they have read and understand well) but with the actually information from the book as they understand it.

    So, out of respect to the real researchers and their readers and to critical thinkers (many of whom are on this forum), could you please not present conspira-pornographic fantasyland dream notions as critically researched evidence based facts?

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    Default Re: Marquis De Sade: Supreme Council Member of The Illuminati

    Do a search on Bit Torrent for "Marquis de Sade".

    Videos, articles and such like to turn your stomach.

    For reference, though necessary, to convey the full evil.

    A recommended research though "not recommended" if you are squeamish. You have been warned.

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    Isn't the Marquis de Sade the program director for Netflix? :-)

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    Quote Posted by Snoweagle (here)
    Do a search on Bit Torrent for "Marquis de Sade".

    Videos, articles and such like to turn your stomach.

    For reference, though necessary, to convey the full evil.

    A recommended research though "not recommended" if you are squeamish. You have been warned.
    If there was a contest for the most wickedest man De Sade and Aleister Crowley would share the trophy.


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    Isn't the Marquis de Sade the program director for Netflix? :-)
    hahaha he would fit perfectly.. that was a good one.
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    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)

    Even if the book were in English, that is a totally unacceptable answer, on par with "Go jump in a lake!"

    That you start a thread saying "there is evidence" and yet, not only have you failed critically scrutinized the evidence before proclaiming it is fact, you don't even know WTF the evidence is, but yet you start a post declaring authoritatively that the Rothschilds and Marquis de Sade were members of the Illuminati "Supreme Council."

    There are people like Terry Melanson, Peter Levenda, Jim Marrs, Mark Dice, etc. who write books and have done real research about the Bavarian Illuminati and support their claims with real documentation, real research, and real evidence based critical thinking. There are also members here on Avalon who can make claims about the Illuminati (and many other subjects) based on these books, and when asked "how do you know that?" they will respond, appropriately, not by giving you a link to a 900-page book (which they have read and understand well) but with the actually information from the book as they understand it.

    So, out of respect to the real researchers and their readers and to critical thinkers (many of whom are on this forum), could you please not present conspira-pornographic fantasyland dream notions as critically researched evidence based facts?

    You attack a book and the information it contains without even taking a look at it's contents? A very puzzling stance as is your hostile tone. At least take a read of the book before criticizing it. There is nothing conspiracy or fantasyland about it.

    If you decide read it you will find that it is a thorough expose of the Illuminati organization, Frankism and it's and the origin of the Communist movement amongst many other related topics. The book has also been banned in China because of it's expose of Communisms true root.

    I made a post about communisms True root from some of the material gathered in the book which you can check out here:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...A-Satanic-Cult






    Quote Posted by Snoweagle (here)
    Do a search on Bit Torrent for "Marquis de Sade".

    Videos, articles and such like to turn your stomach.

    For reference, though necessary, to convey the full evil.

    A recommended research though "not recommended" if you are squeamish. You have been warned.
    The reason why I initially wanted to bring up De Sade is because in his writings there are hints and views about how these so called 'elite' view the world. It's an inner look as to why these degenerates do what they do and believe what they believe. They also have their own philosophy on the universe. Here are some further quotes to illustrate this:


    1.)"Exempt from all religious dreads, able, by discreet procedures and my wealth, to avoid difficulties with the law, what is the power, human or divine, that could impose a check upon my desires? The past encourages me, the present electrifies me, and I have little fear for the future; and my hope is that the rest of my life shall by far surpass the extravagances of my youth. Nature created human beings to no other end than that they amuse themselves on earth, and make it their playground, its inhabitants their toys; pleasure is the universal motor and law, it shall always be mine. Too bad for the victims, victims there must be."

    2.)"We are wont to fancy that the loss of such a perfect being as we would be ruinous to Nature, and we do not conceive that one man the more in the world, or the less, or all mankind, or one hundred million earths like ours and each full of men, are but subtle atoms, very tiny and indifferent to Nature.’ So rend away, hack and hew, torment, break, wreck, massacre, burn, grind to dust, melt, in a word: reshape into however many forms all the productions of the three kingdoms, and you simply shall have done them so many services, you shall have done nothing but be useful to them"

    3.)"Arm yourself in the knowledge that the atrocity you dread pleases her; she would have you inject an ever greater dose of atrocity in those that you call your destructions, that you become an intransigent opponent of any reproduction is her wish, her greatest expectation of you, that you annihilate the three kingdoms: this you cannot do; why then, if the atrocity she desires of you cannot attain the farther target she sets you, turn it upon the nearer and you shall have satisfied her to the best of your abilities. Unable to please her by the atrocity of a global destruction, at least provide her the pleasure of local atrocity, and into your murderings put every imaginable foulness and horror, thereby showing utmost docility in your compliance with the laws she imposes upon you; your inability to do all she wants does not exempt you from doing all you can."

    4.)“From the foregoing it would clearly appear that infanticide fits in closest with her designs because it severs the chain of progeniture, it consigns the greatest number of seeds to the tomb. In killing his father the son breaks nothing, he removes the uppermost link of the chain; when the father kills his son he prevents further links from ever being added thereunto; the line is doomed; it is not doomed by the son’s destroying the father, for the son remains, and in him lives the future of the line. Either children or young mothers, preferably when they are pregnant, these are the two murders which best answer the aim of the kingdom and above all of Nature, ’tis in that direction everybody should exert himself if he wishes to please the harsh dam of humankind."

    5.) "Ah, do we not see, do we not sense that atrocity in crime pleases Nature, since ’tis according to this factor alone she regulates the amount of delight to provide us when we commit a crime. The more frightful it is, the more we enjoy it; the blacker, the fouler it is, the more we are thrilled by it. Thus it is that an inexplicable Nature asks for viciousness, for vileness, for atrocious-ness in the deed she prompts us to, she wants us to adorn it with the same features she puts into the banes and plagues wherewith she besets us: so let us proceed fearlessly, imaginatively, let us set all scruples and bars aside, let us scorn humanity’s vain laws, the idiotic institutions which prisoner us. Let us heed none but Nature’s sacred voice, full certain that its instructions will always contradict the absurd principles of human morality and of infamous civilization."


    These so called elites worship destruction. A Falun Dafa practitioner had some interesting insights into this 'Demon Dao':

    "The Buddhas, Taos, and the gods practice the law of life, and they accomplish them in the law of life, and they are righteous. The demons follow the law of destruction. There are demons at the highest level of the universe. They are in that realm, with the Buddha and the Tao. They are accomplished by the law of destruction and are evil. They regard destruction the greatest and noblest thing. They regard it as their mission and highest ideal, until they are finally destroyed with the universe together with themselves, and they make this the greatest glory in their lives."

    - https://blog.bnn.co/hero/201406/fayuan2015/36_20.shtml

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    Quote There are people like Terry Melanson, Peter Levenda, Jim Marrs, Mark Dice, etc. who write books and have done real research about the Bavarian Illuminati and support their claims with real documentation, real research, and real evidence based critical thinking.

    hi Kryztian
    I am interested to read more about this curious subject and intrigued by Energy Gem's reference re possible origins of the communist party. I came across a series of novels by Robert Anton Wilson some years ago, called 'The Historical Illuminatus Chronicles,' which I sensed were not entirely fictional, but I found the subject too vast and confusing. Can you recommend a well researched book that would be a good place to start in exploring this subject? I appreciate Energy Gem starting this discussion but as his reference book is not in english I will not be able to read it.
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    Quote Posted by Violet3 (here)
    Quote There are people like Terry Melanson, Peter Levenda, Jim Marrs, Mark Dice, etc. who write books and have done real research about the Bavarian Illuminati and support their claims with real documentation, real research, and real evidence based critical thinking.

    hi Kryztian
    I am interested to read more about this curious subject and intrigued by Energy Gem's reference re possible origins of the communist party. I came across a series of novels by Robert Anton Wilson some years ago, called 'The Historical Illuminatus Chronicles,' which I sensed were not entirely fictional, but I found the subject too vast and confusing. Can you recommend a well researched book that would be a good place to start in exploring this subject? I appreciate Energy Gem starting this discussion but as his reference book is not in english I will not be able to read it.
    Violet, I found the book (The Secret Origin of the Communist Party) online. Google chrome should translate the book automatically into English (it's in reverse order so the last post in the list is the start of the book):

    https://www.epochtimes.com/gb/tag/%E...%E6%BA%90.html

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    Default Re: Marquis De Sade: Supreme Council Member of The Illuminati

    The reason why I initially wanted to bring up De Sade is because in his writings there are hints and views about how these so called 'elite' view the world. It's an inner look as to why these degenerates do what they do and believe what they believe. They also have their own philosophy on the universe. Here are some further quotes to illustrate this:

    https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/...ook-was-right/

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    The reason why I initially wanted to bring up De Sade is because in his writings there are hints and views about how these so called 'elite' view the world. It's an inner look as to why these degenerates do what they do and believe what they believe. They also have their own philosophy on the universe. Here are some further quotes to illustrate this:

    https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/...ook-was-right/
    Fascinating to see correspondence between these two.

    Huxley's insight is all too clear:

    Quote Thanks to the voluntary ignorance of our fathers, the advent of the ultimate revolution was delayed for five or six generations. Another lucky accident was Freud's inability to hypnotize successfully and his consequent disparagement of hypnotism. This delayed the general application of hypnotism to psychiatry for at least forty years. But now psycho-analysis is being combined with hypnosis; and hypnosis has been made easy and indefinitely extensible through the use of barbiturates, which induce a hypnoid and suggestible state in even the most recalcitrant subjects.

    Within the next generation I believe that the world's rulers will discover that infant conditioning and narco-hypnosis are more efficient, as instruments of government, than clubs and prisons, and that the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging and kicking them into obedience.
    Think of MK Ultra, Monarch programming etc. Then the Television, the hypnotic effect of the flickering light, oestrogen and fluoride in the tap water.

    We're nearly there.

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