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    Default mRNA 'vaccines', and time-traveling ETs who need our DNA

    Experiencers have often stated that several alien species and AI's are collecting human DNA and reproductive materials as:

    1. We are destroying ourselves/planet/habitat/environment
    2. They are us "from the future" and their DNA is so compromised they can no longer reproduce.

    What if the Covid vaccine is the "event" that irreparably destroys the long term viability of our DNA and reproductive capabilities?

    A. It is being posited the the mRNA "vaccine" rewrites DNA.....permanently and irrevocably.
    B. It is also being reported that this "vaccine" attacks the female reproductive system causing miscarriage and possible permanent sterility via HCG antibody production ( Gates vaccines are already accused of this) and attacks against the placental cells.

    If the above is true we may actually be saying farewell to the many of the "aliens" as we are the last genetically viable humans for the foreseeable future...apart from those they have cloned, harvested, hybridized or relocated.

    Just a thought......
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    Default Re: mRNA 'vaccines', and time-traveling ETs who need our DNA

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    Experiencers have often stated that several alien species adn AI's are collecting human DNA and reproductive materials as

    1. We are destroying ourselves/planet/habitat/environment
    2. They are us "from the future" and their DNA is so compromised they can no longer reproduce.

    What if the Covid vaccine is the "event" that irreparably destroys the long term viability of our DNA and reproductive capabilities?
    It's a very wild sci-fi stretch, but that thought did occur to me too.

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    Default Re: mRNA 'vaccines', and time-traveling ETs who need our DNA

    That certainly seems likely, judging from the predictions coming in from many experts saying the vaccine will be making many people incapable of reproducing.
    And possibly the "remnant" will simply be moving to a higher state of being and not reincarnating into the same kind of physical bodies--perhaps more "spiritual bodies" that will not be affected in the same way by various toxins, etc.
    Some of the descriptions of Lemuria and Atlantis said that there were some more highly evolved beings who lived there, but were not in wholly physical bodies.

    Quote Posted by CurEus (here)
    Experiencers have often stated that several alien species adn AI's are collecting human DNA and reproductive materials as

    1. We are destroying ourselves/planet/habitat/environment
    2. They are us "from the future" and their DNA is so compromised they can no longer reproduce.

    What if the Covid vaccine is the "event" that irreparably destroys the long term viability of our DNA and reproductive capabilities?

    A. It is being posited the the mRNA "vaccine" rewrites DNA.....permanently and irrevocably.
    B. It is also being reported that this "vaccine" attacks the female reproductive system causing miscarriage and possible permanent sterility via HCG antibody production ( Gates vaccines are already accused of this)

    If the above is true.we may actually be saying farewell to the many of the "aliens" as we are the last genetically viable humans for the foreseeable future...part from those they have cloned, harvested, hybridized or relocated.

    Just a thought......
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    Default Re: mRNA 'vaccines', and time-traveling ETs who need our DNA

    Not proud to admit this, but it crossed my mind too. Previously I couldn't fathom the idea of genetic modification in my day to day life, so the idea of an ET time-traveller retro-DNA farmer didn't make sense to me. But I do like a good story, so I remembered it. But I humbly think the mRNA approach is a good solid start down this road (shudder).

    The normalisation of the mRNA approach, under the cloak of science as magic. The mRNA inoculations are blended into peoples understanding as a vaccine, taking their cultural trust from the old school vaccinations (as in 'a little dose' of the virus)... the experimental aspect of these new ones much underplayed; the sales and marketing is brutal. I'm amazed we're up close and personal with mass-irreversible gene therapy. Arguably the mRNA vaccine is gene therapy, but it is also denied. If it isn't, I bet it will be soon

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    Default Re: mRNA 'vaccines', and time-traveling ETs who need our DNA

    I am a bit concerned with the old thinking of "vaccine shedding".....if this is the case with the Gene Editing therapies.....there is no where to run and no where to hide. We would need

    A. A Genetic Lock on our DNA...is that even possible?
    B. Sampled DNA to over write what was rewrtitten.....nothing except highest level science can do that.
    C. another body cloned, ready to go and another planet to live live on.

    If this is the case and someone is playing a game....they may actually have "won" without firing a shot.
    Isn't this just about when Creator loses patience and just floods and burns the whole planet as a "reset"?

    Uhg...if all we can incarnate into are little greys I will be very upset!

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    Default Re: mRNA 'vaccines', and time-traveling ETs who need our DNA

    whatever the event or events are that do irreperable DNA damage, any time travelling civilisation wanting our DNA would sample before the events but close to them, because they would also want the epigenetic elements from later rather than earlier, so its a window thing. may be closing now.
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    Default Re: mRNA 'vaccines', and time-traveling ETs who need our DNA

    I also have been thinking about this possibly being the fork in time that we have previously heard about when humans could no longer reproduce.


    Terry Lovelace, who talked with Linda Howe about his new book “Devils Den: The Reconing, spoke of the message “Betty”, the human hybrid Terry Lovelace communicated more recently with, was given new information on Nov. 19, 2020. About 30 minutes into the video, Linda talks about when Terry asked “Betty” why were the aliens hybridising with humans, telepathically “Betty” expressed concern about the future of Earth humans and the hybridisaton was for the preservation of a piece of humanity. https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1410241


    Richard Dolan speaks about the direction we are going and the posibility of non-humans directing the agenda we are seeing unfold. If we are being led by non-humans, it does seem very difficult to decide what action to take to change the direction Richard Dolan believes we are headed. He suggests anyone who knows more about the alien agenda and disclosure, to come forward with information that may shed light on why these events that have been planned over quite a long period of time are happening to help give us a chance to understand how to stop a future where humans have no freedom.


    It makes you wonder if there is some event in the future, natural or man made, that will bring about an extinction level situation and maybe there is no other way to preserve Earth life.


    And another thought is other inteligent forms want the planet Earth for themselves for selfish reasons or they believe we will cause our own demise and are intervening.


    Recently, Project Avalon member TrumanCash brought to our attention a Phil Schneider video that talks of the alien agenda also, which I found relevant and interesting to listen to again.https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1418394


    The question of how to take action when the perpetrators remain hidden while we are kept busy trying to survive the obscure moves “they” make, meanwhile their agenda continues to unfold.

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    Default Re: mRNA 'vaccines', and time-traveling ETs who need our DNA

    Another possibility is the forking of humanity into two species: organic human (vax resisters) vs. hybrid human (the vaxxed). Remote viewer Lyn Buchanan foresaw a future of people living in domed cities with filtered air and people living outside of the domes not bothered by the polluted air.

    He also said there was no overpopulation in the future due to chemtrails and other programs that had been carried out to reduce the population.

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    Default Re: mRNA 'vaccines', and time-traveling ETs who need our DNA

    Rudolf Steiner also predicted a time when humans would no longer be reproducing as well as a vaccine that would be designed to eliminate much of the human population.
    Quote Posted by Harmony (here)
    I also have been thinking about this possibly being the fork in time that we have previously heard about when humans could no longer reproduce.


    Terry Lovelace, who talked with Linda Howe about his new book “Devils Den: The Reconing, spoke of the message “Betty”, the human hybrid Terry Lovelace communicated more recently with, was given new information on Nov. 19, 2020. About 30 minutes into the video, Linda talks about when Terry asked “Betty” why were the aliens hybridising with humans, telepathically “Betty” expressed concern about the future of Earth humans and the hybridisaton was for the preservation of a piece of humanity. https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1410241


    Richard Dolan speaks about the direction we are going and the posibility of non-humans directing the agenda we are seeing unfold. If we are being led by non-humans, it does seem very difficult to decide what action to take to change the direction Richard Dolan believes we are headed. He suggests anyone who knows more about the alien agenda and disclosure, to come forward with information that may shed light on why these events that have been planned over quite a long period of time are happening to help give us a chance to understand how to stop a future where humans have no freedom.


    It makes you wonder if there is some event in the future, natural or man made, that will bring about an extinction level situation and maybe there is no other way to preserve Earth life.


    And another thought is other inteligent forms want the planet Earth for themselves for selfish reasons or they believe we will cause our own demise and are intervening.


    Recently, Project Avalon member TrumanCash brought to our attention a Phil Schneider video that talks of the alien agenda also, which I found relevant and interesting to listen to again.https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1418394


    The question of how to take action when the perpetrators remain hidden while we are kept busy trying to survive the obscure moves “they” make, meanwhile their agenda continues to unfold.
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    Default Re: mRNA 'vaccines', and time-traveling ETs who need our DNA

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by CurEus (here)
    Experiencers have often stated that several alien species adn AI's are collecting human DNA and reproductive materials as

    1. We are destroying ourselves/planet/habitat/environment
    2. They are us "from the future" and their DNA is so compromised they can no longer reproduce.

    What if the Covid vaccine is the "event" that irreparably destroys the long term viability of our DNA and reproductive capabilities?
    It's a very wild sci-fi stretch, but that thought did occur to me too.
    Same here.
    I think the human race as we know it is about to fall of a cliff.
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    TomKat do you know where you heard Lyn says this please, I'd like to listen to it. Many thanks


    Quote Posted by TomKat (here)
    Another possibility is the forking of humanity into two species: organic human (vax resisters) vs. hybrid human (the vaxxed). Remote viewer Lyn Buchanan foresaw a future of people living in domed cities with filtered air and people living outside of the domes not bothered by the polluted air.

    He also said there was no overpopulation in the future due to chemtrails and other programs that had been carried out to reduce the population.

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    Default Re: mRNA 'vaccines', and time-traveling ETs who need our DNA

    There's a real chance we might start to see the beginnings of an extinction level event towards the end of this year.

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    TomKat do you know where you heard Lyn says this please, I'd like to listen to it. Many thanks


    Quote Posted by TomKat (here)
    Another possibility is the forking of humanity into two species: organic human (vax resisters) vs. hybrid human (the vaxxed). Remote viewer Lyn Buchanan foresaw a future of people living in domed cities with filtered air and people living outside of the domes not bothered by the polluted air.

    He also said there was no overpopulation in the future due to chemtrails and other programs that had been carried out to reduce the population.
    Sorry, no. Maybe a Coast interview? He tends to say the same things over and over, so maybe you can find one where he says it.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    This was shared by onawah on the main Covid updates thread, but I think it also belongs here.

    It's becoming fairly widely recognized outside of the closed world of the controlled mainstream that there seems to be a transmission problem that is all too real but not yet well understood.

    This Infowars interview with Dr Carrie Madej is only partly about vaxxed—unvaxxed transmission, and goes to far more Orwellian places. But if even a portion of what Carrie Madej states is correct, there's very very big trouble brewing.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/lxuOoe5mbXco
    Just a thought: That may explain why the aliens/future humans were so interested in our DNA, navel probing, extraction of ovary etc. pre-2020. From this year on, abductions and body examinations will greatly reduce because the contaminated human body is no longer interesting.
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    Quote Posted by syrwong (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    This was shared by onawah on the main Covid updates thread, but I think it also belongs here.

    It's becoming fairly widely recognized outside of the closed world of the controlled mainstream that there seems to be a transmission problem that is all too real but not yet well understood.

    This Infowars interview with Dr Carrie Madej is only partly about vaxxed—unvaxxed transmission, and goes to far more Orwellian places. But if even a portion of what Carrie Madej states is correct, there's very very big trouble brewing.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/lxuOoe5mbXco

    ............................................... (I added this line to split the posts)


    Just a thought: That may explain why the aliens/future humans were so interested in our DNA, navel probing, extraction of ovary etc. pre-2020. From this year on, abductions and body examinations will greatly reduce because the contaminated human body is no longer interesting.

    Yes perhaps that's why future humans come back.... if the depopulation / infertility agenda really messes up the future of humankind - they will want uncontaminated humans not transhumans... to get things back on track -

    Another thought - I have wondered about how the transgender / transhuman agenda will affect reincarnation (supposing reincarnation, as we understand it, is a real thing, which it seems to be) .....

    There will be a shortage of bodies to reincarnate into if the depopulation / infertility agenda is allowed to go ahead as planned - and if humans are merged with machines and all become more or less the same - it will all get very restricted and boring...

    It would be nice if the eugenics / technology loving power junkies could split away and all go off on their boring time line and leave the rest of us to a more interesting and better future timeline - closer to nature etc...

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    Default Re: mRNA 'vaccines', and time-traveling ETs who need our DNA

    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    Quote Posted by syrwong (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    This was shared by onawah on the main Covid updates thread, but I think it also belongs here.

    It's becoming fairly widely recognized outside of the closed world of the controlled mainstream that there seems to be a transmission problem that is all too real but not yet well understood.

    This Infowars interview with Dr Carrie Madej is only partly about vaxxed—unvaxxed transmission, and goes to far more Orwellian places. But if even a portion of what Carrie Madej states is correct, there's very very big trouble brewing.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/lxuOoe5mbXco

    ............................................... (I added this line to split the posts)


    Just a thought: That may explain why the aliens/future humans were so interested in our DNA, navel probing, extraction of ovary etc. pre-2020. From this year on, abductions and body examinations will greatly reduce because the contaminated human body is no longer interesting.

    Yes perhaps that's why future humans come back.... if the depopulation / infertility agenda really messes up the future of humankind - they will want uncontaminated humans not transhumans... to get things back on track -

    Another thought - I have wondered about how the transgender / transhuman agenda will affect reincarnation (supposing reincarnation, as we understand it, is a real thing, which it seems to be) .....

    There will be a shortage of bodies to reincarnate into if the depopulation / infertility agenda is allowed to go ahead as planned - and if humans are merged with machines and all become more or less the same - it will all get very restricted and boring...

    It would be nice if the eugenics / technology loving power junkies could split away and all go off on their boring time line and leave the rest of us to a more interesting and better future timeline - closer to nature etc...
    Yes! How can we talk of the negative alien agenda without considering the benevolent side stepping it up?

    How did they come out on top in their space? (and I am easily assuming that there are positive races that got through similar difficulties)

    Being bad is the easy road. It's easy to be neglectful, hurtful. Drop a glass and let it shatter on the floor. But I bet there are a lot of people on this website alone with a quick reflex that have caught a glass without even thinking.

    The effort that good people have made has strength beyond what one can just see with their eyes or feel by a physical touch. And there is always a balance.

    I am counting on it.

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    Default Re: mRNA 'vaccines', and time-traveling ETs who need our DNA

    I checked from Wiki that the earliest documented abduction cases were the Brazilian Antonio Villas Boas case (1957) and the Barney and Betty Hill case of 1961. The former case involved a voluntary transfer of sperms to an alien woman. It is of a different kind than the Hill case, where extraction of ovary and sperm was done involuntarily and in pain. The UFO phenomenon evolved from simple encounters of the 1st to 2nd to 3rd kind over many years to a sudden switch to abduction which involved collection of human DNA. The Hill case is probably the first case. If it is indeed the first case, we can see why from a Chinese astrological viewpoint. 60 years is an important astrological cycle. If 2021 is, and probably is a great transformation of the human species to some non-autonomous hybrid, it makes sense for future humans to come back in time to collect samples of pure human DNA in the last cycle. So they time switch to 2021- 60=1961 to begin their first collection.

    It is possible that they would be very interested to know how humans would naturally evolve without being forcibly altered, by creating a new timeline to release us from the tyranny. For that they need a lot of sampling. What country is better than the great melting pot of the US?

    We are adhored by seeing the frail body of the Jrods, who reached the end of their evolution because they could no longer reproduce. Are we witnessing the very beginning of this mutation?

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    Default Re: mRNA 'vaccines', and time-traveling ETs who need our DNA

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    This was shared by onawah on the main Covid updates thread, but I think it also belongs here.

    It's becoming fairly widely recognized outside of the closed world of the controlled mainstream that there seems to be a transmission problem that is all too real but not yet well understood.

    This Infowars interview with Dr Carrie Madej is only partly about vaxxed—unvaxxed transmission, and goes to far more Orwellian places. But if even a portion of what Carrie Madej states is correct, there's very very big trouble brewing.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/lxuOoe5mbXco

    ............................................... (I added this line to split the posts)


    Just a thought: That may explain why the aliens/future humans were so interested in our DNA, navel probing, extraction of ovary etc. pre-2020. From this year on, abductions and body examinations will greatly reduce because the contaminated human body is no longer interesting.

    Yes perhaps that's why future humans come back.... if the depopulation / infertility agenda really messes up the future of humankind - they will want uncontaminated humans not transhumans... to get things back on track -

    Another thought - I have wondered about how the transgender / transhuman agenda will affect reincarnation (supposing reincarnation, as we understand it, is a real thing, which it seems to be) .....

    There will be a shortage of bodies to reincarnate into if the depopulation / infertility agenda is allowed to go ahead as planned - and if humans are merged with machines and all become more or less the same - it will all get very restricted and boring...

    It would be nice if the eugenics / technology loving power junkies could split away and all go off on their boring time line and leave the rest of us to a more interesting and better future timeline - closer to nature etc...
    Yes! How can we talk of the negative alien agenda without considering the benevolent side stepping it up?

    How did they come out on top in their space? (and I am easily assuming that there are positive races that got through similar difficulties)

    Being bad is the easy road. It's easy to be neglectful, hurtful. Drop a glass and let it shatter on the floor. But I bet there are a lot of people on this website alone with a quick reflex that have caught a glass without even thinking.

    The effort that good people have made has strength beyond what one can just see with their eyes or feel by a physical touch. And there is always a balance.

    I am counting on it.

    I remember watching Philip Corso's son (Philip Corso Jr) talking about how those trying to replicate and 'fly' craft like the alien/time travelers did came upon a fundamental problem... that to merge their consciousness with the craft to get it to go somewhere required that they be advanced enough to do it and the advancement was in the positive direction - ie it was an evolutionary condition that they were higher up the scale of goodness and that someone with inferior or 'bad' intentions couldn't do it - I suppose their vibration would be too heavy or slow?

    so they needed to recruit more advanced individuals to take part in the experiments... but as it was all a big secret they might not be able to get the good people they needed... something along those lines (from memory) I don't know if I'm explaining it well enough - but it's to do with what you said about 'positive races'....

    maybe there is a self limiting thing going on in nature preventing real nasty types from getting too far... dunno.... speculation...

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    Default Re: mRNA 'vaccines', and time-traveling ETs who need our DNA

    Quote Posted by syrwong (here)
    I checked from Wiki that the earliest documented abduction cases were the Brazilian Antonio Villas Boas case (1957) and the Barney and Betty Hill case of 1961. The former case involved a voluntary transfer of sperms to an alien woman. It is of a different kind than the Hill case, where extraction of ovary and sperm was done involuntarily and in pain. The UFO phenomenon evolved from simple encounters of the 1st to 2nd to 3rd kind over many years to a sudden switch to abduction which involved collection of human DNA. The Hill case is probably the first case. If it is indeed the first case, we can see why from a Chinese astrological viewpoint. 60 years is an important astrological cycle. If 2021 is, and probably is a great transformation of the human species to some non-autonomous hybrid, it makes sense for future humans to come back in time to collect samples of pure human DNA in the last cycle. So they time switch to 2021- 60=1961 to begin their first collection.

    It is possible that they would be very interested to know how humans would naturally evolve without being forcibly altered, by creating a new timeline to release us from the tyranny. For that they need a lot of sampling. What country is better than the great melting pot of the US?

    We are adhored by seeing the frail body of the Jrods, who reached the end of their evolution because they could no longer reproduce. Are we witnessing the very beginning of this mutation?

    Very interesting observations / speculations - thank you

    I think you're right - this could very well be the very beginning of 'our' demise and that's why many people are on red alert because it is felt and known - on a deeper level how serious this all is with the 'vaccine' aka gene therapy -

    If the human race becomes totally dependent on scientifically created babies with no biological parents or something along those lines - it will only take a natural disaster like a meteor strike or something to wreck the infrastructure / laboratories etc and then how will they get on....

    Transgender / transhumans dependent on technology would be like survival of the weakest and that can only go on for so long before the you know what hits the fan...

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    After reading all of the insightful comments it dawned on me that there a few things to consider about Abductions for reproductive sampling.

    A. The "aliens" or their AI agents are quite clueless.
    Why? It does not take much to collect blood, skin, ova or sperm. People are paid for this daily. People also donate to "science" daily. If they cannot clue in to our altruistic sensibilities or "need" for money....well I do not hold out much hope for them. As I recall their collection efforts are not always "painless". If you can shut down our ability to move, I would think you could at least turn off pain centres. Even if you "erase" a memory the body still hold onto the trauma. An interstellar race of sociopaths is not a heart warming thought....

    B. If the above is not true they may be looking for very particular and specific types of DNA. It has been continually repeated that family lines are targeted. So we may not all be viable for their goals perhaps due to pollutants in our DNA through vaccines, radiation, previous infections or previous hybridization. OR perhaps only certain bloodlines in their timeline are viable and must ONLY be infused with their progenitor's DNA?

    Purportedly the Annunaki god obliterated hybrids in the last flood....mostly. Only keeping Noah and his family safe as they were "pure". Although ( again purportedly) some of his son's wives were not. I think we can all mostly agree if we can make a mermaid...someone will make a mermaid.

    Or is "pure" DNA a commodity where they are from....so off they go DNA mining planets for fun and profits. To protect their wealth they then obliterate the source...Us and our planet.

    My concern with interstellar or inter dimensional travel was that it would not be a place of enlightened beings.....but just like here, a place of capricious greedy peoples in continual conflict. We could only then raise our arms in the air and rage that the entire universe SUCKS and it is worse than home. Bit disappointing but I trut to hope and I expect if the universe is dominated by the negative, the positives will still be trudging along trying to make it a better place.

    I hope.

    None are pleasant and I prefer to think they are in some way acting for the greater good, which also leaves us with a disquieting notion that we may indeed be the last.

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