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    To start, I am the grandson of a NAZI P.O.W. A bellygunner, on a B-17 shot down early in the U.S. involvement. The Germans had him for 3 years. He escaped and fought with the french underground for awhile. Upon his return to the states, he was put through OCS, and later went to Korea during that war. When he retired, he moved his family from Texas, to Palo Alto California. His oldest Daughter married a Drummer for a band that had 2 drummers, and toured extensively, And the Lead guitarist Like Cherry Garcia Ice cream(lol). Nextdoor the the house the band lived in was a C_A op, called midnight climax, part of the MK Ultra program. That Aunt would later go to work at Fairchild Elec. and Marry a future Fairchild Executive.(Clown Tie) My mother would be the younger sister, also exposed to this 60's music scene. My grandfather later got a Government Job in washington state, and Moved his family again, at the same time, My father' family moved to the same area, from Iowa. My fathers family is connected to the Founding Fathers. George Washington is my 2nd cousin obviously several times removed, ect.


    I saw my first UFO when I was 12. We were driving on Broadway in Everett Wa. on a part that is high on a hill overlooking the Snohomish river valley. It was '82. The Ufo paced us as we drove. My mom yelled at me not to look at it.

    That same year I had a vision or a dream, a face I couldn't see told me I was the sword of God. Which I pretty much forgot about till i was in my 20's. (I'm wondering if my clock works orange)IDK. I was born 40 weeks after man walked on the moon if he did......

    Also that year, My uncle who is a Russell, and Graduated from Annapolis and worked for the government after he got out in various capacities, entered my life.

    2nd one was as an Adult same general area. I was 38 and on my way home from my territory sales job. I lived in Lake Stevens which is on the other side of the valley from Everett, but within 5 miles of my first sighting. It paced me until I turned down my street, then It hung in my sight as if to say, Hi! and then grew into a much larger ball of light and vanished. pretty trippy.

    I enlisted in the Army when I was 17, and went to boot camp right out of highschool.
    While in Boot camp, I got really sick. !03 temp. I was admitted to the hospital, and was unconscious for 3 days. I don't remember anything.I missed some immunizations, and never had to get them. I'm one of the only people I know that is prior service without a scar on my shoulder from the big nasty shot they give you. Nobody else from my unit got sick. I was the only soldier in my hospital room, 6 beds only me.

    I'm O-, Celtic R1b1a2a, and T-2 MtDna. I have a very small amount of Nansemond Native blood through My 11th great grandfather Peter "the great nansemond warrior chief" Tucker. I have some really odd memories, and have had some lucid dreams of a high level Dinner party where the Clinton's were present.

    In my family tree you would find, Kennedy's, Collins, Bundy, and about 10 other names frequently associated.

    If there is anyone that knows more about memory recovery, and whether or not this sounds familiar. I would greatly appreciate any information.

    Thank you in advance
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    Default Re: Looking for some help (Milab-related)

    Yes this sounds very familiar. Dave McGowan's Weird Scenes Inside the Goldmine: The Strange But Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon, available on this website, covers some of what you are talking about.

    Avalon member TrumanCash recommends memory recovery without hypnosis, and there are a couple of books at the bottom of his posts. You might go through one of those and see if there is anything there for you. If so, you may want to take him up on a very generous offer. There is more information here:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1312158

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    thank you. I'm trying to make sense out of what goes on in my head. I went into the Army, kind of normal guy. I wasn't that great of an athlete in school. But after basic training I turned into a different person. over the years as an adult. My personality has cycled through several different types of people, But as I've gotten into my fifties I feel like there's a battle for control of my life.

    And If it's true that they target certain groups, and track the bloodlines. Would they even miss me?

    My house get's circled by Blackhawks, a few times a month. I always wave
    I sleep with cold steel under my bed, and 5 feet away is Mr. Boomstick.
    Ive been on Burner phones for 5 years, and regularly switch numbers, and change e-mail addresses. But I'm tired and getting old. I'm a 9 out of 10 on the ACES assessment, which qualifies as CPTSD.
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    Is this standard life style for the mentally hacked?

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    If there is anyone that knows more about memory recovery, and whether or not this sounds familiar. I would greatly appreciate any information.

    Thank you in advance
    Tony Rodriquez claims his memories of a twenty & back program resurfaced after he had a MRI. Johan Fritz also makes that claim.

    Tony & Johan: Link

    20 & Back explained: Some report they're taken at about age seventeen, serve twenty years in a space program, aged regressed back to the time they were taken then time shifted back to the point of origin. From what I've heard the person may only be gone fifteen minutes.
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    If there is anyone that knows more about memory recovery, and whether or not this sounds familiar. I would greatly appreciate any information.

    Thank you in advance
    Tony Rodriquez claims his memories of a twenty & back program resurfaced after he had a MRI. Johan Fritz also makes that claim.

    Tony & Johan: Link

    20 & Back explained: Some report they're taken at about age seventeen, serve twenty years in a space program, aged regressed back to the time they were taken then time shifted back to the point of origin.
    so Like 3 days in the hospital at basic?

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    If there is anyone that knows more about memory recovery, and whether or not this sounds familiar. I would greatly appreciate any information.

    Thank you in advance
    Tony Rodriquez claims his memories of a twenty & back program resurfaced after he had a MRI. Johan Fritz also makes that claim.

    Tony & Johan: Link

    20 & Back explained: Some report they're taken at about age seventeen, serve twenty years in a space program, aged regressed back to the time they were taken then time shifted back to the point of origin.
    so Like 3 days in the hospital at basic?
    That's possible. You also might want to take a look at Donald Marshall who claims people are pulled out of their bodies at night and put into clones of themselves. A super soldier named Alara Blackwell claims they avatared her into a soldier who was on an infiltration mission.
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    I had a night where I was meditating to a binaural beat, learning to lucid dream. and I started shaking violently and felt a pull up and I came out of my meditative state and it stopped, but I felt like something was pulling me out of my body.

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    I had a night where I was meditating to a binaural beat, learning to lucid dream. and I started shaking violently and felt a pull up and I came out of my meditative state and it stopped, but I felt like something was pulling me out of my body.
    The Gray abductee Jim Sparks described something similar to that in his book The Keepers. He was sitting in his living room and a vortex opened up and was pulling his physical body. He wrote that he felt a pulling sensation in his gut.

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    It might help to keep visual journals, sketches of your dreams and other experiences. It will help in developing the detached observer, i.e., the experience of looking at all that is happening, standing outside of yourself and not being effected by it. A guy I know deep into milabs does this and it seems to help him stay grounded.

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    I'm not even sure I want to remember. I got tested when I was a kid a lot. My mom took me to a place where I had to try and guess the shape behind a partition. I don't remember if I did well. and another time she took me and they hooked me up to a biofeedback machine, I think I either watched something or listened to something. Not sure what that would be for. I remember a few I.Q. tests as well with school district Psychologists. I was a very poor student, but very well mannered.

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    So I guess i'm wondering if anyone else get's flashes of light at night and what feels like a download of information?

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    If there is anyone that knows more about memory recovery, and whether or not this sounds familiar. I would greatly appreciate any information.
    Yes. Contact Avalon member James Newell (known to everyone as Jim) — either by Personal Message (PM), or through his website at https://getmoreable.com (maybe better, as he's not always online here). Jim can help you recover all your memories both from this life and from previous ones.
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    If there is anyone that knows more about memory recovery, and whether or not this sounds familiar. I would greatly appreciate any information.
    Yes. Contact Avalon member James Newell (known to everyone as Jim) — either by Personal Message (PM), or through his website at https://getmoreable.com (maybe better, as he's not always online here). Jim can help you recover all your memories both from this life and from previous ones.
    I got a warning about getmoreable(dot)com not being safe according to FireFox Browser ... then I decided to go further anyway and saw only that they know my IP address ... nothing more ... weird.

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    I had a night where I was meditating to a binaural beat, learning to lucid dream. and I started shaking violently and felt a pull up and I came out of my meditative state and it stopped, but I felt like something was pulling me out of my body.
    You've had sleep paralysis since you were a kid, haven't you. Did you grow up a Brat? I did, on military bases around the world. This is the opening/pathway to bringing on an OOBE. Read Robert Monroe's book, "Journeys Out of the Body" to find out how to harness that ability. It's not hard if you are already getting the vibrations regularly. That's the hardest part to bring about just by trying to. But once you do, the multiverse is the limit.

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    I'm not even sure I want to remember. I got tested when I was a kid a lot. My mom took me to a place where I had to try and guess the shape behind a partition. I don't remember if I did well. and another time she took me and they hooked me up to a biofeedback machine, I think I either watched something or listened to something. Not sure what that would be for. I remember a few I.Q. tests as well with school district Psychologists. I was a very poor student, but very well mannered.
    This is what made me ask if you were a brat. They give you tests and strange contraptions that they take away after a while. I remember at Tinker AFB in Oklahoma being taken into a wood-paneled room and an old dude asking me a battery of questions. I have the feeling that I was in that office a lot. It can be weird to try to contextualize all of this now, later in life, but this is when all of the memories seem to return of their own volition.

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    So I guess i'm wondering if anyone else get's flashes of light at night and what feels like a download of information?
    That's what they are and yes.

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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Josh88 (here)
    If there is anyone that knows more about memory recovery, and whether or not this sounds familiar. I would greatly appreciate any information.
    Yes. Contact Avalon member James Newell (known to everyone as Jim) — either by Personal Message (PM), or through his website at https://getmoreable.com (maybe better, as he's not always online here). Jim can help you recover all your memories both from this life and from previous ones.
    I got a warning about getmoreable(dot)com not being safe according to FireFox Browser ... then I decided to go further anyway and saw only that they know my IP address ... nothing more ... weird.

    cheers,
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    I got the same message you got, John.

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    Quote Posted by Josh88 (here)
    I had a night where I was meditating to a binaural beat, learning to lucid dream. and I started shaking violently and felt a pull up and I came out of my meditative state and it stopped, but I felt like something was pulling me out of my body.
    You've had sleep paralysis since you were a kid, haven't you. Did you grow up a Brat? I did, on military bases around the world. This is the opening/pathway to bringing on an OOBE. Read Robert Monroe's book, "Journeys Out of the Body" to find out how to harness that ability. It's not hard if you are already getting the vibrations regularly. That's the hardest part to bring about just by trying to. But once you do, the multiverse is the limit.

    Quote Posted by Josh88 (here)
    I'm not even sure I want to remember. I got tested when I was a kid a lot. My mom took me to a place where I had to try and guess the shape behind a partition. I don't remember if I did well. and another time she took me and they hooked me up to a biofeedback machine, I think I either watched something or listened to something. Not sure what that would be for. I remember a few I.Q. tests as well with school district Psychologists. I was a very poor student, but very well mannered.
    This is what made me ask if you were a brat. They give you tests and strange contraptions that they take away after a while. I remember at Tinker AFB in Oklahoma being taken into a wood-paneled room and an old dude asking me a battery of questions. I have the feeling that I was in that office a lot. It can be weird to try to contextualize all of this now, later in life, but this is when all of the memories seem to return of their own volition.

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    So I guess i'm wondering if anyone else get's flashes of light at night and what feels like a download of information?
    That's what they are and yes.
    I didn't grow up on a base but moved a lot as a kid. My Dad was absent a lot, but I think he was an asset. Gen 3 , amphetamine driven.
    My mother was a Military brat, and as I said think My grandfather was probably, O.S.S., and or a Clown. as well as my uncle who went to Annapolis, and held a GS 15 job after the service, in the Bay Area.

    I had been groomed to join the Marine Corp. as a kid, but fell victim to a Army recruiter my Junior year. I entered as a aircraft mechanic, but applied for 18D twice while I was CONUS, and Applied for Ranger school/Jump School/Air Assault/ect.
    To say I was Gung Ho would be a severe understatement.

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    I'm having some real breakthroughs. And Have an appointment with someone who specializes in this area. Thanks to all for your support and help, this has been hell on earth for along time and I see the Light at the end of the tunnel.

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    Hope all is going well. It sounds like you are already into this. I have a couple bits of advice... You've probably already thought of them, but i wouldn't feel right if I didn't suggest them.

    Regardless if you are using 'soft' or 'hard' memory recall techniques, a dam could break at any time = flood. Try to make sure you have a stable base with backup resources and can take a week or two off from day to day work/life as some upheavals can be extremely destabilizing. Not about if you're tough enough... It just might change your frame of mind, and set you off in various ways emotionally and/or idealistically, so it's important to plan for if you need to take sudden time off. For this most need cash.

    Related to upheaval and rapid changes to your frame of mind is a word of caution. I don't like to trust anyone, so I don't want to say have a friend to run new ideas by before you implement them, but what I would strongly recommend is to not make any major decisions without 24, 48, or 72 hours passing by. Upheaval can lead to very reckless behavior even if the intention was otherwise... I've seen this with random/garden variety upheaval, but also programmed responses to upheaval ~ CSRS conditioned stimulii response sequence, Wernicke's commands, etc. I've seen many make harsh decisions during times of upheaval that were to their detriment.

    Just keep in mind - no matter what you remember, and how it makes you feel, - if it makes you feel angry, or paranoid, or even scared, like you need to do something urgently - the only thing about your situation that has changed is the fact that you are consciously recalling. That can sometimes help people stay grounded... just keeping in mind that the only thing about your situation that has changed is the conscious recall... So no matter how it feels, you didn't 'just enter a situation' so even if you start to feel like the situation you are dealing with merits urgent action, take some deep breaths and at least sleep on it, or properly prepare.

    Not trying to put any of that on you, might be no problem for you, but from my experience I feel obligated to say this. I've just seen many things happen during memory work... From lives completely derailing, to just overall quality of life going down, so please make sure you take care.

    With taking care of yourself during memory work, my last bit of advice for now - have a healthy physical outlet in place (punching bag, gym membership, pool pass), and a healthy creative/expressive outlet in place (supplies for artwork, even music, etc) - and use them. Even if you don't really feel like it (I mean take time off sometimes), it will usually make you feel better and help keep you balanced, healthy, and also aid in the work. I recommend taking notes as well, although that type of thing many have strong urges against.

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