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    Quote Utopia is an American science fiction drama television series adapted by Gillian Flynn from the 2013 British original series of the same name. It was released on September 25, 2020, on the Prime Video streaming service
    On October 17, 2019, the creator of the show, Gillian Flynn, announced that the series' filming was completed

    The next day, Friday October 18 2019 Event 201 was held in New York.


    This goes well beyond Predictive Programming, the whole scenario is laid out for us, as always, in plain sight.

    Quote "You created a flu that sparked a demand for a vaccine that doesn't work"

    "It gives a certain percentage of the population a fatal illness, and you make sure it's genetic, so that you pass it down, so if you have children before you die.."

    " You created a panic, and now everyone is begging for the vaccine, demanding it with all the entitlement of a first world country"

    " We didn't have to kill to achieve our goal....(which is what?) ... We intend to stop human reproduction for three generations"

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    The vaccine is designed to control the spread/effects of a virus. They see us as that virus.

    We are the virus and the vaccine is the (final) solution?


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    wow, consider the time it takes to write a show and plan to put it into production and bring it to the viewer.

    when was this begun?

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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    wow, consider the time it takes to write a show and plan to put it into production and bring it to the viewer.

    when was this begun?
    The US series started filming in August 2018, there is also a British version which ran around 2013/14. I haven't seen either so I don't know if the plot line is the same in both series.

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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    wow, consider the time it takes to write a show and plan to put it into production and bring it to the viewer.

    when was this begun?
    According to Wikipedia the first two series aired 2013/2014. The reference to 2015 in the segment in the OP was a neat hint.
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    There's also a 2003 movie called Absolon which features a frightening viral global pandemic. Then, there's a 'cure', which everyone becomes dependent on and is mandated to take regularly, with scary social credit punishments if one fails to do so.

    The film is hard to find, but I finally tracked it down and I have it. It's awful, trust me: endless unimaginative shoot-em-up chases, a dreadful script, and so on. So I don't really apologize for the spoiler.

    The big twist is that the virus died out long ago, which has been covered up. But the 'disease' is actually being perpetuated by the 'cure' at the hands of evil Big Pharma. And those who have a real remedy for the entire thing are being silenced and killed. Go figure.

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    Could sterility be the end game with vaccines?



    Fertility Regulating Vaccines (WHO doc 1992)
    https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/...pdf?sequence=1

    USAID Funding of Sterilization Camps in India

    https://www.pop.org/wp-content/uploa...08AUmLqDLCU2Ow

    China Committing ‘Demographic Genocide’ Against Uighurs Through Forced Abortion, Sterilization, Mass Detention, AP Investigation Finds
    https://dailycaller.com/2020/06/29/c...en-minorities/

    “Mass Sterilization”: Kenyan Doctors Find Anti-fertility Agent in UN Tetanus Vaccine?
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/mass-s...-2/5678295/amp

    HCG Found in WHO Tetanus Vaccine in Kenya Raises Concern in the Developing World
    https://www.researchgate.net/publica...veloping_World

    Tetanus vaccine may be laced with anti-fertility drug. International / developing countries
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12346214/

    State's top doctor says infertility could be side effect of COVID
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...id/ar-BB16AxpD

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    we are already well into a depopulation crisis in most of the "western world".... even china and japan iirc....

    this would just exacerbate the situation if true.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    There's also a 2003 movie called Absolon which features a frightening viral global pandemic. Then, there's a 'cure', which everyone becomes dependent on and is mandated to take regularly, with scary social credit punishments if one fails to do so.

    The film is hard to find, but I finally tracked it down and I have it. It's awful, trust me: endless unimaginative shoot-em-up chases, a dreadful script, and so on. So I don't really apologize for the spoiler.

    The big twist is that the virus died out long ago, which has been covered up. But the 'disease' is actually being perpetuated by the 'cure' at the hands of evil Big Pharma. And those who have a real remedy for the entire thing are being silenced and killed. Go figure.
    Bill said:

    "The big twist is that the virus died out long ago, which has been covered up. But the 'disease' is actually being perpetuated by the 'cure' at the hands of evil Big Pharma. And those who have a real remedy for the entire thing are being silenced and killed. Go figure.[/QUOTE]"

    Bingo. Thesis-antithesis-synthesis. Problem-reaction-solution. Rinse-wash-repeat. (Or, maybe, rinse-repeat-wash)

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    Quote Posted by pueblo (here)
    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    wow, consider the time it takes to write a show and plan to put it into production and bring it to the viewer.

    when was this begun?
    The US series started filming in August 2018, there is also a British version which ran around 2013/14. I haven't seen either so I don't know if the plot line is the same in both series.
    in My first post after several years on the covid post in February 8TH 2020 I referenced that people needed to watch the original utopia series as it represented the up-and-coming agenda. Things have panned out as expected. The recent amazon remake is actually a real disappointment, far better to watch the 2013/2014 original.
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    Quote Posted by Dorjezigzag (here)
    Quote Posted by pueblo (here)
    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    wow, consider the time it takes to write a show and plan to put it into production and bring it to the viewer.

    when was this begun?
    The US series started filming in August 2018, there is also a British version which ran around 2013/14. I haven't seen either so I don't know if the plot line is the same in both series.
    in My first post after several years on the covid post in February 8TH 2020 I referenced that people needed to watch the original utopia series as it represented the up-and-coming agenda. Things have panned out as expected. The recent amazon remake is actually a real disappointment, far better to watch the 2013/2014 original.
    Is the plot the same in both series?

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    Chloroquine saves the day.


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    Quote Posted by pueblo (here)
    Chloroquine saves the day.

    This is extracted from 2004, according to a commentator in the comments from below the video.
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    Quote Posted by Dorjezigzag (here)
    Quote Posted by pueblo (here)
    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    wow, consider the time it takes to write a show and plan to put it into production and bring it to the viewer.

    when was this begun?
    The US series started filming in August 2018, there is also a British version which ran around 2013/14. I haven't seen either so I don't know if the plot line is the same in both series.
    in My first post after several years on the covid post in February 8TH 2020 I referenced that people needed to watch the original utopia series as it represented the up-and-coming agenda. Things have panned out as expected. The recent amazon remake is actually a real disappointment, far better to watch the 2013/2014 original.
    I'd started watching the UK version then lost track of it. From memory it was good, quite disconcerting and creepy. I think it was based on a comic, but I may have that wrong. I've not seen the US remake but others have also noticed that foreshadowing of 2020. Vigilant Citizen has done an excellent job analysing this:

    How Utopia eerily predicted 2020:

    Quote Utopia is mind-bogglingly timely (or untimely according to some) in 2020 as its story revolves around a pandemic, a rush for a vaccine, and a massive conspiracy by a big pharma company.

    The nefarious plans of the villains are however thwarted by a ragtag group of nerds who discovered that an underground graphic novel has been predicting the emergence of several viruses through enigmatic symbols. What’s mind-boggling about this story is that the series itself appears to have predicted the COVID-19 pandemic. Furthermore, Utopia depicts a system of mind-controlled slaves carrying out murders and false flag events to advance the villain’s agenda, combined with a whole lot of mass media manipulation and cover-ups.

    The series is so close to our reality in 2020 that one cannot help but think: Is Utopia some kind of warning?
    Note the remake has: 'Amazon’s Utopia is based on a 2013 UK series of the same name. However, its new iteration was “updated” with a heavy dose of occult elite madness.

    Very interesting to read the negative reviews which are collected at the above link. Time Magazine condemns it as irresponsible, because the 'heroes' are conspiracy theories / anti vaxxers. Is it 'revelation of the method' a means of spreading fear, or a warning from another faction of TPTB?

    Whichever, the underlying idea that fertility is the target seems the likeliest negative aspect of these vaccines. It takes a lot longer to become apparent, which would be important if they want everyone to take it. It's less likely to be noticed by older people who get the vaccines first, they may think it will absolve them of some karmic comeback should they believe in that as opposed to directly killing someone, finally it would then empower those who control in vitro fertilisation with absolute power over who gets to procreate and how often. So there is a malign kind of sense there. VC thinks this is more of a karmic dodge than a genuine warning to the unwitting masses:

    Quote Filmed before COVID-19, Utopia eerily prophesized a pandemic and the rush for a vaccine – events that would happen in real life only months after its filming. What’s even more mind-boggling is that the series is about a graphic novel that predicted a pandemic … the same way the series predicted a pandemic.

    So one might ask: Is Utopia an act of rebellion against the elite? Not really. Although it appears to be warning viewers about the nefarious plans of the elite, Utopia also fully indulges in it. For instance, throughout the series, people keep getting killed in all kinds of gruesome ways, and these deaths are treated with a cold indifference that conveys the message that human life has no value. Also, there are unbearable scenes of torture. Other scenes depict dead children. One child even gets shot in the head. In the last episode, Christie’s plan to halt human reproduction for three generations is presented in a convincing way, with little rebuttal about the insanity of living in a childless society.

    In short, this series is a reflection of the complete insanity of our era. The elite believes that it must divulge its nefarious plans to the public before they happen in order to avoid the wrath of karmic laws. And maybe Utopia is part of such effort. In other words, the rabbit hole goes deep.
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    I only lasted a few episodes of the recent remake although I may persevere. The reason I did not continue was that what I saw was very similar to the original but it just wasn't working like the original. The original definitely has a lot of conspiracy and occult elements in it and there is a narrative concerning the concept of a binary weapon with the vaccine. The goal of the vaccination being connected to infertility and extermination.

    I love the whole idea within it of a graphic novel that seems to predict future events as this is an area of my particular interest.

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    This from an interview in 2012 with the writer Dennis Kelly.

    Sum up, if you can, what Utopia is all about.

    It's a really difficult thing to explain. At the heart of it is a conspiracy, and the conspiracy slowly gets unveiled during the course of the series. But the people who are involved have no idea what's going on. Often you see conspiracy thrillers involving journalists or cops, or people who are somehow in the know. I liked the idea of that sort of happening to someone who was a bit ****, like me, and wouldn't know what to do, and was completely at sea with it. So basically there's a graphic novel that's been published in the past, and there have been lots of whacked-out conspiracy theories linked to it. There are people who are fans of it, who suddenly get involved in this conspiracy, and as things slowly begin to unravel, they get thrown out of their lives. They can't contact their families or use email, and are constantly on the run, so it's a bit **** for them.



    It's got a feeling of being really quite unique. Where did the idea for this come from?

    Kudos came to me with an idea, and it was about a conspiracy hidden inside a graphic novel. It was very embryonic, and a bit more comic-book. I think the conspiracy was quite ‘illuminati'. What I really liked was the idea of this thing that just randomly happened to get hidden in a graphic novel. I liked some of the idea, and some of it I wanted to change. I wanted to ground it in quite a real world, and not make it superheroic or sci-fi.

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    They have already told us the the plan!

    Yes I agree...

    They have been planning it for far to long to take in todays society, the plan is old, and yes they aren't stupid, they have been refining it for years and years...

    So why am I hearing more and more of posts with things like "healing beds" which are apparently already a thing in California, with the invention of such things then there would no longer be a need for pharmaceuticals...

    I have already heard people speak of the fact they are getting to greedy, what is happening now should not have happened until 2050, then it was brought forward to 2030 and then 2020...

    Are we on a tipping point?

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    The original version (twice 6 episodes) is definitely the better one.

    I agree with Dorjezigzag saying "I only lasted a few episodes of the recent remake although I may persevere. The reason I did not continue was that what I saw was very similar to the original but it just wasn't working like the original. " The same happened with me.

    I don't want to spoil anyone who wants to see the origianl "Utopia". The plotline was very good but there was SO much violence and torture going on that this at times was very disturbing. Maybe some would argue that it was "necessary for the effects required".

    However, there are many parallels with the situation we know today. What was intriguing in the original plot, that it was "planned and created" by just two people (in the beginning).

    For those who are interested in - possibly - finding "markers" in the past, dealing with the present, it is a pretty good source of information.

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    I’m not saying the title of this thread is wrong, BUT…

    Sometimes, fiction is simply something spawned in the imagination of one or more individuals. It is transferred to an art medium which gives it a more tangible form. But that alone does not make it real. It is no more real than a dream, a project or a blueprint. There is still some way to go before it can be patented with one or more published/reproducible embodiments.

    Take Orson Welles’ radio dramatization of HG Wells’ The War of the Worlds in the 1930s. Apparently, it was panic stations among a number of people hearing the programme live, who got the impression that a Martian invasion was really already underway. Apparently too, this panic was blown out of proportion by whoever for whatever purpose. But the bottom line is that there was no Martian invasion, it was simply an SF writer in overdrive, that is, given the loudspeaker of national radio. Hence for one level of fiction, there were at least two levels of dramatization: one fictional, the other in the real world.

    If we are going to take this fiction seriously, then we need to take it really seriously, i.e. joining the dots with what has gone before. In this particular instance, that would mean that… a nice earth-grown virus would put paid to the Martian invader. But this is not what we are ‘seeing’: according to some, we are seeing on the contrary a virus, possibly of alien origin, that is attacking everything that it means to be human. Whether it kills us now, or later on, sterilizes us, turns us into robots or makes us soulless, we have come 180° from Wells. The same mechanism fantasized as saving us is now reversed to kill us all. How much of this is factual, and how much imagination, nightmares, madness, bleedthrough from a parallel universe or perhaps ancient memories, that we are never told.


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    There are just so many examples of possible predictive programming in books, shows, music, and even video games. Makes you wonder if someone knew? Or if the mass psyche created the reality through imagination.

    Here is a video from 1975, I think it was. When I first heard this song performed on Saturday Night Live back then, I was like "What the heck?"
    But just scanning it now for some quick hints, I jotted down these tidbits:
    Sun and Rays (on the screen at the beginning)
    The word onca (a gold coin)
    Warner Brothers Records
    "the papers the chinaman gave you"
    "every man, woman and mutant shall know the truth"
    Masks. Lots of masks.



    I found that the groups writer, Mark Mothersbaugh has had his hand in a ton of media productions over the years... lots of connections one could explore, I suppose.
    Mark Mothersbaugh
    "We're all bozos on this bus"

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