Have you seen David Wilcock's latest update...?

[Wind]

Posted by RunningDeer (here)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5_lvfvO9ICI

I've known for years that this guy is a giant douche, but is this audio actually real?

I already regret buying his books. I'm not one for burning them, but... I'm considering it.

[ExomatrixTV]

Posted by Wind (here)

Posted by RunningDeer (here)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5_lvfvO9ICI

I've known for years that this guy is a giant douche, but is this audio actually real?

I already regret buying his books. I'm not one for burning them, but... I'm considering it.

I learned from experience that ANYONE can & may use sarcasm at some point in their life ... especially when someone is so fed up with something ... that can and eventually will be misunderstood and used against you.

For example: When Alex Jones is OBVIOUS sarcastic & hilarious ... Mainstream Media takes it literally and demand censorship and such ... Then when Alex Jones is serious with his "outrageous" insights/claims that WILL be vindicated in the near future, most (if not all) of Mainstream Media assume, insinuate or accuse Alex Jones must be a "Joker/Actor of disinfo" (a liar, thus from their perspective any ridiculisation towards AJ is "allowed") even if his claims gets proven in the near future. Vindication of whistler-blowers are rarely reported by the mass media for a good reason: It shows HOW status quo works and can get a way with it. Systematically FRAME (deliberately misrepresent) anyone that can pose a "threat" for their agenda by throwing sand in their well-oiled Propaganda Machine.

All of this is NOT to "defend" David Wilcock but just to be careful jumping to conclusions too fast no matter who or what by default. If not, I do not want to add more to the gaslighting going on towards certain (targeted by mob-mentality) individuals (no matter who it is).

cheers,
John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV'
May 15th, 2021

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Wind (here)
I already regret buying his books. I'm not one for burning them, but... I'm considering it.

I tossed the two books (or was it three?) years ago.

As for if it's really Davey? I just got finish listening to this 46 second vid on "his size".

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=KG9BUXkIRvg

[scotslad]

For me, he often curates legitimate photos from other sources and adds his fabricated and manufactured spin on it. I feel for many of the researchers and legitimate hard working individuals whose many works and researched get in included in his many presentations in an attempt to add credibility. I wonder how they'd feel as he tries to milk every last drop of useful content fused and mmixed into his egotistical monologues in attempt to get $$$ for his latest ascension courses

[Denise/Dizi]

I am not a fan of either David or Corey.... But I believe that the video that is posted above with the blue avian caption, is edited. Probably comments from other conversations cut and pasted to where it sounds as it does, as if you listen to it, it sounds a bit chopped up. Not to defend anyone, but this is a bad copy of a conversation that in my opinion, never happened. While they could be making everything up? I doubt they would speak about it like this...

[Agape]

I think that anyone who want to deal with “other-worldly truth” should take stronger inner precepts against lies than everyone else.

It’s how it really is. So called “ordinary human mind” is weak and prone to telling lies and embellishing or manoeuvring our perception of reality towards “the next step” of what we like it to be, call it re-routing.

Goal and ambition oriented people are exceptionally good in re-routing. In proper sense, functioning frontal cortex enables us to think and create our future version of reality.


Mind is a flow, endless river of thoughts, inhabited by countless living creatures ,
what is “mind” than memory of our reflections of what’s been ever felt, seen, heard in the vast Universe out there ?

But if you ask yourself “where is your mind?” at any present moment, even if someone forces you to confession and revelation : as if there was something “deeply substantial” in your mind that would proclaim itself under pressure, it won’t happen. See this is not how “mind” works.

So it can’t be how “objective reality” works either but to get back to the theme..


It’s only now, perhaps the end of the last century that we are trying to talk of other-worldly truths in scientific terms ( still mostly dismissed by rigidly programmed academics without own idea ) or invent new terms for phenomena surpassing previous versions of physics.

There is no status quod of human opinion as far as I’m aware of
but healthy mind from my point of view is inquisitive and caring mind.

Making fun of others in juvenile manner and stalking opponents
via social media suggests
that the persons intelligence - emotional complex
are not in their best.

If you still “need” to do this
your mind regresses to state of “confrontational teenager”.

It’s not a pretty state ( say we all have experienced it at one point at least)
and it’s shame to see anyone in position of authority
“behaving like that”,
even long term,

analysing each other via YouTube ,
threatening to take lives

and so forth.

This is too childish.


That’s why I’m saying that anyone who wishes to deal with other worldly truths need to take stronger inner precepts against lies and deceptions than everyone else.



In my case for example, I’ve taken such precepts when I was about 19 as serious Hindu, later then also Buddhist student ,
of meditation and philosophy and teaching then for years ..

it improved my understanding hugely.

Inner( and outer) truthfulness is not an easy path but if you can be utterly honest with yourself you get the chance to observe different states and transformations of mind and reality, as they happen.

Without naming them, by experiencing them , we learn to discern between illusion and reality.

Those who talk too much are generally caught in the game and don’t take the time to self reflect. No matter how much you talk nothing profoundly changes.


Many spiritual students in Europe and Americas are still caught in just talking too much and endless intellectual thrill of sublime analysis,

now can we get there by “just” retuning our mind to higher frequency and talking spontaneously for hours ?

Perhaps but so far the revelation velocity has been great while 90% of content is an extension of human thought.


I think that David may have been on his way somewhere with his research but got trapped in the loops of commerce.

Commercialism is total opposite of truth seeking. A hard lesson to learn for any truth seeker.

We now live surrounded by world based in smartism and deception the most.


There is a Big Question that remains for current Humanity to answer,
are we able to surpass our own deception without killing ourselves (, some of us, many of us ) first ?



Every true spiritual aspirant had to encounter this question, equation at least once in their history , I believe.

...


Peace in the Rest


🌟🕊🕊🕊

[Mashika]

Posted by RunningDeer (here)

Posted by Wind (here)
I already regret buying his books. I'm not one for burning them, but... I'm considering it.

I tossed the two books (or was it three?) years ago.

As for if it's really Davey? I just got finish listening to this 46 second vid on "his size".

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=KG9BUXkIRvg

I don't know about the books, never even tried to read or find out what's in them, but i did heard and read something about the graphic novel or comic book, and it was so cringe i could not even keep reading, i felt second hand embarrassment i had to look away. I said this before somewhere i think, but i will never , ever, be found with that self agrandazing terrible written 'thing' in my hands

And if you have not looked into it, better not even try, jebus....

[jaybee]

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)

Posted by Wind (here)

Posted by RunningDeer (here)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5_lvfvO9ICI

I've known for years that this guy is a giant douche, but is this audio actually real?

I already regret buying his books. I'm not one for burning them, but... I'm considering it.

I learned from experience that ANYONE can & may use sarcasm at some point in their life ... especially when someone is so fed up with something ... that can and eventually will be misunderstood and used against you.

For example: When Alex Jones is OBVIOUS sarcastic & hilarious ... Mainstream Media takes it literally and demand censorship and such ... Then when Alex Jones is serious with his "outrageous" insights/claims that WILL be vindicated in the near future, most (if not all) of Mainstream Media assume, insinuate or accuse Alex Jones must be a "Joker/Actor of disinfo" (a liar, thus from their perspective any ridiculisation towards AJ is "allowed") even if his claims gets proven in the near future. Vindication of whistler-blowers are rarely reported by the mass media for a good reason: It shows HOW status quo works and can get a way with it. Systematically FRAME (deliberately misrepresent) anyone that can pose a "threat" for their agenda throwing sand in thier well-oiled Propaganda Machine.

All of this is NOT to "defend" David Wilcock but just to be careful jumping to conclusions too fast no matter who or what by default. If not, I do not want to add more to the gaslighting going on towards certain (targeted by mob-mentality) individuals (no matter who it is).

cheers,
John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV'
May 15th, 2021

Thanks....

I'm reading this thread and thinking - WTF...

And also wondering....

'Where is the love....?'

Take it away Black Eyed Peas..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpYeekQkAdc

[jaybee]

Posted by Denise/Dizi (here)
I am not a fan of either David or Corey.... But I believe that the video that is posted above with the blue avian caption, is edited. Probably comments from other conversations cut and pasted to where it sounds as it does, as if you listen to it, it sounds a bit chopped up. Not to defend anyone, but this is a bad copy of a conversation that in my opinion, never happened. While they could be making everything up? I doubt they would speak about it like this...

The two short videos from YouTube channel 'Tere Joyce Investigates' are obvious fakes - IMO...

Under one of them someone asks where she got it and she links to another channel...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NI06KN-WpQ

and one of the comments under it is...

This is not even a phone call. The bits of David are taken from his Ascension Through the Ages video available on YouTube. https://youtu.be/P9OiszmswXo
Where David says "I don't know about you but I'm done" that comes from 46:20.
Where he says "We don't need to go through all this silly stuff" comes from 16:10 mark of the same video.
"Most of the people don't get it" again comes from the 51:50 mark of the same video.
"Gullible enough to believe this" comes from 48:25 of the same video. And son on.

I checked out one of the above and so presume they will all check out...

I feel like it's falling into a trap even to comment on a thread like this - but what can you do...

You're damned if you do and damned if you don't...

[Kryztian]

Posted by wondering (here)
Please don't misunderstand me - I am NOT a fan and haven't watched a DW video in MANY years...I just think about "any attention is good attention" and I feel we put energy into someone who does not deserve our energy or focus. Better to ignore him completely, but I know there's no fun in that.

This is not about fun, but about delving in to negativity to create a more positive world, something that is necessary to do.

You might not like to talk negatively about someone, but suppose a friend of yours was thinking of dating a man who was highly abusive and manipulative and perhaps even dangerous, but quite charming on the surface. You might briefly warn your friend but she say "but I really like him. He's a wonderful person." At that point you see a train wreck happening and your friend getting hurt. You realize the only way to protect your friend is to tell them all the horrible stories about that person. Do you go on a long rant and talk negatively about them or just allow the disaster to happen?

People in the criminology field spend most of there time focusing on negative individuals, trying to understand behaviors and detail their crimes - not because they enjoy the negativity - but because they want to make the world a safer place. There are a lot of people out there who say they are proclaiming the truth and many of them have Paypal accounts. Avalon has done an excellent job of exposing those who are concealing another agenda: Corey Goode, David Wilcock, Deborah Tavares, Pete Peterson, Mark Richards, etc. etc. etc. I think that is a noble task. Believe me, I did not enjoy watching Goode and Wilcock videos, but I did so to help people understand what is wrong with these people and where they went wrong.

[wondering]

Kryztian, I understand your point - my point is that we have done that and done that and done that....enough already. We know he is an unprincipled scoundrel, that has been made abundantly clear. I don't see the value. An entire, lengthy thread is dedicated to him being a wanker (I love that word!) It just seems like overkill. There really isn't anything else I want to say about it. We just ageee to disagree. 😁 Diane

[Agape]

I’ve met very few people who knew and were not pretentious with the difficult topic of ET Contact but luckily for me, I’ve met some following my 2002 Spaceship visit in Bodhgaya.
Insensitivity to the topic has already created lots of damage. Each time I write something it’s in in my own responsibility - and clear conscience - but there always is a risk of “biofeedback” from third parties.

There is no getting used to it in my case. I will always retake my freedoms but will always remain aware of my opponents :
most of whom have virtually nothing to contribute in this field of research other than criticise or, alternatively “get rid of the ET”.

Some people can’t swallow this very topic for fear of alienation from themselves or they well contemplated human destiny, some associate ET Contact with continuos nightmare,
missing the bigger picture of who we are , fireflies on the canvas of greater Universe.

Then come long narratives and sagas of story tellers that suit our “frenemies” the most, suggesting the whole thing is some kind of innocent joke.

This world is full of infallible, inflatable “humanists” who represent “majority of human populace”.

Someone like David serves those people the best, a live science fiction as rationally considered what more would you ?

A.C. Clark or Isaac Asimov were some of the brightest people who predicted technological future with accuracy.


Value of truth is more like the number of your erythrocytes per ml. It’s undeniably important to your thoughts, your vital functions and whatever life is about.

The value of a story that can be put on your face like a mask and taken off again, is null in my opinion.

Personally, I don’t need or watch any of this unless it was somehow important.


Only for reference and truths sake


🍵

[Kryztian]

Posted by wondering (here)
Kryztian, I understand your point - my point is that we have done that and done that and done that....enough already. We know he is an unprincipled scoundrel, that has been made abundantly clear. I don't see the value.

Diane, the problem is that someone started this thread asking "Do you think this information is a good idea?" I would be extremely happy to never have to discuss DW again, but this thread required an appropriate response, and there will be more responses from us as long as he is lurking around looking for new victims.

[Denise/Dizi]

Posted by Kryztian (here)

Posted by wondering (here)
Kryztian, I understand your point - my point is that we have done that and done that and done that....enough already. We know he is an unprincipled scoundrel, that has been made abundantly clear. I don't see the value.

Diane, the problem is that someone started this thread asking "Do you think this information is a good idea?" I would be extremely happy to never have to discuss DW again, but this thread required an appropriate response, and there will be more responses from us as long as he is lurking around looking for new victims.

I have to agree.

While I do not agree with the wasted energy of rehashing the same issues over and over again, we must remember that not everyone "wakes up" at the same time. And as such, it is a constant battle to inform those just waking, that indeed there is a history of this behavior, both on the part of DW and CG. And show each instance as one never knows which will actually effect those newcomers.

There are plenty of things that Wilcock has said, that incriminate him as anything less than loving and light, or "Enlightened" by any stretch of the imagination. Broken promises, receiving money under false pretenses, never repaying it...

Wilcock is in this for profit, period...

These things could be easily pushed forward again and again for those just coming to the "scene", but truly, these individuals in question continue to create a living track record of the same behavior. So it is relevant to continue to put forth that new information as well.. They collectively have redirected the field of truth and ufology so badly, that now when you look at the events being held, they're channelers, and those talking about higher vibrations and the like. And while there is a spiritual component to all of this, it is setting the "truth movement" backwards decades...

One could easily do exactly what Wilcock suggests in that last video.. Claim it is for "entertainment purposes", end of story... Yet he does not. At least not always... And there lies the danger of cult like followings by those who wish to have some "All Knowing Savior".. Someone supposedly" In the know" with sources, and "Intel"... In the case of Wilcock and Corey,"Intel" certainly isn't intelligence... It is more a cloaked reference that there are secrets that someone told them that can never be validated, and this is important. NEVER do they share any "Intel Sources" EVER....

They claim to "VET" them, tell us they have seen their credentials much, yet there never is ever a suggestion of actual credentials,or anything of the like. One would be better off going to a UFO convention, and talking to contactees, or veterans, who are now telling their stories of experiencing contact with these ships... At least they are telling their information firsthand... Without a "cloak of secrecy" that gives those such as Wilcock and Goode, the ability to say anything they want with impunity. Selling ideas of some reset, with humanity in some way being rescued. Those overwhelmed, wanting more than anything to believe this to be true.

The language he uses alone, is suspect, but those who want to hear something, will unknowingly ignore some phrases and words used, because they do not wish to see the truth. Nor are they willing to look harder for it when someone is willing to spoon feed them lies they wish to believe...

I have had contact, was given information, yet I would never claim to have the truth. Opinions and ideals, thoughts and ways of thinking are as unique to each individual, as our genetics... To believe that we are all the same, is a dangerous pastime... It is with time and experience that many learn, while we hope everyone sees the world the way we do, truly they do not, especially in this case.

I believe that David, with his interests in the past, ancient teachings, archeology, and all things that come along with that, seems to have found a "Niche" in which he can earn a living off of what he peddles.. When the large networks realize the guy truly isn't as wise as he claims to be, he ventures into a new arena to peddle his wares. He only made a strong showing in the alternate field of UFOLOGY because he appeared on the History Channel in the past, and has facial recognition, THAT ALONE should have you questioning what the History channel is truly peddling as well... So indeed this particular man should be HEAVILY SCRUTINIZED along with any network that will promote him...

So this is far bigger than two guys trying to make a buck in an arena where people are truly seeking truth. One having had appeared on mainstream television, teaching us "History"??? Think about that...

So Diane, I have to agree with Krytian here... It is important we continue to take on their "Teachings" and alert the herd to who they truly are.

[Mashika]

Posted by Denise/Dizi (here)

Posted by Kryztian (here)

Posted by wondering (here)
Kryztian, I understand your point - my point is that we have done that and done that and done that....enough already. We know he is an unprincipled scoundrel, that has been made abundantly clear. I don't see the value.

Diane, the problem is that someone started this thread asking "Do you think this information is a good idea?" I would be extremely happy to never have to discuss DW again, but this thread required an appropriate response, and there will be more responses from us as long as he is lurking around looking for new victims.

I have to agree.

While I do not agree with the wasted energy of rehashing the same issues over and over again, we must remember that not everyone "wakes up" at the same time. And as such, it is a constant battle to inform those just waking, that indeed there is a history of this behavior, both on the part of DW and CG. And show each instance as one never knows which will actually effect those newcomers.

There are plenty of things that Wilcock has said, that incriminate him as anything less than loving and light, or "Enlightened" by any stretch of the imagination. Broken promises, receiving money under false pretenses, never repaying it...

Wilcock is in this for profit, period...

These things could be easily pushed forward again and again for those just coming to the "scene", but truly, these individuals in question continue to create a living track record of the same behavior. So it is relevant to continue to put forth that new information as well.. They collectively have redirected the field of truth and ufology so badly, that now when you look at the events being held, they're channelers, and those talking about higher vibrations and the like. And while there is a spiritual component to all of this, it is setting the "truth movement" backwards decades...

One could easily do exactly what Wilcock suggests in that last video.. Claim it is for "entertainment purposes", end of story... Yet he does not. At least not always... And there lies the danger of cult like followings by those who wish to have some "All Knowing Savior".. Someone supposedly" In the know" with sources, and "Intel"... In the case of Wilcock and Corey,"Intel" certainly isn't intelligence... It is more a cloaked reference that there are secrets that someone told them that can never be validated, and this is important. NEVER do they share any "Intel Sources" EVER....

They claim to "VET" them, tell us they have seen their credentials much, yet there never is ever a suggestion of actual credentials,or anything of the like. One would be better off going to a UFO convention, and talking to contactees, or veterans, who are now telling their stories of experiencing contact with these ships... At least they are telling their information firsthand... Without a "cloak of secrecy" that gives those such as Wilcock and Goode, the ability to say anything they want with impunity. Selling ideas of some reset, with humanity in some way being rescued. Those overwhelmed, wanting more than anything to believe this to be true.

The language he uses alone, is suspect, but those who want to hear something, will unknowingly ignore some phrases and words used, because they do not wish to see the truth. Nor are they willing to look harder for it when someone is willing to spoon feed them lies they wish to believe...

I have had contact, was given information, yet I would never claim to have the truth. Opinions and ideals, thoughts and ways of thinking are as unique to each individual, as our genetics... To believe that we are all the same, is a dangerous pastime... It is with time and experience that many learn, while we hope everyone sees the world the way we do, truly they do not, especially in this case.

I believe that David, with his interests in the past, ancient teachings, archeology, and all things that come along with that, seems to have found a "Niche" in which he can earn a living off of what he peddles.. When the large networks realize the guy truly isn't as wise as he claims to be, he ventures into a new arena to peddle his wares. He only made a strong showing in the alternate field of UFOLOGY because he appeared on the History Channel in the past, and has facial recognition, THAT ALONE should have you questioning what the History channel is truly peddling as well... So indeed this particular man should be HEAVILY SCRUTINIZED along with any network that will promote him...

So this is far bigger than two guys trying to make a buck in an arena where people are truly seeking truth. One having had appeared on mainstream television, teaching us "History"??? Think about that...

So Diane, I have to agree with Krytian here... It is important we continue to take on their "Teachings" and alert the herd to who they truly are.

A constant problem with the web as it is and works is, if you stop talking about something, it will soon get buried in all the noise from the other side, so that new people looking into it will only see the most recent talk about it, and if no one is actively refreshing and reminding people about the bad stuff, then new people will only see the good things that are flowing around all over the web, which are always the top result if no one mentions the bad things

So it's a constant fight of keeping this effort alive, once people stop talking or bringing it up, those guys will have all the playground for themselves and claim "no one talk about that bad stuff because it was a lie, see?"

See on Reddit where threads die in a day or two. Regardless of how important the content was new stuff comes in, if no one talks about the important issue anymore, it gets buried in a matter of hours and no one will ever see it again unless they actively look for it

The fight never ends, and the web has a very short attention span

[TomKat]

Yes, I know everything David talks about is rumour or speculation, but I listened until he started saying the Law of One was his foundation. I draw the line at Draco propaganda. But now I know why he is so "off."

[Agape]

“The next time you’re invited for conference or homely visit with distant relatives, send a woolly mammoth.
It can do the garden, entertain the kids, walk you fearlessly to supermarket , swear in Spanish and more importantly, stand it’s grounds
as solid proof of evidence that someone loves you

nay consider your place in celestial hierarchy
and how much would woolly mammoth cost on local market.

The only historical contestant worth the challenge
of your physical prowess , on this planet.”


You say, ETs and mammoths don’t exist

but you may be wrong


🙊🙉🙈

[section9]

Posted by wondering (here)
I'm always a little dismayed that individuals on PA never seem to tire of trashing DW. Why is that so enjoyable? Necessary? Irresistible? I am not a fan at all, but why do we just go on and on about him. Hasn't the point been made? I seriously wonder about this. Diane

The gentleman spent at least 18 months peddling the Blue Chicken Op and Corey Goode to the Community. This was just after people started putting 2 and 2 together with regard to all the missing money.

Shill. Agency Shill at that.

[Gemma13]

Posted by wondering (here)
Kryztian, I understand your point - my point is that we have done that and done that and done that....enough already. We know he is an unprincipled scoundrel, that has been made abundantly clear. I don't see the value. An entire, lengthy thread is dedicated to him being a wanker (I love that word!) It just seems like overkill. There really isn't anything else I want to say about it. We just ageee to disagree. 😁 Diane

Agree.  It is abundantly clear to "Us". Especially those of us who have been drowning in this sh!t for years as we research the evidence to prove our case so "they" have a heads up before choosing to get financially, emotionally and mentally exploited and robbed.

Sadly though the "We" does not count for all the newbies coming onto the scene every day/week/month/year so vigilant members keep an eye out to ensure this news is regularly pinned to the board.  And this is a good opportunity to thank those that do

Then there are those that just need to let off a bit of steam with the occasional vent.  Can't say I blame 'em considering what these arseholes get away with.

[Open Minded Dude]

I saw a 'vintage' talk by him about 2012. He stated for a FACT (a FACT!) in that video that we would all be able to levitate after 2012. No joke. Now it's 2021 and I still don't see a lot of superhero flying people around here. Why did he get away with that alone?