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    A couple of weeks ago I had occasion to visit Woolpits, a small village in Suffolk. I was only there due to work and it would be a fleeting visit - in and out. I got a taxi from Bury St Edmunds to the village of Woolpits and remarked to the driver there seemed to be some history here.

    Turned out he was a bit of a local historian and he explained that 'Woolpits' wasn't anything to do with shearing sheep, as I had suspected, originally it was 'Wolf Pits'.
    A kind of trap to catch wolves. So that shows how long ago this was as the last records of wolves in England predate the 1400's

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    Quote The Children of Woolpit is an ancient account dating back to the 12 th century, which tells of two children that appeared on the edge of a field in the village of Woolpit in England. The young girl and boy had green-hued skin and spoke an unknown language. The children became sick and the boy died, but the girl recovered and over the years came to learn English. She later relayed the story of their origins, saying they came from a place called St Martin’s Land, which existed in an atmosphere of permanent twilight, and where the people lived underground. While some view the story as a folk tale that that describes an imaginary encounter with inhabitants of another world beneath our feet or even extraterrestrial, others accept it as a real, but somewhat altered account of a historical event that merits further investigation.

    The account is set in the village of Woolpit located in Suffolk, East Anglia. In the Middle Ages, it lay within the most agriculturally productive and densely populated area of rural England. The village had belonged to the rich and powerful Abbey of Bury St. Edmunds.

    The story was recorded by two 12 th century chroniclers - Ralph of Coggestall (died c 1228 AD), an abbot of a Cistercian monastery at Coggeshall (about 26 miles / 42 km south of Woolpit), who recorded his account of the green children in the Chronicon Anglicanum (English Chronicle); and William of Newburgh (1136-1198 AD), an English historian and canon at the Augustinian Newburgh Priory, far to the north in Yorkshire, who includes the story of the green children in his main work Historia rerum Anglicarum (History of English Affairs). The writers stated that the events took place within the reign of King Stephen (1135-54) or King Henry II (1154-1189), depending on which version of the story you read.
    The Story of the Green Children

    According to the account of the green children, a boy and his sister were found by reapers working their fields at harvest time near some ditches that had been excavated to trap wolves at St Mary’s of the Wolf Pits (Woolpit). Their skin was tinged with a green hue, their clothes were made from unfamiliar materials, and their speech was unintelligible to the reapers. They were taken to the village, where they were eventually accepted into the home of local landowner, Sir Richard de Caine at Wilkes.

    The children would not eat any food presented to them but appeared starving. Eventually, the villagers brought round recently harvested beans, which the children devoured. They survived only on beans for many months until they acquired a taste for bread.

    The boy became sick and soon succumbed to illness and died, while the girl remained in good health and eventually lost her green-tinged skin. She learned how to speak English and was later married to a man at King’s Lynn, in the neighboring county of Norfolk. According to some accounts, she took the name ‘Agnes Barre’ and the man she married was an ambassador of Henry II, although these details have not been verified. After she learned how to speak English, she relayed the story of their origins.

    The girl reported that she and her brother came from the “Land of Saint Martin”, where there was no sun, but a perpetual twilight, and all the inhabitants were green like them. She described another ‘luminous’ land that could be seen across a river.

    She and her brother were looking after their father’s flock, when they came upon a cave. They entered the cave and wandered through the darkness for a long time until they came out the other side, entering into bright sunlight, which they found startling. It was then that they were found by the reapers.
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    Thanks for a good introductory article. Just a few points if I may: 'chlorosis' is now considered to be 'a disease that never was', a catch-all name for a variety of nervous conditions suffered by young women in early industrial society, including what we now call anorexia. None of the details fit the Green Children case. There is no record of any Flemish community in the area. There was a Flemish invasion of East Anglia in the winter of 1173, but both chronicles agree the children appeared in summer. Being Flemish doesn't explain why the children were green, nor why nobody understood them: Woolpit was an aspiring market town on what was then the principal pilgrim route in England, and the children were taken to Richard de Calna, who is hard to trace, because it seems he was the head of Henry II's secret service. Nor, if they were only Flemish refugees or runaways, why would the case have interested any of the 'witnesses of such quality' cited by William of Newburgh - apparently including the king, de Calna, the head of the Knights Templar in England, the bishop of London and the ambassador Richard Barre, who married the girl if my thesis is correct - not to mention the Pope!

    Analog has a long tradition of publishing cutting-edge or controversial science articles, and as a frequent contributor at the time, when I went to Woolpit I didn't think I would find more than some local background for another article. I went armed with a set of questions supplied by a historian friend, and the trail that I uncovered was so detailed that by the time the article was accepted, it was clear there would be enough material for a book. That was published as "Children from the Sky" by Mutus Liber in Edinburgh in 2012, and I would recommend anyone who's interested in the story to read the investigation in full. It is a fascinating story and although I can scarcely believe what I'm looking at, it really looks like ET abductions, for experimental purposes, with the knowledge if not the connivance of at least some of the terrestrial authorities - the X-Files in the 12th century!
    So I could not find the book emboldened above, but have ordered a couple of other related books from Amazon. Maybe there is more to come..

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    Duncan Lunan is a scholar. He spent about 10 years researching for the book ‘The Green Children’.

    In recent years he eventually found one on the girl’s ancestors who resides in the USA.
    I understand from him he also has discovered more ancestors from the original girl.

    I also was in Woolpit back in 2010. I became a good friend of Duncan Lunan who expanded on a lot more evidential research beyond the book. It would deserve a movie.

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    I remember reading about this case, perhaps an earlier report on Avalon. From that report, it seems that wherever the children lived must have been a huge cavern which admitted quite a bit of light but not entire light since they seemed to have lived in a Cavern of the Earth which may have opened onto the Inner Earth Sun called the Smokey God. Apparently the land after this cavern had more light than the cavern which was reported to have some organism on the walls which was greenish light. They ate a type of BEAN which supplied them with most of their nutrition. The reason the boy died was because our Beans did not satisfy his hunger. They would have had to walk a crazy path to make their way to the surface of the planet 800 miles above. I also remember that they came out of an entrance in the hillside which was at first visible to them and which later disappeared (a hollowgram entrance for security). Possibly hundreds or thousands of years before people on the surface had to seek safety from a SUN which threatened to burn them to a crisp (as may be preparing to happen again), but they were advanced enough scientifically to create a secret hollowgram (sp.?) entrance. I recently read our Sun was now 3 million miles closer to us than it formerly was (possibly pushed aside by Planet X). There appear to be many communities in the inner earth and completely under the Smokey God sun. Some are Giants of various sizes and others just like us.

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    I also read about the Green children of Woolpits many years ago, a very interesting and compelling story, and it could very well be true.

    As an aside, don't you think it's heartening that were taken in by the locals and cared for. A century or two later and they would likely have been burned at the stake for being demons. God knows what would become of them in this crazy century!

    But I do not believe they were extraterrestrial. Possibly more ultra-terrestrial in origin - yet not from inner earth. I rather suspect they simply arrived from another reality, another dimension entirely, and the cave system they found served as a conduit/portal into this one.

    They were not the last 'visitors' from other dimensions, or alternate realities. There was the mysterious case of the man from Taured for instance. There are many, many more accounts of time slips too.
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    If I remember correctly, there are stories of blue people coming out from such places in America at some point... Apparently they were seen farming fields in the evening, and they would disappear during the daytime.

    This lines up with the blue people of kentucky as well. Perhaps offspring? It was found that if you take in too much suppliments, one could indeed turn their skin blue, and a man did it, and ended up all over the television some time age. (I believe it was colloidal silver?) Or something along those lines. But I do not believe that all of the blue skinned individuals were taking this supplement in order that their skin turned blue that long ago..

    I DO believe that we have a great number of caverns, caves, and spaces within this world, where others not only live but thrive. And "The Coming Race" is an example of someone who ended up in one of them, and then decided to go exploring...

    According to that book, there were many "Different" kinds of beings underneath us. The indians on the land in America tell of others coming from underground, and taking the indians below, and teaching them how to survive cataclysms. Teaching them to sprout bulbs or seeds, to grow food, etc. Do I believe green children could have wandered to the surface? Yup...

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    Quote Posted by aoibhghaire (here)
    Duncan Lunan is a scholar. He spent about 10 years researching for the book ‘The Green Children’.

    In recent years he eventually found one on the girl’s ancestors who resides in the USA.
    I understand from him he also has discovered more ancestors from the original girl.

    I also was in Woolpit back in 2010. I became a good friend of Duncan Lunan who expanded on a lot more evidential research beyond the book. It would deserve a movie.

    aoibhghaire
    https://www.thehighersidechats.com/d...een%20children

    Here is an interview of Duncan on THC.

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    Quote Posted by PurpleLama (here)
    Quote Posted by aoibhghaire (here)
    Duncan Lunan is a scholar. He spent about 10 years researching for the book ‘The Green Children’.

    In recent years he eventually found one on the girl’s ancestors who resides in the USA.
    I understand from him he also has discovered more ancestors from the original girl.

    I also was in Woolpit back in 2010. I became a good friend of Duncan Lunan who expanded on a lot more evidential research beyond the book. It would deserve a movie.

    aoibhghaire
    https://www.thehighersidechats.com/d...een%20children

    Here is an interview of Duncan on THC.
    Thank you very much.

    Fascinating.

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    I believe I forgot to post above that the children lived in a vast cavern whose surfaces were covered in a luminous green covering, which I believe also covered their skins. Such a substance is what lights up Fire Flys which are seen at night. Also, the Beans which they ate for sustenance appeared to be their main vegetable/protein source, unlike our Beans. When the boy came to the surface, our Beans did not satisfy him and he would not eat anything else apparently. He became ill and died. After some time, with bathing and being in the Sun, the green glowing substance on the girl's skin perished and she assumed normal coloring. I do not think they stepped from one dimension into ours because of the Hologram Exit on the hillside they used and later could not find because it had a timer which closed it for security.

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    My mum used to tell us a similar story when we were younger, she's from pakistan and the story is from her village:
    some people were digging a well, dug down a certain depth and came up to eat, when they went back down to dig the well some more they found a girl and boy with green skin sitting at the bottom. They got them out and took them home and offer'd them food and water but the kids would not eat or drink anything, it was decided after a day or so of this to put the kids back down the well they were digging because they were scared they would die if they didnt eat or drink water.
    They put the kids back and left for a bit, when they came back the kids were gone.

    my mum doesn't speak or read english so its pretty much impossible she read the or heard of the children in woolpit and copy'd the story,I allways thaught it was just a story until i heard about the children of woolpit. I'v learned not to take old wives tales as just story's, theres allways some kind of truth to these

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    Thank you for the story, that's very interesting indeed.

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    I'v learned not to take old wives tales as just story's, theres allways some kind of truth to these
    Oh absolutely. In consideration of that, I often remember this quote by JRR Tolkien, from The Lord of the Rings:

    Quote 'But do not despise the lore that has come down from distant years; for oft it may chance that old wives keep in memory word of things that once were needful for the wise to know.'
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    Quote Posted by SHABBA432 (here)
    My mum used to tell us a similar story when we were younger, she's from pakistan and the story is from her village:
    some people were digging a well, dug down a certain depth and came up to eat, when they went back down to dig the well some more they found a girl and boy with green skin sitting at the bottom. They got them out and took them home and offer'd them food and water but the kids would not eat or drink anything, it was decided after a day or so of this to put the kids back down the well they were digging because they were scared they would die if they didnt eat or drink water.
    They put the kids back and left for a bit, when they came back the kids were gone.

    my mum doesn't speak or read english so its pretty much impossible she read the or heard of the children in woolpit and copy'd the story,I allways thaught it was just a story until i heard about the children of woolpit. I'v learned not to take old wives tales as just story's, theres allways some kind of truth to these
    That is very interesting, thank you for posting that.

    There are several stories that crop up in cultures around the world, such as the creation myth/Adam and Eve story and the flood/deluge Noah and saving creatures story. To find this small obscure story pop up half-way across the world is intriguing and makes you wonder how many more versions of it there may be out there.

    We really don't know anything about the world before a certain point but for guesswork and myths.

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    "We really don't know anything about the world before a certain point but for guesswork and myths."

    I totally agree with you on this one, we don't know the half of it.

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