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    Default Why do UFOs crash?

    Since yet another mention of "crash" — The 16 Levels of Disclosure (Richard Dolan lecture) — would someone please explain how whomever has the seemingly advanced technology to arrive here from "there", yet they crash?? Seems like a bit of contradiction to me.... come all this way, or all this time, and silly humans take them down; or: they made a mistake??

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    Default Re: Why do UFOs crash?

    It's a question that's been asked many times. There seem to be three possibilities:
    • They're being taken down by some kind of weaponry (or, maybe sometimes by accident), such as by certain kinds of high-powered radar which may interfere in some way with their operation.
    • The local conditions on Planet Earth may be difficult for them to navigate in, rather like a ship which has no problems at sea but which is in danger when it gets too close to a shallow rocky coastline.
    • They're crashing deliberately, in order to 'seed' technology to humans. This has been seriously suggested quite a few times.

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    Default Re: Why do UFOs crash?

    Thanks Bill.

    I'm going with the third suggestion, as the other two just seem ridiculously simple for such an advanced entity to fail under.
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    Default Re: Why do UFOs crash?

    Quote Posted by DSKlausler (here)
    Thanks Bill.

    I'm going with the third suggestion, as the other two just seem ridiculously simple for such an advanced entity to fail under.
    Yeah, the radar excuse does smell like shenanigans; at the time of the Roswell crash radar was new technology for humans, so it's a natural instinct for a human brain to then assume 'trouble with this new radar thing' makes sense, but it doesn't make sense for space travellers.

    In the Hitch-hikers guide to the galaxy trilogy (of five), around the story of Arthur Dent, Adams includes a story of an isolated civilisation that can't see the rest of the universe because of some field around their planet blocking the light. Long story short a trouble maker made a UFO crash (staying mostly intact) onto this isolated planet, to advance their technology while they still had a backwards attitude of hating anything alien to them.

    This planet was called Krikkit and after reverse-engineering the alien ship they started the worst war of the universe: the Krikkit wars. In Adams world, the conventional game of cricket was made from a diluted universal memory of these terrible wars, and Earth cricket is considered as being in particularly bad taste. Adams invented Brockian Ultra-Cricket which involves attacking people with sports equipment then running to a safe distance to shout "Sorry!". But I digress, point is I wonder if Adams had his own suspicions about 'crashed ufos'?

    More about Adam's Krikkit: https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Krikkit

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    Default Re: Why do UFOs crash?

    A few more questions:
    • Why did so many of them crash in and around New Mexico around 1947?

    • Are there other places or times when we have seen a concentration of UFO crashes?

    • If you were a General or Admiral in the military and you saw a flying vehicle from an advanced civilization, why would you possibly want to bring it down if it isn't engaged in hostile action? Wouldn't you risk starting a war with a more advanced civilization?

    I was listening to ufologist Joe Murgia who was quoting "his sources" and says there is a type of UFO now frequently seen over the Atlantic Coast of the U.S. and "they are trying to bring it down." This just makes me gasp with horror, as when I hear there are mass UFO sightings in some parts of rural America and people show up with shotguns. (Well, that actually makes me giggle, thinking how ineffective a shotgun would be against an off world space ship.)
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    Default Re: Why do UFOs crash?

    Some Time Machines (us from the future) crash due to being an experimental aircraft using Bio-Engineered Robots (Synthetic Life + Quantum A.I.) ... Real human beings may not dare to test themselves using very risky 'time travel' tech for a reason.

    Many assume it "must" be "Alien" craft and they act very alien to us ... do things that does not make sense if you can travel extreme vast distances ... But it does make perfect sense if it is us from the future.

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    Default Re: Why do UFOs crash?

    I wonder if they really did crash or if it just wasn't their way of closer study! Imagine dumping technology (nothing that threatens you of course) on a culture or lets say, 'Strange Hominid' that you know is just intelligent enough to figure it out for their own purposes, a cell phone, and fiber optics, bundled antennae and things such as this that we now take for granted. Let us suppose that we really did go from horse and buggy to the moon in 80 years because something dumped technology on us to better understand what they discovered. What better way to observe them than by the phones we carry everywhere daily that are far more capable than any of the users! In fact even in courts of law the so called experts that put them together find that users have pointed out things they are doing that are not something even the experts were aware they did and stuff like this that indicates they (the ones that dumped this on us for study) put in back doors, other little things done so slickly that no one knows but we can figure they are using them to watch us daily. They also listen, and they track us to watch our movements over time. I'd say it is highly likely that all this advanced tech we have developed just in our life time is the result of an artificial outside source but some say I underestimate the human potential! I don't think I do. I don't recall any other time in history when we developed so quickly in less than 100 years like this. This advancement to where we are now by itself is an unprecedented event historically really.
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    I've always thought it quite the coincidence that the year ufo's started popping up in the US, 1947, dovetails so nicely with the very recent ending of WW 2 and the advent of Paperclip.

    It's also quite something that the crashes started happening in the same areas where one might wish to test out some of that advanced Nazi technology brought over.

    This is not to say there are no genuine ET craft, but I have to think they'd be a little more competent than that, and in the mean time crashed ET was a fine cover story while working out the bugs.
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    Default Re: Why do UFOs crash?

    https://static1.squarespace.com/stat...FO_Crashes.pdf

    Seven UFO Crashes & Retrievals in New Mexico
    1945–1948
    Presented to Highlands Ranch Historical Society June 17, 2017 (by CHUCK WADE)

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    Default Re: Why do UFOs crash?

    Everybody knows that when a spacecraft approaches a planet, it has to put itself into an orbit around the planet. As it orbits the planet, it can then choose where and when it's best to get closer to, or land on the planet. But, ..... being that the earth is flat, it throws the spacecrafts navigational systems all wonky and the poor beings flying the spacecraft are so discombobulated that occasionally they crash.

    Sometimes they crash on the underside of our planet. This is what we call an earthquake.

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    Default Re: Why do UFOs crash?

    Royal Reif (sp.?) is supposed to have used a frequency similar to Radar to bring down UFO's. This is why the US Govt. put him in jail (or that is what I remember reading years ago). This might suggest that some of what he brought down were actually the Nazi craft and the Nazi's were in league with the US Govt. under Project Paperclip at 1947. This possibility is even greater if he used his experiments years after 1947.

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    Default Re: Why do UFOs crash?

    All of the above.
    Plus everything makes mistakes. Theres plenty of testimony to say they (or some) are here to help fix their own genetics that they made mistakes with.

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    Default Re: Why do UFOs crash?

    Quote Posted by Gracy May (here)
    I've always thought it quite the coincidence that the year ufo's started popping up in the US, 1947, dovetails so nicely with the very recent ending of WW 2 and the advent of Paperclip.

    It's also quite something that the crashes started happening in the same areas where one might wish to test out some of that advanced Nazi technology brought over.

    This is not to say there are no genuine ET craft, but I have to think they'd be a little more competent than that, and in the mean time crashed ET was a fine cover story while working out the bugs.
    Keep in mind this around the same time that atomic energy was discovered. On July 16, 1945, in a remote desert location near Alamogordo, New Mexico, the first atomic bomb was successfully detonated—the Trinity Test. It created an enormous mushroom cloud some 40,000 feet high and ushered in the Atomic Age. During the years 1945-47 nuclear/atomic tests were being conducted all the time. Of course, there were reports of UFOs back in ancient times but the modern wave of UFO visits really coincided with nuclear energy/weapons.

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    Quote Posted by rgray222 (here)
    Quote Posted by Gracy May (here)
    I've always thought it quite the coincidence that the year ufo's started popping up in the US, 1947, dovetails so nicely with the very recent ending of WW 2 and the advent of Paperclip.

    It's also quite something that the crashes started happening in the same areas where one might wish to test out some of that advanced Nazi technology brought over.

    This is not to say there are no genuine ET craft, but I have to think they'd be a little more competent than that, and in the mean time crashed ET was a fine cover story while working out the bugs.
    Keep in mind this around the same time that atomic energy was discovered. On July 16, 1945, in a remote desert location near Alamogordo, New Mexico, the first atomic bomb was successfully detonated—the Trinity Test. It created an enormous mushroom cloud some 40,000 feet high and ushered in the Atomic Age. During the years 1945-47 nuclear/atomic tests were being conducted all the time. Of course, there were reports of UFOs back in ancient times but the modern wave of UFO visits really coincided with nuclear energy/weapons.
    Of course that's entirely possible, but then that leaves us once again throwing blind darts and making excuses as to why an advanced race such as the supposed Ebens for instance, were having trouble keeping their craft in the air for a while there.

    Given that choice the test pilot scenario just makes more sense to me as it's dangerous business, rather than having to explain away incompetence, but mileage may vary.
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    Default Re: Why do UFOs crash?

    If the late Ed Grimsley were here, I suspect he might suggest that some are shot down by other ET’s.

    Additionally, former USMC lance corporal Jonathan Weygandt of The Disclosure Project (who apparently was stationed at a missile base in Peru), stated that the UFO he was tasked with finding had “a large gash” in the back of it and that he suspected that “we had shot it down by a surface-to-air missile”.
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    Default Re: Why do UFOs crash?

    You do know that the pilots of the UFO's, are just rich kids from other planets getting kicks out of buzzing us with their 'Boy Racer vehicles'.
    sometimes they get out of had and crash.
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    good point !
    well explained in SS Brotherhood of the Bell by Farrell
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    As an interesting recent reference (23 May 2021), in this short segment of his interview Grant Cameron talks with Jacques Vallee about exactly this. Jacques Vallee feels that many or all of the crashes are likely to be 'gifts'. Start at 32:49.


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    Default Re: Why do UFOs crash?

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    It's a question that's been asked many times. There seem to be three possibilities:
    • They're being taken down by some kind of weaponry (or, maybe sometimes by accident), such as by certain kinds of high-powered radar which may interfere in some way with their operation.
    • The local conditions on Planet Earth may be difficult for them to navigate in, rather like a ship which has no problems at sea but which is in danger when it gets too close to a shallow rocky coastline.
    • They're crashing deliberately, in order to 'seed' technology to humans. This has been seriously suggested quite a few times.
    I propose option 4

    The UFO, may be not entirely on this space, and "in between spaces" or "universes"? Which is what allows them to move without observing the laws of physics

    If there is a discrepancy in the synchronization between the UFO position on his original space and ours, the earth may find it's way head front against the UFO, since it "moved up a little bit" and the UFO did not had time to react to the synchronization change... So it lands hard on earth, out of nowhere

    imagine a planet suddenly coming against you at an impossible to navigate away speed

    Maybe that's why the keep themselves on higher altitudes this days, or send "orbs" instead

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