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    Default Forced or mandatory vaccination

    I once saw a video of a burly man being force to take a jab in a hospital. Which now I cant find. If you see one please post it here. We might learn a thing or two what to do or what not to do in same circumstances.

    One thing for sure is that if one refuses to vaccinate he will be considered nuts by the medical ignorants which gives them more reason to use force.

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    Default Re: Forced or mandatory vaccination

    I just cannot see every single human being on the planet being forcibly vaccinated..what about the people who are considered 'underworld gangsters' of which I'm sure there are millions who have homes and legitimate names and addresses..they will not take to kindly to someone showing up on their doorstep with a big death jab,especially if they've done their homework on the dangers..the jabber could be looking down the barrel of a sawn off shotgun? ..just one of my mental thoughts..am I being too dramatic?

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    Things are really horrible in Israel regarding the vaccines. This woman is telling what she's been through. They're being forced to vaccinate or they can't work, buy food or travel within the country.

    Forcing people to take something violates the Nuremburg Code which is an automatic death sentence to the ones doing the forcing. I wonder how many ppl know this....

    Also, now I understand how the Nazis turned the world against Jews. These tactics are now being implemented in America with the increase of racism and who's vaccinated or not. Geez, it's so out of control....So, I present you with this short video by this Israeli woman who is reaching out to the world for help.

    https://brighteon.com/b405f91a-151a-...-0e34f81142e3/

    Source: https://www.brighteon.com/embed/b405f91a-151a-48a1-942a-0e34f81142e3
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    Here's the document that Mike Adams obtained, as reported in the post immediately above.

    https://lakecountyil.gov/DocumentCen...nfo-and-Script


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    Cross referencing this post from the Avoiding The Experimental Vaccine thread

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    The Commons will tomorrow be asked to vote on ‘draft Health and Social Care Act 2008 (Regulated Activities) (Amendment) (Coronavirus) Regulations 2021’

    Sounds fairly innocuous, no?

    These are actually the Regulations to bring in compulsory vaccination - not just for care staff…

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    Default Re: Forced or mandatory vaccination

    Candace Owens knocks it out of the park in her talk here. at around 20 min mark, she starts to give advice on dealing with employers forcing you to get jab

    https://www.facebook.com/15935181740...49243532365074

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    Default Re: Forced or mandatory vaccination

    I wonder, if there was a large amount of cash involved to get government representatives to push the jab narrative.

    Then, there must be a bonus system in place such that at certain percentages of the population having taken the shot there would be another cash instalment into their bank accounts.

    Oh yeah, I wonder.

    Also, I think that it would either take a very brave or a very stupid person volunteering to go door to door with this narrative.

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    Vaccine "strike force" That one really stood up. Doesn't something like that usually mean armed forces? They're getting really really desperate now.

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    Quote Posted by Matthew (here)
    Cross referencing this post from the Avoiding The Experimental Vaccine thread

    Quote Posted by extract
    The Commons will tomorrow be asked to vote on ‘draft Health and Social Care Act 2008 (Regulated Activities) (Amendment) (Coronavirus) Regulations 2021’

    Sounds fairly innocuous, no?

    These are actually the Regulations to bring in compulsory vaccination - not just for care staff…
    The bill passed. It means care home staff are mandated to have vaccinations, and so are all visitors. I heard that last part is in the small print. I believe this has focused old-guard and brought a selection of new people to the truth party. France is in our press as doing the same with mandatory vaccinations, which has raised eyebrows to some uninitiated... more of the globalist shadow being seen, because again it's perceived as a British politician u-turn, and they are betraying promises to the British people only to keep up with other countries. It's hard to not see that. Not sure the resurgence will help, but it's nice to see the focus on the abuse of government if nothing else

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    Default Re: Forced or mandatory vaccination

    Quote Posted by Matthew (here)
    Quote Posted by Matthew (here)
    Cross referencing this post from the Avoiding The Experimental Vaccine thread

    Quote Posted by extract
    The Commons will tomorrow be asked to vote on ‘draft Health and Social Care Act 2008 (Regulated Activities) (Amendment) (Coronavirus) Regulations 2021’

    Sounds fairly innocuous, no?

    These are actually the Regulations to bring in compulsory vaccination - not just for care staff…
    The bill passed. It means care home staff are mandated to have vaccinations, and so are all visitors. I heard that last part is in the small print. I believe this has focused old-guard and brought a selection of new people to the truth party. France is in our press as doing the same with mandatory vaccinations, which has raised eyebrows to some uninitiated... more of the globalist shadow being seen, because again it's perceived as a British politician u-turn, and they are betraying promises to the British people only to keep up with other countries. It's hard to not see that. Not sure the resurgence will help, but it's nice to see the focus on the abuse of government if nothing else

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    Re the bolded above - this is going to be a big problem for me.... my Mom is in a Care Home and I suppose I knew this was coming - but if it has now actually arrived I am going to have a real dilemma -

    If I am coerced into having the jab so my Mom doesn't feel abandoned and confused... I will not turn away when the death shot is applied - I will tell the nurse that they are killing me with a biological weapon and I want them to look me in the eye as they do it...

    Having a tough time emotionally today / tonight with all this crap and what the authoritarian monsters are doing to us all - it's just unbelievable that this is happening and there doesn't appear to be anyone in a position of power in politics or health or law or anyone that will push back... or has the ability to push back...

    'Ordinary people' are trying to push back a bit but the authoritarian monsters have got their evil all worked out to perfection...

    Alex Jones was on fire tonight and not mincing his words... he even said he thought he should take a break and I think he should because he has not let up for a second for years - god bless him... and he pondered whether his mission was over and that he could do no more - said he was having dinner with his parents and they were going to be discussing their own families' survival through these times...

    I am feeling a crushing sense of betrayal right now - from everyone who has helped engineer this nightmare situation - to those who have no idea what's going on... although it's not really betrayal from them (the sheep) because they just haven't been exposed to the information needed to see through all the dangerous nonsense -

    I've had a problem with this forum today no access and then slow loading etc - and I'm sorry but as this nightmare gathers pace I wonder how long Avalon can stay up and running.... because the info being shared here is top notch and 'they' don't like that... God Bless you Bill and everyone who has shared on this forum...

    I feel emotional and upset and frustrated and angry... tears are running down my face - and this is just the beginning of the engineered collapse of society...

    Might feel better tomorrow but right now I am in pieces with it all...

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    Default Re: Forced or mandatory vaccination

    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    Quote Posted by Matthew (here)
    Quote Posted by Matthew (here)
    Cross referencing this post from the Avoiding The Experimental Vaccine thread

    Quote Posted by extract
    The Commons will tomorrow be asked to vote on ‘draft Health and Social Care Act 2008 (Regulated Activities) (Amendment) (Coronavirus) Regulations 2021’

    Sounds fairly innocuous, no?

    These are actually the Regulations to bring in compulsory vaccination - not just for care staff…
    The bill passed. It means care home staff are mandated to have vaccinations, and so are all visitors. I heard that last part is in the small print. I believe this has focused old-guard and brought a selection of new people to the truth party. France is in our press as doing the same with mandatory vaccinations, which has raised eyebrows to some uninitiated... more of the globalist shadow being seen, because again it's perceived as a British politician u-turn, and they are betraying promises to the British people only to keep up with other countries. It's hard to not see that. Not sure the resurgence will help, but it's nice to see the focus on the abuse of government if nothing else

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    Re the bolded above - this is going to be a big problem for me.... my Mom is in a Care Home and I suppose I knew this was coming - but if it has now actually arrived I am going to have a real dilemma -

    If I am coerced into having the jab so my Mom doesn't feel abandoned and confused... I will not turn away when the death shot is applied - I will tell the nurse that they are killing me with a biological weapon and I want them to look me in the eye as they do it...

    Having a tough time emotionally today / tonight with all this crap and what the authoritarian monsters are doing to us all - it's just unbelievable that this is happening and there doesn't appear to be anyone in a position of power in politics or health or law or anyone that will push back... or has the ability to push back...

    'Ordinary people' are trying to push back a bit but the authoritarian monsters have got their evil all worked out to perfection...

    Alex Jones was on fire tonight and not mincing his words... he even said he thought he should take a break and I think he should because he has not let up for a second for years - god bless him... and he pondered whether his mission was over and that he could do no more - said he was having dinner with his parents and they were going to be discussing their own families' survival through these times...

    I am feeling a crushing sense of betrayal right now - from everyone who has helped engineer this nightmare situation - to those who have no idea what's going on... although it's not really betrayal from them (the sheep) because they just haven't been exposed to the information needed to see through all the dangerous nonsense -

    I've had a problem with this forum today no access and then slow loading etc - and I'm sorry but as this nightmare gathers pace I wonder how long Avalon can stay up and running.... because the info being shared here is top notch and 'they' don't like that... God Bless you Bill and everyone who has shared on this forum...

    I feel emotional and upset and frustrated and angry... tears are running down my face - and this is just the beginning of the engineered collapse of society...

    Might feel better tomorrow but right now I am in pieces with it all...
    I'm so sorry to read how you're feeling Jaybee. I wish I could give you a big hug.

    Without wanting to sound sugary - you really are not alone. There is still a sizeable number of the population who are unvaxxed and really worried and anxious too.

    I got myself into a state of worry a couple of weeks ago and broke out in a nasty rash - a solid, dark red block from my neck down to my abdomen and across my back! I knew it was time to focus on doing my best to let fear and sadness go - which is fairly do-able until you catch a news report on a big screen in a grocery store, spend time in a Forum or a friend emails links to Bitchute videos! My stomach gets in knots at the thought of how to avoid the news. I am scared of the vaccines being forced on us all - especially children and scared about passports.

    I understand how you feel with your Mum in a home and you facing the possibility of forced vaccine to visit her. Can you not have a PCR test instead? I know they're not ideal and are problematic but surely this can be an alternative?

    I'm in Canada and my folks in the UK. I can't abandon them and I'm scared about having a vaccine in order to enter the UK should anything happen to them. It goes against everything I feel and believe.

    We're all caught between a 'rock and a hard place' as the saying goes, because on one side there's the mainstream media and governments pushing fear and threatening totalitarian measures 24/7 and then on the other, the alternative community flooding the net with videos about how everyone vaxxed is going to die! Food shortages etc. It seems that there is little good news anywhere - well, there's plenty of hopium with nothing to show for it! Right now it feels like there's no way around this unless everyone stands up and says no! But that will also require the vaxxed too because I don't know exactly how big our numbers are.

    And all the talk about Trump coming back, med beds, Nesara Gesara etc feels like a cul-de-sac at the moment. I really want to believe but each day that goes past, the world plunges further into tyranny - and the speed is gathering momentum too!

    Like you, I'm stumped at the radio silence from many professional, influential, skilled people in this world who know it's wrong and who do have 'power' and money to launch a fight against this. I mean, if its emergency use only then it's illegal what is happening.

    I think the election fraud has highlighted that 'illegal' 'fraud' 'human rights' 'freedom' don't matter. It does feel like humanity has been abandoned unprotected. Lots of us will stand up and fight, but here in Canada, the numbers are still small compared to the UK or U.S that we'd probably be laughed at rather than shake Trudeau to his core! Most folk are still wearing masks outside! Most people are happy to go along with it.

    The other day when the CBC was spreading more hateful propaganda, about how the unvaccinated are the biggest threat to Ontario's freedom and the economy etc - how we are the one's that will send everyone into lockdown in the autumn and crash the economy by spreading deadly variants that even the vaxxed won't be protected against, well, I made the mistake of reading the comments and I'm shocked (though not really shocked actually) at the stream of hatred being spewed!

    It feels like we're backed into a corner and facing the inevitable.

    BUT .... BUT .... I believe in a spark of divinity within all of us that cannot be touched by 'gene therapy' or government enforced poison! We just need to understand how to tap into it, listen to what it needs and learn how to heal it.

    No matter what may potentially forced upon you, focus on that spark of light - your essence within you and I believe it can't be touched by any toxic liquid and that for those of us who want to, we should find out ways of how to heal. Perhaps this spark is a like a seed which can be regenerated and renewed once we know how to tend to it and nurture it. I feel this spark is connected to our immune system, I feel the spirit and immune system are interconnected. They are our most powerful allies if we listen to them and respect them. If we learn how to look after them, they'll take care of things for us. They'll have our backs covered.

    Sadly, some folk in this world may not make it but I believe many, many will - that is, those that ask their higher selves for guidance on how to heal through all this. Your higher self understands when you are being bullied or coerced. Ask it for help! If something happens where we can't refuse the jab, then we need a back-up plan and I reckon this has something to do with food, detoxing, and working on mental/emotional states.

    I have asked for help .... and much to my happiness and gratitude, it led me to enrolling on Don Tolman's Whole Food Medicine course (chock full of ancient wisdom!). I'm hoping to learn all I can and then be able to pass it on to anyone who needs help. I believe nature is an important route out of this.

    I know, many Avalonians have talked about this stuff before - much more articulately than me and with more experience too. But if you made it this far through my ramble, thank you for reading. xxx

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    Default Re: Forced or mandatory vaccination

    Quote Posted by Bassplayer1 (here)
    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    Quote Posted by Matthew (here)
    Quote Posted by Matthew (here)
    Cross referencing this post from the Avoiding The Experimental Vaccine thread

    Quote Posted by extract
    The Commons will tomorrow be asked to vote on ‘draft Health and Social Care Act 2008 (Regulated Activities) (Amendment) (Coronavirus) Regulations 2021’

    Sounds fairly innocuous, no?

    These are actually the Regulations to bring in compulsory vaccination - not just for care staff…
    The bill passed. It means care home staff are mandated to have vaccinations, and so are all visitors. I heard that last part is in the small print. I believe this has focused old-guard and brought a selection of new people to the truth party. France is in our press as doing the same with mandatory vaccinations, which has raised eyebrows to some uninitiated... more of the globalist shadow being seen, because again it's perceived as a British politician u-turn, and they are betraying promises to the British people only to keep up with other countries. It's hard to not see that. Not sure the resurgence will help, but it's nice to see the focus on the abuse of government if nothing else

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    Re the bolded above - this is going to be a big problem for me.... my Mom is in a Care Home and I suppose I knew this was coming - but if it has now actually arrived I am going to have a real dilemma -

    If I am coerced into having the jab so my Mom doesn't feel abandoned and confused... I will not turn away when the death shot is applied - I will tell the nurse that they are killing me with a biological weapon and I want them to look me in the eye as they do it...

    Having a tough time emotionally today / tonight with all this crap and what the authoritarian monsters are doing to us all - it's just unbelievable that this is happening and there doesn't appear to be anyone in a position of power in politics or health or law or anyone that will push back... or has the ability to push back...

    'Ordinary people' are trying to push back a bit but the authoritarian monsters have got their evil all worked out to perfection...

    Alex Jones was on fire tonight and not mincing his words... he even said he thought he should take a break and I think he should because he has not let up for a second for years - god bless him... and he pondered whether his mission was over and that he could do no more - said he was having dinner with his parents and they were going to be discussing their own families' survival through these times...

    I am feeling a crushing sense of betrayal right now - from everyone who has helped engineer this nightmare situation - to those who have no idea what's going on... although it's not really betrayal from them (the sheep) because they just haven't been exposed to the information needed to see through all the dangerous nonsense -

    I've had a problem with this forum today no access and then slow loading etc - and I'm sorry but as this nightmare gathers pace I wonder how long Avalon can stay up and running.... because the info being shared here is top notch and 'they' don't like that... God Bless you Bill and everyone who has shared on this forum...

    I feel emotional and upset and frustrated and angry... tears are running down my face - and this is just the beginning of the engineered collapse of society...

    Might feel better tomorrow but right now I am in pieces with it all...
    I'm so sorry to read how you're feeling Jaybee. I wish I could give you a big hug.

    Without wanting to sound sugary - you really are not alone. There is still a sizeable number of the population who are unvaxxed and really worried and anxious too.

    I got myself into a state of worry a couple of weeks ago and broke out in a nasty rash - a solid, dark red block from my neck down to my abdomen and across my back! I knew it was time to focus on doing my best to let fear and sadness go - which is fairly do-able until you catch a news report on a big screen in a grocery store, spend time in a Forum or a friend emails links to Bitchute videos! My stomach gets in knots at the thought of how to avoid the news. I am scared of the vaccines being forced on us all - especially children and scared about passports.

    I understand how you feel with your Mum in a home and you facing the possibility of forced vaccine to visit her. Can you not have a PCR test instead? I know they're not ideal and are problematic but surely this can be an alternative?

    I'm in Canada and my folks in the UK. I can't abandon them and I'm scared about having a vaccine in order to enter the UK should anything happen to them. It goes against everything I feel and believe.

    We're all caught between a 'rock and a hard place' as the saying goes, because on one side there's the mainstream media and governments pushing fear and threatening totalitarian measures 24/7 and then on the other, the alternative community flooding the net with videos about how everyone vaxxed is going to die! Food shortages etc. It seems that there is little good news anywhere - well, there's plenty of hopium with nothing to show for it! Right now it feels like there's no way around this unless everyone stands up and says no! But that will also require the vaxxed too because I don't know exactly how big our numbers are.

    And all the talk about Trump coming back, med beds, Nesara Gesara etc feels like a cul-de-sac at the moment. I really want to believe but each day that goes past, the world plunges further into tyranny - and the speed is gathering momentum too!

    Like you, I'm stumped at the radio silence from many professional, influential, skilled people in this world who know it's wrong and who do have 'power' and money to launch a fight against this. I mean, if its emergency use only then it's illegal what is happening.

    I think the election fraud has highlighted that 'illegal' 'fraud' 'human rights' 'freedom' don't matter. It does feel like humanity has been abandoned unprotected. Lots of us will stand up and fight, but here in Canada, the numbers are still small compared to the UK or U.S that we'd probably be laughed at rather than shake Trudeau to his core! Most folk are still wearing masks outside! Most people are happy to go along with it.

    The other day when the CBC was spreading more hateful propaganda, about how the unvaccinated are the biggest threat to Ontario's freedom and the economy etc - how we are the one's that will send everyone into lockdown in the autumn and crash the economy by spreading deadly variants that even the vaxxed won't be protected against, well, I made the mistake of reading the comments and I'm shocked (though not really shocked actually) at the stream of hatred being spewed!

    It feels like we're backed into a corner and facing the inevitable.

    BUT .... BUT .... I believe in a spark of divinity within all of us that cannot be touched by 'gene therapy' or government enforced poison! We just need to understand how to tap into it, listen to what it needs and learn how to heal it.

    No matter what may potentially forced upon you, focus on that spark of light - your essence within you and I believe it can't be touched by any toxic liquid and that for those of us who want to, we should find out ways of how to heal. Perhaps this spark is a like a seed which can be regenerated and renewed once we know how to tend to it and nurture it. I feel this spark is connected to our immune system, I feel the spirit and immune system are interconnected. They are our most powerful allies if we listen to them and respect them. If we learn how to look after them, they'll take care of things for us. They'll have our backs covered.

    Sadly, some folk in this world may not make it but I believe many, many will - that is, those that ask their higher selves for guidance on how to heal through all this. Your higher self understands when you are being bullied or coerced. Ask it for help! If something happens where we can't refuse the jab, then we need a back-up plan and I reckon this has something to do with food, detoxing, and working on mental/emotional states.

    I have asked for help .... and much to my happiness and gratitude, it led me to enrolling on Don Tolman's Whole Food Medicine course (chock full of ancient wisdom!). I'm hoping to learn all I can and then be able to pass it on to anyone who needs help. I believe nature is an important route out of this.

    I know, many Avalonians have talked about this stuff before - much more articulately than me and with more experience too. But if you made it this far through my ramble, thank you for reading. xxx

    Thank you so much for your thoughtful and helpful post -

    You bring up many good and useful points... I've read through a couple of times (early morning in the UK at the moment).... and will no doubt come back to it again ......

    xxx

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    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    Quote Posted by Bassplayer1 (here)
    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    Quote Posted by Matthew (here)
    Quote Posted by Matthew (here)
    Cross referencing this post from the Avoiding The Experimental Vaccine thread

    Quote Posted by extract
    The Commons will tomorrow be asked to vote on ‘draft Health and Social Care Act 2008 (Regulated Activities) (Amendment) (Coronavirus) Regulations 2021’

    Sounds fairly innocuous, no?

    These are actually the Regulations to bring in compulsory vaccination - not just for care staff…
    The bill passed. It means care home staff are mandated to have vaccinations, and so are all visitors. I heard that last part is in the small print. I believe this has focused old-guard and brought a selection of new people to the truth party. France is in our press as doing the same with mandatory vaccinations, which has raised eyebrows to some uninitiated... more of the globalist shadow being seen, because again it's perceived as a British politician u-turn, and they are betraying promises to the British people only to keep up with other countries. It's hard to not see that. Not sure the resurgence will help, but it's nice to see the focus on the abuse of government if nothing else

    Ayes 319
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    Re the bolded above - this is going to be a big problem for me.... my Mom is in a Care Home and I suppose I knew this was coming - but if it has now actually arrived I am going to have a real dilemma -

    If I am coerced into having the jab so my Mom doesn't feel abandoned and confused... I will not turn away when the death shot is applied - I will tell the nurse that they are killing me with a biological weapon and I want them to look me in the eye as they do it...

    Having a tough time emotionally today / tonight with all this crap and what the authoritarian monsters are doing to us all - it's just unbelievable that this is happening and there doesn't appear to be anyone in a position of power in politics or health or law or anyone that will push back... or has the ability to push back...

    'Ordinary people' are trying to push back a bit but the authoritarian monsters have got their evil all worked out to perfection...

    Alex Jones was on fire tonight and not mincing his words... he even said he thought he should take a break and I think he should because he has not let up for a second for years - god bless him... and he pondered whether his mission was over and that he could do no more - said he was having dinner with his parents and they were going to be discussing their own families' survival through these times...

    I am feeling a crushing sense of betrayal right now - from everyone who has helped engineer this nightmare situation - to those who have no idea what's going on... although it's not really betrayal from them (the sheep) because they just haven't been exposed to the information needed to see through all the dangerous nonsense -

    I've had a problem with this forum today no access and then slow loading etc - and I'm sorry but as this nightmare gathers pace I wonder how long Avalon can stay up and running.... because the info being shared here is top notch and 'they' don't like that... God Bless you Bill and everyone who has shared on this forum...

    I feel emotional and upset and frustrated and angry... tears are running down my face - and this is just the beginning of the engineered collapse of society...

    Might feel better tomorrow but right now I am in pieces with it all...
    I'm so sorry to read how you're feeling Jaybee. I wish I could give you a big hug.

    Without wanting to sound sugary - you really are not alone. There is still a sizeable number of the population who are unvaxxed and really worried and anxious too.

    I got myself into a state of worry a couple of weeks ago and broke out in a nasty rash - a solid, dark red block from my neck down to my abdomen and across my back! I knew it was time to focus on doing my best to let fear and sadness go - which is fairly do-able until you catch a news report on a big screen in a grocery store, spend time in a Forum or a friend emails links to Bitchute videos! My stomach gets in knots at the thought of how to avoid the news. I am scared of the vaccines being forced on us all - especially children and scared about passports.

    I understand how you feel with your Mum in a home and you facing the possibility of forced vaccine to visit her. Can you not have a PCR test instead? I know they're not ideal and are problematic but surely this can be an alternative?

    I'm in Canada and my folks in the UK. I can't abandon them and I'm scared about having a vaccine in order to enter the UK should anything happen to them. It goes against everything I feel and believe.

    We're all caught between a 'rock and a hard place' as the saying goes, because on one side there's the mainstream media and governments pushing fear and threatening totalitarian measures 24/7 and then on the other, the alternative community flooding the net with videos about how everyone vaxxed is going to die! Food shortages etc. It seems that there is little good news anywhere - well, there's plenty of hopium with nothing to show for it! Right now it feels like there's no way around this unless everyone stands up and says no! But that will also require the vaxxed too because I don't know exactly how big our numbers are.

    And all the talk about Trump coming back, med beds, Nesara Gesara etc feels like a cul-de-sac at the moment. I really want to believe but each day that goes past, the world plunges further into tyranny - and the speed is gathering momentum too!

    Like you, I'm stumped at the radio silence from many professional, influential, skilled people in this world who know it's wrong and who do have 'power' and money to launch a fight against this. I mean, if its emergency use only then it's illegal what is happening.

    I think the election fraud has highlighted that 'illegal' 'fraud' 'human rights' 'freedom' don't matter. It does feel like humanity has been abandoned unprotected. Lots of us will stand up and fight, but here in Canada, the numbers are still small compared to the UK or U.S that we'd probably be laughed at rather than shake Trudeau to his core! Most folk are still wearing masks outside! Most people are happy to go along with it.

    The other day when the CBC was spreading more hateful propaganda, about how the unvaccinated are the biggest threat to Ontario's freedom and the economy etc - how we are the one's that will send everyone into lockdown in the autumn and crash the economy by spreading deadly variants that even the vaxxed won't be protected against, well, I made the mistake of reading the comments and I'm shocked (though not really shocked actually) at the stream of hatred being spewed!

    It feels like we're backed into a corner and facing the inevitable.

    BUT .... BUT .... I believe in a spark of divinity within all of us that cannot be touched by 'gene therapy' or government enforced poison! We just need to understand how to tap into it, listen to what it needs and learn how to heal it.

    No matter what may potentially forced upon you, focus on that spark of light - your essence within you and I believe it can't be touched by any toxic liquid and that for those of us who want to, we should find out ways of how to heal. Perhaps this spark is a like a seed which can be regenerated and renewed once we know how to tend to it and nurture it. I feel this spark is connected to our immune system, I feel the spirit and immune system are interconnected. They are our most powerful allies if we listen to them and respect them. If we learn how to look after them, they'll take care of things for us. They'll have our backs covered.

    Sadly, some folk in this world may not make it but I believe many, many will - that is, those that ask their higher selves for guidance on how to heal through all this. Your higher self understands when you are being bullied or coerced. Ask it for help! If something happens where we can't refuse the jab, then we need a back-up plan and I reckon this has something to do with food, detoxing, and working on mental/emotional states.

    I have asked for help .... and much to my happiness and gratitude, it led me to enrolling on Don Tolman's Whole Food Medicine course (chock full of ancient wisdom!). I'm hoping to learn all I can and then be able to pass it on to anyone who needs help. I believe nature is an important route out of this.

    I know, many Avalonians have talked about this stuff before - much more articulately than me and with more experience too. But if you made it this far through my ramble, thank you for reading. xxx

    Thank you so much for your thoughtful and helpful post -

    You bring up many good and useful points... I've read through a couple of times (early morning in the UK at the moment).... and will no doubt come back to it again ......

    xxx
    I hope you're feeling better today Jaybee.
    Even if it feels like it, you're definitely not alone. I find Avalon a source of comfort.
    Let's hope we can keep our energy up and try to be fearless and not to give the evil entities 'food.'

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    Quote Posted by Matthew (here)
    Quote Posted by Matthew (here)
    Cross referencing this post from the Avoiding The Experimental Vaccine thread

    Quote Posted by extract
    The Commons will tomorrow be asked to vote on ‘draft Health and Social Care Act 2008 (Regulated Activities) (Amendment) (Coronavirus) Regulations 2021’

    Sounds fairly innocuous, no?

    These are actually the Regulations to bring in compulsory vaccination - not just for care staff…
    The bill passed. It means care home staff are mandated to have vaccinations, and so are all visitors. I heard that last part is in the small print. I believe this has focused old-guard and brought a selection of new people to the truth party. France is in our press as doing the same with mandatory vaccinations, which has raised eyebrows to some uninitiated... more of the globalist shadow being seen, because again it's perceived as a British politician u-turn, and they are betraying promises to the British people only to keep up with other countries. It's hard to not see that. Not sure the resurgence will help, but it's nice to see the focus on the abuse of government if nothing else

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    But it does still have to go through the House of Lords.

    Fingers crossed they throw it back to the Commons with a ton of amendments or exercise powers to rip it up..

    In the meantime the 4pm Committee from yesterday (July 13th) can be listened to and downloaded (as I have done) here:

    https://parliamentlive.tv/Event/Inde...1f#player-tabs

    Secondary Legislation Scrutiny Committee
    Tuesday 13 July 2021 Meeting started at 4.04pm, ended 5.00pm


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    Event Name Secondary Legislation Scrutiny Committee
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    Event Type Select committee
    Date Tue 13 Jul 2021
    Start Time 16:05:03
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    Zahawi et al were ordered to present evidence before the 3rd reading in the HoC and the vote.

    The draft legislation available here:

    Source: UK Parliament
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    The only Lord I know of with the balls to stand up to this is Claire Fox. Previously, with other freedom eroding legislation, Claire said she had one or two allies, some of which had their name down to speak but didn't actually speak, with some leaving sheepishly (intended) before the issue was debated. Claire Fox continues to stand up for freedoms but she can't do it on her own.

    Basically what I'm saying is I doubt you are right, and I'm so cynical now I'd go as far as saying dream on, but I hope you're right - I hope you know something I don't. I'm not trying to have a go at you, ...I just have no reason to believe The House of Lords will reject this. My cynicism and your grain of hope won't effect the outcome. But I am 100% rooting for you to be right in this case!!!

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    I am very puzzled by something, as I suspect many of us have at least pondered the same. This is neither on nor off topic, it could have been posted in many threads.

    The Rockerfeller Foundation doucument from 2010 entitled Scenarios for the Future of Technology and International Development was where we saw

    "LOCK STEP – A world of tighter top-down
    government control and more authoritarian
    leadership, with limited innovation and
    growing citizen pushback."


    And the literal scenario of a global pandemic.

    "In 2012, the pandemic that the world had been
    anticipating for years finally hit. Unlike 2009’s
    H1N1, this new influenza strain—originating
    from wild geese—was extremely virulent and
    deadly. Even the most pandemic-prepared
    nations were quickly overwhelmed when the
    virus streaked around the world, infecting nearly
    20 percent of the global population and killing
    8 million in just seven months, the majority of
    them healthy young adults. The pandemic also
    had a deadly effect on economies: international
    mobility of both people and goods screeched to
    a halt, debilitating industries like tourism and
    breaking global supply chains. Even locally,
    normally bustling shops and office buildings sat
    empty for months, devoid of both employees
    and customers.
    The pandemic blanketed the planet—though
    disproportionate numbers died in Africa,
    Southeast Asia, and Central America, where
    the virus spread like wildfire in the absence
    of official containment protocols. But even
    in developed countries, containment was a
    challenge. The United States’s initial policy of
    “strongly discouraging” citizens from flying
    proved deadly in its leniency, accelerating the
    spread of the virus not just within the U.S. but
    across borders. However, a few countries did
    fare better—China in particular. The Chinese
    government’s quick imposition and enforcement
    of mandatory quarantine for all citizens, as well
    as its instant and near-hermetic sealing off of
    all borders, saved millions of lives, stopping
    the spread of the virus far earlier than in other
    countries and enabling a swifter postpandemic recovery."


    The question is, just what were the leaders of all these countries promised in order to march in LOCK STEP, they can't all be gullible idiots listening to their Science and Medical advisors. AND those very Science and Medical advisors must all have been promised pretty much the same thing.

    Speculation: Have they been promised survival elsewhere from a coming (from a human point of view) catastrophe.

    But wait, if there is an impending disaster/catastrophe why do they need to vaccinate everyone. With limited jigsaw pieces one cannot contemplate the whole picture.

    And if I were in a position to survive an impending catastrophe and save a few others the last people I would want with me are a bunch of self-serving egomaniacs lusting for power - even if I was also of that ilk.

    So, as Savannah speculates in this thread about many possibilities still none of those provide me with the vital piece of the jigsaw needed to make some kind of sense with what is happening. (Which is not to say her thread is a waste of time, far from it, one has to look at all possibilities).

    What is this push for vaccinations (which aren't vaccinations!) for?

    It does seem a 10, 20, 50 year pole reversal is imminent. That in itself would probably be enough to usher in their dreamt of New World Order, a One World Govt. (Which, you know, wouldn't be that bad if they weren't all psychopaths lacking all integrity).

    But then we know the Chinese and the Russians are not about to get into any cosy relationship with America. So is America perhaps just a pawn, when they complete their move they will just be swept aside by some larger Machivellian move.

    Or is the game being played on many levels where the majority of the players have not the faintest idea what is really happening.

    Does anyone have an idea on the missing pieces of this jigsaw?

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    Quote Posted by Ewan (here)
    But wait, if there is an impending disaster/catastrophe why do they need to vaccinate everyone. With limited jigsaw pieces one cannot contemplate the whole picture.

    And if I were in a position to survive an impending catastrophe and save a few others the last people I would want with me are a bunch of self-serving egomaniacs lusting for power - even if I was also of that ilk.

    So, as Savannah speculates in this thread about many possibilities still none of those provide me with the vital piece of the jigsaw needed to make some kind of sense with what is happening. (Which is not to say her thread is a waste of time, far from it, one has to look at all possibilities).

    What is this push for vaccinations (which aren't vaccinations!) for?

    It does seem a 10, 20, 50 year pole reversal is imminent. That in itself would probably be enough to usher in their dreamt of New World Order, a One World Govt. (Which, you know, wouldn't be that bad if they weren't all psychopaths lacking all integrity).

    But then we know the Chinese and the Russians are not about to get into any cosy relationship with America. So is America perhaps just a pawn, when they complete their move they will just be swept aside by some larger Machivellian move.

    Or is the game being played on many levels where the majority of the players have not the faintest idea what is really happening.

    Does anyone have an idea on the missing pieces of this jigsaw?

    If you've got your hidey hole prepared, you still have to plan for the moment when the cataclysm becomes common knowledge. At that point 8 billion people will all have an opinion on who should be in the hidey hole and you risk losing control.

    Unless those 8 billion people are suddenly far less than 8 billion and those that remain are sick, grieving and utterly divided amongst themselves thanks to the psy-ops you've carefully prepared over many years.

    https://amallulla.org/#COVID-19_and_travel_restrictions
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    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    Quote Posted by Matthew (here)
    Quote Posted by Matthew (here)
    Cross referencing this post from the Avoiding The Experimental Vaccine thread

    Quote Posted by extract
    The Commons will tomorrow be asked to vote on ‘draft Health and Social Care Act 2008 (Regulated Activities) (Amendment) (Coronavirus) Regulations 2021’

    Sounds fairly innocuous, no?

    These are actually the Regulations to bring in compulsory vaccination - not just for care staff…
    The bill passed. It means care home staff are mandated to have vaccinations, and so are all visitors. I heard that last part is in the small print. I believe this has focused old-guard and brought a selection of new people to the truth party. France is in our press as doing the same with mandatory vaccinations, which has raised eyebrows to some uninitiated... more of the globalist shadow being seen, because again it's perceived as a British politician u-turn, and they are betraying promises to the British people only to keep up with other countries. It's hard to not see that. Not sure the resurgence will help, but it's nice to see the focus on the abuse of government if nothing else

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    Re the bolded above - this is going to be a big problem for me.... my Mom is in a Care Home and I suppose I knew this was coming - but if it has now actually arrived I am going to have a real dilemma -

    If I am coerced into having the jab so my Mom doesn't feel abandoned and confused... I will not turn away when the death shot is applied - I will tell the nurse that they are killing me with a biological weapon and I want them to look me in the eye as they do it...

    Having a tough time emotionally today / tonight with all this crap and what the authoritarian monsters are doing to us all - it's just unbelievable that this is happening and there doesn't appear to be anyone in a position of power in politics or health or law or anyone that will push back... or has the ability to push back...

    'Ordinary people' are trying to push back a bit but the authoritarian monsters have got their evil all worked out to perfection...

    Alex Jones was on fire tonight and not mincing his words... he even said he thought he should take a break and I think he should because he has not let up for a second for years - god bless him... and he pondered whether his mission was over and that he could do no more - said he was having dinner with his parents and they were going to be discussing their own families' survival through these times...

    I am feeling a crushing sense of betrayal right now - from everyone who has helped engineer this nightmare situation - to those who have no idea what's going on... although it's not really betrayal from them (the sheep) because they just haven't been exposed to the information needed to see through all the dangerous nonsense -

    I've had a problem with this forum today no access and then slow loading etc - and I'm sorry but as this nightmare gathers pace I wonder how long Avalon can stay up and running.... because the info being shared here is top notch and 'they' don't like that... God Bless you Bill and everyone who has shared on this forum...

    I feel emotional and upset and frustrated and angry... tears are running down my face - and this is just the beginning of the engineered collapse of society...

    Might feel better tomorrow but right now I am in pieces with it all...
    I'm watching a debate hosted by Dan Wootton, with Silkie Carlio (Director of Big Brother Watch) and she just said "No, not visitors but contract workers". She is against these measures, and that's her interpretation. As and when there's a linkable version of the video available I'll post it ITT

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    Spoke with a customer of mine yesterday, his daughter works at a hospital where she examines blood samples of all people admitted, her hospital wanted her vaccinated with this experimental shot, she hired an attorney and the hospital backed down , she still has her job but they are moving her around a bit more. That video of that woman from Israel is right on . Hold the line, there are many, many more people out there worldwide that know the path and the truth.

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