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    Dear Friends, some of you who followed Project Camelot closely in the early days may possibly remember this.

    In October 2008, Kerry and I were attending a conference in Australia, and very early in the morning we were woken by a phone call from Dr Bill Deagle, who was so upset he could hardly speak.

    Dr Bill told us he'd had an exceptionally vivid and traumatic dream — practically a vision — of a nuclear attack on an American city. Those of you who know Dr Bill will be aware that he's as tough as they come. But he was nearly in tears in his phone call to us.

    We called him back a short while later, to record what he had to say so we could share it at the conference where we were due to speak.

    Here's the audio. It goes on for a while, but Dr Bill reports most of his experience in full in the first few minutes.

    https://projectavalon.net/bill_deagle_4_oct_2008.mp3

    Of course, that nuclear attack didn't transpire. Many used it to criticize him (and us!). Others, including ourselves, felt that he had seen something that was authentic and imminent but on a different timeline, which is how come we'd never experienced the event ourselves.

    Of course, there's another theoretical possibility, which is simply that it's not happened — yet.

    Here's my question, which just might be an important one. I do know of one person who's only very recently had an extremely vivid experience which was fairly similar, and which they found extremely upsetting and concerning.

    So — has anyone else reading this had any warnings or any kind, in dreams or otherwise? Or is anyone aware of anyone else who's posted anything similar anywhere on the internet in recent weeks?


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    Default Re: Dr Bill Deagle's 2008 vision of a nuke attack on a US city

    Dear Bill if I may start off this discussion, the 'ET's' have not yet allowed a nuclear attack to happen, it does not do anything for Mother Earth, and no I have not had anything dreamwise recently, personally x

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    I can't say I have either but I would say that warnings can take many forms. Another important consideration is who's open to hear a warning and then further to pursue solutions?
    "Without the human request, nothing will happen."

    "This must never be forgotten, that the human has the power to prevail."

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    Default Re: Dr Bill Deagle's 2008 vision of a nuke attack on a US city

    It did not transpire, but there is always the case that it happened, just not on our reality, but he was connected to both at the same time, and it was so strong that he basically lived through it as if it was real time for him?

    I personally can say that i went through a similar event, and even if it sounds crazy, i want to say that it was around 2008/2009 as well... yes i know, "you imagined it", "probably watched a movie and had nightmares", "stop reading anime at night before bed" and so on, as was explained to me back then but no i don't think that was it

    My personal experience was this, i was on a building and on the elevator, it was all crystal and i could see the streets below, then suddenly i noticed a big, very big flash on the other side of the city, and then this giant white cloud growing and coming my way, i felt terrible scared and then the glass exploded and i could feel all the pain and saw myself being ripped apart, the explosion kept coming and destroying a lot of buildings and stuff, then it reached me and i just remember seeing the terrible smoke and feeling getting hit with tremendous pain and then everything went black and i woke up screaming on my bed and moving my hands trying to block all the glass and stuff that was hurting me

    I had a couple other experiences like that later on, but that's the one i remember the most, because i can remember the pain and i even remember how my left arm, which i used to cover my face, kind of turned into pieces as i was trying to put it in front of my face, just before i woke up

    I don't think we are just a few, there are way lots of people with similar experiences

    And i believe that this may not be happening here, but it's a "possibility" yet to come, realities may change over time, but some times just are meant to happen eventually?

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Dear Friends, some of you who followed Project Camelot closely in the early days may possibly remember this.

    In October 2008, Kerry and I were attending a conference in Australia, and very early in the morning we were woken by a phone call from Dr Bill Deagle, who was so upset he could hardly speak.

    Dr Bill told us he'd had an exceptionally vivid and traumatic dream — practically a vision — of a nuclear attack on an American city. Those of you who know Dr Bill will be aware that he's as tough as they come. But he was nearly in tears in his phone call to us.

    We called him back a short while later, to record what he had to say so we could share it at the conference where we were due to speak.

    Here's the audio. It goes on for a while, but Dr Bill reports most of his experience in full in the first few minutes.

    https://projectavalon.net/bill_deagle_4_oct_2008.mp3

    Of course, that nuclear attack didn't transpire. Many used it to criticize him (and us!). Others, including ourselves, felt that he had seen something that was authentic and imminent but on a different timeline, which is how come we'd never experienced the event ourselves.

    Of course, there's another theoretical possibility, which is simply that it's not happened — yet.

    Here's my question, which just might be an important one. I do know of one person who's only very recently had an extremely vivid experience which was fairly similar, and which they found extremely upsetting and concerning.

    So — has anyone else reading this had any warnings or any kind, in dreams or otherwise? Or is anyone aware of anyone else who's posted anything similar anywhere on the internet in recent weeks?


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    Default Re: Dr Bill Deagle's 2008 vision of a nuke attack on a US city

    I've had multiple, but they all came with the knowledge that it won't happen physically because I have dreamt it (!) -
    may sound strange, but I had many such during this lifetime, and it was so.

    Additionally, and this is the more important thing, I was kind of warned to indulge in
    dystopic timelines that have already been deactivated (? what ever that means),
    as this would keep them in our field of experience because of us giving them substance...
    but instead to at last stop "judging things by their covers", and, even of more importance,
    to only focus on (i.e. think and feel) what I choose to happen to me in my world,
    every minute of every day (a task in itself, for someone who was depressed for > fifty years* )

    * = and thus added my share to the collective misery, considering we are all creating around the clock, be it conscious , or not


    I am doing my best to follow up on the latter advice.

    Join me.
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    Something i forget to mention is, i have other friends told me about dreams, including one i had myself also, not the same but very similar, about "black rain"

    Which basically was a dark night with thunder and empty, broken land (like holes and big craters and land breaking like when an earthquake happens) and the sky was full or white/silver lights and then it starts raining these dark drops, like the water is full black, kind of like oil, and it starts slowly but then it gets turned into a terrible storm and it reaches you so fast you can't outrun it

    I experienced that at some point after my first dream, then i met someone who had a very similar dream. So i thought it could be an "after the first event" dream

    Would be nice to know if Dr Bill Deagle has had any kind of dream about dark or black rain?

    I know a few people that have, but it may mean something completely different, i'm not sure, i don't know much about these things

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Dear Friends, some of you who followed Project Camelot closely in the early days may possibly remember this.

    In October 2008, Kerry and I were attending a conference in Australia, and very early in the morning we were woken by a phone call from Dr Bill Deagle, who was so upset he could hardly speak.

    Dr Bill told us he'd had an exceptionally vivid and traumatic dream — practically a vision — of a nuclear attack on an American city. Those of you who know Dr Bill will be aware that he's as tough as they come. But he was nearly in tears in his phone call to us.

    We called him back a short while later, to record what he had to say so we could share it at the conference where we were due to speak.

    Here's the audio. It goes on for a while, but Dr Bill reports most of his experience in full in the first few minutes.

    https://projectavalon.net/bill_deagle_4_oct_2008.mp3

    Of course, that nuclear attack didn't transpire. Many used it to criticize him (and us!). Others, including ourselves, felt that he had seen something that was authentic and imminent but on a different timeline, which is how come we'd never experienced the event ourselves.

    Of course, there's another theoretical possibility, which is simply that it's not happened — yet.

    Here's my question, which just might be an important one. I do know of one person who's only very recently had an extremely vivid experience which was fairly similar, and which they found extremely upsetting and concerning.

    So — has anyone else reading this had any warnings or any kind, in dreams or otherwise? Or is anyone aware of anyone else who's posted anything similar anywhere on the internet in recent weeks?


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    This couple does energy healing and they are both psychic. Sorry I forget his name but the husband talks often about his concerns over China and it is not only based on current events but due to vivid dreams in his 20s of the US at war with China. So when they do their news update vids, he covers China a lot. They also believe we are headed for a pole flip and that is tied into what is going on politically.

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    Default Re: Dr Bill Deagle's 2008 vision of a nuke attack on a US city

    So many people get caught in this way ... Edgar Casey had long list of prophesy's often with dates , none of which came to pass ...

    Jorden Maxwell recently made a fool of himself ...

    Jordan Maxwell-wait till October 2020-disaster incoming ...https://www.youtube.com › watch
    Jul 12, 2563 BE — Jordan Maxwell-wait till October 2020-disaster incoming. 11,158 views11K views​. • Jul 12, 2020. 240. 16. Share. Save. 240. 16. Share. Save

    My understanding is the future cannot be predicted with certainty ... The secret government and Aliens do have time travel ,they can see into the future , but it's only ONE possible future ...

    But even if Dr Bill was seeing a likely possible event , how would being forewarned help anyone ? The city was not specified , are people expected to leave all big cities just on Dr Bill's dream ? Realistically no one would . So to publicize this dream this would just spread unnecessary fear and distract from real issues ... The dream may have been planted by malevolent forces just to do this , and to discredit the truth movement.

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    My own take on this is starting to be this

    So many people are becoming aware of reality, and so many are believing this particular one where the world is destroyed by foolish people, that the energy around all of this dark side may be increased so much by the same people who are going to be the end victims of it all.. That it may actually happen

    As a self full filled prophesy or whatever it is called

    If everyone who wants to be saved, believes we are lost, then we are lost

    Go figure intention over desire


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    So many people get caught in this way ... Edgar Casey had long list of prophesy's often with dates , none of which came to pass ...

    Jorden Maxwell recently made a fool of himself ...

    Jordan Maxwell-wait till October 2020-disaster incoming ...https://www.youtube.com › watch
    Jul 12, 2563 BE — Jordan Maxwell-wait till October 2020-disaster incoming. 11,158 views11K views​. • Jul 12, 2020. 240. 16. Share. Save. 240. 16. Share. Save

    My understanding is the future cannot be predicted with certainty ... The secret government and Aliens do have time travel ,they can see into the future , but it's only ONE possible future ...

    But even if Dr Bill was seeing a likely possible event , how would being forewarned help anyone ? The city was not specified , are people expected to leave all big cities just on Dr Bill's dream ? Realistically no one would . So to publicize this dream this would just spread unnecessary fear and distract from real issues ... The dream may have been planted by malevolent forces just to do this , and to discredit the truth movement.

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    Quote Posted by oz93666 (here)
    So many people get caught in this way ... Edgar Casey had long list of prophesy's often with dates , none of which came to pass ...

    Jorden Maxwell recently made a fool of himself ...

    Jordan Maxwell-wait till October 2020-disaster incoming ...https://www.youtube.com › watch
    Jul 12, 2563 BE — Jordan Maxwell-wait till October 2020-disaster incoming. 11,158 views11K views​. • Jul 12, 2020. 240. 16. Share. Save. 240. 16. Share. Save

    My understanding is the future cannot be predicted with certainty ... The secret government and Aliens do have time travel ,they can see into the future , but it's only ONE possible future ...

    But even if Dr Bill was seeing a likely possible event , how would being forewarned help anyone ? The city was not specified , are people expected to leave all big cities just on Dr Bill's dream ? Realistically no one would . So to publicize this dream this would just spread unnecessary fear and distract from real issues ... The dream may have been planted by malevolent forces just to do this , and to discredit the truth movement.
    Just like abductees are often shown apocalyptic visions and told specifically that humans are destroying the planet or that it's overpopulated and so on. Disinfo agents extraordinaire.
    "Without the human request, nothing will happen."

    "This must never be forgotten, that the human has the power to prevail."

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    https://www.brighteon.com/56efa647-c...8-c17199225c4a

    JR Nyquist interview: China planning to launch attack on America "in a matter of months"

    Source: https://www.brighteon.com/embed/56efa647-c0a5-44fa-9808-c17199225c4a
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    "Tomorrowland" was not just a movie, most people missed "bigly", they should watch/rewatch if needed

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    Quote Posted by oz93666 (here)
    So many people get caught in this way ... Edgar Casey had long list of prophesy's often with dates , none of which came to pass ...

    Jorden Maxwell recently made a fool of himself ...

    Jordan Maxwell-wait till October 2020-disaster incoming ...https://www.youtube.com › watch
    Jul 12, 2563 BE — Jordan Maxwell-wait till October 2020-disaster incoming. 11,158 views11K views​. • Jul 12, 2020. 240. 16. Share. Save. 240. 16. Share. Save

    My understanding is the future cannot be predicted with certainty ... The secret government and Aliens do have time travel ,they can see into the future , but it's only ONE possible future ...

    But even if Dr Bill was seeing a likely possible event , how would being forewarned help anyone ? The city was not specified , are people expected to leave all big cities just on Dr Bill's dream ? Realistically no one would . So to publicize this dream this would just spread unnecessary fear and distract from real issues ... The dream may have been planted by malevolent forces just to do this , and to discredit the truth movement.
    Just like abductees are often shown apocalyptic visions and told specifically that humans are destroying the planet or that it's overpopulated and so on. Disinfo agents extraordinaire.

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    I certainly don't wish to add to the alarm and anxiety which is already through the roof for some people: I did experience a dream in recent months that depicted a nuclear attack, it was so incredibly vivid and more like witnessing a real event: I felt the 'crack' as the device flashed, generating a magnesium ribbon intensity white light in an instant-it was in the distance, my dream unfolded like a post apocalyptic story, with groups of survivors banding together, searching for food, and shelter: I felt this was in the northern hemisphere.
    In another dream (apologies) A gigantic, psychopathic robot device plunged in to our River (The Swan River) and people who were exposed, were killed by a deadly ray, I felt the terror of needing to get into a cave, to get away from this dreadful alien machine, the malice and matter-of-fact extermination was palpable: the back story of this dream told me that we were being attacked by a supposedly alien species.
    The vividness of these dreams was unusual, they had a quality which I have never experienced before actually.
    I have been having repeated apocalyptic dreams lately, which is probably to be expected, these are turbulent, malicious times and there is an unprecedented quality to the way governments are cooperating across the world to harm and thwart their own people.

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    I have some personal experience of this. But of course it's both unprovable and unhelpful — as visionary experiences almost always are.

    Some reading this may know that in September 1948, in my last lifetime, I had a contact experience in which I was shown "the Earth burning". It seemed as if the very atmosphere was on fire. It was traumatic to see, and even now it's emotional to remember and relive.

    The experience was of course recalled in regression, all of which was recorded on audio in meticulous detail. I'm convinced it was a real occurrence, and it precipitated a very great deal more that followed. It was the first domino to fall in a long sequence of events.

    I don't know to this day if I was shown a kind of a movie, or the actual thing via some time portal device. (It was in a craft, in which the wall turned into either a very large window, or a screen.) There was no timescale given that I've ever been able to recall.

    And neither do I know what I was looking at. Was it a natural event, or some kind of act of war? And how much of the earth did it affect? I was only shown a part of it.

    But most importantly, I'm also as sure as I can be that timelines can change and events be averted, at least to some certain degree. So that makes it doubly difficult to make sense of apparent warnings, or prophecies of various kinds, when they fail to transpire. Was it all nonsense, or a big bullet dodged? It seems that in most cases, we can never know.

    Even when accurate to the extent that some correct detail is presented, predictions are of course often unhelpful, a good example being a premonition of a plane crash. But which plane, and where, and on what date? It's just not useful information for anyone at all.

    Another real example is that many have reported that they had vivid premonitions of 9/11, days, months or even years before it all happened. But what could they possibly do? Maybe just stay away from New York (which those people did). But in that case, to take any action to avert it was clearly impossible for a regular citizen.

    I took Dr Bill's experience very seriously, and I still do. His vivid description of submarines, Chinese troops, a pandemic, and containers being unloaded on the US west coast (and also coming in from Mexico) is rather too much of a close match to possible current events for comfort — at least, in my personal view.

    All one can really do, if one chooses to do anything at all, is probably what many reading this have already decided: stay away from big cities, and prepare with a whole bunch of sensible and practical provisions, tools and utilities.

    As many members have shared on other threads, whatever one's location and circumstances, to have some kind of a personal safety net of backup supplies really costs very little. And many have incorporated that in their lives already.

    One can only really take full responsibility for oneself and one's family, and to a very large degree everyone just has to make their own judgments.

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    I don't know if my dreams add to this discussion or not but one of them may .... for about 3 years or so, I regularly, about 2 or 3 times a week have vivid dreams about a city I'm living in. It's the same place in every dream, even if I'm travelling around the city. I can recall so many of these dreams in vivid detail and feeling. This place is so very similar to this earth but its subtly different. Its not a bad place, but it doesn't quite have the same depth of feeling or emotion. It's bizarre, my dreams take to the same earth/city every time.

    I always know where I am in these dreams and when I wake up I'm still amazed that I've been 'travelling' around the same place yet again. There's always a lot of transport involved, subways, stations, cars, bus, bicycle, airports etc. Travel is a continual theme and sometimes, I've been on holiday in these dreams.

    However, about a couple of years ago, in one of these dreams, on the same planet/time frame as mentioned above, my husband and I were in a hotel and there was a commotion outside. Violence, dark skies, black vehicles and military types, people running out into the street and fire and debris everywhere. We had to leave our hotel and we made our way out of a revolving door into the street and I recall looking behind me and seeing burning everywhere, smoke and people running. Angry people and vehicles etc. I recall, taking hold of my husband's hand and pulling him forward and getting him to run with me. The street reminded me of Rue St. Catherine in Montreal - don't worry Canadians, it wasn't, but it felt similar.

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    I have had this reoccurring dream every night for a week now. Last night it was so vivid the that I felt the explosions.

    I am standing on a little rise looking down over a large city, I am pretty sure it is Houston Texas because I could see the refineries. It is night. Something is hovering over the city, and suddenly lightening comes from that ship or plane and strikes the earth. But not like regular lightening, it is multi branched and the main branch is very large. The explosions begin. I can literally hear them as well as seeing them. I have the distinct feeling that I need to run and get away from whatever is happening.

    I don't normally dream like this. I usually go to bed with thoughts in my head of what I want to dream about, usually some engineering issue I am trying to solve. But this dream has invaded even my daytime thoughts!
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    in September 1948, in my last lifetime, I had a contact experience in which I was shown "the Earth burning". It seemed as if the very atmosphere was on fire. It was traumatic to see, and even now it's emotional to remember and relive.

    The experience was of course recalled in regression, all of which was recorded on audio in meticulous detail. I'm convinced it was a real occurrence, and it precipitated a very great deal more that followed.
    Interesting story Bill ... as Tyy1907 alluded to in post 10 above this is a very common thing for abductees to be shown , often the message is that the person needs to work with the ET's to prevent this disaster from happening . They always try to get people to cooperate willingly with them ...

    All that said , even without any premonitions we should all be aware cities are dangerous places to be at this time , vulnerable in so many ways ... Get remote , grow your own food.

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    Quote Posted by Mike Gorman (here)
    I certainly don't wish to add to the alarm and anxiety which is already through the roof for some people: I did experience a dream in recent months that depicted a nuclear attack, it was so incredibly vivid and more like witnessing a real event: I felt the 'crack' as the device flashed, generating a magnesium ribbon intensity white light in an instant-it was in the distance, my dream unfolded like a post apocalyptic story, with groups of survivors banding together, searching for food, and shelter: I felt this was in the northern hemisphere.
    In another dream (apologies) A gigantic, psychopathic robot device plunged in to our River (The Swan River) and people who were exposed, were killed by a deadly ray, I felt the terror of needing to get into a cave, to get away from this dreadful alien machine, the malice and matter-of-fact extermination was palpable: the back story of this dream told me that we were being attacked by a supposedly alien species.
    The vividness of these dreams was unusual, they had a quality which I have never experienced before actually.
    I have been having repeated apocalyptic dreams lately, which is probably to be expected, these are turbulent, malicious times and there is an unprecedented quality to the way governments are cooperating across the world to harm and thwart their own people.
    I have shared previously on Avalon my dream of an alien invasion and seeing crashed ships and bodies on the highway.

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    Quote Posted by Karen (Geophyz) (here)
    I have had this reoccurring dream every night for a week now. Last night it was so vivid the that I felt the explosions.

    I am standing on a little rise looking down over a large city, I am pretty sure it is Houston Texas because I could see the refineries. It is night. Something is hovering over the city, and suddenly lightening comes from that ship or plane and strikes the earth. But not like regular lightening, it is multi branched and the main branch is very large. The explosions begin. I can literally hear them as well as seeing them. I have the distinct feeling that I need to run and get away from whatever is happening.

    I don't normally dream like this. I usually go to bed with thoughts in my head of what I want to dream about, usually some engineering issue I am trying to solve. But this dream has invaded even my daytime thoughts!
    That's not an invasion that's an annihilation.
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    Not sure if this helps, but, in May I wrote on Discord about a disturbing dream that showed the aftermath of total devastation on the east coast of the US, :

    "Victoria — 05/15/2020 oh, sure! That night, I had just seen an extremely slow-moving brilliant peacock green and cherry red meteor while driving home. So I went to bed quite excited...then had a dream that I was in a very dilapidated city on the upper east coast of the US (somewhere like Virginia? or Maryland?) that was in a very sad state, like a post apocalyptic scene of total neglect and disarray..."

    On a parallel note, with dreams and premonitions of nuclear devastation (though it is not recent) when I was very little, I was terrified of and completely focused on a nuclear attack killing every one and thing. It would have been between '79-'81. As I recall, fire consumed everything. I drew pictures over and over of horses and small creatures running through flames and burning forests.

    There is much in the media over the past decades which has referenced a similar end and maybe( intentionally?) planted seeds in the global consciousness. When I saw Terminator as a teen, I was deeply affected by the scene of nuclear armageddon. It reignited my childhood fear of a nuclear cataclysm.

    There was also a made-for-tv movie, Jericho, that my fiancé tried to show me after I told him about that childhood fear. It depicted cities across America being blown away to create a new government and subsequently, China sending aid. When I couldn't watch, he bought the comic books for me to look at. ( I still haven't read them.) * sorry, I realize now Dr. Deagle mentioned it, too
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    However, it seems like this potential scenario could also be another (possibly intentional) message of devastation (like years of pushing a future pandemic) that has been promoted to the public. So,  while it's possible that what Tyy1907 and oz93666 mention could be the case, might such dreams also be the product of a subconsciously consumed message promoted repeatedly by our media?

    ~For what it's worth, my grandmother had a very specific message in 2017 from her "Horace" that mirrors the threat of a looming cataclysm. It spoke of devastation that comes from the sky, while birds are nesting in the trees. (spring/summer?) It was a warning to humanity which she was compelled to share, taking it to churches, scientific magazines and anyone who would listen. Nobody knew what to do with it. 

    I will look for it and post it here because it is very similar to Dr. Deagle's premonition and what you write about, Karen. When my grandmother received the message she was horrified and felt a need to raise the alarm, but did not know how or who to approach. Horace apparently told her she must share it widely, and..well, she did the best she could.
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    (*not the original, but recompiled by family. I have the original somewhere, this is very close.)

    "Warn the world for we are all one
    You may not see it coming;
    it will come from above
    It is man's undoing
    Imploring won't help
    It will be man's making
    Preparation is useless and preparation is of the utmost importance
    Think of what you will gather, but beware of what you combine,
    It is limited
    Blankets will keep you warm, but will not cover it up
    It will come from below, you can never put your arms around it
    All the nests will be full
    All the hiding places will be gone
    Sitting further back won't help
    Wet your finger, but the wind and shadow will come from every direction
    Save the water for the flames; water for all
    that is all
    Capture some fragments, but they will never be the same
    You won't be able to jog your memory because it will be gone
    You cannot count on the next day
    With fright and terror, we've lost our chance
    ...
    Compose ourselves, that may be the best weapon
    ...
    Beyond our range of vision, there is a giant hand reaching down to draw us all together as one
    ...
    Within nature's design, rules have been broken, in-cohesion<sic> has arisen where upheaval can smolder, pitting brother against brother. A great darkness will befall this land that we have brought upon us....We have bypassed the essentials of life which should be built upon.
    ...
    Mask that face of fear; the masses are not in tune and move to a merry step toward oblivion."

    Below is a more recent example of one of her last (channeled?) devastation messages that does not speak of something coming silently from the sky, instead from beneath the ground:
    (It is also an amalgamation, thanks to my uncle simplifying and transcribing it, so I am not sure how precise these words are to what she heard- it doesn't at all read like a typical "Horace message".)

    "What scares you the most, the rumbling beneath your feet or dead birds falling from the sky? First there will be a great rumble man has never heard before. The animals and the fish in the sea are alerted, but man moves on, nibbling away at his own foundation.  It will come like a monolith, intent on breaking the heart of our nation.   It will move Sloth-like beneath our feet while we blindly dance our last steps. Those who have passed on, are mute but must be held accountable.  The strength of the wind will dissipate and the sun will miss its queue to rise. The ocean(s) will be restless assaulting shores unfamiliar...a great wall of water inundating new lands which formally gave life to man's food supply.  All that cross this way, go this way.  Pick up the abandoned children along the way; they have liquid, sad eyes.  Dire conditions await them. Dare you pass the children by?  They call out to you, you can aid(e) them as the rains come down...so many were swept away when they reached out for help.  Cutting a path where travelers walked seeking their daily bread, their shoes all worn to a thread.
    The world is moving too fast to hear the distress signals.  There are waves of messages swirling with urgency, too fast for us to grasp, consider or preserve.  With determination it is not too late to prevent.  Warn the world for we are all one.  We must proceed with mass acknowledgement of the situation and put into motion by passing the word of the danger and seriousness in world-wide cooperation. Only the combined energy and strength of all people will be effective; that is all that will save us. Those with sincerity must approach the challenge with the will and the power from within. No one knows their full strength until a boulder rolls over the land threatening their family and home. All have a duty, recognize it. Spread the word, the populace must be aware of its urgency."


    -- Also...
    Mentioning this because the timeframe is the same, but unsure of any correlation: About four or five days ago, I began unusually and intensely noticing, thinking, hearing, waking to the image of, seeing everything that is: "green." Really strangely and persistently so, as though I was meant to receive the thought/word/intent: "green".   It is almost as though green is being pushed in my sleep, in my passive thought modes and just as I wake, as though I am seeing very specifically an emerald green circle. If green can blaze, it's blazing. Like the greenest traffic light one has ever seen.
    ~~
    AND two days ago, I returned from work and looked up at the clouds just in time to see a quickly appearing circular, bright white flash of light in the southern sky. It emerged suddenly, growing larger for a few instants as though breaching through something and then it shrank smaller until it was gone. There was a slighter, brief recurrence in the same place nearly 5 seconds later. The thought that came instantly to mind which was curious, but didn't mean much as I was feeding chickens, "scalar weapons from the sky." I haven't yet looked it up, is there currently such a thing in existence? If so, I would think that might look a little like what you saw, Karen. (?) Edit06/17: *apparently they have been around for some time:

    https://link.springer.com/content/pd...0794-6%2F1.pdf
    https://www.davidpublisher.com/Publi...39b60be8d4.pdf
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