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    https://thehill.com/events/4141299-w...onal-security/

    UPCOMING EVENT
    We Are Not Alone: UFOs & National Security
    THEHILL.COM - 08/07/23 10:14 AM ET

    There is a push from US lawmakers for more transparency in how the government handles reports of unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP) also known as unidentified flying objects.

    The Pentagon’s All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, which Congress established to investigate the incidents, has investigated roughly 800 reports of UAPs as of May. While military officials have said most cases have innocuous origins, many others remain unexplained.

    The Hill will convene lawmakers, experts, and administration officials to provide analysis and answer questions about possible national security risks.

    Thursday, August 17
    2:00 PM ET / 11:00 AM PT

    Speakers:

    Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN), House Oversight & Accountability Subcommittee on Cybersecurity, Information Technology, & Government Innovation
    Greg Eghigian, Former Director, Science, Technology, & Society Program, Pennsylvania State University; Professor of History & Bioethics, Pennsylvania State University
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    EXPLORERS' GUIDE TO SCIFI WORLD - CLIF_HIGH
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    (Clif High's no-nonsense "gritty" take on the current situation surrounding Disclosure makes a lot of sense.
    I hope he's around long enough to see all that he predicts.
    Warning: "colorful" language...)

    "PSI Future - Really, it will be a lot of fun for some humans"

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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    EXPLORERS' GUIDE TO SCIFI WORLD - CLIF_HIGH
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    (Clif High's no-nonsense "gritty" take on the current situation surrounding Disclosure makes a lot of sense.
    I hope he's around long enough to see all that he predicts.
    Warning: "colorful" language...)

    "PSI Future - Really, it will be a lot of fun for some humans"


    Beautiful and brilliant analysis yet kind of human which is lovely , thanks Cliff.


    Except for I’d seriously take him on the last couple of points and that is fixation on the penis and male circumcision as a true foundation of vitality, spirituality, Psi, Chi and so forth because this is virtually true only in human world with certain type of “normative humans”.

    Contrary to Highs opinion , most traditional yogic teachings and lineages who were qualified to shed a light on some or all the above revelations insisted and insist
    that the “art of Siddhis”( Psi and so forth) does not depend on gender and pardon me the expression , size of your genitals , on the contrary they taught that every bit of energy stored and fallen to the lowest energy centers has to be converted to more refined forms of energy and centers until the lower ones can be sealed
    as prerequisite to higher spiritual and physical attainment and a guarantee of non-return to animal like form of existence.

    Most extraordinary states of insight and super-consciousness were attained in past by young people who were naturally celibate and would be then considered “underdeveloped” and biologically immature , the same could be said about Psi abilities among eunuchs or variously disabled people and so forth.

    So no, the most powerful seat of your consciousness is not “your vagina” unless you made it so, period the end 🤩

    And secondly the one about women ( females ?) piloting “ET Spacecrafts”.
    Do you mean “terrestrial women” Cliff ?
    No really even them , er, the first outcast woman pilot in India got into cockpit just about decade ago, more or less because before then women most certainly could not fly 😆 And out of cast . No no, you can’t fly out of class also.

    In the bigger Universe these distinctions do not matter so much can’t we agree on that.

    That all before Shaberon steps in to throw lengthy exposure on Indian Tantric Art created through many enlightened periods of humanity by simple folks who believed in the same nonsense vaguely speaking as do people in this accelerated time of Kali Yuga ,
    in order to pacify the hunger for extraordinary and to feed the demons of naivety and deceit ,
    indeed the cult of creativity , fertility and anthropocentric divinity has taken over since long ago and the script of the Scripture was always adjusted accordingly,

    allowing every form of genetic experimentation, breeding and cross breeding, creating and multiplying which brings every form of high consciousness to naturally worried state , worried about mostly this world and the children created to it

    with but 10% of Psi saved for the afterlife

    🦢

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    Clif wasn't referring to the size of the penis as being significant, but the nerve endings (an important part of the very essential vagus nerve), which are removed by circumscision.
    He was only referring to women pilots in reference to advanced technology space ships (such as flying saucers), which are guided by thought, and not to the less advanced tech of jets such as are regularly flown today.
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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
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    (Clif High's no-nonsense "gritty" take on the current situation surrounding Disclosure makes a lot of sense.
    I hope he's around long enough to see all that he predicts.
    Warning: "colorful" language...)

    "PSI Future - Really, it will be a lot of fun for some humans"


    Beautiful and brilliant analysis yet kind of human which is lovely , thanks Cliff.


    Except for I’d seriously take him on the last couple of points and that is fixation on the penis and male circumcision as a true foundation of vitality, spirituality, Psi, Chi and so forth because this is virtually true only in human world with certain type of “normative humans”.

    Contrary to Highs opinion , most traditional yogic teachings and lineages who were qualified to shed a light on some or all the above revelations insisted and insist
    that the “art of Siddhis”( Psi and so forth) does not depend on gender and pardon me the expression , size of your genitals , on the contrary they taught that every bit of energy stored and fallen to the lowest energy centers has to be converted to more refined forms of energy and centers until the lower ones can be sealed
    as prerequisite to higher spiritual and physical attainment and a guarantee of non-return to animal like form of existence.

    Most extraordinary states of insight and super-consciousness were attained in past by young people who were naturally celibate and would be then considered “underdeveloped” and biologically immature , the same could be said about Psi abilities among eunuchs or variously disabled people and so forth.

    So no, the most powerful seat of your consciousness is not “your vagina” unless you made it so, period the end 🤩

    And secondly the one about women ( females ?) piloting “ET Spacecrafts”.
    Do you mean “terrestrial women” Cliff ?
    No really even them , er, the first outcast woman pilot in India got into cockpit just about decade ago, more or less because before then women most certainly could not fly 😆 And out of cast . No no, you can’t fly out of class also.

    In the bigger Universe these distinctions do not matter so much can’t we agree on that.

    That all before Shaberon steps in to throw lengthy exposure on Indian Tantric Art created through many enlightened periods of humanity by simple folks who believed in the same nonsense vaguely speaking as do people in this accelerated time of Kali Yuga ,
    in order to pacify the hunger for extraordinary and to feed the demons of naivety and deceit ,
    indeed the cult of creativity , fertility and anthropocentric divinity has taken over since long ago and the script of the Scripture was always adjusted accordingly,

    allowing every form of genetic experimentation, breeding and cross breeding, creating and multiplying which brings every form of high consciousness to naturally worried state , worried about mostly this world and the children created to it

    with but 10% of Psi saved for the afterlife

    🦢
    Each breath a gift...
    _____________

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    I understand that Onawah . I just did not want to divert the discussion too far from intended topic. By “size” I also did not mean a “size” but “size” implies possible number of neural connections as per your suggestion. Hope some people had a good laugh regardless but to put this on reality grounds ...

    ad a/ I’m not a proponent of circumcision or any other body mutilations . Hope it explains the rest.

    ad b/ As far as ancient human history goes , and far beyond the last 10 000 years of recorded history many human matters repeat, including discussions about what works the best for cultivating human spirituality, trans-human spirituality, Psi and psyche

    The theories repeat whether it concerns cut-uncut hair and beards , more drastic procedures like skull mutilations or circumcision or a hypothetical discussion about what protects and uplifts your Divinity more , could be the tribal make up followed by face masks and in the case of severe solar irradiation we all be back in hijabs just call it differently.

    ad c/ today’s humanity like yesterday’s humanity is very diverse and keeps discovering itself despite countless attempts of various dictators to install just “one faith”, “one supra culture” or “one theory” that would sort it all.

    This debate continues on many levels reaching to the highest echelons of law and justice and when it comes to “universal civil code” and “universal income” ( though entirely different issues , I just don’t need to explain every word I’m saying as any educated reader would know what talking about ) there will be sides and valid opinions on the discussion that’s all.

    ad d/ Any “racial theory” and believe in “Superman” against “lesser man” no matter what criteria you state will always divide and segregate groups of people rather than help them cultivate real virtues

    And so forth. All with a speck of humor of course but I’m surprised , more like shocked that any of the above suggestions still appeal to today’s mindsets
    but I’ve learned about all of this so much,
    through so many cultures

    that no matter how much do I love the human kind
    I don’t have faith in it either.


    Thanks for respecting my senior opinion

    ( that’s a sarcasm )

    🙏


    PS: The point about “vaginas” is completely the same, not about “size” but the suggested amount of neural connections ..

    As a female I can only understand this part and more neural or physical pressure in that sensitive area definitely results in more sensitive and partially hysterical behaviors , quite like proposed “kundalini awakenings” ( we have discussed this long ago ..I remember) and so forth.

    So there are always reasons not to oversensitise any of your body centers which includes heart, brain , throat etc etc.


    Certainly I did not mean to offend any of you or us


    PS 2: By “you or us” I also do not mean any real “you or us”, it too is rhetorical sarcasm , joke of you may and up for those who participate in mindsets of “us and them”- unfortunately counts still about 7.9 billion of lesser educated humans and the last sarcasm is on me alone ( of course).

    It’s better I won’t expand on the rest I suggest.

    🙏
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    We are used too on occasions to see FOI results from the USA. Below is recent FOI request to the EU Commission by ICER

    A FOI to the EU: A WRITTEN DECLARATION pursuant to Rule 123 of the Rules of Procedure on the declassification of documentation on UFOs. The use of UFOs was before the time when UFOs changed to UAP.

    WRITTEN DECLARATION pursuant to Rule 123 of the Rules of Procedure on the declassification of documentation on UFOs

    Mario Borghezio

    Lapse date: 14.10.2010

    0057/2010

    Written declaration on the declassification of documentation on UFOs.

    The European Parliament,

    – having regard to Articles 4, 179, 180 and 189 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the
    European Union,

    – having regard to Rule 123 of its Rules of Procedure,

    A. whereas in 1978 the 33rd General Assembly of the United Nations formally recognised UFOs as a valid issue,

    B. whereas in 1993 a resolution drafted by the Italian physicist Tullio Regge and seeking to
    extend to European level the investigative remit of what was then the only government
    body looking into UFOs (the SEPRA, which has now become the GEIPAN) was tabled in
    Parliament,

    C. whereas many members of the scientific community have been looking into the issue of
    UFOs and have denounced the systematic covering-up of information on the subject,

    D. whereas a study of the material collected by the governments of all the Member States
    would have major scientific and technological spin offs,

    1. Considers it essential to set up a scientific centre for the analysis and dissemination of the
    scientific data gathered to date by various European bodies and governments;

    2. Calls for public archives on UFOs to be opened up and for records to be declassified by
    the Member States, thus providing the public and the mass media with access to the full
    range of documentation on the subject;

    3. Instructs its President to forward this declaration, together with the names of the
    signatories, to the Council, the Commission and the governments of the Member States.

    The EU Continental representative from the International Coalition for Extraterrestrial Research (ICER) submitted questions to the EU Commission last month just after the US Congress hearings on the 26th July, 2023.

    The FOI result led to the EU Commission been bound by law under rule 138 to address the question(s)
    European reports and protocols on unidentified anomalous phenomena

    A further FOI request based on the result by law under rule 138 should be very interesting.

    Question for written answer E-002375/2023 to the Commission Rule 138

    Francisco Guerreiro (Verts/ALE) (ICER Rep.)

    Subject: European reports and protocols on unidentified anomalous phenomena On 26 July 2023, David Grusch, a former US Air Force intelligence officer, David Fravor, a former navy commander, and Ryan Graves, the executive director of Americans for Safe Aerospace, claimed in a hearing of the national security subcommittee of the US House Committee on Oversight and Accountability that the US Government was concealing vital information about unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAPs), as well as a multi-decade secret programme to recover and reverse-engineer potential non-human technologies. These claims, by high-ranking US officials, have profound
    implications for governmental accountability and transparency, as well as for national and international security.

    1. Does the Commission have any knowledge or documentation about UAPs that has been
    collected by Member States or EU agencies, such as the European Union Agency for the Space
    Programme?

    2. Does the European Defence Agency (EDA) have any reports about UAPs and does the EDA
    have internal protocols for receiving reports about UAPs from Member States in a transparent
    and accountable way?

    3. With regard to civil aviation, does the European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) have any
    reports about UAPs and does the EASA have internal protocols for receiving reports about UAPs
    from pilots and radar operators in a transparent and accountable way.

    Submitted:28.7.2023

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    Ufologist Says MORE Whistleblowers Are Ready To Come Forward

    Briahna Joy Gray and Robby Soave discuss new information on an alleged alien vehicle held by Area 51. “Impenetrable craft”. "Forty more whistleblowers." #UAP #UFO #AARO

    Aired 7th August 2023 (12:34)


    Related?


    https://twitter.com/blackvaultcom/st...29131151265792
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    Going beyond the UFO type plasma balls, orbs, I'm particularly interested in structured craft.
    Its within this arena one can carry out some analysis not only of the structure, but the dynamics taking place of these type of craft.

    There are quite a few examples from diverse times in different geographical locations that show similarities in the characteristics.

    I had studied the early mid 1970s Beamship variation craft from Meier’s contacts. The post image processing showed that they were not hoaxed according to Wendell Stephens and Elders team.

    In addition, Juanito Juan and Jose Maria Gomez Montiel and Urzi from Italy in the last 20 years have been filming similar craft consistently at close range.

    Pre digital age VHS footage is much more reliable footage and alot better than some of the official orb, tic-tac or sphere videos "released" recently. I have seen great ones again going back to the 1990s over Mexico City.

    The footage below with link provides again similarities to the others above.

    Rod Dickinson interview footage courtesy of B.E.A.M.S. http://www.beamsinvestigations.org/in... / with UFO stabilization by LunaCognita

    David Kingston interview and footage analysis featured in “Out of the Blue” (James Fox, 2003).

    However, I thought the analysis UFO Footage Recorded in 1998 was interesting.

    Based on the Daylight UFO sighting near radio communication towers filmed by Rod Dickinson, Somerset, 1998

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    Styx has an interest take on the whole recent government "disclosure" on UFOs (rebranded as UAPs). I don't agree with his opinion on everything he talks about, but I think his opinion is certainly very interesting, rational, surprisingly insightful, and fun to listen to. I mean, he even throws Enki in there. One thing I do agree with, I think it's all been a distraction. And, right now, it's mostly meant to keep our eyes off Biden.


    Pentagon to Release Watered-Down UFO Distraction Page
    CUSS WARNING
    https://rumble.com/v3dsguc-pentagon-...tion-page.html

    Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v3b72j4
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    The US FOIA READING ROOM has recent update and certainly some interesting material.

    In particular, the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program AATIP

    The 1996 amendments to the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) mandate publicly accessible "electronic reading rooms" with agency FOIA response materials and other information routinely available to the public. This page is designed to allow access to records which have been previously released under the provisions of Title 5, Section 552, Freedom of Information Act. These records will reflect deletion of portions of the information in accordance with the FOIA's nine enumerated exemption categories.

    Beginning September 1, 2022, updates were posted monthly. The monthly updates have a “New Content” notification next to the added subject.

    https://www.dia.mil/FOIA/FOIA-Electronic-Reading-Room/

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    UFO technology to be revealed in ‘controlled disclosure campaign’

    ‘UAP Disclosure Act’, was unveiled by Senator Charles Schumer over the summer.

    Discovered UFO technology will be revealed to the public through a ‘Controlled Disclosure Campaign’ plan, according to proposed legislation which is set to go before President Biden towards the end of the year.

    The sensational language is included in America’s 2024 Defence Authorisation Act, which was amended without objection to include the incredible revelation.

    This proposed legislation is to create an independent, nine-member Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Review Board, appointed by the President and confirmed by the US Senate.

    The Board's mission would be to gather and engage in "controlled disclosure" of records relating to "unidentified anomalous phenomena, technologies of unknown origin, or non-human intelligence" held by the US Government.

    The proposal also contains a provision allowing the government to exercise eminent domain, or ownership, over any "recovered technologies of unknown origin" and "biological evidence of non-human intelligence" currently under private control.

    This is in reference to a number of aerospace contractors who are believed to have stashed away non-human technologies, hidden within special access programmes.

    that “non-human technology” is referred to 26 times in the proposed 2024 Defence Authorisation Act.

    Further interesting language in the US Government’s military expense plan for next year includes the lines:

    “Unidentified anomalous phenomena are differentiated from both attributed and temporarily non-attributed objects by one or more of the following observables:

    “Instantaneous acceleration absent apparent inertia. Hypersonic velocity absent a thermal signature and sonic shockwave.

    “Transmedium (such as space-to-ground and air-to- undersea) travel. Positive lift contrary to known aerodynamic principles.

    "Multispectral signature control. Physical or invasive biological effects to close observers and the environment.

    “The term ``unidentified anomalous phenomena'' includes what were previously described as— flying discs; flying saucers.”

    The ‘Controlled Disclosure Campaign’ plan is cited to take place over a period many years, no later than 25 years after the creation of each individual record.

    https://www.sundayworld.com/news/wor...741301484.html

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    A follow through from post 411 on UFO technology to be revealed in ‘controlled disclosure campaign’

    Danny Sheehan discusses the 9 Panel UAP Review Board as set forth in the NDAA Amendment by Senator Schumer. Sheehan will be involved in nominating those on the board.

    Time limits will be given to those in possession of non human technologies, biology to surrender it to the (legitimate) government.

    I wonder how can this be enforced if most working or protecting these “legacy” programs are deceived into thinking that they are legal.
    Will corporate contractors obey the law?

    New clauses addressing this issue should be specified.

    Sheehan at 15 minute mark goes into the different legal history that has led us to this point in time.

    At 45 mins he goes into the retrieved technologies and the time limits for providing these technologies to the public.
    He is convinced from all his contacts not just in the US but internationally that the UAP currently and historically is extraterrestrial.

    He goes into the recent politics and future scenarios. Specifically, having Biden signing the legislation for these hearings to be used for the next months and with a max of 7 years to complete. This is the slow controlled disclosure. Sheehan sees Biden having a second term in office due to this signing off of this legislation. Bidens signed off legislation permits this slow disclosure to happen. In case of other Presidential candidates coming into the mix, Sheehan doesn't see any of them voted into Presidential office because of the current executive actions by the Democrats.

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    If the UFO technology to be revealed in ‘controlled disclosure campaign’ comes about, there are ramifications for the world.
    Because we have different audiences for this to be exposed too, responsibility has to be measured.
    From an audience that is completely unaware (ignorant) of the UAP reality to those at the very far end of the spectrum of UAP reality goading the disclosure.

    Regarding the Schumer- Rounds provisions added to the NDAA FY 2024 (still to be revised by the House before Biden's signature possibly around December 22nd), the surrendering of non-human technological items, artifacts, and biologics under an eminent domain regime should be more complete than surrendering records. It must also be about the Legacy Programs coming under the effective control of the legally appointed government.

    But the upcoming 9-member disclosure review Board mentioned by D. Sheehan must also understand the issues and implications in as much an integral way as possible.

    Where will the confiscated items be placed? Will they remain in place inside the unacknowledged corporation sites and black military sites but under another supervision?

    There will likely be resistance from DoD, MIC, and Intel sections associated with the control group's "conservatives" seeking to maintain the current unconstitutional arrangement. As Dr. Greer said, it is a catch-22 situation, with the corporations claiming private and intellectual rights and the government agencies claiming national security to keep things as they are.

    For the People to regain some measure of control over their destiny, Disclosure has to be legally managed and publicly recognized but there is the possibility of it being “catastrophic”

    1) If society is not culturally prepared OR

    2) If it destroys faith in the US Gov and the higher ideals it stands for (some of whose members were complicit in allowing the control group to deceive, misappropriate funds, destroy individuals, perhaps even sell drugs and traffic people, sell out citizens making deals with service to self entities in exchange of some technology, and give an unfair advantage to some corporations, etc).

    Can society simply be told not only that we were genetically modified as an experiment that may possibly serve various (human-like and non-human) races but that there also is a battle for our souls due to the creative capacity connected to our wills? (read contactee Dana Redfield’s testimony). We cannot be simply told everything by our ET-NH "parents" because that will impede the flourishing of our free will...

    Will an arms race against the US intensify and be more openly justified after Disclosure with China and Russia coming together along with more countries moving into the orbit of the latter? Will non-human craft be openly targeted (more than they are now) or will new policies allow them to move about as they please?

    What if it is finally recognized that there are at least 10x - 100x more non-human craft constantly moving about at high speeds all over the world and that what we sometimes see is but a small fraction when they slow down? Courtney Brown' new high-speed and infrared recording method is showing an enormous UFO activity in the skies. Realizing this may make nation-states weary and people feel insignificant. hopefully not a reason for a false flag E invasion approach...

    Will the 9 members of the Panel Review Board for managed public disclosure be able to understand the issues and deep implications of allowing or not allowing specific information into the public domain and -besides this board - who will recommend future policies? Who will eventually represent humanity?

    How can the UN and other international venues be constructively included in a productive conversation? Many people in the world will feel left out or under what the US says and there simply is plenty of animosities, jealousy, Marxist, post-modern, non-aligned, anti-colonialist, and extreme nationalist, right-wing anti-American sentiment, ideologies, and activities all over the world. Therefore, Western liberal principles (under which the UN was formed) are in danger.

    How will revealing that the U.S. acted as just another dictatorial regime in terms of suppressing the truth about UFOs (including with elected politicians that turned a blind eye) be taken? How will the possibility of the U.S. making secret alliances with unknown (perhaps not the most human-respectful) ET-NH groups be taken? (increasing or allowing abductions to get technology).

    Daniel Sheehan’s key comments about new unfoldments and key timelines in terms of the NDAA and upcoming elections and the roles of the two main parties in the U.S. have not been widely commented upon but can be heard after minute 45, after minute 53, and after the 1 hour and 10 minutes mark. His New Paradigm Institute is opening an office in Washington DC to be part of the selection of the Review Board.

    Link to Dan Sheehan's declarations in the Humanity Rising Podcast:
    https://www.youtube.com/live/1c4S1k5...VQHz9C7-oLbx3o

    On another note, the activity by Dr. Greer as per Direct-Witness Whistleblowers and documents informing the Senate Intelligence Committee with actionable intelligence continues and complements what Dan Sheehan and the Mellon-Elizondo have contributed (even if Greer unfairly criticizes Mellon-Elizondo and says that all ET are benevolent and all or most abductions are secret government produced to instill fear).

    There is necessary key information in yesterday's London Real TV interview:

    https://londonreal.tv/dr-steven-gree...trial-contact/

    N.B. There is also the issue of beginning to create UAP laws in terms of national security in the Mexican parliament. It's understandable (just like in the U.S.) but should National Security be the only "credible" reason for doing this? What about a simple (nor highly educated) Mexican citizen's possibility of establishing open diplomatic contact with a non-human-NH race or association and being allowed to obtain evidence? Perhaps Mr. Juanito Juan is that person but that is being summarily ignored in the UFO community.

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    Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon are now within the UAP US Border/Customs Document Type FOIA Record
    These Documents had there first Posting Date Wednesday, 08/09/2023
    These are Records pertaining to Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon.
    These provide a list of videos

    FOIA Category List Significant Records of Interest

    Tags under Freedom of Information Act (FOIA)

    IMO this is the same policy directive controlling the release and narrative


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    “No.”, so what now?

    Do the WORDS of NASA match their ACTIONS?

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    Dozens Of Government UFO Whistleblowers Have Given Testimony To Congress, Pentagon, And Inspectors General.

    Despite the growing number of UFO/UAP whistleblowers, leaders in the military and intelligence community are fighting greater disclosure

    At the same time, the history of past government disinformation campaigns in general, and as they specifically relate to UAPs, involves the mixing of accurate information and inaccurate information, making it difficult or impossible to feel confident in understanding the meaning of fundamental elements of the phenomenon.

    That reality and the need to prevent government officials from deliberately misleading journalists, policymakers, and the public make greater transparency and disclosure essential, both UFO skeptics and believers agree.


    Testimony has included both first-hand and second-hand reports of crash retrieval and reverse-engineering programs by US, Russian, and Chinese governments; the testing of materials obtained from retrieved craft; active and ongoing government disinformation operations; kinetic military action with UAPs; contact and collaboration with nonhuman intelligence (NHIs); and the successful reverse-engineering of a triangle-shaped craft with unconventional propulsion.


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    The Basement Hangout - UFO Researcher & Author Richard Dolan
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    Just following with more from Post 416.

    It's very important. 30 valiant whistleblowers IS EVIDENCE. Also, thanks to News Nation covering the news more than others.

    I think that something like this was said before by AARO's (Captain Kirk..patrick. But it looks like since he didn't do much with this, the whistleblowers went somewhere else. I hope that the IGIC does due diligence!!! If authorities don't do their job and try to avoid it because they detest UFO issues, what can be done? That avoidance of responsibility from elected officials allowed the secretive, cabal controllers of the information and research to do as they pleased. Obviously the avoidance from elected officials would play in how they would justify it in their own minds.

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    David Grusch (USA) will be speaking at the UFO World Symposium in San Marino (Europe) 4 and 5 November, 2023.

    I understand he will be providing some intriguing information that may be easier to divulge in Europe than the USA.

    This may be similar to Lou Elizonda, also at a previous San Marino Symposium when he provided NHI captured craft details.

    There will be a number of ICER National reps also speaking.

    Among other speakers from abroad there will be Yan Jin from China and Steve Bassett from the USA.

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    I have been keeping a close eye on the concept of an upcoming "disclosure" by credible non-government person(s). However, with the recent Congressional hearings in July, has provided encouraging signs with more whistleblowers coming forward or still to come forward to brief either government closed hearing and more open hearings within other open projects, like Bigalow’s and other private initiatives.

    So today I was intrigued what Lou Elizondo had to announce. See link. He was obviously had been working with Chris Mellon and Jay Straton before this announcement.

    However, my other hat tells me to remember and not to forget that LE is an intelligence agent. Specialist in Counter Intelligence or how to LIE without been caught. Unfortunately, Lou has been caught out over the 5 years for those who have been studying this subject. He had to go to ground and open the doors for Gary Nolan and John Ramirez.

    Just like Stratton and Mellon. Could this be a distraction, steering the narrative towards a time frame that may be true, but its any bodies guess.

    https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...783f2e2741f88&

    Stratton and Elizondo are joined at the hip, a joint statement attributed to Lue Elizondo and Jay Stratton was also issued, in which they praised the participation of the witnesses during the recent Congressional hearings. see link.

    BTW, Jay Stratton was the first director of the UAP Task Force and a career intelligence officer who pushed for the use of the term UAP. He was also a former director of AAWSAP, AATIP, AARO and UAPTF.

    https://thedebrief.org/director-of-p...t-uap-hearing/

    Although LE announcement looks serious to consider, and the way news is unfolding, it would indicate a ‘disclosure’ date, but when you consider the amount of whistle blowers coming forward in unexpected numbers it would suggest enough for a ‘disclosure’ to happen. However, It doesn’t have to be announced by the US government via the President, but may happen through a more neutral world head figure that would be aligned to this revelation.

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