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    Default Game-changing Chinese defector Dong Jingwei

    Mod note from Bill:

    I copied this important post here to start this new thread. I suspect there may be much more coming.

    ~~~

    Quote This has moved from the "blogosphere" to the Mainstream Media.

    Cabal Sphincter-Pucker-Factor on a scale of 1 - 10: ➡ 11
    https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-N...5391624284922/


    Quote Top Chinese counterintelligence official missing amid rumors of U.S. defection

    June 21 (UPI) -- A senior Chinese state security official may be missing, as rumors swirl in Chinese-language social media about his whereabouts.

    Reports indicate the man already may have defected to the United States with sensitive information about the origins of COVID-19.


    Vice Minister of State Security Dong Jingwei, 57, is believed to have fled China with classified information about the novel coronavirus, Daily Telegraph in Sydney reported Monday.

    Dong may have secretly traveled from Hong Kong to the United States on Feb. 10, escaping with his daughter, Dong Yang, according to SpyTalk, a newsletter covering U.S. intelligence.

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    Rumors of Dong's defection first circulated on Chinese-language social media platforms, Taiwan's Liberty Times reported Saturday.

    Overseas Chinese pro-democracy activists claimed there is evidence father and daughter took off from Hong Kong with "relevant information from the Wuhan Institute of Virology," according to the report.

    China has not issued an official response to Dong's rumored defection, but on Friday Xi ordered top officials of the Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party to swear an oath ahead of the 100th anniversary of the founding of the CCP on July 1, according to Liberty Times on Sunday.

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    As Dong's whereabouts remained unconfirmed, on Friday Hong Kong-based South China Morning Post reported China's law enforcement agency claimed Dong was in China, attending an intelligence seminar.

    China's Central Political and Legal Affairs Commission said Dong ordered the country's spies to hunt down "anti-China" forces. The commission did not disclose the location of the seminar. No photo of Dong accompanied the article.

    Reports of Dong's alleged defection come as members of the international community appeared to agree on trying to confirm COVID-19's origins.

    Not a reliable source (bdanon), possibly intelligence purposeful disinfo, but interesting to contemplate:

    Quote It comes like a thief in the night it will leave as the Storm. Do you think the Chinese was just a defector? A lot, lot more. Not only does he know about the Chinese virus, he knows all the details behind the Chinese efforts in the 2020 election, their deep state assets, the Democrats and Republicans on the take, where the fake Chinese ballots were made, where they were shipped and how they were distributed in swing states.
    added

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...n-label-rumor/


    Quote More Outlets Finally Report on Chinese Defector Who Claims China Released COVID on the World — While Others Downplay His Defection as a ‘Rumor’

    The liberal media is finally reporting on the Chinese defector who brought with him information on how China was behind the release of the China coronavirus.
    Although we had heard rumblings about this earlier, The Gateway Pundit first reported on June 4th that there was a Chinese defector who knew much about China’s involvement in the making and release of the coronavirus (COVID-19).

    This individual was shielded by lower levels at the FBI to prevent the top layers from burying the entire story:


    REPORT: Chinese Defector Confirms COVID-19 Was Manmade in a Laboratory – This Is Why the Obama-Biden Gang Has Changed Its Narrative Surrounding the Origins of COVID-19
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    Default Re: Game-changing Chinese defector Dong Jingwei

    Here are some footnotes to follow up on this. (For now!)

    1) Here he is:



    2) Dong Jingwei on Wikipedia

    3) An excellent article from the South China Morning Post:
    https://scmp.com/news/china/politics...gents-look-out
    • Top Chinese spy catcher Dong Jingwei warns agents to look out for those who collude with foreign forces
      — The security chief tells agents they must hunt down ‘insiders’ who collude with anti-China forces and ‘those who bankroll them’
      — Dong warns that infiltration and spying activity have been on the increase
    4) And a video. There's sure to be much more in the next few days.


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    Default Re: Game-changing Chinese defector Dong Jingwei

    Thanks Bill!

    After adding the following to my source post copied above, I went looking for where this info really should go and found your thread.

    https://social.quodverum.com/@DuaneC...48765685037906

    Quote
    Thread: THE D.I.A. **DONG-ED** THE CCP!!
    https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2021...ficial-n398374
    This story from RED STATE broke on June 17th & promptly BROKE the internet.
    I have never read a singular story with more THERMONUCLEAR BOMBS dropping in it than this one.
    If (& it's a BIG IF!) even ONE of these Nukes turns out to be vetted & verified it is a Game-Changer for US/China relations.
    Really what's just inferred by the existence & actions of this Defector are also incredible.

    Duane Cates #SoulWAR @DuaneCates@social.quodverum.com

    The Defector's name is Dong Jingwei (董经纬) who isn't just "a" Top Internal Security Official for the Guoanbu, the CCP's Ministry of State Security (MSS) apparently he was THE Chief of that Agency & therefore China's #1 "Spy-Catcher."
    This is the highest ranking Official ever to defect from the CCP & it's claimed he brought "terabytes" of Data with him that are devastating to the CCP & it's ongoing US & Worldwide Operations I've called a GLOBAL CRIME SPREE.


    Dong, under false pretense, traveled to the US in mid February to visit his daughter who was attending a US University.
    Upon arrival, he instead arranged for her safety then contacted **D.I.A. Officials** & told them of his plans to defect & that he had brought "highly sensitive" information with him.
    After moving & acting "normally" as if he was, indeed, paying his daughter a visit both disappeared into D.I.A. custody in early March.
    The D.I.A. has been QUIETLY debriefing Dong ever since.

    How quietly?

    When Biden's Secretary of State & his useless Minions were being humiliated at their Alaska Summit in Mid March where the Chinese Officials, once they were done SNEERING at Blinken & Company, demanded Dong be returned to them.
    What happened next was quite telling.
    The MSM, if they covered this at all stated Blinken simply refused.
    What ACTUALLY happened is **Blinken had NO IDEA Dong had defected** & didn't even appear to know who Dong was or that he was in US Custody.

    Ponder that for a moment.
    The US SECRETARY OF STATE had not a clue WHO Dong was or that he's been in US Custody for at least 2 weeks.

    That ANY high ranking CCP Official had defected wasn't confirmed until early JUNE with a C.I.A. "Friendly" Website called SPY TALK dropping his name on June 17th.
    Up until that point, after the CCP demand of Dong's return, it was only a rumor that swirled throughout DC & the Intelligence Community.
    THROUGH APRIL.
    THROUGH MAY.
    As the D.I.A. vetted Dong's Intel.

    It's because Dong wasn't really in "US Custody."
    He was in the custody of the DEFENSE INTELLIGENCE AGANCY which, unlike the civilian C.I.A. is a part of the US **MILITARY**
    Here's what I'm suspecting= Dong was a D.I.A. ASSET & may have been one for years.
    He called his military counterparts upon arrival & negotiated his defection on HIS terms & they accepted.
    As it took 2 weeks to arrange it I'm thinking it wasn't planned at all on our side.
    Dong drove the entire event.

    The Red State Article covers was Dong supposedly brought with him.
    Before I start in on that let me prime all of this by saying that "if" the USA has been compromised to the gills by a decades long **undeclared** INFORMATION & INFLUENCE War with literally 100's of out top Industrialists, Politicians & even Sports Figures compromised or sold out to the CCP Dong's intel would be a GODSEND.
    Literally TOO GOOD to be TRUE.
    So I'm quite wary at this point.

    Here's what Dong plopped into the D.I.A.'s Lap=
    *Early pathogenic studies of the virus we now know as SARS-CoV-2
    *Models of predicted COVID-19 spread and damage to the US and the world
    *Financial records detailing which exact organizations and governments funded the research on SARS-CoV-2 and other biological warfare research
    **IF TRUE** those three data points aren't just a Smoking Gun, that's a Smoking CANNON.
    Aimed right at us.
    Biological Warfare.

    This means my initial thoughts on COVID-19 were spot on.
    The CCP released it to offset the Trump Economy that was FORCING them to the Bargaining Table to end what I call their GLOBAL CRIME SPREE.
    If they were studying Models of the effects of SARS-2 on the US that's not just an act of War, it's an ACT OF GENOCIDE.
    We destroyed the Nazi's Third Reich & replaced their government with Germans we could work with & the Nazi threat to US Interests never even approached what the CCP's done to us.

    *Names of US citizens who provide intel to China
    *Names of Chinese spies working in the US or attending US universities
    *Financial records showing US businessmen and public officials who’ve received money from the Chinese government
    *Details of meetings US government officials had (perhaps unwittingly) with Chinese spies and members of Russia’s SVR
    Dong's Data, again, if this is TRUE, is a DIAMOND MINE.
    Perhaps the biggest Intelligence Coup in World History.
    It NAMES NAMES.
    Spies.
    TRAITORS.

    "according to sources, Dong told DIA debriefers that at least a third of Chinese students attending US universities are PLA assets or part of the Thousand Talents Plan and that many of the students are here under pseudonyms. One reason for using pseudonyms is that many of these students are the children of high-ranking military and party leaders."
    There are currently THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY **THOUSAND** Chinese Nationals in the US.
    Mostly Students.
    Dong says 110,000 are PLA Assets.

    <more with images at link >


    https://twitter.com/adamhousley/stat...793193987?s=20





    https://twitter.com/adamhousley/stat...338312204?s=20





    https://twitter.com/adamhousley/stat...882170883?s=20


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    Default Re: Game-changing Chinese defector Dong Jingwei

    If that guy is legit, thats some ballz galore. God we need one of these to bust multiple charades wide open.

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    If this is true which it appears to be this is more than huge, this is historic and many here in the states will be scrambling to get out of the U.S. .

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    Quote So after reading this thread and it's proposition that the defector mightve been a DIA asset all along, makes since in the speech Pompeo gave when he told all those politicians he had already seen the list of all of them that were on the CCP payroll.
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    Found this on utube blog comments sections posted today , just an fyi, cannot verify but anything is possible or misdirected or , or , or?
    I live in China and just checked on Baidu (Chinese Google), and it's reporting that he hosted a security conference in China a day or two ago. Also, there's plenty of information about him such as images, party station, age, accomplishments etc. I'd take the story with a grain of salt until you see real evidence, until then I guess it's a cool story.

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    i now this is a very obscure blog, and i take it with 3 grains of salt... anyway...:

    https://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index3603.htm

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    • Who is Dong Jingwei: Why US, China won’t prove they have spymaster
    Spymaster Dong Jingwei could be the highest level defector in Chinese history. So why hasn’t China done this one thing to prove he isn’t in the US?
    No need to follow anyone, only consider broadening (y)our horizon of possibilities ...

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    Quote Posted by Vicus (here)
    i now this is a very obscure blog, and i take it with 3 grains of salt... anyway...:

    https://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index3603.htm
    That's the disinfo website of "Sorcha Faal" (CIA agent David Booth), and everything it proclaims can be 100% totally disregarded.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Vicus (here)
    i now this is a very obscure blog, and i take it with 3 grains of salt... anyway...:

    https://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index3603.htm
    That's the disinfo website of "Sorcha Faal" (CIA agent David Booth), and everything it proclaims can be 100% totally disregarded.
    David Booth is on record for a precognition of a plane crash in 1979, having sensed the airline and plane type.
    One of the worst air disasters in American history occurred in May 1979 at Chicago’s O’Hare Airport, when an American Airlines DC-10 jet experienced engine problems just as it was lifting off the ground.
    The plane flipped over and exploded on the runway, killing all 271 of its passengers. As reported in an Associated Press story, David Booth (tonight’s guest) had phoned-in a disturbing dream to the FAA three days before the crash. He had correctly named both the airline and the plane, and the type of crash.


    This is his claim to fame.

    Based on this he has been on the 2004 talk show circuit talking about dreams of cataclysms he has recently had.

    From Booth’s web site:
    You are now living in the most perilous time in modern mans history. At the same time that you ignore information such as this your own governments are preparing and warning YOU to do the same.

    If you do not start paying attention, seeking information and then acting upon it YOU are putting yourself and your family in peril. REMEMBER! We are not telling you this, YOUR own governments are!

    For over 40 years researchers such as myself and Wayne Green have documented these times and what you can do to prepare yourself.


    For over 40 years the United States and other world governments have spent trillions of dollars in preparing for the years 2004-2008. Why?

    Wherever you are in the world now as you’re reading this you can’t afford not to know the answer to that question. We here at WhatDoesItMean.Com coupled with our researchers spread all around the world are here to help you. You are NOT going to like what we have to tell you. You are NOT going to like what your governments are advising you to do. You are NOT going to like hearing the truth, but then again, you can’t afford NOT to know!

    The next step is yours!

    And from someone who listened to a broadcast:
    Planet X is a misnomer... It has a name, Wormwood, Marduk... This planetary body will be accompanied by an entourage of other bodies...

    The time that we’re living in, beginning on June 8th, 2004, when Venus transits the sun will be a marker... TPTB won’t be able to cover up these events any more... I have never lied to you... Be scared, be afraid, be petrified; your own government is telling you this...

    The Pope visited with JFK’s wife for over 2 hours; she reported back to Kennedy the disturbing news of the 3rd Fatima secret; the week after that, JFK began the secret government and issued executive orders to put America on a war footing to prepare for a major disaster...

    We are in the final months of one of the greatest global transfers of military, industrial and intellectual might the world has ever seen... This cataclysmic tribulation is so awesome and frightening, that they have moved the power of the US off shore to allow the US as a concept to exist, without actually having a physical landmass...

    The world’s militaries are moving dramatically... Soviet military is warning of cataclysms... It’s apparent that in the next 6 to 8 weeks, 2 comets will become visible, and their tails will form a cross... Regarding timeline, can’t name exact date, but 2004 begins the time... An eight year cycle to 2012.
    But Booth crashed and burned after announcing on C2C that he had indeed visited Sister Lucia, when no such visit is on record per the convent!
    Noory said [Mar 20] the Producers called the Carmelites and they said that no one had been there in recent times to visit.

    He also said that Green and Booth would not be asked back to C2C, ever again. He expressed the opinion that they were hoaxing, and that they were out to make a buck, and that they came on the show with the intention to sell, rather than to inform.

    He also stated that they came on under false pretenses. Mr. Noory said that his staff called the convent in question. They (the convent) told his staff that sister Lucia is of rather delicate health and takes few visitors. In fact they do not believe she has had any visitors in the last few months.
    And Booth has been accused of plagiarism:
    As a webmaster of 4 years for the author Amitakh Stanford (D.M) of "Nibiru and the Anunnaki", I was one of the first to receive this article of which I posted shortly thereafter on September 11th 2002 to be precise.

    Now to see it reproduced almost in it’s entirety in David L. Booth’s "Code Red: The coming Destruction of America" I am shocked at the level of audacity of this fraudulent liar who is posting under this forum under the pseudonym of "Anonymous Coward" which couldn’t be a more appropriate if euphemistic label for one such as Booth.

    Also I have read Sitchin’s Twelfth Planet and can say beyond a doubt that there are absolutely no parallels between what Amitakh Stanford has written and the writings of others in fact her discussions of the theories of others such as Sitchin are merely that, and her views are in the main opposing to what others have written on this subject. Admit it Booth you are a Fraud and a coward, who cannot face the Truth now that you are exposed.

    You have made millions from your deceit and exploitation of those who are sincerely seeking Truth, and you KNOW it!

    Justinn D McFadyen,
    Melbourne,
    Australia

    And on his (yet another) final interview on Rense.COM on April 12, this claims got more extraordinary. Is he an establishment shill?

    He admonishes all to read the Bible, and go to Homeland Security site for survival info.
    • David has a relative in the same Portuguese Carmelite convent as Sr. Lucia. He has gone there to visit for over 20 years.
    • Claims to have lived in St. Petersburg, USSR, for 1 1/2 years studying Sitchin type topics.
    • Wayne Green said David is a cousin to Fr. Malachi Martin.
    • David claims to be a cousin of Pope John Paul the first who was murdered.
    • He chauffeured Clinton during a political visit to NH.
    • The Antarctic: team of 6 Americans have built a major hi-way that can carry major equipment. There are about 1200 astronomers there to set up the observatory with the scopes.
    • Good site: www.ready.gov - to prepare for what is coming.
    • Invited by Mayan’s for Venus Transit on June 8th.
    • ET’s have medaled in all gov’t except the US. They have never been able to penetrate the gov’t of the US. They are all evil and there is no benefit to mankind.
    Wherein Jeff Rense researched Booth plagiarism and found his entire book Code Red to be plagiarized!
    So the scoundrels are being exposed. First Rayelan, now David Booth. Jeff Rense commissioned 2 respected research journalists to cross check and analyze key sentences and word combinations in Booths book Code Red. The results show that the bulk of the book had been plagiarized from many sources. All Booth did was grammatically connect others data. A big cut and paste job. I read his online book last week and something didn’t ring true. There were obvious inconsistencies in the writing style. My suspicions have been backed up. The full article. Evidence.
    An interview by Yowusa put this comment from Nancy, given to Yowusa via email at their request, to Wayne Green. After having stated early in the interview that Booth scrambled his message at the request of the State Department, Green denied that Booth, or he, could be CIA.

    Humm, but apparently cooperating with government agents...
    Green: I think that there’s some kind of an agreement on some level that he is not supposed to do talk radio other than that one last Rense show when he came on and said all kinds of confusing things to totally disturb the waters, I think so that he created a big distraction, he took people’s mind of his vision, and off what’s actually happening, the data that we’re getting in on what’s happening to the Earth. And they, ah, I think the purpose is to distract people from that and get them all wrapped up in this other nonsense.

    Yowusa: .. and he’s made agreements with parties unknown about what he can and cannot do. Who are these parties unknown?

    Green: I think part of the deal is, he’s not allowed to say ... we did hear him say something about two people from the State Department contacting him in Paris. This is where everything suddenly went crazy. ... The Patriot Act makes it so that they can put you in prison, and your family in prison, without a hearing, with no phone call, because of terrorism, if you frighten people.

    Yowusa: I do have a bit of email, I want to get your opinion on this ..

    About Booth, who is CIA and a fraud. His single claim to fame the airline crash, and if that plane were to be taken DOWN by the CIA, a planned assassination so the mechanical means was known, then this was a careful setup to posture him as a future psychic.

    ...@yowusa.com wrote:
    > One of our readers forwarded this link to us regarding an article on your site.
    > http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta82.htm
    >
    > This is the result of an expose interview on the affair by Wayne Green on our Cut
    > to the Chase program.
    > http://yowusa.com/Audio/cttcshow/cttcshow.html
    >
    > If you wish, please respond to ...@aol.com and copy me as well.
    >
    > Regards,
    > ..., Publisher
    > YOWUSA.COM

    And a summary done in 2005, after the Booth incident had died down.
    As many readers know, David Booth, a retired computer programmer hailing from New Hampshire USA, aroused much interest back in February on the Internet talk show circuit with the promotion of his book Code Red: The Coming Destruction of the United States 2004.

    The book was inspired from a consecutive ten day dream he claimed to experience last year, in which he saw a large sized planetary body pass close to Earth causing an explosion towards the end. This undoubtedly bears the hallmarks of the Planet X passage, although David was reluctant to designate it as such.

    His credibility and apparent integrity rested on his past track record of being the only worlds psychic to have an officially documented premonition before the event - one of Americas worst aviation disasters in 1979.

    David’s web site publicized the book on a limited edition basis, which skeptics regarded as a sales pitch. Earlier in the year he was a guest on a number of prolific talk show interviews, including one with Jeff Rense who explicitly avoids discussing doomsday predictions.


    Complaints eventually sprung up that large tracts of the book were copied word for word from various published sources. These sources were mainly oriented to prophecy or a new age slant.

    David appeared again on the Jeff Rense show on 12th April to defend his position, outlining he had written the book in a month and had powerful contacts [in the US government] who were aware of an impending disaster in 2004.

    David declared the interview as his final appearance, and that he would more or less be stepping away into the shadows. Jeff Rense subsequently posted a number of articles on his website implying David was an intentional plagiarist, after receiving further emails proving David’s book was almost entirely plagiarized except for several connecting paragraphs.

    One of the major selling points of the book was based on his prophetic dream combined with privileged knowledge of government awareness. Thus the plagiarism cannot be easily defended as research when David was promoting it as his own confidentially acquired material. As of today David Booth has removed all material from his whatdoesitmean web site.

    The question remains as to why Mr Booth decided to cobble a book quickly together without considering that astute readers might discover the original material on the internet and in books. The typical claim of financial gain may not be the motive as cynics usually suspect.


    Mr Booth professes to be a self made millionaire, and in any case there is not a great deal of money that can be garnered from selling calamity books, as they are not in the same league as, say, a Stephen King novel.
    So what was his motive, if not to gain short term fame and attention? We may never know. Some have speculated David is a government agent or New World Order fundamentalist! Perhaps he was briefed to divulge information about the coming cataclysms in a way that would cast doubt about his authenticity but still raise awareness of it in the public domain.

    Speculation, admittedly, and I see nothing wrong in speculating.
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    This story is growing remarkably quiet. Here's Owen Shroyer from Infowars telling it like [I personally believe] it is.

    https://banned.video/watch?id=60d11045d590111dee4e1991


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    Nauseating, the scale of this assault on our world beggars belief: no conspiracy theory comes near the true reality.

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    Could be more rumors, in either case. Neither US or China confirm this would be the case and more pertinently, I doubt he would get through easily in February while the US stopped granting visas to Chinese officials and high ranking business operatives due to security concerns.

    China Spymaster Dong Jingwei Makes First Public Appearance Since Defection Rumors

    Exclusive: U.S. and China Officials Both Deny Spymaster Dong Jingwei Has Defected

    Sometimes I think, I’d prefer to be wrong ( and happy ). Obviously people can be wrong and happy at the same time
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    Here's J.R Nyquist discussing Dong Jingwei in a new 35 minute interview, published on 23 June.

    The video title is The Fake China Defector Story. (A rare thing, I disagree with his analysis on this occasion.)

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    Here's a fascinating, detailed and deep analysis of the Dong Jingwei situation from Walter Bosley, published on 24 June. For whose unfamiliar with Walter, he worked in counter-intelligence for AFOSI (the Air Force Office of Special Investigations), and had first-hand experience of handling and evaluating defectors, both real ones and those who turned out to be double agents, a possibility that he acknowledges is always there and always has to be considered.

    Walter's account of the entire process, and the possibilities behind the scenes, was something I very much appreciated and learned quite a lot from. VERY interesting to me was Walter's emphasis that unlike American traitors (who he states are almost always bought with money) a Chinese defector of Dong's senior rank would be far more likely to defect because of something he learned that he was no longer able to live with, such as an imminent deployment or actioning of something that was disturbing to his principles.

    (For the record, and for what it may be worth, all my Spidey Senses tell me personally that Dong is genuine and that the latter is the case, that the Chinese are planning something that Dong finds unacceptable. Walter also states he's leaning in that direction.)

    The section in the video about Dong lasts over half an hour from the start of the video to about 42 mins in, after which he takes questions from the live chat. Then the topic continues with further interesting enlargement from Walter. (In retrospect, Walter's open speculations about any connection with the timing of the UAP Task Force report do seem to have been ill-founded.)

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