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    Default The Biden Admin is spying on us... is that ok?

    It's probably no surprise to you about being spied on but Tucker Carlson shared last night a nightmare story about being spied on. He said a whistleblower alerted him to the spying on all his communications in an effort to leak that info to take down TUCKERs show.


    Its Dans opening discussion in the video...


    Bongino also explains why it is important to stay on the subject of the gov spying on its citizens. How FISA was abused many times and the slow drip of info leads people to forget the stories importance.
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    Default Re: The Biden Admin is spying on us... is that ok?

    I remember a president way back when that was impeached for that very reason but on a much smaller scale and had to leave office...
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    Default Re: The Biden Admin is spying on us... is that ok?

    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    I remember a president way back when that was impeached for that very reason but on a much smaller scale and had to leave office...
    I think that had something to do with water and a gate.

    Forgive me, but he was not impeached. He was convinced to resign to avoid probable impeachment. And, to allow the powers-that-be the opportunity to fix and control the outcomes.

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    Default Re: The Biden Admin is spying on us... is that ok?

    Tonight's Tucker Carlson show goes a little deeper into the spying. Please start at 19:20 in the video below.... Fox videos dont stay up long on youtube though so watching sooner is recommended.


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    Default Re: The Biden Admin is spying on us... is that ok?

    yes its ok. Its been ok with previous presidents. Why should it be any different with Biden?

    I just realized that there is another important agenda that goes with covid. They are training people to be compliant with the ultra absurd.

    Questions here also seems to be becoming more absurd.

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    Default Re: The Biden Admin is spying on us... is that ok?

    Opening story on the spying case by Bongino... hear NSA's weak statement about it...

    "The biggest fear is big gov..."

    https://rumble.com/vj9863-ep.-1553-t...gino-show.html

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    Default Re: The Biden Admin is spying on us... is that ok?

    More from Tucker... "They spied on us..." start at 23 min in...


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    Quote Posted by Bubu (here)
    yes its ok. Its been ok with previous presidents. Why should it be any different with Biden?

    I just realized that there is another important agenda that goes with covid. They are training people to be compliant with the ultra absurd.

    Questions here also seems to be becoming more absurd.
    it ABSOLUTELY IS NOT OK!

    and ACCEPTING it?

    TOLERATING it?

    IS NOT OK EITHER

    THAT is HOW we are IN THIS situation in the first place!

    and what is NOT just "absurd" but moving into destructive?
    (NOT "helping" here)

    is criticizing a QUESTION that not only DESERVES to be ASKED?

    but SHOULD HAVE BEEN RAISED AND "ANSWERS" DEMANDED LONG AGO!


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    Questioning is the FIRST step towards "change"

    and this NEEDS to CHANGE
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    Quote Posted by mojo (here)
    Fox videos dont stay up long on youtube though so watching sooner is recommended.
    mojo, I’ll add this even though it may be a repeat of some of your other videos. It comes directly from Fox News, so it won’t be taken down. The same applies for Fox Business. They're reliable Youtube channels.

    Tucker calls for probe into NSA spying on him (8 min)
    Tucker Carlson discusses latest developments with journalist Glenn Greenwald on 'Tucker Carlson Tonight

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    We should defend our way of life
    to an extent that any attempt on it is crushed,

    so that any adversary
    will never make such an attempt in the future.

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    Default Re: The Biden Admin is spying on us... is that ok?

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    yes its ok. Its been ok with previous presidents. Why should it be any different with Biden?

    I just realized that there is another important agenda that goes with covid. They are training people to be compliant with the ultra absurd.

    Questions here also seems to be becoming more absurd.

    Very observant Bubu. There seems to be a goal of pushing cognitive dissonance to the extreme. We all experience a degree of cognitive dissonance but there seems to be a sort of gaslighting and ridicule in the push of this extreme absurdity. And the weird thing is that most people are choosing not to deal with it or even see it no matter how obvious.

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    Quote it ABSOLUTELY IS NOT OK!

    and ACCEPTING it?

    TOLERATING it?

    IS NOT OK EITHER

    THAT is HOW we are IN THIS situation in the first place!

    and what is NOT just "absurd" but moving into destructive?
    (NOT "helping" here)

    is criticizing a QUESTION that not only DESERVES to be ASKED?

    but SHOULD HAVE BEEN RAISED AND "ANSWERS" DEMANDED LONG AGO!
    Thank you iota for that excellent response and thanks RunningDeer, I did remember you mention fox business and fox news for sources. I will check there more often next time but a few times they didnt have the specific subject.

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    Default Re: The Biden Admin is spying on us... is that ok?

    Quote Posted by mojo (here)
    Thank you iota for that excellent response and thanks RunningDeer, I did remember you mention fox business and fox news for sources. I will check there more often next time but a few times they didnt have the specific subject.
    The Dan Bongino Show Clips is another time saver. The producer cuts out all the ads and most of the redundancy. Here’s the most recent clip:

    Who Do You Believe - Tucker Or NSA? (13 min)


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    Default Re: The Biden Admin is spying on us... is that ok?

    It's great that some GOP are raising the alarm...



    Bonginos alert to a comment by Sebastian Gorka about a group in the NSA called TAO ... 7 minutes in
    https://rumble.com/vjas2j-ep.-1554-a...gino-show.html

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    Default Re: The Biden Admin is spying on us... is that ok?

    Well, we already knew the NSA was collecting mega data on everyone in America, and it's there to pull up whenever they choose. Those of us who care have long learned that there's nothing we can do about it, regardless of who's president because they choose to turn the proverbial blind eye, but of course the problem becomes more acute if/when we learn of it being targeted against an individual, especially if it's being used against someone we like.

    My question here is, what evidence does Tucker have that this did indeed happen to him, beyond that some of his emails and texts got loose, that can happen as easily as someone in one of those chains leaking them. Happens all the time, does he have anything else?

    Im just sayin...

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    Default Re: The Biden Admin is spying on us... is that ok?

    Hello Gracy May, I disagree with the assumption that there is nothing we can do about it. We can choose to use our power and vote for one thing, but also to be the watchman on the wall against tyranny no matter what form. And many people myself included say regardless of who's president, spying on citizens of the opposition party or whoever is wrong. I do think there is a problem as you mention when we use our bias only when it's not our interest, therefore spying is wrong and should not be partisan. The links in this post IMO provide enough evidence especially if watching Tuckers show and he explains. He had a conversation that could not have been known by his whistleblower that told him they were spying and of course the couch response from the NSA only support it. Dan Bongino explains this well in the last link I provided.

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    Default Re: The Biden Admin is spying on us... is that ok?

    Well, I'm really starting to see terms like "whistleblower" bandied about more and more loosely as time goes on mojo. Unless I'm mistaken, whistleblowers are supposed to come forward with something the people can sink their teeth into, Edward Snowden being an excellent example of that; otherwise, all we're really talking about is something more akin to the "trusted source", which doesn't do a lot for me with all the gamesmanship and money making going on out there with people looking to make a name for themselves and line their pockets.

    I heard Tucker's reasoning that it couldn't have been anyone else but the NSA (and I'm by no means defending the NSA here!), but if I need to watch another highly partisan Dan Bongino video to explain that further, then it's just telling me there's not a whole lot of there, there. It's like saying just go watch this X22 video, maybe it's just me, but I need more than that.

    If Tucker's "whistleblower" can come up with some direct evidence, I'm all ears.

    Otherwise, so far as I'm concerned it certainly could be something along the lines of one of Tucker's contacts breaking confidentiality. That is a distinct possibility needing to be discounted before moving on up the ladder, if we're to be looking at this like a police detective IMO.

    The old saying is follow the evidence, not follow the narrative.

    Wouldn't you like to see some evidence as well?

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    Quote Posted by Bubu (here)
    yes its ok. Its been ok with previous presidents. Why should it be any different with Biden?

    I just realized that there is another important agenda that goes with covid. They are training people to be compliant with the ultra absurd.

    Questions here also seems to be becoming more absurd.
    it ABSOLUTELY IS NOT OK!

    and ACCEPTING it?

    TOLERATING it?

    IS NOT OK EITHER

    THAT is HOW we are IN THIS situation in the first place!

    and what is NOT just "absurd" but moving into destructive?
    (NOT "helping" here)

    is criticizing a QUESTION that not only DESERVES to be ASKED?

    but SHOULD HAVE BEEN RAISED AND "ANSWERS" DEMANDED LONG AGO!


    Attachment 46918

    Questioning is the FIRST step towards "change"

    and this NEEDS to CHANGE
    of course its absolutely not ok that is why its absolutely absurd to ask "is that ok"?

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    Quote Posted by Bubu (here)
    yes its ok. Its been ok with previous presidents. Why should it be any different with Biden?

    I just realized that there is another important agenda that goes with covid. They are training people to be compliant with the ultra absurd.

    Questions here also seems to be becoming more absurd.

    Very observant Bubu. There seems to be a goal of pushing cognitive dissonance to the extreme. We all experience a degree of cognitive dissonance but there seems to be a sort of gaslighting and ridicule in the push of this extreme absurdity. And the weird thing is that most people are choosing not to deal with it or even see it no matter how obvious.
    A number of times I've been force to comply with the absurds. especially if I have to go to malls for some important things. You're correct about the cognitive dissonance and I certainly dont want to come to a point were I have to question my sanity. Its as if every time I comply, my objection to the absurdities seem to melt a little each time. So I decide to call the absurd as it is. Otherwise we will all be force to comply with it. It takes courage to do so especially when everyone around is complying. But I feel that I have nothing to lose. I already lose everything if things does not go to the right direction.

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    Default Re: The Biden Admin is spying on us... is that ok?

    Today Dan defines a new term, "Traffic shaping," and also more about Tucker & the Bombshell that Sebastian Gorka dropped...

    Its the opening story...
    https://rumble.com/vjc6x3-ep.-1555-i...ongino-sh.html


    Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/vgq0rt
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