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    • UFO Case Review - Belgian UFO Wave, 1989 - 1993 (including Netherlands, Germany & UK):




    UFOs over Belgium in 1989 and '90 led the author on a chase for confirmation and information. The reader is taken along on this quest and given the information as the author found it in the form of transcripts of fighter transmissions, official letters from the British Ministry of Defense with puzzling, contradictory and misleading statements, and other curious incidents. Is there a UFO cover-up in Europe? Sheffield presents enough evidence to raise questions in my mind. Perhaps he is a hoaxer, but if so, he's gone through a lot of trouble to be convincing.
    • Unsolved Mysteries with Robert Stack
      One of the Best Belgian UFO Wave Summary!



    The sightings

    The Belgian UFO wave began in November 1989. The events of 29 November would be documented by no less than thirty different groups of witnesses, and three separate groups of police officers. All of the reports related a large object flying at low altitude. The craft was of a flat, triangular shape, with lights underneath. This giant craft did not make a sound as it slowly moved across the landscape of Belgium. There was free sharing of information as the Belgian populace tracked this craft as it moved from the town of Liege to the border of the Netherlands and Germany.[1]

    The Belgian UFO wave peaked with the events of the night of 30/31 March 1990. On that night unknown objects were tracked on radar, chased by two Belgian Air Force F-16s, photographed, and were sighted by an estimated 13,500 people on the ground – 2,600 of whom filed written statements describing in detail what they had seen.[2] Following the incident the Belgian air force released a report detailing the events of that night.

    At around 23:00 on 30 March the supervisor for the Control Reporting Center (CRC) at Glons received reports that three unusual lights were seen moving towards Thorembais-Gembloux, which lies to the South-East of Brussels. The lights were reported to be brighter than stars, changing color between red, green and yellow, and appeared to be fixed at the vertices of an equilateral triangle. At this point Glons CRC requested the Wavre gendarmerie send a patrol to confirm the sighting.

    Approximately 10 minutes later a second set of lights was sighted moving towards the first triangle. By around 23:30 the Wavre gendarmerie had confirmed the initial sightings and Glons CRC had been able to observe the phenomenon on radar. During this time the second set of lights, after some erratic manoeuvres, had also formed themselves into a smaller triangle. After tracking the targets and after receiving a second radar confirmation from the Traffic Center Control at Semmerzake, Glons CRC gave the order to scramble two F-16 fighters from Beauvechain Air Base shortly before midnight. Throughout this time the phenomenon was still clearly visible from the ground, with witnesses describing the whole formation as maintaining their relative positions while moving slowly across the sky. Witnesses also reported two dimmer lights towards the municipality of Eghezee displaying similar erratic movements to the second set of lights.

    Over the next hour the two scrambled F-16s attempted nine separate interceptions of the targets. On three occasions they managed to obtain a radar lock for a few seconds but each time the targets changed position and speed so rapidly that the lock was broken. During the first radar lock, the target accelerated from 240 km/h to over 1,770 km/h while changing altitude from 2,700 m to 1,500 m, then up to 3,350 m before descending to almost ground level the first descent of more than 900 m taking less than two seconds. Similar manoeuvres were observed during both subsequent radar locks. On no occasion were the F-16 pilots able to make visual contact with the targets and at no point, despite the speeds involved, was there any indication of a sonic boom. Moreover, narrator Robert Stack added in an episode of Unsolved Mysteries, the sudden changes in acceleration and deceleration would have been fatal to one or more human pilots.

    During this time, ground witnesses broadly corroborate the information obtained by radar. They described seeing the smaller triangle completely disappear from sight at one point, while the larger triangle moved upwards very rapidly as the F-16s flew past. After 00:30 radar contact became much more sporadic and the final confirmed lock took place at 00:40. This final lock was once again broken by an acceleration from around 160 km/h to 1,120 km/h after which the radar of the F-16s and those at Glons and Semmerzake all lost contact. Following several further unconfirmed contacts the F-16s eventually returned to base shortly after 01:00.

    The final details of the sighting were provided by the members of the Wavre gendarmerie (police) who had been sent to confirm the original report. They describe four lights now being arranged in a square formation, all making short jerky movements, before gradually losing their luminosity and disappearing in four separate directions at around 01:30. They also reported that a low engine noise was heard and that it seemed to have a stick coming out one end with a turbine on it, which many have claimed shows it was a Helicopter they saw.
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    Default Re: UFO Case Review - Belgian UFO Wave, 1989 - 1991 (+Netherlands, Germany & UK)

    • Belgian UFO Wave 1989-1991
    More than 3,000 people report sightings of a UFO over Belgium.



    Hundreds of eyewitnesses report the UFO



    The UFO appeared over several towns
    • CASE DETAILS
    Since 1989, thousands of people have reported mysterious lights and shapes in the skies over Brussels, Belgium. Almost all the witnesses describe the same object:
    “Basically, what we saw was this big triangle object with three bright white lightings in the corners.”
    “In the middle was a flashing red light. It passed by, approaching the roofs, since it was flying so low.”
    “You could see three white lights which formed an equilateral triangle.”

    • Some eyewitnesses got a close look
    The mystery of the Belgian UFOs began on November 29, 1989, near the small town of Eupen, less than seven miles from the German border. Gendarmes Heinrich Nicoll and Hubert Von Montigny were on a routine patrol. Heinrich described what he and his partner witnessed that night:
    “As we approached the crossroads at Nuevos Road, our attention was drawn to an unusual sight. We saw a field near the road that was all lit up. It was like lights on a huge football field. We thought it was strange, and we wanted to know what was causing those lights. There was a huge triangular platform, and underneath it were strong headlights. And in the middle was this blinking, pulsating orange light. The whole thing was floating in the air.”
    The gendarmes immediately called Albert Creutz, their dispatcher in Eupen:
    “Suddenly, they told me they were seeing a strange object in the sky. It made no noise. We joked about it and said it might be Santa Claus trying to land.”
    Creutz noted the unusual report in his log, but was skeptical. According to Heinrich, he and his partner followed the object as it flew across the Belgian countryside toward Eupen:
    “We could see it clearly because the headlights were very strong. We could also see the flickering orange ball underneath. We were driving very slowly because it seemed like there was someone in that object and that somebody was trying to observe what was happening on Earth.”
    Then a strange light flashed across the window of Albert Creutz’ office:
    “Off in the distance, I could see something bright, but I didn’t know what it was. Suddenly, I saw something that looked like a laser beam shoot out of the light and then come back to the light.”
    Heinrich and his partner followed the silent object:
    “We continued to observe the object as it circled over the city of Eupen. It appeared to be heading toward the forest. On each side of the object there was a kind of laser beam and a ball that was leaving the object and coming back as if the ball were to measure something, so it was easy for us to keep track of it in the sky.”

    • Actual photo of object seen over Belgium
    Creutz contacted four local airports. Each reported no unusual activity. For at least 30 minutes, the gendarmes watched as the object hovered in the distance. And then, according to Heinrich:
    “All of a sudden it came out of nowhere, another spacecraft. We were a little frightened. The one we had been following was still over there, and now a second one was rising up into the sky. At a given moment, it tilted slightly. We could see again the shape of a triangle with bright headlights. We could see some kind of dome on the top of two or three small windows and there was a light inside the object. By the time we realized what it was, the object flew away.”
    Moments later, Albert Creutz became a believer himself:
    “Through the open window I saw a strange machine floating about 500 feet away from me. It looked like a large ship floating in the air. It drifted in front of me for a few seconds, then flew away in the direction of La Calamine. It was a beautiful thing to see.”
    Within minutes, two other gendarmes reported a similar object over the village of La Calamine, eight miles to the north. One of them, Deiter Plumanns, had no doubts about what he saw:
    “We had heard our colleagues talking about this flying object. In the beginning we thought it was some sort of joke, but then we saw something. It wasn’t funny anymore. Both of us had a strange feeling. It was impossible to explain what the object was. We thought it was an American airplane or something. We had no other explanation for what it might be, but it was real, and it was above us.”
    All four of the sightings occurred in one hour, within 20 miles of each other. That same day, 11 other gendarmes and more than 100 private citizens came forward with similar reports of UFOs over the Belgium.

    Then, in April of 1990, an amazing photograph was taken. It showed the same array of lights described by the eyewitnesses. By using a computer to enhance the film’s contrast, the triangular shape was clearly visible. This amazing image was the first photographic evidence that UFOs had invaded the skies above Belgium.

    Overwhelmed by the number of sightings, Belgian authorities brought in an organization called SOBEPS to coordinate reports and set up procedures for dealing with future close encounters. They didn’t have to wait very long.

    According to Captain Jacques Pinson of the Gendarmerie, he was called to a home outside of Brussels when dinner guests reported seeing strange lights in the sky:
    “These points of light were very different than the other stars. They were much bigger and much brighter and not the color of stars. The main colors were reddish or yellow, and the others were green. Later, they began to travel short distances in an erratic manner.”
    At the same time, radar at a NATO tracking station detected an unknown object at that exact location. Lieutenant Colonel Pierre Billen reported that the object showed up as a small circle with a tail in the lower-left quadrant of the radar screen:
    “We phoned to other civilian and military radar sights like Semozag, Virton, Saint-Hubert, and they had precisely the same echo at the same place. We were unable to identify this echo as being either enemy or friendly. It was not very clear for us that there was an aircraft.”
    With confirmations from four radar stations, two F-16s from the Belgian Air Force were immediately deployed. Their mission was to locate and identify the object. The pilots soon locked onto it with their on-board radar. But after just five seconds, the object bolted out of range at an incredible rate of speed. Belgian Air Force Major General W.J.L. De Brouwer was at a loss to explain the encounter:
    “We measured some exceptional accelerations which cannot be related to conventional aircraft. That is clear.”
    For the next hour, the object seemed to play a high-tech game of cat and mouse. According to Lieutenant Colonel Billen, each time pilots achieved lock-on, the object darted out of range:
    “The pilots confirmed that it was impossible for them to accelerate as quick as the target was doing.”
    When the jet’s on board radar footage from that night was analyzed, the UFO could be seen climbing from 7,000 feet to 10,000 feet in a matter of seconds. Then, incredibly, the object plummeted to just 500 feet in only five seconds and accelerated to more than 1,000 miles per hour; that’s 1 1/2 times the speed of sound. This extraordinary combination of acceleration and descent would be fatal to a human pilot.

    And another peculiar fact: even though the craft exceeded the speed of sound, no one on the ground reported hearing a sonic boom. According to Major General De Brouwer, no known aircraft was capable of such acrobatics:
    “The data, then, on all these performances which were registered during the lock-on of the radar, it was totally outside of the normal performance envelope of any airplane.”
    The Belgium UFOs have been observed by thousands of eyewitnesses. They have been recorded on military radar. And one unknown object evaded sophisticated fighter jets. Yet skeptics dismiss the sightings as nothing more than UFO hysteria. They believe that the radar reports are the result of false echoes or changes in atmospheric conditions. But Gendarme Heinrich Nicoll said he knows what he witnessed:
    “Some people don’t believe us and the things we have seen. Well, they’re afraid to believe us. It doesn’t matter to me. But I have seen something, and what else can I say? It was not some invention of my mind. I saw it, and it was very real, and it happened just as I have said.”
    Based on the radar data, Major General De Brouwer concluded that conventional aircraft were no match for the advanced technology his jet fighters encountered:
    “I think it’s our job to try to find out if there is really something in the air, where it comes from, what the origin is, and what the intentions are. Indeed, there is something going on in Belgium which is beyond our control.”
    Despite thousands of sightings in Belgium, there have been just a few reports in the neighboring countries of France, Germany, and the Netherlands. For skeptics, this is more proof that the sightings are the result of overactive imaginations.

    Some people however, speculate that UFOs may be attracted to Belgium’s highway system. It is so brightly lit at night that it was visible even to the astronauts on the moon.
    • Air Force hunting UFOs in Belgium - British TV - Sightings Belgium 1990:

    TV Report about UFO sightings in Belgium in the 90s and the involvement of the military. In the night of 30/31 March about 10.000 belgians observed strange objects in the sky above belgium. When the police received reports from residents, police patrols were sent out only to confirm the sightings. As soon as the military was informed, the NATO Control Center in Glons scrambled F-16 fighters to investigate. The sightings were observed by civilians, by the police, by military personal on the ground and in the air. The events of that night belonged to the belgian UFO wave which lasted from 1989 to 1990 near the belgian/dutch/german border.
    • Maj. Gen. Wilfried de Brouwer (Belgian Air Force) about the Belgian UFO Wave from 1989-1992:

    • The actual radar track of one of the Belgium UFOs:
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    Default Re: UFO Case Review - Belgian UFO Wave, 1989 - 1991 (+Netherlands, Germany & UK)

    Today marks the 30th anniversary of one Europe’s most well known UFO waves. The Berlin Wall had been torn down in October in neighbouring Germany. While in November of 1989 a flap of triangular UFO sightings was made across part of the nation of Belgium. Not a country well known in the history of ufology.

    Black triangle reports date back to the mid 1970s (and occasionally before then). By the early 1980s they were much more common. There was a well known major flap across the Hudson Valley in New York during 1983/4. By the end of the decade there was to be another mass of UFO sightings far across the Atlantic Ocean.

    The First Major Wave of Sightings – November 1989



    Although a few sightings had already occurred, the Belgian UFO flap began to attract serious attention on November 29th 1989 in the area around Eupen, to the East of the country close to the German border. In the early evening Heinrich Nicoll & Hubert Von Montigny. two Belgian police officers (gendarmes). spotted a large, dark, mysterious triangular object descend slowly and almost silently from the sky. It bore lights at each apex and a pulsating red light in the centre. The shape was barely visible against the fading light as it slowly glided over the local countryside. The two officers noticed only a faint buzz or hum as it hovered above a field in their vicinity. Then it appeared to occasionally shine an intense light down on the area.

    The gendarmes decided to give chase in their patrol car. Convinced they were following a structured craft of some sort. As it headed towards the Gileppe Dam the object slowed. It then hovered directly above the water for almost 30 minutes. A second, brightly lit triangular object rose from a ravine about 100 yards from their patrol car during this time on course for the town of Henri-Chappelle. The gendarmes were in shock at what they had witnessed and immediately called Albert Creutz, their dispatcher in Eupen, who was unconvinced something out of the ordinary had been seen. Although the nearby military airfields at Bierset and Elsborn both denied any of their aircraft were in the area.

    Police Officer Hubert Von Montigny:

    "It was twilight but still light enough to see."Below one of the objects I saw three powerful search lights directed to the ground and one orange red flickering light."

    His colleague Heinrich Nicoll stated:

    “We continued to observe the object as it circled over the city of Eupen. It appeared to be heading toward the forest. On each side of the object there was a kind of laser beam and a ball that was leaving the object and coming back as if the ball were to measure something, so it was easy for us to keep track of it in the sky.”
    The sightings had lasted hours. Beginning around 5:45pm and ending around 9:00pm when the craft disappeared as mysteriously as it had appeared. Ten other Belgian gendarmes also gave statements of their own sightings. A large number of civilians, an army colonel and air force meteorologist Valenzano Francesco also submitted witness statements reporting strange objects in the night skies. The Belgian UFO organisation Société Belge d'étude des Phénomènes Spatiaux [SOBEPS] recorded over 100 reports of the objects on the evening of November 29th 1989.

    Sightings continued to be reported throughout December 1989. Including:

    Dec 1st 1989: Eupen – Several reports of a lozenge shaped craft approx 30m in length with brightly flashing white lights and an orange or red central light.
    Dec 5th 1989 : Aix-la-Chappelle – Driving through the town just before 10pm a couple reported an object emitting bright lights downward onto the road making little noise. It also had an orange light on the underside. Around 11:15pm as they returned home they reported seeing the same object flying low nearby their home.
    Dec 12th 1989 : Jupille, 35 miles SW from Eupen – Witnesses claimed to have seen a huge oval object land and appearing to be jammed in the trees. It exhibited small lights that changed from red to blue then rose slightly a few times before settling onto the ground. Eventually moving off shooting a bright light into the night sky. Police later found a circular mark in the meadow where the object had landed.

    Various other sightings were made in 1989 and continued into the Spring of 1990.

    Some press reports blamed the sightings on secret flights of the F117A. However there was no evidence to suggest this was the case. Officials from the USAF also denied any such aircraft had overflown Belgian airspace.

    The Second Major Wave of Sightings – March 1990

    UFO reports continued throughout the winter of 1989/90. Fighters were scrambled on a number of occasions. But each time any positive result eluded them. By the night of March 30th/31st 1990 the Belgian UFO wave hit another peak. An unidentified object was tracked in Belgian airspace on radar and two air force F-16s were launched to intercept from Beauvechain, the nearest airbase.




    The F-16s ascended to 3,000 feet and locked on to a target, confirming back to base that they were tracking a "structured UFO". But then suddenly, according to the pilots, it began to behave in an erratic manner.

    The on-board radar screens registered a quickly changing diamond shape, which rapidly accelerated to 600mph and then abruptly slowed to 170mph afterwards. Next the object appeared to plunge 3,300 feet in two seconds and accelerated from 170mph to 1,100mph in the same time without any trace of a sonic boom.

    During their 65 minute observation, the pilots took 15 photographs. But pursuit in their F-16s, capable of more than twice the speed of sound, proved impossible.

    Over the previous months, there had been sporadic sightings of UFOs in the skies over Belgium. But now it seemed there was hard scientific evidence to support them.

    According to the instruments aboard the fighters, the craft pulled away at 46G - 46 times the force of gravity – and enough to crush a human skeleton. The object then headed west across the English Channel towards the South Eastern coast of Britain. The British however decided no response was required and no threat was posed (as per released FOI documents. DEFE 24 1970.)

    By the time questions were asked of the Ministry of Defence’s response (or lack of) the radar evidence had been wiped.




    The Photo Evidence

    In April of 1990 a photograph surfaced showing a triangle shaped object. It appeared similar to the descriptions given by many other witnesses over previous months. There was no background and it was impossible to gauge any size or distance. Some felt the photo was genuine. However others remained suspicious of its origins.

    Members of the Belgian UFO organization Société Belge d'étude des Phénomènes Spatiaux (SOBEPS) felt that the picture was genuine. As did Leslie Kean who claimed in her book UFOs: Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials Go on the Record

    “....state-of-the-art analysis was provided by a number of laboratories on the superior photograph of a craft, one of the best UFO pictures on record......A team under the direction of Professor Marc Acheroy discovered that a triangular shape became visible when overexposing the slide. After that, the original color slide was further analyzed by Frangois Louange, specialist in satellite imagery with the French national space research center, CNES; Dr. Richard Haines, former senior scientist with NASA; and finally Professor Andre Marion, doctor in nuclear physics and professor at the University of Paris-Sud and also with CNES.” (p. 30)
    Alas just a year after her book was published the photo was revealed as a hoax. On July 26th 2011, in an interview on Belgian TV channel, RTL, Patrick Maréchal explained that he’d hoaxed the photo. Telling the audience that it was not a spaceship from a distant galaxy but a panel of painted styrofoam with three spots affixed to it.

    Of course that did not negate the sightings by thousands of witnesses but it harmed the story. Many Ufologists, including representatives of the Belgian UFO organization SOBEPS and author Leslie Kean, questioned this hoax story. While the debunkers felt vindication.

    The Explanations



    1989-1990 was of course a time before the age of the internet and digital cameras built into smartphones were still a generation away. So people were hardly likely to be carrying a camera in the dark winter nights. What little photographic evidence came to light is of poor quality (or was hoaxed).

    Explanations and theories ranged from F117A test flights (as mentioned earlier), to helicopters, remote controlled blimps, the AWACS surveillance aircraft (which were used by NATO forces in Europe) to a social phenomenon and even a fully orchestrated hoax (although by whom remains unclear). One puzzling factor was that the flap seemed to have been isolated to the French speaking area of Belgium. Neighbouring countries also had very few UFO reports during the Belgian flap.

    Major General Wilfried De Brouwer of the Belgian Air Force ,who co-operated with the civilian investigations, claimed in Leslie Kean’s book.
    The technology used by these crafts was so advanced that even today, twenty years later, it is not available. The most important conclusion is that there must have been air activities of unknown origin in the airspace of Belgium. The number of cases and the credibility of the vast number of witnesses leave us with an intriguing mystery.
    In 1991 the local Belgian UFO organisation SOBEPS went a step further and published a book called Vague d'OVNI sur la Belgique, (The Belgian UFO Wave). Authored by Auguste Meessen it became a leading source on the case for many media articles and researchers.

    The book concluded that
    “The only reasonable hypothesis is that of unidentified flying objects... of extraterrestrial origin."
    In conclusion, there is no proof that Belgium was visited by one or more extra-terrestrial spacecraft during 1980/1990. Yet, despite all the theories and explanations, the events of this Belgian UFO Wave have never been completely explained.
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    Default Re: UFO Case Review - Belgian UFO Wave, 1989 - 1991 (+Netherlands, Germany & UK)

    • Intriguing Sightings Of The Belgian UFO Wave:

    • Belgium General says incredible UFO case is a Mystery - Exclusive:

    In this video, retired Belgian Air Force General Wilfried De Brouwer discusses a wave of triangular UFOs he investigated in 1989 and 1990. He was in charge of the Belgian Air Force's official investigation. They never came to a definite conclusion as to where the mysterious triangles came from. De Brouwer also discusses the controversial photograph that was allegedly taken in Petit-Rechain.


    • General Major (Chief of Staffs) Wilfried de Brouwer:
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    Default Re: UFO Case Review - Belgian UFO Wave, 1989 - 1991 (+Netherlands, Germany & UK)

    It is not clear if the Belgium black triangle UAP was of extraterrestrial in origin, but it is extremely difficult to imagine that anyone on Earth with such technology would not have put it to use in the last 100 years. According to General De Brouwer’s provides a good testimony of the events and investigation and concluded the ETH.

    The earliest known reports of the ‘Black Triangles’ like the Belgium triangle can be traced to the Dutch East Indies in the late 1890s, around 10 years prior to the Wright Brothers’ first powered airplane flight in 1903. Triangle UFOs were also reported from Scotland and England in 1895.

    Unidentified triangular craft, whether the sightings represent advanced US spy craft—as some speculate—or something of unknown origin, their purpose remains mysterious. Given their consistent hovering behavior, they might be engaged in surveillance of some nature—or scanning. Or analyzing the topography.

    The UAP Black Triangles have not only been witnessed and interpreted as such in pre aeronautical era but the characteristics of UAP in general can even be traced to pre aeronautical times with patterns around the Earth.

    When one establishes an important profile of morphological, luminous, and kinetic characteristics of triangular objects and their surrounding atmosphere, that should be examined earnestly by anyone professing serious interest in UAP. Scientists have the opportunity of studying genuine filmed images and recorded electronic emissions of flying triangles. There are many examples that reveal state-of-the-art terrestrial technology as highly inferior by comparison.

    With so many reports of triangle UFOs going back to the 1950s, I wonders if military experimental aircraft can account for all of these sightings. The consensus of opinion of research on triangular UAP shows they are not `US black project' vehicles, because they are unmatched by any terrestrially-sourced technology. The triangular UAP were not only recorded for the first time, but in 2019 finally announced by the Pentagon in 2021.

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    Default Re: UFO Case Review - Belgian UFO Wave, 1989 - 1991 (+Netherlands, Germany & UK)

    1895 too 2021 and they still have no official clue, yeah right Doh

    That Belgian event was a well documented, open investigation.
    Thanks for digging it out again John, very appropriate.

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    Default Re: UFO Case Review - Belgian UFO Wave, 1989 - 1991 (+Netherlands, Germany & UK)

    My very first UFO Encounter was in July 1990 (being 24 years old and it happened during my job at Night ±1:40 AM as a Security Officer) in Amsterdam park called Gaasperplas with a Big &Deep Lake.
    • Shortly after my own encounter I decided to form/create a UFO Work Group with a genuine UFO "Hotline" a phone-number being promoted all over the media (locally and nationally).
    Gave many UFO lectures and wrote articles for our "Exposure Magazine" that later became "Frontier Magazine" both co-founded by me.

    A Dutch National Newspaper & "Dutch National Talk-show called: "Lijn 5 Live" (35 minutes uncensored discussion with Mariska Hulscher + open lines for questions from the viewers ... Produced by IDTV (wiki - linkedin) ... She asked me to analyze, study & discuss a camera footage filming Triangle UFO with pulsating center from green to purple to blue to orange etc. filmed by a German being in The Netherlands near the border (Kerkrade, South Limburg) on a high rise building roof tops! ... On the same day 2 Police Officers saw exactly the same object at same place and same time.

    As you can see in the title of this Project Avalon forum thread my UFO encounter during the "UFO Wave" 1989-1991.
    • So much weirdness happened to me being in the spotlight several times in the Dutch mass media discussing UFOs ... I can easily write a book about it.
    Maybe it is time I just do it ...

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    Default Re: UFO Case Review - Belgian UFO Wave, 1989 - 1991 (+Netherlands, Germany & UK)

    Quote My very first UFO Encounter was in July 1990 (being 24 years old and it happened during my job at Night ±1:40 AM as a Security Officer) in Amsterdam park called Gaasperplas with a Big Lake that was very deep.
    I would love to hear about your encounter. Also is there more than one? What in your opinion was the most interesting part of the experience? I have a few personal events that were shared in past posts, but not all. Some of the encounters would seem outlandish and it was always hard enough just to try and get others to believe. Do you find that to be the case? Give others the lower hanging fruit in paranormal experiences for fear of ridicule. Although I consider it a blessing to have witnessed & filmed... Thanks...

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    The TR-3B Astra or TR-3 Black Manta





    The TR-3 Black Manta is the name of a surveillance aircraft of the United States Air Force, speculated to be developed under a black project. The only known confirmed evidence for such an aircraft is based on speculations about several reported sightings of mysterious flying wing aircraft over Antelope Valley, an area of desert in southern California.

    This stretch of desert draws people interested in potential "black project"-related aircraft, because it is close to several known military research and testing areas, such as Edwards Air Force Base in California, and United States Air Force Plant 42.

    The TR-3 was said to be a subsonic stealth spy plane with a flying wing design. It was alleged to have been used in the Gulf War to provide laser designation for Lockheed F-117 Nighthawk bombers, for targeting to use with laser-guided bombs. The TR-3 was claimed to have been manufactured by Northrop.

    How the TR-3 designation came up in publications is unclear. It is clearly not a continuation of the R-for-Reconnaissance series, since ER-2 (NASA designation for U-2 aircraft modified for Earth science studies) stood for "Earth Resources", not "Electronic Reconnaissance".

    It is, therefore possible that TR-3 is merely a corruption of Tier III, a name given to a cancelled large reconnaissance unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) flying wing designed around the time of alleged sightings of the Black Manta, circa 1988–1990. The Tier III Minus program that resulted in the unsuccessful Lockheed Martin RQ-3 DarkStar was a scaled-down derivative of the original Tier III.


    Because there is little evidence to support TR-3s existence, only sightings and "experience" stories by real people and also the web discussions on it, it is possible that the mysterious flying wing sightings associated with Black Manta could be a technology demonstrator for a potential new-generation tactical reconnaissance aircraft.

    This contention is supported by United States Air Force (USAF) sources in the late 1980s confirming that the United States had no short-term plans to develop a low-observable U-2 successor.

    Another candidate for the alleged spy plane is a design from Teledyne Ryan, patented in the United States on April 26, 1977, under number 4,019,699. This aircraft of low observability, as it is called, was invented by Robert W. Wintersdorff and George R. Cota, employees at Teledyne Ryan, a firm specialized in building unmanned reconnaissance aircraft.

    On May 10, 1977, a design of an aircraft was patented by Teledyne Ryan under number Des. 244,265, and closely resembles the earlier mentioned example. This design was made by Waldo Virgil Opfer. The first design is unmanned, the second one manned. Whether one of these designs is related to the above-mentioned TR-3 is not positively identified, but it is a coincidence that TR also stands for Teledyne Ryan. Teledyne Ryan was acquired by Northrop Grumman in 1999.



    Michael Schratt on the TR-3B


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    Quote Hydrogen-Oxygen variable vectored rocket engines ?
    is that what they have ? Thought it was more Gravitic than that?
    The one i nearly saw didn't seem to have rockets in those positions.

    I've seen many of the different types of craft but the Triangle type I've missed out on so far.

    I was out walking the dogs in a fine drizzle rain blizzard, was like the cloud had come down to ground level, and I noticed above me in the blur of rain a bright light, then a second flickered into sight. A third tried to show but blinked out taking the first with it, this went on in random combinations for a few mins.
    Never all 3 ? think it was having problems.
    The light always appearing in the same positions, an equal triangle.
    The light reminded me of an Arc Welders eclectic light effect.
    Never saw the body of the craft because of the rain, it just despaired

    PS: the only scared feeling I had was thinking it was having problems staying up there above me.
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    • The Belgian Wave, UFOs over Europe, 1989 1993, part 1/4:

    • The Belgian Wave, UFOs over Europe, 1989 1993, part 2:

    • The Belgian Wave, 1989 1993, part 3:
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