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    Default Why Do UFOs Move Erratically ??

    For starters here's one most of us are familiar with :-

    "It's Rotating !" - What's that all about ?



    So why did the "Gimbal" rotate ?
    Was it just to say "Look what I can do" ? Or was there a more meaningful reason ?

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    Why did the "Tic-Tac" seen by Commander Fravor, dart about like a ping-pong ball ?
    Was it just to get his attention ? Or was there a more meaningful reason ?

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    Why do UFOs often make 90 degree turns ?, or 180 degree turns ?
    (Admittedly, we sometimes do this, but UFOs seem to do it frequently.)

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    Quote Posted by boja (here)
    Why do UFOs often make 90 degree turns ?, or 180 degree turns ?
    (Admittedly, we sometimes do this, but UFOs seem to do it frequently.)
    If one could turn instantly, without seeming to suffer the effects of inertia, it would be a superb defensive tactic against being tracked or targeted. So maybe it would be a sensible manoeuvre to make a standard part of your flight plan?

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    Default Re: Why Do UFOs Move Erratically ??

    If our clock speed (CPU speed) is much slower than that of the ETs, what appears rapid to us may be slow to them. I see examples of this in nature: insects and birds. The ETs may have found a work around to bypass inertia.

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    • Why Do UFOs Move Erratically ??
    01. Switching Zoom on and off when using the camera can give the appearance of "erratic movements".
    02. Altering (warping) Time-Space gives the appearance of erratic movements but when doing it yourself, you perceive it differently.
    03. When anyone on the planet using a hand-held camera filming an UFO/UAP without use of a stable tripod, the more you have zoomed in the more "erratic" the object seems to behave.
    04. Some UFOs may do it on purpose to make us (& military) scratch our heads
    05. Alien (or Human made) drones/probes may use ElectroGravitics dodging (evasive movements) to avoid being targeted by military radar "lock-on's" used for guided missiles reaching it's target!
    06. Maybe "we are all part in a giant 'virtual reality program' run by Alien A.I.".
    • I studied, among others: Dr. Richard Haines "U.A.P.'s" long before the term UAP became "a thing".

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    Default Re: Why Do UFOs Move Erratically ??

    It might be because there's no one in them. If a UFO is operated by what we would call AI, and that AI is operating at a much higher rate of processing time than we, and were inertialess both as Ron Mauer suggested, then the movement would make sense.

    If ET did not find a way around the rate of causation we call 'c' (lightspeed), then living organisms would be unlikely to be inside the UFOs. The logical thing to do would be to run the UFOs with computers, with artificial intelligence.

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    Default Re: Why Do UFOs Move Erratically ??

    If they're projections from the ground or elsewhere they would appear to move erratically. Try to make a smooth projection with a flashlight. Not so easy.

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    Default Re: Why Do UFOs Move Erratically ??

    I think many (not all) of these UFOs are unmanned probes and gravitational force is not really a factor. These crafts are capable of enormous speed while travelling in the atmosphere and erratic flight patterns are just the most efficient way to complete the task.

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    I didn't see any erratic movement in that video ... But there are other recordings where extreme sharp turns and accelerations are made which would normally kill any human ... We are told by insiders that the drive used is a type of anti gravity which also has the effect of suspending inertia inside the craft , the occupants will feel nothing....

    Most craft seen in these videos will be piloted by humans ... they are SSP craft ... Technically secret US craft ... The grunts filming will have no idea they're filming their own people.

    Here's the story of Michael Gearloff .. he signed up for the normal US military , because he was the "best of the best" he was given the opportunity to join the SSP ... This is the type of person piloting the craft in these videos ...


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    Quote Posted by oz93666 (here)
    I didn't see any erratic movement in that video ... But there are other recordings where extreme sharp turns and accelerations are made which would normally kill any human ... We are told by insiders that the drive used is a type of anti gravity which also has the effect of suspending inertia inside the craft , the occupants will feel nothing....
    The US Navy has filed patents for: 'Craft Using an Inertial Mass Reduction Device.'

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...re#post1399329

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    Quote Posted by Journeyman (here)
    The US Navy has filed patents for: 'Craft Using an Inertial Mass Reduction Device.'
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...re#post1399329
    Thanks for that link Jm , I wasn't aware they were patenting it!! ... Normally it's so secret it's kept off world ... That patent was in 2018 and covers a triangular craft ... aka the TR3 . this is the most common craft in the SSP pictured in the video I posted above ... It's been around at least 50 years abducting our children and now starting forest fires .It still works fine , so why replace it?

    The TR3 is so well known in the UFO community there's even a company selling a plastic construction kit!!!



    But why NOW patent it?

    The most reliable source we have (KM) says aliens are soon to land giving us advanced tech to save us from "global warming" .. free energy , anti gravity propulsion .. This is a move by the government to patent it first ... so even if the ET's do freely release the tech it's already patented by the government ...

    These aliens will be the same malevolents who control society now using the human Cabal ... they will want us to give governance of the world to them , cos they say we've messed up ..

    See V the original mini series for a likely possible future
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    Quote Posted by oz93666 (here)
    But why NOW patent it?
    I don't know, but how about:

    1. This is Mil disinfo aimed at adversaries, encouraging them to waste resources in the wrong area.

    2. It's part of a psy-op aimed at the public, sending us down blind alleys. See also other disclosure activity.

    2. (I think this came from a Benjamin Fulford post I saw but can't confirm, the first sentence is though). The Cabal project is coming to an end as opposition from alliance of other global powers is mounting. The USD will soon not be the world's reserve currency and when that happens there will be a massive deficit in the US that can no longer be tackled by printing greenbacks. Paying for imported goods will be difficult. The US is now reaching into the storehouse of secret tech, possibly from UFO origins, in order to try to monetise it and thus survive in a new and more challenging economic climate.

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    Default Re: Why Do UFOs Move Erratically ??

    Why do UFOs move erratically, may be explained from not only learning the physics from UAP, but also understanding our physics in order to make an interpretation. Even if we are speculating about motives like avoidance issues using some sort of erratic movement it doesn't drill down to the source of the physics and technologies from UAP.

    Summary:

    I will first say that the UFO subject is so complex and varied that it would be presumptuous to advance anything but hypotheses limited to an attempt to decode very particular aspects. Kevin Knuth in a SCU paper has evaluated the accelerations linked to different observations and puts forward a figure ranging from 70 to 5000 g. Let's add two other aspects:

    - The changes of direction at right angles
    - Sudden appearances and disappearances.

    Classical physics is based on two types of mass:

    - Gravitational mass: the way a mass contributes to the gravitational field, acting on other masses
    - Inertial mass: The way an object reacts if it is subjected to a force.

    One of the fundamental ideas of general relativity is the principle of equivalence which prescribes that these two masses are identical.
    The different behaviors of UFOs suggest a manipulation of the mass or of these masses. If this manipulation results in an inversion of the mass, insofar as the associated energy, which results from the multiplication of the mass by the square of the speed of light, or of a speed of light, suggests that these objects have an equally negative energy.

    IMHO these UFOs are not automatically the manifestation of a transcendent reality but a different way that the ordinary way, consisting of atoms (position "nuts and bolts") would involve, in this case by "reversing its mass". In this case these objects having acquired a negative energy, could emit photons of negative energy, that our eyes and instruments of observation could not then collect any more. Thus an inversion of the mass would result in a disappearance or appearance on the spot of such objects resulting in aspects as erratic behavior.

    Another consequence of this hypothesis of mass manipulation is the idea that the concept of acceleration and deceleration could no longer be appropriate to analyze trajectories. The corollary is that it would then be vain to try to interpret these accelerations by invoking a propulsion system.

    If extraterrestrials can manipulate the mass of particles, a manipulation of the electric charge, and more generally of the quantum charges, the electric charge being only one of them, would then be possible. If it is then possible to invert the quantum charges, it would be like being able to convert matter into antimatter at will. This would constitute a fantastic source of energy, but immediately the basis of weapons next to which our thermonuclear weapons would be like matches.

    I would link this to the fact that UFO crashes do not seem to be immediately associated with a fantastic release of energy as would be the crash of an airplane and its fuel load. Another idea: if UFOs bring into play important energies to operate a supposed manipulation of the mass, this energy could be synthesized and not taken from an energy reservoir.

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    Tomcat Post 6. "If they're projections from the ground or elsewhere they would appear to move erratically. Try to make a smooth projection with a flashlight. Not so easy."

    In these conditions, there is technology that allows one or more UFOs to appear and then disappear at night, to move at fantastic speeds, accompanied by sudden right-angle turns.

    And all this in the greatest silence, so obviously these evolutions seem to be carried out at a hypersonic speed.

    In plasma physics it is enough to make two beams of microwaves of frequencies N1 and N2 cross each other, such that the difference of the frequencies N1 - N2 corresponds to the optimum to ionize the air. We thus make a plasma ball, of any shape, in the atmospheric air, at high altitude. By sweeping the sky with these beams one gives the impression "that an object moves" whereas it is equivalent to the spot of light produced by a lamp on a ceiling.

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    Default Re: Why Do UFOs Move Erratically ??

    Assuming they're in their own inertial frame of reference (i.e. in some kind of "gravity bubble" of their own, with no G forces or any kind of inertia operating on their movement), they can do whatever they like.

    They don't have to move "smoothly" (as we humans would view it). It makes no difference to the pilots (human or ET) whether the movement is "smooth" or not. They'd not feel any movement at all... they're not getting jerked around in there.
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    Default Re: Why Do UFOs Move Erratically ??

    Whitley Streiber recently said on Coast radio that he recovered a piece of metal from a UFO and had it analysed at a university. The professor told him that it had an "isotopic ratio" not possible to produce in this universe.

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