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    Quote Posted by Vicus (here)
    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    What if, let's say, one time loooooooooong ago, you just said "To hell with this" (pun intended) and said "I'm God, i can do whatever i want, so i'm going to stop being God and enjoy a different life", then you erased your memories and then you came here and joined Avalon

    #Whatif
    like He did in this movie, living 3 different at the time...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nines
    Because of the emoji.. i was searching for "The_NInes:Angel"... LMFAO!

    But now i found it, going to watch, thanks
    Tired

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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    Quote Posted by East Sun (here)
    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    "If Prime Creator created EVERYTHING ... then everything that comes from it is off it" (like sparks of a fire).
    • still so many do not get it
    cheers,
    John
    Thanks John,

    The most important word there is, "IF"

    ES
    And to build upon that further "IF" Prime Creator is not the original creator of everything then that begs the question who was really first

    If I create an autonomous Quantum A.I. Robot having the freedom to do what it deems fit/necessary >>> even things I can not produce myself nor think of myself >>> it literately outgrows my expectations ... who is CORE responsible for all of its aftermaths? ... Who was first? ... me or the Quantum A.I. Robot?

    The problem could be that I created something that I have no power to correct nor power to solve it ... so if the Prime Creator made a similar "mistake" we all assume Prime Creator has always the last word the last judgement and has always the power to fix anything ... right?

    So when one third of the Heavens were at war in a place that suppose to be "perfect" & "flawless" .. Why were those Fallen Angels banned/outcasted in to the Earth ... why not Pluto or any other Exo-Planet? ... Is the Universe not big enough?

    It is like we suppose to be "God's children" and we are mixed with predatory pedophiles ... What do you expect what is going to happen next?

    If you let your children go to a school where it is known that one of the teachers is a convicted pedophile ... who is core-responsible for anything bad that can happen in the future at that school?

    disclaimer:
    • By the way I do not claim that I am so sure that anything of the above really happened ... I just want to point out the flaws in plane logic & common sense of assumed paradoxical assumptions so many believers have and I never get any real satisfactory answers ever ...
    How I see it ... (my perspectives):

    We are all allowed to experience a level of consciousness as a mirror of our actions, choices & (constructive & destructive) beliefs .. that has NO EFFECT on other level of consciousness ... just like your firewall can create a sub-virtual hard drive space that is in quarantine and test if any program is harmful or not.

    So in essence: if it turns out that we all are "spiritually tested"... makes perfectly sense to me.

    cheers,
    John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV'
    July 12th, 2021
    What about spontaneous evolution. After millions of years in the ocean we/they/it crawled out on to land and after billions of years more we evolves to our present state OR

    We were taken by, unknown to us now, from a distant place/planet or
    other and put on Earth as an experiment thousands of years ago and the experiment is not over yet OR they just forgot
    about us. OR any of countless possibilities.

    ES
    Question Everything, always speak truth... Make the best of today, for there may not be a tomorrow!!! But, that's OK because tomorrow never comes, so we have nothing to worry about!!!

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    Default Re: Spirituality in its essence....

    Quote Posted by East Sun (here)
    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    Quote Posted by East Sun (here)
    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    "If Prime Creator created EVERYTHING ... then everything that comes from it is off it" (like sparks of a fire).

    • still so many do not get it

    cheers,
    John
    Thanks John,

    The most important word there is, "IF"

    ES
    And to build upon that further "IF" Prime Creator is not the original creator of everything then that begs the question who was really first

    If I create an autonomous Quantum A.I. Robot having the freedom to do what it deems fit/necessary >>> even things I can not produce myself nor think of myself >>> it literately outgrows my expectations ... who is CORE responsible for all of its aftermaths? ... Who was first? ... me or the Quantum A.I. Robot?

    The problem could be that I created something that I have no power to correct nor power to solve it ... so if the Prime Creator made a similar "mistake" we all assume Prime Creator has always the last word the last judgement and has always the power to fix anything ... right?

    So when one third of the Heavens were at war in a place that suppose to be "perfect" & "flawless" .. Why were those Fallen Angels banned/outcasted in to the Earth ... why not Pluto or any other Exo-Planet? ... Is the Universe not big enough?

    It is like we suppose to be "God's children" and we are mixed with predatory pedophiles ... What do you expect what is going to happen next?

    If you let your children go to a school where it is known that one of the teachers is a convicted pedophile ... who is core-responsible for anything bad that can happen in the future at that school?

    disclaimer:
    • By the way I do not claim that I am so sure that anything of the above really happened ... I just want to point out the flaws in plane logic & common sense of assumed paradoxical assumptions so many believers have and I never get any real satisfactory answers ever ...

    How I see it ... (my perspectives):

    We are all allowed to experience a level of consciousness as a mirror of our actions, choices & (constructive & destructive) beliefs .. that has NO EFFECT on other level of consciousness ... just like your firewall can create a sub-virtual hard drive space that is in quarantine and test if any program is harmful or not.

    So in essence: if it turns out that we all are "spiritually tested"... makes perfectly sense to me.

    cheers,
    John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV'
    July 12th, 2021
    What about spontaneous evolution. After millions of years in the ocean we/they/it crawled out on to land and after billions of years more we evolves to our present state OR

    We were taken by, unknown to us now, from a distant place/planet or
    other and put on Earth as an experiment thousands of years ago and the experiment is not over yet OR they just forgot
    about us. OR any of countless possibilities.

    ES



    you assume they may "forgot" about us ... meanwhile they may well use time-travel technology and can skip 1000s of years to see what the after-effect of their (genetic) intervention was
    Last edited by ExomatrixTV; 15th July 2021 at 00:03.
    No need to follow anyone, only consider broadening (y)our horizon of possibilities ...

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    Source always answers, is up to us to listen... it´s called free will. Awesome conversation. thank you all and much love
    honoring White Feather: SHIFT HAPPENED

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    Default Re: Spirituality in its essence....

    Quote Posted by oz93666 (here)
    Quote Posted by East Sun (here)
    Hey God,
    if there is a a god, I would appreciate some communication to let us know that you exist.
    How about it?
    If we get no reply we will know that you do not in fact exist.
    God is way ahead of you Sun ... He has already communicated very loud and clear ... answering any question you might have , Is Epstein still alive? ...were the moon landing s fake? is covid real ... UFO's ? Aliens?

    These questions and answers have already be logged and filed and are available to you ....

    But aside from questions , God has something he want's to say to you ... I'll paraphrase it for you ....

    Humanity is in a critical position ... The outside forces that have been manipulating you for thousands of years are now board with the game and plan complete extermination (just taking a few million as slaves) ... These ET are millions of years old and so advanced you cannot imagine , telepathic , psychic , have access to the Akashic records , have time travel and advanced mind control .. they cannot be defeated by any physical opposition ..But they have one blind spot and humanity has one ace card ...

    You have the ability to partner with the Divine Realm , But in this free will reality you have to ask ! If you don't ask for help it's taken as an indication you want to do things alone ..AND THAT CHOICE WILL BE RESPECTED.

    So first you have to believe there is a Divine Realm (God) , then invite a partnership ... The Prayer most effective for saving humanity from destruction goes something like this ...

    "Creator God .... Partner with me in sending Divine love and healing to the dark forces oppressing humanity , May they be uplifted and depart from our world ."
    Beautifull thank you
    honoring White Feather: SHIFT HAPPENED

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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    Quote Posted by East Sun (here)
    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    Quote Posted by East Sun (here)
    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    "If Prime Creator created EVERYTHING ... then everything that comes from it is off it" (like sparks of a fire).

    • still so many do not get it

    cheers,
    John
    Thanks John,

    The most important word there is, "IF"

    ES
    And to build upon that further "IF" Prime Creator is not the original creator of everything then that begs the question who was really first

    If I create an autonomous Quantum A.I. Robot having the freedom to do what it deems fit/necessary >>> even things I can not produce myself nor think of myself >>> it literately outgrows my expectations ... who is CORE responsible for all of its aftermaths? ... Who was first? ... me or the Quantum A.I. Robot?

    The problem could be that I created something that I have no power to correct nor power to solve it ... so if the Prime Creator made a similar "mistake" we all assume Prime Creator has always the last word the last judgement and has always the power to fix anything ... right?

    So when one third of the Heavens were at war in a place that suppose to be "perfect" & "flawless" .. Why were those Fallen Angels banned/outcasted in to the Earth ... why not Pluto or any other Exo-Planet? ... Is the Universe not big enough?

    It is like we suppose to be "God's children" and we are mixed with predatory pedophiles ... What do you expect what is going to happen next?

    If you let your children go to a school where it is known that one of the teachers is a convicted pedophile ... who is core-responsible for anything bad that can happen in the future at that school?

    disclaimer:
    • By the way I do not claim that I am so sure that anything of the above really happened ... I just want to point out the flaws in plane logic & common sense of assumed paradoxical assumptions so many believers have and I never get any real satisfactory answers ever ...

    How I see it ... (my perspectives):

    We are all allowed to experience a level of consciousness as a mirror of our actions, choices & (constructive & destructive) beliefs .. that has NO EFFECT on other level of consciousness ... just like your firewall can create a sub-virtual hard drive space that is in quarantine and test if any program is harmful or not.

    So in essence: if it turns out that we all are "spiritually tested"... makes perfectly sense to me.

    cheers,
    John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV'
    July 12th, 2021
    What about spontaneous evolution. After millions of years in the ocean we/they/it crawled out on to land and after billions of years more we evolves to our present state OR

    We were taken by, unknown to us now, from a distant place/planet or
    other and put on Earth as an experiment thousands of years ago and the experiment is not over yet OR they just forgot
    about us. OR any of countless possibilities.

    ES



    you assume they may "forgot" about us ... meanwhile they may well use time-travel technology and can skip 1000s of years to see what the after-effect of their (genetic) intervention was

    Thank you John,

    I don't assume anything. Anything is possible.

    ES
    Last edited by East Sun; 15th July 2021 at 19:04.
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    Default Re: Spirituality in its essence....

    God reveals Himself in us as us ... but first there must be a falling away ... or same truth ... the casting off of untimely figs ...

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    In my initial post I neglected to ask God, "If you do exist just let us know without a doubt, then we could get on with
    the rest of our lives communicating with you and giving you respect, doing the right things and loving our fellow beings."

    Then we'd all be happy. Win, win situation through all the world. But that BIG "IF" still remains. We await your
    reply... If we hear nothing then we'll know nothing.

    ES
    Question Everything, always speak truth... Make the best of today, for there may not be a tomorrow!!! But, that's OK because tomorrow never comes, so we have nothing to worry about!!!

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