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    It certainly feels like a process of purification or refreshening in spiritual sense when meditating through the heart center. Interesting take on how that ties into the physical world of structure and shape presented in the video, I can dig that kind of thinking.
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    This video is especially meaningful to me.

    For someone who has been struggling with heart issues for so long, it was almost surreal to see the thing so openly...even before he began unwinding it! To have something so close to you cause you so much grief, but to not be able to see it, and then have it right in front of you...well it's like seeing a sports idol on tv for 40 years and then meeting him/her in the flesh finally.

    The heart is so misunderstood. One thing I've discovered, having had all these heart issues, is that the heart really isn't a pump. Sure, it pumps alright, but that's not it's primary purpose. It's actually more like a battery. When your heart begins to weaken, this becomes sort of obvious.

    There were times when I couldnt even feel my heart. It was beating so feebly. And of course I felt awful in all sorts of ways, but I didn't die and I could still perform basic physical functions. And I recall thinking that this shouldn't be possible. How can I mow the lawn for example when I'm too weak to talk? My extremities should have fallen limp with a lack of blood flow. But the heart isn't really responsible for blood flow, not in the way we think it is anyway. The arteries and veins push the blood along actually thru a complex series of motions. The heart is a damn battery. That was my own revelation, but I've heard it confirmed by people I respect since, multiple times.

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    This video is especially meaningful to me.

    For someone who has been struggling with heart issues for so long, it was almost surreal to see the thing so openly...even before he began unwinding it! To have something so close to you cause you so much grief, but to not be able to see it, and then have it right in front of you...well it's like seeing a sports idol on tv for 40 years and then meeting him/her in the flesh finally.

    The heart is so misunderstood. One thing I've discovered, having had all these heart issues, is that the heart really isn't a pump. Sure, it pumps alright, but that's not it's primary purpose. It's actually more like a battery. When your heart begins to weaken, this becomes sort of obvious.

    There were times when I couldnt even feel my heart. It was beating so feebly. And of course I felt awful in all sorts of ways, but I didn't die and I could still perform basic physical functions. And I recall thinking that this shouldn't be possible. How can I mow the lawn for example when I'm too weak to talk? My extremities should have fallen limp with a lack of blood flow. But the heart isn't really responsible for blood flow, not in the way we think it is anyway. The arteries and veins push the blood along actually thru a complex series of motions. The heart is a damn battery. That was my own revelation, but I've heard it confirmed by people I respect since, multiple times.
    Thanks for sharing all of that Mikey

    I share the same sentiments that you do, the heart has been greatly misunderstood.

    To see the heart physically unfold in that way and to see the tiny heart spirals (the fractal nature of it all!) within the heart was absolutely spectacularly beautiful. My own direct experience has shown me that the electromagnetic field surrounding the body is like a vortex in it's nature. It spirals out from the heart and all the energies expand and contract to the tune of the heart beat. So I guess I would also agree that the heart is a battery


    Here's something I found simultaneously amusing and sweet. It is Gil doing an interpretative heart dance.

    Gil Hedley, The Heart Dance


    I attempted this dance earlier today as a cool down exercise after doing some weights workout. It probably wasn't a very graceful display, not as good as Gil's lol, but it was fun and combined it with meditating through the heart chakra. Felt great! I like this approach. Thanks again Constance.
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    This video I'm finding works really with the earlier one posted re:Heart Dance, as part of full sweep to complement meditation through chakras. With the minor change in doing it before hitting the gym.

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    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    This video is especially meaningful to me.

    For someone who has been struggling with heart issues for so long, it was almost surreal to see the thing so openly...even before he began unwinding it! To have something so close to you cause you so much grief, but to not be able to see it, and then have it right in front of you...well it's like seeing a sports idol on tv for 40 years and then meeting him/her in the flesh finally.

    The heart is so misunderstood. One thing I've discovered, having had all these heart issues, is that the heart really isn't a pump. Sure, it pumps alright, but that's not it's primary purpose. It's actually more like a battery. When your heart begins to weaken, this becomes sort of obvious.

    There were times when I couldnt even feel my heart. It was beating so feebly. And of course I felt awful in all sorts of ways, but I didn't die and I could still perform basic physical functions. And I recall thinking that this shouldn't be possible. How can I mow the lawn for example when I'm too weak to talk? My extremities should have fallen limp with a lack of blood flow. But the heart isn't really responsible for blood flow, not in the way we think it is anyway. The arteries and veins push the blood along actually thru a complex series of motions. The heart is a damn battery. That was my own revelation, but I've heard it confirmed by people I respect since, multiple times.
    I was going to start a new thread headed "The Heart is Not a Pump" but you just said it here, so I'll put the information here and see if anyone notices.

    Thomas Cowan has done several great videos explaining why the heart is not a pump: https://youtu.be/kUCBEKO3IJc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFUomLdn9aQ

    He makes the very obvious point that the heart cannot be a pump because the slowest movement of the blood is at the extremities, where the heart does not pump - the fastest movement is at the heart itself - the whole idea of heart as pump came from Descartes who made up a rule that everything in the body has to be understood in terms of a machine. Of course there's no reason to support that, it is pure materialist/mechanistic ideology.

    What is even more interesting is that this idea originated from Rudolf Steiner, who also created a herbal medicine to help the heart, which he called cardiodoron (means heart healer in Latin I think). And studies show that this medicine does actually help people with heart conditions: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24200823/

    It's all really interesting and I can't believe I only found out about this recently - and how few people are aware of this. We have been thinking about the heart all wrong!

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