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    Default Re: What the future holds for us if we allow the military/Industrial complex to continue developing technology at warp speed.

    I think about the saying that we fight with principalities... LARGE egregores made of thought forms. These thought forms are part of US and we must deeply forgive our interaction with negative thought forms that literally plague us because we cannot own them. This is the job of this time: Forgive, LOVE, be with the infinite intelligence/Intelligent infinity ENERGY. I understand that I am a child and I am loved/beloved. I am in love with all that is needed for a new earth to bloom.

    The wretched thought forms will be transmuted through love to beauty and harmony though US! How awesome.

    This is such a great selection of speaking form Quo. The information is IMO right on about the pilgrim path we traverse through the world of created forms. I LOVE what is said here.


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    HI all
    It's my first day. This is the very first post I have engaged... requesting please be tender to my manner of speech (I'm from California... this is meant to be funny). First, and before I loose the thought, the second video, J Venter is talking about something akin to the medbed tech that William Peterson was speaking about over a decade ago??? However, this J Venter strongly reminds me of a guy I came across at a big Marketing conference in NYC 7 or so years back, then there the man was so into the tech of following the customers actually eye movements on the wall of say a cosmetics products display case. The tech was something within the actual labels of marketing for the company and it would give real time data to the app or the software and the company data on where your eyes rested longest and what you where attracted to by looking at in the first place. I can say this, I do not shop at a Target or Walgreen's ever without thinking about this conversation.
    @Mashika
    To me you are one deep thinker. I want to be as respectful to you as possible, as I can be unfocused and silly in my communication at times, it's how I am. I have really offended people with my thinking /speaking within the history of my life and would not care to continue...point being. Have you any exposure to the manga series Full Metal Alchemist? Premise short in my understanding... two young children who are deeply screwed early in life with magic and history etc. In my feeling what you are speaking to and about: point of, the knowing and actual concept of what we are programed with to respond to a thing... and what is conciseness, in my thinking, intuition the bone- i -fide me. This topic is so important to me and I have been searching that question out myself. If I have understood your thoughts correctly.
    @Constance
    Thank you for sharing this set of films, at this point I've watched the short one. It seems to me in my long 'lurking' here that you are a person who is more into actions within the awareness of what's going down. I guess in general my question is this, what is the action you welcome in response to what is learned from knowing there is a crazy train and it's headed straight for everyone? This is such a tangental stream of info topics along with disclosure, who's planet is it anyway, why does it seem that everything is more and more confusing? To my mind it's a coup to tell us the nanny state is here for keeps
    Agenda 2021 did happen.
    As an aside, just this morning I experienced this kind of strange forced high breed medical tech stuff first hand. At an eye dr.'s place. Crazy, where I live has had some of the most radical draconian restrictions without recourse and it keeps being shocking to my senses. But first this company sent me an email every day with a countdown to the appointment, telling me daily that I must wear a mask. Then this morning on my cel a push notice...wow. Thankfully, I went with my daughter and she reading the entire contract with required signature was, "I refuse to be recored." and they, after checking, yep... couldn't help her if that was her choice. After my iPad medical record device froze up and had to be rebooted while I waited...yeah we split. I am literally just home and working to calm down from the experience. So, I guess in general, that is my response to how to deal with all this that is happening, I walk away and go home. And I am a hard swinging fighter. Sheesh that was long winded.
    Hi Tendril,

    Welcome to the forum!

    To answer your question

    what is the action you welcome in response to what is learned from knowing there is a crazy train and it's headed straight for everyone?

    I'm encouraging those who are ready, willing, able, capable and have the capacity to come together to consciously create an entirely new system that is independent and sovereign.

    We have no time to lose.

    http://www.thewholespectrom.com/blog...ion-starts-now

    http://www.thewholespectrom.com/blog...ut-to-get-real

    http://www.thewholespectrom.com/blog...tever-it-takes

    Brians Bitchute channel
    https://www.bitchute.com/channel/MuS...mGTJRpcshS54XQ
    Hello Constance, good to see you posting again. I like the works of brian. Someone has to make this call of actions. And all "those who are ready, willing, able, capable and have the capacity" should come together and do as Brian said. As it look though there is not enough people out there, otherwise Brians blog will spread like wild fire. So I guess what some of us who are ready should be doing is to make other people ready. There are various ways to do it. One needs only to use imagination. The call (Brians) is up there and is proper but it seems people are immune to it. We might need some trick to get noticed. But carry on with what you are doing, who knows?

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    Default Re: What the future holds for us if we allow the military/Industrial complex to continue developing technology at warp speed.

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    Quote Posted by Constance (here)
    Gregg Braden asks, How much of our power will we give away to the machines?


    Gregg believes that it is a mistake for us to evolve neural technology. He thinks it is a dangerous and unnecessary path for we already have what we need to evolve naturally. Direct experience has shown me this too and I wholeheartedly agree with him.

    Elon Musk is taking the opposite stance. The founder of Neuralink is designing the first neural implant that will let you control a computer or mobile device anywhere you go. Elon Musk has said: “If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em”

    (video length 10:20)

    "IT'S HAPPENING NOW, Whether You Like It Or Not" - WARNING (2021)
    Let's suppose something, that we are, right from out modern beginning, the result of a neural programming experiment that succeeded

    What follows after a functional, high level working computer, which can reproduce itself and can work out bugs, or self-heal, is a computer that finds its current form limiting, and has developed or wants to develop algorithms more advanced than the ones it can handle, so it looks for ways to upgrade the system

    In that case, we are building human 2.0, based on our own specifications, but with upgrades, which is exactly what a computer would do A "systemic computer" has some particular things that makes it different than other computers. It is self-healing, it has redundancy included on its own build, it can restart itself after diagnosys and enough time to recover from a crash. And it could, possibly, rewrite its own logic and code to build a better version, or a new generation that overcomes some limits from the previous one

    From the point of view i have of how humans act and 'react' against everything that happens in the world, we are just machines, with software that is very predictable but through experimentation sometimes brings up cases that don't fit the standards. From there a new 'version' diverts and it all seems like a giant experiment to see if we can reach through A.I. or "Enlightenment" based on that, the newer version sees the previous one as obsolete, and pushes forward to build a new version even faster

    I have found that some people that claim to be in some form of enlightenment, when pushed hard enough, revert to a "nothingness state", where they just don't want to visualize anything about it anymore. Like going back to being a fetus because it's safer than getting hit on the head by someone else. Something which i also see as another instance of programmed behavior, "Reset"
    Hey Mashi, Pretty good imagination. I have some questions though. Do you think computers have intuition and feelings. Because I am pretty sure I have. And if computer don"t then I am not one. I have heard this "man being a computer program" numerous times, And every time I set my imagination to it, My mind instantly stall and crash. And i do think I have a pretty good imagination too. Part of my job is to design and construct customize equipment. I'm a professional inventor. Can you enlighten me please?

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    Default Re: What the future holds for us if we allow the military/Industrial complex to continue developing technology at warp speed.

    Quote Posted by Bubu (here)
    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    Quote Posted by Constance (here)
    Gregg Braden asks, How much of our power will we give away to the machines?


    Gregg believes that it is a mistake for us to evolve neural technology. He thinks it is a dangerous and unnecessary path for we already have what we need to evolve naturally. Direct experience has shown me this too and I wholeheartedly agree with him.

    Elon Musk is taking the opposite stance. The founder of Neuralink is designing the first neural implant that will let you control a computer or mobile device anywhere you go. Elon Musk has said: “If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em”

    (video length 10:20)

    "IT'S HAPPENING NOW, Whether You Like It Or Not" - WARNING (2021)
    Let's suppose something, that we are, right from out modern beginning, the result of a neural programming experiment that succeeded

    What follows after a functional, high level working computer, which can reproduce itself and can work out bugs, or self-heal, is a computer that finds its current form limiting, and has developed or wants to develop algorithms more advanced than the ones it can handle, so it looks for ways to upgrade the system

    In that case, we are building human 2.0, based on our own specifications, but with upgrades, which is exactly what a computer would do A "systemic computer" has some particular things that makes it different than other computers. It is self-healing, it has redundancy included on its own build, it can restart itself after diagnosys and enough time to recover from a crash. And it could, possibly, rewrite its own logic and code to build a better version, or a new generation that overcomes some limits from the previous one

    From the point of view i have of how humans act and 'react' against everything that happens in the world, we are just machines, with software that is very predictable but through experimentation sometimes brings up cases that don't fit the standards. From there a new 'version' diverts and it all seems like a giant experiment to see if we can reach through A.I. or "Enlightenment" based on that, the newer version sees the previous one as obsolete, and pushes forward to build a new version even faster

    I have found that some people that claim to be in some form of enlightenment, when pushed hard enough, revert to a "nothingness state", where they just don't want to visualize anything about it anymore. Like going back to being a fetus because it's safer than getting hit on the head by someone else. Something which i also see as another instance of programmed behavior, "Reset"
    Hey Mashi, Pretty good imagination. I have some questions though. Do you think computers have intuition and feelings. Because I am pretty sure I have. And if computer don"t then I am not one. I have heard this "man being a computer program" numerous times, And every time I set my imagination to it, My mind instantly stall and crash. And i do think I have a pretty good imagination too. Part of my job is to design and construct customize equipment. I'm a professional inventor. Can you enlighten me please?
    If you look at how computer works, and how humans work, computers are always built around the same ideas, or at leas humans try to do that, like the neural network stuff, based on how humans see the brains work

    If, let's say for example, we were modified long ago and enhanced, using some kind of tech living cells, not mechanical objects, then how could we tell? As we are programmed with some behavior and way of "being", we could not really define emotions since all we can see is from our own point of view. And everything we were programmed to believe or feel, it seems natural for us, because that's all we knew and can experience

    See this post about the rat brain neurons in a chip, neurons from a rat have been grown on a chip, but modified so the 'brain' that was grown thinks it is an airplane instead of a rat. It even reacts to artificial wind currents and corrects it's body to keep flying straight, it is so immersed in that reality, that there's no way it can know it's not real, and there is no wind, or plane
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1416650

    Consider this:
    - The artificial brain, is interfacing with another computer at all times, it's grown on in, that's were the 'input data' comes from, and where 'reality' exists
    - The external computer sends signals too the brain, like 'strong wind current from the left just hit you' and then the brain 'feels' the current and adjust flight to work around it

    Does that brain really 'felt' the current? It has no body, it's an illusion, but the brain 'knows' the plane's body got hit with a current and adjusted flight. None of this happened, but the brain doesn't know it. From the point of view of the brain, it felt the wind, and moved its body to continue flying in the direction it's supposed to go. The immersion is complete, there is no other reality, the brain would need to be capable of interfacing in a different way with the external pc in order to discover its reality is a simulation, but it doesn't have that capability

    Q: What if that brain keeps evolving and growing over the lapse of millions of years, then one day starts suspecting reality is an illusion and figures out that the only reason it can't see or escape it is because it lacks the capability of interfacing with the external computer in the correct way, so it starts upgrading itself to add those missing capabilities?

    NOTE: I'm just proposing possible theories, not saying it's how it is

    The "Brain in a Vat" thought experiment is similar and i think explains more what i mean
    https://iep.utm.edu/brainvat/
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    Default Re: What the future holds for us if we allow the military/Industrial complex to continue developing technology at warp speed.

    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    Quote Posted by Bubu (here)
    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    Quote Posted by Constance (here)
    Gregg Braden asks, How much of our power will we give away to the machines?


    Gregg believes that it is a mistake for us to evolve neural technology. He thinks it is a dangerous and unnecessary path for we already have what we need to evolve naturally. Direct experience has shown me this too and I wholeheartedly agree with him.

    Elon Musk is taking the opposite stance. The founder of Neuralink is designing the first neural implant that will let you control a computer or mobile device anywhere you go. Elon Musk has said: “If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em”

    (video length 10:20)

    "IT'S HAPPENING NOW, Whether You Like It Or Not" - WARNING (2021)
    Let's suppose something, that we are, right from out modern beginning, the result of a neural programming experiment that succeeded

    What follows after a functional, high level working computer, which can reproduce itself and can work out bugs, or self-heal, is a computer that finds its current form limiting, and has developed or wants to develop algorithms more advanced than the ones it can handle, so it looks for ways to upgrade the system

    In that case, we are building human 2.0, based on our own specifications, but with upgrades, which is exactly what a computer would do A "systemic computer" has some particular things that makes it different than other computers. It is self-healing, it has redundancy included on its own build, it can restart itself after diagnosys and enough time to recover from a crash. And it could, possibly, rewrite its own logic and code to build a better version, or a new generation that overcomes some limits from the previous one

    From the point of view i have of how humans act and 'react' against everything that happens in the world, we are just machines, with software that is very predictable but through experimentation sometimes brings up cases that don't fit the standards. From there a new 'version' diverts and it all seems like a giant experiment to see if we can reach through A.I. or "Enlightenment" based on that, the newer version sees the previous one as obsolete, and pushes forward to build a new version even faster

    I have found that some people that claim to be in some form of enlightenment, when pushed hard enough, revert to a "nothingness state", where they just don't want to visualize anything about it anymore. Like going back to being a fetus because it's safer than getting hit on the head by someone else. Something which i also see as another instance of programmed behavior, "Reset"
    Hey Mashi, Pretty good imagination. I have some questions though. Do you think computers have intuition and feelings. Because I am pretty sure I have. And if computer don"t then I am not one. I have heard this "man being a computer program" numerous times, And every time I set my imagination to it, My mind instantly stall and crash. And i do think I have a pretty good imagination too. Part of my job is to design and construct customize equipment. I'm a professional inventor. Can you enlighten me please?
    If you look at how computer works, and how humans work, computers are always built around the same ideas, or at leas humans try to do that, like the neural network stuff, based on how humans see the brains work

    If, let's say for example, we were modified long ago and enhanced, using some kind of tech living cells, not mechanical objects, then how could we tell? As we are programmed with some behavior and way of "being", we could not really define emotions since all we can see is from our own point of view. And everything we were programmed to believe or feel, it seems natural for us, because that's all we knew and can experience

    See this post about the rat brain neurons in a chip, neurons from a rat have been grown on a chip, but modified so the 'brain' that was grown thinks it is an airplane instead of a rat. It even reacts to artificial wind currents and corrects it's body to keep flying straight, it is so immersed in that reality, that there's no way it can know it's not real, and there is no wind, or plane
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1416650

    Consider this:
    - The artificial brain, is interfacing with another computer at all times, it's grown on in, that's were the 'input data' comes from, and where 'reality' exists
    - The external computer sends signals too the brain, like 'strong wind current from the left just hit you' and then the brain 'feels' the current and adjust flight to work around it

    Does that brain really 'felt' the current? It has no body, it's an illusion, but the brain 'knows' the plane's body got hit with a current and adjusted flight. None of this happened, but the brain doesn't know it. From the point of view of the brain, it felt the wind, and moved its body to continue flying in the direction it's supposed to go. The immersion is complete, there is no other reality, the brain would need to be capable of interfacing in a different way with the external pc in order to discover its reality is a simulation, but it doesn't have that capability

    Q: What if that brain keeps evolving and growing over the lapse of millions of years, then one day starts suspecting reality is an illusion and figures out that the only reason it can't see or escape it is because it lacks the capability of interfacing with the external computer in the correct way, so it starts upgrading itself to add those missing capabilities?

    NOTE: I'm just proposing possible theories, not saying it's how it is

    The "Brain in a Vat" thought experiment is similar and i think explains more what i mean
    https://iep.utm.edu/brainvat/
    Thanks Mash, all good points and worth consideration. And you are not saying we are computers, but rather modified living beings. And its quite obvious we were/ are programmed. At least most of the human family still are.

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