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    Default Re: (s7e6e asks) is Avalon a CIA platform?

    One could be pointing to something just to deviate interest/suspicion up on self.
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    Default Re: (s7e6e asks) is Avalon a CIA platform?

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by s7e6e (here)
    I watched the entire interview Bill and I stay behind my initial assessment. I've been blessed with extraordinary teachers and have met very intelligent people. Characters like Elon and Jack are just diversions for the weak mind. But that is just my opinion.

    Suspecting your platform to being funded by CIA or some other 3 letter institution probing the public's insight with or without your knowledge, is just a consequence of how I perceive some of your actions. My "sources" are my intuition and common sense, no need for a third person's thoughts on the matter.

    Bringing us together has been a gift to many of us and we are grateful to you Bill Ryan. I meant and will never mean any harm.
    How could Avalon possibly be funded without my knowledge? I pay for all Avalon's costs myself: $4,800 per year, funded entirely from donations with zero monetization (which I abhor, as everyone who knows me understands). No Avalon donation has ever been anonymous in all its history. And I doubt very much if the CIA, if they ever cared to look, would be very impressed with what we all present here — let alone wanting to support it.

    Do explain, maybe drawing on your "intuition and common sense".
    Funny. coincidence once again I was about to ask you on your personal threat that do you believe that three letter agencies are funding this forum via donations. That of course is already clear they are lurking here watching our every move.

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    Quote Posted by s7e6e (here)
    I'm calling Jack Sarfatti a fraud. Jim Breslo actually asks valid intelligent questions trying to navigate through the deluge of bull**** coming off his guest who appears to make stuff up as he goes. But, he's good with names, I give him that.

    Moreover, having Bill Ryan backing up this individual only adds to my suspicions he and this platform are funded by CIA (most probably). As Jordan Maxwell once said, one can talk about everything except what really matters and they’ll even get financed and supported by the people upstairs.

    Although Ryan’s intentions are good (but constrained), it only goes to show you there is no absolute good or absolute evil but an intertwined mix serving an infinite number of agendas. Just like in marriage, disclosure is a compromise.

    I'm still grateful for having been given access to this community though.

    Hey mate. So your view is this forum is most probably funded by the CIA, but you become a member, in Jan 2021 of all times. You seem quite intelligent. It’s confusing. So you’re prepared to enter a CIA nest just for access to this community? How odd.

    What an odd thread. Who cares what this person thinks.

    UPDATE

    Wait, maybe he means he’s suspicious about it being funded by some entity ‘upstairs’, more so now, and it’s most probably the CIA? Still, bloody confusing. I get wanting to connect with others who see through the deception and all but to compromise, at this time, that much...nope, still odd.
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    Default Re: (s7e6e asks) is Avalon a CIA platform?

    I just want to chime in and mention that for many months when I first started using Avalon I was SURE that this place was run by spooks/ CIA and Bill was an agent.

    Eventually I saw an interview that Bill did talking about the alternative news community and how it handled the Exon Valdez oil spill I believe.

    It became CLEAR that Bill was definitely one of the good guys, and NOT in the intelligence community, just intelligent.

    I'm not sure what initially made me believe that perhaps it was all the **** talking about Corey Goode, which by now does indeed make sense.

    Oh well I love this place and do realize that this post will likely only make the guy who thinks this place is a spook fest to believe it even more.

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    Default Re: (s7e6e asks) is Avalon a CIA platform?

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    Er, no, this is not a CIA operation.

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    Default Re: (s7e6e asks) is Avalon a CIA platform?

    The joke is on me:
    • The first sign of a possible suspect "CIA dis-info agent infiltrating" is that they say (claim) exactly that ...to stir up some sht.
    • Same for people claiming (falsely accusing) "controlled opposition" ... meanwhile doing the job of what a "controlled opposition" would say/do >>> all without backing it up with any real evidence whatsoever.

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    Default Re: (s7e6e asks) is Avalon a CIA platform?

    I suspect that real "CIA spooks" know damn well they are part of a total corrupt to the core deceptive system (they have to lie to themselves everyday to keep their jobs) ... and may see us as a bright light in dark times we live in now.

    They are smart & intelligent enough to see we do not claim "to know it all" ... but asking the right questions that anything Mainstream: (Media, Science, Politics & Religions) mostly do not dare to ask/investigate.


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    Default Re: (s7e6e asks) is Avalon a CIA platform?

    Hasn't this subject been brought up in the past? I'd be amazed if it hasn't. Heck, Bill is perfectly capable of working behind the scenes for alphabet soup agencies. He has many decades worth of knowledge and contacts that make him unique. I've always suspected that Avalon and every other place on the web that I might share some personal thoughts could be a giant honeypot (lookin' at you Zuck, and all your friends). A person has to trust others. Choosing wisely is the key. (Go suck a pig, Zuck.)

    Back in my day the FBI, CIA, and others that we never knew the names of were haunting our sacred spaces. I once enrolled in hands-on healing courses with a well known organization. Within those hallowed halls were posters stuck on the walls welcoming federal agents with open arms. Same thing occurred in other places where spirituality and/or altered states were a focus. Those were the days of SRI and the first glimmerings of remote viewing in the public eye. The Monroe Institute was funded by federal dollars even in their early days. As participants and forum members we're much more enlightened today, I think. Or are we?

    I've spent a lot of time pouring over the Avalon forum. I take interest in members and read all of their posts to better understand who they are and where they're coming from. Some don't like the fact that I talk about doing this, like it's an invasion of privacy. One item on my list to look for here is any indication that a nefarious hidden agenda is being perpetrated. Sorry, I haven't found any evidence of that. In fact, there is not a lot of stuff in these threads that would be of any interest to the feds - other than maybe unmasking a few members so that they could be harassed.

    The worst that Bill Ryan could do is to share our personal info to unmask us. But we trust Bill, don't we? Well, I do. You can't live your life without trust. Now, if Bill were located in the US I'd be scared. I live in the US and I'm damned scared. Trouble is, today there aren't too many places on the globe that don't engender fear. My greatest fear is that I might harm others in defense of myself. I haven't been thoroughly tested yet. Given my background you will not find anyone more paranoid than I am. Except for a few souls wandering the streets and in homeless camps. If I trust Bill then that means something.

    My apologies for failing to resist the urge to speak my mind.
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    Default Re: (s7e6e asks) is Avalon a CIA platform?

    Like my previous post says what it says, but let's speculate.

    So.. Just for the sake of argument, what if this were true?

    Does it change anything? No. The content is still there, the discussions still take place and the People are still the same as they were yesterday. Personally if I have to look a certain direction I'd be going for Ron Sr, pilot and all that, probably got recruited while he was doing all that flying into Central America back in the day, lol. No but seriously, even if this ridiculous statement were to be true, it wouldn't change anything for me. I come from a military intelligence background and tbh, all that spook ****e is way to over hyped in the alternative community, yes they do their work, yes there are Spies amongst them, do they care about you? Nah. They couldn't give two tosses about 99% of the peeps on this forum. Are they keeping an eye on Bill? Who knows, MI-6 might, if to accuse Bill, well, MI-6, Bill Bond sort of speak, Bill rubbed shouders with the many in the various settings, are there People who need to be looked at, yes, but..even MI-6 wouldn't care to infiltrate this forum. What do they care about? Certain content, for the content they (NSA, CIA, FSB, MI-6 etc) do not need to bribe Bill, they just come on here, look and take anything they need. If one mbr is a target, they'll come. And believe me, you'll feel it creeping up when you get approached, what to do? Just make 'm believe you're a nutter, they'll go away. If they want to know something about you they'll find out anyway, again they really do not need to bribe Bill.

    Frikkin' nonsense topic.
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    Default Re: (s7e6e asks) is Avalon a CIA platform?

    From my own intuition I would say if the intelligence community wanted to present a 'honey trap' and to control narratives they would employ something more like YouTube/Facebook/LinkedIn-not a modest slightly clunky forum that attracts a minority of people (no offence to the platform) - they would not be bothered. Bill I sense to be a straight up and down maverick man (if you forgive the asymmetry) of a similar type to myself, hence why I like him, we tend to be drawn to people who are similar to ourselves!
    No doubt a few 'operatives' ply their trade here, but they are ubiquitous on the web.

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    Quote Posted by Blastolabs (here)
    I just want to chime in and mention that for many months when I first started using Avalon I was SURE that this place was run by spooks/ CIA and Bill was an agent.

    Eventually I saw an interview that Bill did talking about the alternative news community and how it handled the Exon Valdez oil spill I believe.

    It became CLEAR that Bill was definitely one of the good guys, and NOT in the intelligence community, just intelligent.

    I'm not sure what initially made me believe that perhaps it was all the **** talking about Corey Goode, which by now does indeed make sense.

    Oh well I love this place and do realize that this post will likely only make the guy who thinks this place is a spook fest to believe it even more.

    Head to 2012portal.blogspot.com if you want to see the style of websites made by the sociopaths
    Looking to chime in on this without derailing this thread, but I did indeed visit this blogspot site only to find absolute gems such as "Meditation to Escort Donald Rumsfeld into the Galactic Central Sun" and "Light Forces have managed to completely clear all underground bases of the Chimera breakaway civilization, including the Congo complex".

    Good grief! Extremely thankful for Avalon.
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    Default Re: (s7e6e asks) is Avalon a CIA platform?

    Quote Posted by Siphonemis (here)
    Quote Posted by Blastolabs (here)
    I just want to chime in and mention that for many months when I first started using Avalon I was SURE that this place was run by spooks/ CIA and Bill was an agent.

    Eventually I saw an interview that Bill did talking about the alternative news community and how it handled the Exon Valdez oil spill I believe.

    It became CLEAR that Bill was definitely one of the good guys, and NOT in the intelligence community, just intelligent.

    I'm not sure what initially made me believe that perhaps it was all the **** talking about Corey Goode, which by now does indeed make sense.

    Oh well I love this place and do realize that this post will likely only make the guy who thinks this place is a spook fest to believe it even more.

    Head to 2012portal.blogspot.com if you want to see the style of websites made by the sociopaths
    Looking to chime in on this without derailing this thread, but I did indeed visit this blogspot site only to find absolute gems such as "Meditation to Escort Donald Rumsfeld into the Galactic Central Sun" and "Light Forces have managed to completely clear all underground bases of the Chimera breakaway civilization, including the Congo complex".

    Good grief! Extremely thankful for Avalon.
    Thank you Siphonemis!
    Your references to comedic solutions are perfect!

    Yes, tho it is a rare condition here on Avalon, it is sometimes perfectly healthy to derail a very silly thread. It may even be a case where diversion from a silly narrative is on tap, and thus a brew we can all enjoy.

    We all long ago have known that Bill was not the messiah, nor did he ever show any signs of messianic illness.....and many of us have tested his unending patience, acceptance and thoughtfulness, much to our never ending gratitude.

    My goodness, ee's not even a naughty boy.

    That reminds me, where did I put me day dress and me 3 o'clock shadow concealer?

    Yes, indeed. Me monty, monty python may be a more prescient subject during discussion such as this....
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    Default Re: (s7e6e asks) is Avalon a CIA platform?

    RunningDeer,

    Your the BEST CIA AGENT EVER!

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    Default Re: (s7e6e asks) is Avalon a CIA platform?

    So Avalon is already CIA- funded? Why did I not recieve the memo??? Ive been wasting my time since 2010 infiltrating this place on NSA:s behalf. We need better coordination in this operation. Bill, lets talk this thru on the next monday morning meeting at HQ in Langley.

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    Default Re: (s7e6e asks) is Avalon a CIA platform?

    Im part of an e mail chain that has Jack Sarfatti on it. Im in a bit of a pissing match with Jack regarding covid and the jab which he seems to endorse 100%. And I dont buy either story. That doesnt make Jack a fraud, but he does disappoint me with his march in step attitude.

    and I donate here as well, and all seems legit to me. But if it was a CIA front, well then 100% everything is and so might as well enjoy my time here.

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    Default Re: (s7e6e asks) is Avalon a CIA platform?

    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    ... Are YOU a planted troll with a job to support a narrative? To throw in CIA collusion HERE may insinuate doubt and corrosion? ...
    This is post #37. s7e6e submitted posts #2 and #4. Yes, we are being trolled? Who cares what the motives are. Trying to answer that question just gives more life to the troll.
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    Default Re: (s7e6e asks) is Avalon a CIA platform?

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    ... Are YOU a planted troll with a job to support a narrative? To throw in CIA collusion HERE may insinuate doubt and corrosion? ...
    This is post #37. s7e6e submitted posts #2 and #4. Yes, we are being trolled? Who cares what the motives are. Trying to answer that question just gives more life to the troll.
    I do not think he is a troll ... he is just worried that Bill is compromised without his knowledge ... to me that seems a stretch as Bill is known to manage things very well.


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    Default Re: (s7e6e asks) is Avalon a CIA platform?

    Do you think a CIA/NSA funded Forum would talk about alternative medicine and Natural Cures for the benefit of humanity??? Since When a Government Agency is looking forward to cure us from anything or is acting in our Best Interests?

    Do you think I belong to CIA? yes because I have in the past helped Fund this Forum.

    CIA does not need to come here, they probably have free access to FACEBOOK, INSTAGRAM, YOUTUBE, TWITTER accounts, a backdoor where they can spy as they wish.

    I read in the past, can´t remember where exactly that all this mobile/computer systems were built with security flaws on purpose.

    This is so true that now in Brazil we are having a different kind of crime, thieves are stealing the mobile phone and instead of selling it they are wiping all the money from Bank APPs installed on the mobile phones.

    There are billions of consumer data stolen from Databases of several private companies from all over the world being sold on Dark Web, this is another reason CIA doesn´t need to come here. ANd doesn´t need a Bill Ryan for this purpose.

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    Default Re: (s7e6e asks) is Avalon a CIA platform?

    We have had good few friends along the way who worked for the FBI, CIA and NSA.
    However, the only time they could read or even contribute on forums was in their off duty time.

    It’s easy to predict that some alphabet agents monitor alternative media or get privately engaged but we would never know.

    Consider the costs of running big apparatus ( like the CIA or FBI) in order to protect people from crime. So what would you do ?
    I think, I’d do my best to uncover so called “dark net” which is said to be 90% bigger than the internet we commonly interact with.

    I don’t know what exactly it contains but it’s where people trade weapons, drugs and medicines illegally, sell animals, people, children, whatever else.

    Despite our common ( and uncommon) fears, anxiety, social neurosis and occasional paranoia about Covid 19 this forum is mostly open and transparent.
    It does not take long to navigate through if you are really upto it.


    The agents would take notice if:

    there was a threat or danger of criminal activity going on here.

    I remember I tried to stop Corey Good ( about 2 or 3 months after he was actively engaged here but according to himself, Bill and Kerry he was in touch with them much longer than) when he issued “alert” in red bold letters claiming something like “the Ships are coming now”.

    For objecting the hero Corey both me and Spirit Wolf were booked by moderators, accused of attention seeking, envy, jealousy and whatever toxicity you can invent while “poor dear Corey” was filling the board with lots of nonsense everyday.

    I would have never bothered myself to respond to his nonsense if he did not rise this kind of red alert. Of course, I’m not a FBI agent But even common sense suggests to me if someone does that in public, they are close to being a threat. Sorry CG.

    Consider that in many cases of public “shootings” worldwide the perpetrators, often young and innocent looking teenagers were actively engaged on social media, acting as psychopaths. In teenage groups or radically right or left wing groups certain verbatim and behaviours such as showing off in various masquerades are often tolerated to a degree, with caveat.
    While it’s not acceptable manner with someone like me, there are adults playing their dramas and cos plays without taking things further ( I guess).

    But then someone who think and take it seriously and acts upon radical idea can’t be recognised till it’s too late.
    So hate speech and threats are not tolerable in my opinion, neither are blatant lies about something or somebody.

    I think it’s basically the only case such agents could actively intervene with forums or media, in suspicion of criminal activity.


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    Now, is it the real question of the original poster ?

    I don’t think so, sorry again. Right according to his/her first response in this thread, calling out physicist Jack Saffarati a nut case ( did you really understand anything of what he said ?) there is clear “protest” in the soul against the idea there are intelligent entities out there known to interact with humanity or to put it simply that we are being visited and by that derivation, also most of the “extraordinary physics” sounds like nonsense to that particular reader.

    If it was possible to mediate between the two opposing sides of opinion ( though I’m not sure it is) and on behalf of Jack and most of the rest of us involved with ET research , the topic is not “easy”.
    It sounds easy like everything else we cut to pieces and explain the particular piece in detail .
    But actually, if it was easy ( subject) we wouldn’t be struggling to explain ET Contact till now.

    That’s why I wanted to discuss with involved scientists ( the first place) and not “public forums”. Public science and evening schools have to be always somewhat adjusted and simplified because most human adults are overworked, tired people, not fresh young minds eager to learn

    The worst that happens periodically in evening schools I’ve heard is people starting to argue with the topic/teacher because they are so tired after long day and can’t “get it right” anymore.

    My best advice to the OP would be, if the subject is not your favourite chosen one, just skip it. Let it be..there are plenty of other worthy topics to engage in.

    The same way I don’t engage in political debates of any kind as they seem empty and get on my nerves, so I avoid them from great distance.
    They will likewise continue existing with or without me and their fan clubs. So do other nasty things in this world. But getting seriously upset about it everyday is most harmful to the innocent. Quite like the daily news ..
    or your uncles best opinion on your life ..



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