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    Default Possible Unintended Consequences of the mRNA Vaccines Against COVID-19

    Stephanie Seneff and Greg Nigh have written "the Bible" on what we know about the mRNA covid vaccines:

    Worse Than the Disease? Reviewing Some Possible Unintended Consequences of the mRNA Vaccines Against COVID-19

    Is it the Vax or is it the Variant:

    For example, Seneff and Nigh note:

    Quote that it is not possible to distinguish an ADE manifestation of disease from a true, non-ADE viral infection. In this light it is important to recognize that, when diseases and deaths occur shortly after vaccination with an mRNA vaccine, it can never be definitively determined, even with a full investigation, that the vaccine reaction was not a proximal cause.
    The above is why, in my estimation, Geert Vanden Bossche made the case, as early as March 2021, that introducing vaccines during a pandemic risked causing more virulent variants, in such pronouncements at A COMING COVID CATASTROPHE.

    These two narratives can be associated with disease and death occurring shortly after vaccination:

    1) the viscious vaccine did it, or
    2) variants of the Wily Coyote Virus did it.

    Bossche was laying the groundwork for narrative (2). I am sure the vaccine producers, with whom Bossche has worked for decades, prefer this narrative.

    Stephanie Seneff, in such earlier work as her powerful opposition to glyphosate (RoundUp) is far less likely to sing the tune of Big Ag or Big Pharma.

    Sickness or Death following a vaccination could be caused either by more virulent varients (as the "Delta" variant narrative is pushing now, consistent with Bossche's warnings), or could be caused by the vaccine itself.

    Seneff observes in this new paper that clinical tests cannot distinguish ADE from severe viral infection.

    So we have clinical tests that cannot distinguish between:
    • the original virus
    • the flu virus
    • the delta variant
    • a false positive PCR test, or
    • an adverse reaction to a vaccine.

    What's worse, it seems that our "Health Authorities" cannot honestly distinguish between these harms either, and take advantage of the confusion to push whatever self aggrandizing agendas suit them at the moment, instead.

    My primary concern: the vaccine produces the disease agent, the spike protein.

    Perhaps the key concern I've had with these mRNA vaccines, since the beginning, is described in the above paper thusly:
    Quote The mRNA vaccines ultimately deliver the highly antigenic spike protein to antigen-presenting cells. As such, monoclonal antibodies against the spike protein are the expected outcome of the currently deployed mRNA vaccines. Human spike protein monoclonal antibodies were found to produce high levels of cross-reactive antibodies against endogenous human proteins (Vojdani et. al., 2021; reviewed in more detail below). Given evidence only partially reviewed here, there is sufficient reason to suspect that antibodies to the spike protein will contribute to ADE provoked by prior SARS-CoV-2 infection or vaccination, which may manifest as either acute or chronic autoimmune and inflammatory conditions.
    In short, the vaccines get the body's cells to produce spike proteins, which cause inflammation, disease, and over reaction (ADE) to similar future viral infections.

    However, there are other concerns with the vaccines:

    1) Pathogenic priming: The mRNA designed spike proteins resemble other natural (endogenous) proteins in the body. Hence the antibodies that the body creates to attack such viral spike proteins also attack these other natural proteins in the body. This has "the potential" "to drive many types of autoimmunity simultaneously". to drive many types of autoimmunity simultaneously. “The clinical scenario that emerges is upsetting.” These diseases, such as Celiac Disease, Hashimoto's thyroiditis and multiple sclerosis, typically take years to manifest symptomatically.

    2) Infection via injection rather than naturally by respiratory exposure, forces the body to ramp up its antibody production for that, and similar, proteins. People with healthy immune systems can usually handle a natural respiratory exposure without developing protein specific antibodies. But infection via injection of such corona viruses increases the risk of a subsequent over reactive antibody production, future autoimmune diseases, and serious or deadly major organ failure, upon subsequent exposure to similar viruses.

    3) Blood platelet destruction in the spleen and liver: The spleen and liver are key lymph filters, and receive the highest concentration of the mRNA vaccine in the days following injection, as the body tries to clear the damage. But the spleen and liver are also central to constructing the blood platelets critical to clotting and stopping bleeding. In particular, the spleen is the largest secondary lymphoid organ in humans and it contains as much as 1/3 of the body’s platelet supplies. People are dying of strokes, hemorrhages and other bleeding disorders, with practically zero platelet counts, in the early weeks following vaccination.

    4) Weakened innate immune system: When the body is inflamed, it up regulates the cytokines tumor necrosis factor- α (TNF- α), and down regulates type I interferon. It is the type I interferon that is a key part of the innate immune system and that keeps long term infections of such viruses as shingles at bay. Thus we are seeing reports in the CDC's VAERS database of an increase of shingles following vaccination, and thus we can expect a high risk of cytokine storms with other coronavirus exposures in the future.

    5) Spike protein harms blood vessels: The mRNA produced spike proteins are a direct toxin to our blood vessels, which is especially damaging to blood rich organs such as the heart, lungs, arteries, capillaries, veins, liver, brain, and uterus.

    6) Potential for MADCOW (prion) diseases: Prion diseases are the result of misfolded proteins that cause some critical tissue to malfunction. In addition to MADCOW disease, other neurodegenerative diseases, including Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s disease, and amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS) may be prion diseases. There is a key protein sequence that has been identified with these misfolded proteins, involving two glycine
    residues spaced by three intervening amino acids, represented as GxxxG. The infamous MADCOW prion had ten such GxxxG sequences in a row. Since the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein has five such GxxxG motifs in its sequence, it becomes extremely plausible that this spike protein could behave as a prion and cause such prion diseases. mRNA vaccines induce an ideal situation for prion formation from the spike protein, and its transport via exosomes along the vagus nerve to the brain.

    7) Potential for Permanent Incorporation of Spike Protein Gene into human DNA: Several pages of the above paper cover the potential risks of long term, multi-generational, incorporation of this spike protein into the human genome. The details are complex, and more speculative, as such takes many years, even generations, to fully manifest. the mRNA in SARS-CoV2 vaccines appears to have considerable "potential" for such genetic expression.

    Conclusion:

    We should:
    • Stop the incautious world-wide vaccination.
    • Study in various ways the damage we've done so far.
    • Encourage other safer and more affordable steps to boost our immune systems, such as sunlight, Vitamin D, organic rather than highly processed food, and Vitamins A, C and K2.

    P.S.: The above doesn't even touch on the other dangers of the vaccine, such as the various toxins that might be in it, including graphene and PEG (polyethylene glycol), not to mention the broader scale social, economic, and other harms caused in the name of "stopping the spread."
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    Default Re: Possible Unintended Consequences of the mRNA Vaccines Against COVID-19

    I think this belongs here. 15 mins long. Dr. Robert Malone, the inventor of mRNA tech saying some alarming stuff:

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    Default Re: Possible Unintended Consequences of the mRNA Vaccines Against COVID-19

    This is a very good webinar on heart health which pretty much debunks 2 risk factors with cardiac disease: cholesterol and the complex relationship between salt and hypertension

    from 1:30 they talk about mRna vaccines, how flooding the body with spike proteins causes the ACE2 receptors to be bound up with spike proteins and unable to do their job in maintaining heart and vascular system health . In short as soon as you have a vaccine the aging process is accelerated . The problem is compounded in that any research into Covid is censored and no patients who have died from Covid are having autopsies preventing understanding of what is going on inside the bodies of these people


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    Government ‘Flying Blind’ on Breakthrough Infections, as COVID Infections Among Fully Vaccinated Soar
    8/23/21
    By Jenny Deam & Bianca Fortis
    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/d...0-39686590e40e

    "The CDC’s decision to stop tracking COVID in vaccinated people, unless they are hospitalized or die, means we have no full understanding on how the Delta variant spreads among the nearly 200 million partially or fully vaccinated Americans, or on how many are getting sick.

    Meggan Ingram was fully vaccinated when she tested positive for COVID-19 early this month. The 37-year-old’s fever had spiked to 103 and her breath was coming in ragged bursts when an ambulance rushed her to an emergency room in Pasco, Washington, on Aug. 10. For three hours she was given oxygen and intravenous steroids, but she was ultimately sent home without being admitted.

    Seven people in her house have now tested positive. Five were fully vaccinated and two of the children are too young to get a vaccine

    As the pandemic enters a critical new phase, public health authorities continue to lack data on crucial questions, just as they did when COVID-19 first tore through the U.S. in the spring of 2020.

    Today there remains no full understanding on how the aggressively contagious Delta variant spreads among the nearly 200 million partially or fully vaccinated Americans like Ingram, or on how many are getting sick.

    The nation is flying blind yet again, critics say, because on May 1 of this year — as the new variant found a foothold in the U.S. — the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) mostly stopped tracking COVID-19 in vaccinated people, also known as breakthrough cases, unless the illness was severe enough to cause hospitalization or death.Individual states now set their own criteria for collecting data on breakthrough cases, resulting in a muddled grasp of COVID-19’s impact, leaving experts in the dark as to the true number of infections among the vaccinated, whether or not vaccinated people can develop long-haul illness and the risks to unvaccinated children as they return to school.

    “It’s like saying we don’t count,” said Ingram after learning of the CDC’s policy change. COVID-19 roared through her household, yet it is unlikely any of those cases will show up in federal data because no one died or was admitted to a hospital.

    The CDC told ProPublica in an email that it continues to study breakthrough cases, just in a different way. “This shift will help maximize the quality of the data collected on cases of greatest clinical and public health importance,” the email said.In addition to the hospitalization and death information, the CDC is working with Emerging Infections Program sites in 10 states to study breakthrough cases, including some mild and asymptomatic ones, the agency’s email said.

    Under pressure from some health experts, the CDC announced last week that it will create a new outbreak analysis and forecast center, tapping experts in the private sector and public health to guide it to better predict how diseases spread and to act quickly during an outbreak.

    Tracking only some data and not releasing it sooner or more fully, critics say, leaves a gaping hole in the nation’s understanding of the disease at a time when it most needs information.

    “They are missing a large portion of the infected,” said Dr. Randall Olsen, medical director of molecular diagnostics at Houston Methodist Hospital in Texas. “If you’re limiting yourself to a small subpopulation with only hospitalizations and deaths, you risk a biased viewpoint.”

    Last week, the CDC released a trio of reports that found that while the vaccine remained effective at keeping vaccinated people out of the hospital, the overall protection appears to be waning over time, especially against the Delta variant.

    Among nursing home residents, one of the studies showed vaccine effectiveness dropped from 74.7% in the spring to just 53.1% by midsummer. Similarly, another report found that the overall effectiveness among vaccinated New York adults dropped from 91.7% to just under 80% between May and July.

    The new findings prompted the Biden administration to announce last week that people who got a Moderna or Pfizer vaccine will be offered a booster shot eight months after their second dose. The program is scheduled to begin the week of Sept. 20 but needs approval from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and a CDC advisory committee.

    This latest development is seen by some as another example of shifting public health messaging and backpedaling that has accompanied every phase of the pandemic for 19 months through two administrations. A little more than a month ago, the CDC and the FDA released a joint statement saying that those who have been fully vaccinated “do not need a booster shot at this time.”

    The vaccine rollout late last year came with cautious optimism. No vaccine is 100% effective against transmission, health officials warned, but the three authorized vaccines proved exceedingly effective against the original COVID-19 strain. The CDC reported a breakthrough infection rate of 0.01% for the months between January and the end of April, although it acknowledged it could be an undercount.

    As summer neared, the White House signaled it was time for the vaccinated to celebrate and resume their pre-pandemic lives.

    Trouble, though, was looming. Outbreaks of a new, highly contagious variant swept India in the spring and soon began to appear in other nations. It was only a matter of time before it struck here, too.“The world changed,” said Dr. Eric Topol, director of the Scripps Research Translational Institute, “when Delta invaded.”

    The current crush of U.S. cases — well over 100,000 per day — has hit the unvaccinated by far the hardest, leaving them at greater risk of serious illness or death. The Delta variant is considered at least two or three times more infectious than the original strain of the coronavirus.

    For months much of the focus by health officials and the White House has been on convincing the resistant to get vaccinated, an effort that has so far produced mixed results.

    Yet as spring turned to summer, scattered reports surfaced of clusters of vaccinated people testing positive for the coronavirus. In May, eight vaccinated members of the New York Yankees tested positive. In June, 11 employees of a Las Vegas hospital became infected, eight of whom were fully vaccinated. And then 469 people who visited the Provincetown, Massachusetts, area between July 3 and July 17 became infected even though 74% of them were fully vaccinated, according to the CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

    While the vast majority of those cases were relatively mild, the Massachusetts outbreak contributed to the CDC reversing itself on July 27 and recommending that even vaccinated people wear masks indoors — 11 weeks after it had told them they could jettison the protection.

    And as the new CDC data showed, vaccines continue to effectively shield vaccinated people against the worst outcomes. But those who get the virus are, in fact, often miserably sick and may chafe at the notion that their cases are not being fully counted.

    “The vaccinated are not as protected as they think,” said Topol, “They are still in jeopardy.”

    The CDC tracked all breakthrough cases until the end of April, then abruptly stopped without making a formal announcement. A reference to the policy switch appeared on the agency’s website in May about halfway down the homepage.

    “I was shocked,” said Dr. Leana Wen, a physician and visiting professor of health policy and management at George Washington University. “I have yet to hear a coherent explanation of why they stopped tracking this information.”

    The CDC said in an emailed statement to ProPublica that it decided to focus on the most serious cases because officials believed more targeted data collection would better inform “response research, decisions, and policy.”

    Sen. Edward Markey, D-Mass., became alarmed after the Provincetown outbreak and wrote to CDC director Dr. Rochelle Walensky on July 22, questioning the decision to limit investigation of breakthrough cases. He asked what type of data was being compiled and how it would be shared publicly.

    “The American public must be informed of the continued risk posed by COVID-19 and variants, and public health and medical officials, as well as health care providers, must have robust data and information to guide their decisions on public health measures,” the letter said.

    Markey asked the agency to respond by Aug. 12. So far the senator has received no reply, and the CDC did not answer ProPublica’s question about it.

    When the CDC halted its tracking of all but the most severe cases, local and state health departments were left to make up their own rules.

    There is now little consistency from state to state or even county to county on what information is gathered about breakthrough cases, how often it is publicly shared or if it is shared at all.

    “We’ve had a patchwork of information between states since the beginning of the pandemic,” said Jen Kates, senior vice president and director of global health and HIV policy at Kaiser Family Foundation.

    She is co-author of a July 30 study that found breakthrough cases across the U.S. remained rare, especially those leading to hospitalization or death. However, the study acknowledged that information was limited because state reporting was spotty. Only half the states provide some data on COVID-19 illnesses in vaccinated people.

    “There is no single, public repository for data by state or data on breakthrough infections, since the CDC stopped monitoring them,” the report said.

    In Texas, where COVID-19 cases are skyrocketing, a state Health and Human Services Commission spokesperson told ProPublica in an email the state agency was “collecting COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough cases of heightened public health interest that result in hospitalization or fatality only.”

    Other breakthrough case information is not tracked by the state, so it is unclear how often breakthroughs occur or how widely cases are spreading among the vaccinated. And while Texas reports breakthrough deaths and hospitalizations to the CDC, the information is not included on the state’s public dashboard.

    “We will be making some additions to what we are posting, and these data could be included in the future,” the spokesperson said.

    South Carolina, on the other hand, makes public its breakthrough numbers on hospitalizations and deaths. Milder breakthrough cases may be included in the state’s overall COVID-19 numbers but they are not labeled as such, said Jane Kelly, an epidemiologist at the South Carolina Department of Health and Environmental Control.

    “We agree with the CDC,” she said, “there’s no need to spend public health resources investigating every asymptomatic or mild infection.”

    In Utah, state health officials take a different view. “From the beginning of the pandemic we have been committed to being transparent with our data reporting and … the decision to include breakthrough case data on our website is consistent with that approach,” said Tom Hudachko, director of communications for the Utah Department of Health.

    Some county-level officials said they track as many breakthrough cases as possible even if their state and the CDC does not.

    For instance, in Clark County, Nevada, home of Las Vegas, the public health website reported that as of last week there were 225 hospitalized breakthrough cases but 4,377 vaccinated people overall who have tested positive for the coronavirus.

    That means that less than 5% of reported breakthrough cases resulted in hospitalization. “The Southern Nevada Health District tracks the total number of fully vaccinated individuals who test positive for COVID-19 and it is a method to provide a fuller picture of what is occurring in our community,” said Stephanie Bethel, a spokesperson for the health district in an email.

    Sara Schmidt, a 44-year-old elementary school teacher in Alton, Illinois, is another person who has likely fallen through the data hole.

    “I thought, ‘COVID is over and I’m going to Disney World,’” she said. She planned a five-day trip for the end of July with her parents. Not only had she been fully vaccinated, receiving her second shot in March, she is also sure she had COVID-19 in the summer of 2020. Back then she had all the symptoms but had a hard time getting tested. When she finally did, the result came back negative, but her doctor told her to assume it was inaccurate.

    “My guard was down,” she said. She was less vigilant about wearing a mask in the Florida summer heat, assuming she was protected by the vaccination and her presumed earlier infection.

    On the July 29 plane trip home, she felt mildly sick. Within days she was “absolutely miserable.” Her coughing continued to worsen, and each time she coughed her head pounded. On Aug. 1 she tested positive. Her parents were negative.

    Now, three weeks later, she is far from fully recovered and classes are about to begin at her school. There’s a school mask mandate, but her students are too young to be vaccinated. “I’m worried I will give it to them, or I will get it for a third time,” she said.

    But it is doubtful her case will be tracked because she was never hospitalized. That infuriates her, she said, because it downplays what is happening.

    “Everyone has a right to know how many breakthrough cases there are,” she said, “I was under the impression that if I did get a breakthrough case, it would just be sniffles. They make it sound like everything is under control and it’s not.”

    Originally published by ProPublica: https://www.propublica.org/article/t...as-cases-surge
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    Study: Fully Vaccinated Healthcare Workers Carry 251 Times Viral Load, Pose Threat to Unvaccinated Patients, Co-Workers
    By Peter A. McCullough, M.D., MPH
    8/23/21
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    "A preprint paper by the prestigious Oxford University Clinical Research Group, published Aug. 10 in The Lancet:
    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers....act_id=3897733
    ...found vaccinated individuals carry 251 times the load of COVID-19 viruses in their nostrils compared to the unvaccinated.A new study found vaccinated individuals carry 251 times the load of COVID-19 viruses in their nostrils compared to the unvaccinated.

    A groundbreaking preprint paper by the prestigious Oxford University Clinical Research Group, published Aug. 10 in The Lancet, includes alarming findings devastating to the COVID vaccine rollout.

    The study found vaccinated individuals carry 251 times the load of COVID-19 viruses in their nostrils compared to the unvaccinated.

    While moderating the symptoms of infection, the jab allows vaccinated individuals to carry unusually high viral loads without becoming ill at first, potentially transforming them into presymptomatic superspreaders.

    This phenomenon may be the source of the shocking post-vaccination surges in heavily vaccinated populations globally.

    The paper’s authors, Chau et al, demonstrated widespread vaccine failure and transmission under tightly controlled circumstances in a hospital lockdown in Ho Chi Minh City, Viet Nam.

    The scientists studied healthcare workers who were unable to leave the hospital for two weeks. The data showed that fully vaccinated workers — about two months after injection with the Oxford/AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine (AZD1222) — acquired, carried and presumably transmitted the Delta variant to their vaccinated colleagues.

    They almost certainly also passed the Delta infection to susceptible unvaccinated people, including their patients. Sequencing of strains confirmed the workers transmitted SARS-CoV-2 to one another.

    This is consistent with the observations in the U.S. from Farinholt and colleagues, and congruent with comments by the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention conceding COVID-19 vaccines have failed to stop transmission of SARS-CoV-2.

    On Feb. 11, the World Health Organization indicated the AZD1222 vaccine efficacy of 63.09% against the development of symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection. The conclusions of the Chau paper support the warnings by leading medical experts that the partial, non-sterilizing immunity from the three notoriously “leaky” COVID-19 vaccines allow carriage of 251 times the viral load of SARS-CoV-2 as compared to samples from the pre-vaccination era in 2020.

    Thus, we have a key piece to the puzzle explaining why the Delta outbreak is so formidable — fully vaccinated are participating as COVID-19 patients and acting as powerful Typhoid Mary-style super-spreaders of the infection.

    Vaccinated individuals are blasting out concentrated viral explosions into their communities and fueling new COVID surges. Vaccinated healthcare workers are almost certainly infecting their coworkers and patients, causing horrendous collateral damage.

    Continued vaccination will only make this problem worse, particularly among frontline doctors and nurses workers who are caring for vulnerable patients.

    Health systems should drop vaccine mandates immediately, take stock of COVID-19 recovered workers who are robustly immune to Delta and consider the ramifications of their current vaccinated healthcare workers as potential threats to high risk patients and coworkers."
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    This IS a bio weapon designed for mass destruction. "Possible" and "unintended" do not belong here.

    The agenda is quick depopulation by any method short of executing people, therefore all decisions are made to support this effort. As a consequence of this, chaos is used to fuel this agenda, therefore the healthcare system collapse has been purposely orchestrated. Air traffic is also targeted so that people are stuck and cannot flee. Chemtrails will be full of fungi and all sorts of toxic agents, water will be spiked, food will be poisoned, cellular towers will be amped, segregation tactics will be enforced by blaming the unvaccinated for the chaos. Food shortages and power shortages will be left for last because they will trigger mass riots and civil unrest. All contributing to loss of life.

    The time to act is now! Mass demonstrations while matching the opposition force! We overpower them 1 million to 1.

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    Quote Posted by s7e6e (here)
    This IS a bio weapon designed for mass destruction. "Possible" and "unintended" do not belong here.

    The agenda is quick depopulation by any method short of executing people, .
    Executing people would be a lot quicker and cheaper

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    Executing people would be a lot quicker and cheaper
    It would, but they follow the "Universal Law of Retribution" and the "Revelation of the Method" rules.

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    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    • Encourage other safer and more affordable steps to boost our immune systems, such as sunlight, Vitamin D, organic rather than highly processed food, and Vitamins A, C and K2.
    Oiy!

    EXERCISE!!

    NOT walking for five minutes either. You MUST raise your heart rate; you must raise your respiration. REAL exercise.
    Anything is possible with the proper training.

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    EXERCISE!!

    NOT walking for five minutes either. You MUST raise your heart rate; you must raise your respiration. REAL exercise.
    I haven't exercised in any significant way for over a half a century, unless one counts walking from my computer chair to my refrigerator as "exercise".

    So far as I can tell, that has not harmed my health. The key for me has been a keto diet - very low carbs. Exercise seems to burn off the carbs, and if I don't eat carbs, I don't need to burn them off.

    That's why I didn't list "exercise" as an essential step to boosting ones immune system.

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    This IS a bio weapon designed for mass destruction. "Possible" and "unintended" do not belong here.
    Agreed, sadly.
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    Government ‘Flying Blind’ on Breakthrough Infections, as COVID Infections Among Fully Vaccinated Soar
    I find myself disagreeing with calling the rise in post-vaccination disease evidence of "breakthrough infections."

    Question:
    If one gets sick in the weeks following vaccination, is that because the "Wily Coyote Virus spawned a Variant", or is that because the "Vaccine was a Vicious Toxin"?
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    Some long standing virus experts, such as Geert Vanden Bossche, have blamed the varying virus. I (no such expert) blame the vaccine. Coronavirus vaccines have a long track record of dismal failure.
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    Default Re: Possible Unintended Consequences of the mRNA Vaccines Against COVID-19

    Quote Posted by leavesoftrees (here)
    Quote Posted by s7e6e (here)
    This IS a bio weapon designed for mass destruction. "Possible" and "unintended" do not belong here.

    The agenda is quick depopulation by any method short of executing people, .
    Executing people would be a lot quicker and cheaper
    This ****e's got thinktank all over it.

    They know that eluding people needs something real, just not real enough (in terms of looking a true planet wacker in the eye). Everything smoothly runs into the next, everywhere! They couldn't even fecking get it done this way during a WW.

    Around Jan/Feb of 2020 our PM had a meeting with Soros Jr, why? I found that truly strange at the time. If there is someone on this forum looking into these things, a EU meeting in Brussels at that timeframe, I wonder how many more EU " Leaders" met up with Soros jr. In any case, we just have to sit it out, they are already speaking about the " vaccine" permanently lowering the IQ on several People, a news report which had a very short lifespan, I wonder why.
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    Truth leaks out, Japanese studies published on mainstream biological sciences outlet demonstrating that infectivity from variants is INCREASED by jabs. Heartening. Japan is very conservative re pandemic measures. See lines 260 and beyond for summary. Also Japanese medical assn chairman recommending ivermectin to healthcare workers. How will msm suppress this information?
    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...085v1.full.pdf

    https://www.reddit.com/r/NoNewNormal...ds_live_press/

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