Suspicious Observers: thoughts? concerns?

[Mark]

I've been watching Suspicious Observers for some time now. My background in geography, geology, climatology and meteorology draws me to channels where science is primary and you can go out and look at source documents yourself. This channel always provides that opportunity.

The gist of the channel is that there is a 12,000 year disaster cycle, the sun produces micronova that bombards the earth and ends any civilizations that may exist at the time. They are inclusive of the electric universe theory and have connected volcanoes and earthquakes to energy emitted by the sun, which is alternate to mainstream science, but gaining traction as the evidence continues to amass. They also include the sojourn of our solar system above and below the galactic plane as a potential contributor to the disaster cycle.

I'm curious as to the thoughts of PA, have y'all checked out this site in any depth, do you find any issues with what is presented, do you think that the information is biased or skewed in any direction other than the truth.

They have some very short videos at the top of the page that give you an overview of the disaster cycle, some longer videos about the electric universe and other sundry parts of the overall theory. I do recommend the channel, if only to gain access to the many scientific articles that they share.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=B_zfMyzXqfI

[Wind]

He is legit and I think he has been quite well known here, I have followed him for a decade now. He is right about the climate change.

[mountain_jim]

onawah updates a thread daily with these short videos - I have been watching and have no reason to doubt his analysis of the science reports ongoing.

apparently his research and reports are being attacked, same as Dutchsince.

(It sounds like Ben Davidson (SuspiciousObservers creator) is facing the same kind of censorship and attacks from the mainstream "experts" as Dutchsinse, with a refusal to consider the information he shares, no matter how many proofs he offers. )

most recent page:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...Ice-Ages/page5

[Ratszinger]

Ben knows his stuff and can back most of it up in a very professional and succinct way! I've subscribed to him for years and watched all of those videos. He doesn't profess to do it, but he has also basically proven by his theories that we've been muchly lied to about the true history of the human races and more by the orignal 30 family clan that branched off of Ham, Shem and Japheh when they spread out and repopulated the earth. At first the 'Elite' directly related to the savior of humanity were wise, needed and taught the less educated but over time they realized, or some did anyway, that to hold on to that edge, that knowledge, that money, inbreeding was necessary and so they married this way and the bible backs it up. I believe today that same elite that still inbreeds, like John Kerry, a known blue boy, or blue blood just as Eric Clapton is and more are all interrelated to other cousins very close and intimate like. The fact is they have about killed themselves only producing psychopaths and sociopaths as those intelligent and capable enough to rule. The rest are retards in institues like the Queen's twin sister. This last cataclysm apparently brought the humanity at the time down to just 30 surviving couples which must have survivied and can be found in our gene pool evidence when our speices bottlenecked. We lost a huge amount of gene diversity in the last go round. It stands to reason the end times are about here because the ruling familes that saved us last time are dying in the realist sense of the word. So its quite ironic they are coming to a health hazard end at around the same time as Ben's and Diehold foundation have revealed from much of their literature and video archives.

[Brigantia]

Whilst I'm not an expert in science, I do believe in this cycle of catastrophes; the ancients told us about it too. In the 19th century gradualism came into fashion in geology and displaced catastrophism, and that is decidedly not popular these atheistic days as it's 'biblical'.

From what I observe of nature it's all cyclical; birth, death, rebirth. Plants grow from seed, they die, and then their nutrients break down and nourish their seeds that grow in the future. Water evaporates and is then returned to earth when it rains, and evaporates again. The orbits in space are circular, no matter what "those who shall remain nameless" argue otherwise.

As above, so below.

[ExomatrixTV]

• Cyclical Catastrophes are they sudden? or gradual or both?

I remember some claimed they found vegetation in frozen (extinct) Mammoths in Siberia, meaning it was still in processed to be digested ... thus the conclusion is it must be all of sudden.

• "The Day After Tomorrow"

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HUBDFoMNXzA

Also discussing the scenario of a sudden mass climate change ... Most likely part of Mass Conditioning (Anticipatory Fears Exploited) Agenda!

• IMDb - Torrent

cheers,
John

[Mark]

Thanks Wind and Mountain Jim, I couldn't imagine that PA had nothing to say about Suspicious Observers as the information presented on that channel is so compelling and scientifically rigorous.

Ratzinger, I am not aware of the channel discussing all of those topics but I concur that they are all interrelated and relevant when synthesizing the information and including aspects of cultural evolution and the trigger events that occur that drive civilizations forward. Culture comes from the top, so the psychopathic nature of those elites who have done what they've done over the century and millennia certainly have a large role to play in the world we have inherited.

It can only be a conscious and deliberate tactic to continue to hide the disaster cycle. I agree with Ben that they can't hide it for much longer, especially if we are looking at the next solar cycle as one where major solar events will occur that leave no doubt in any living human's mind that the sun is responsible for some kinds of extreme, cyclical events that have not been heretofore shared with the general public. I would expect that, by that time, the science will be overwhelming and difficult to deny.

When I was a geography graduate student back in the 90s teaching Physical Systems of the Environment and Climatology labs, there was no mention of Catastrophism. There was only Gradualism, it was the dogma and still is, as far as I know. I haven't been in a Geography classroom in over a decade now, but I expect not much has changed, except for the further pushing forward of anthropogenic climate shift as the cause of all of our weather extremes.

Brigantia, the Ancients DID speak about this, all of them LOL it is one of the standards that have been passed down to us in so many forms, stories and images. I'm curious about your comment that the orbits in space are circular. Could you expound on that just a bit, if you will?

Thanks for the linkages and vid John, cheers! I remember that movie, "The Day After Tomorrow", it seemed so extreme and impossible back when it came out. I'll bet it is not so unforeseeable for many, these days. Do you believe that this is a shift that will occur over a long time-frame or do you think that sudden change, like that shown in the movie, is possible? From Suspicious Observers, it seems that things can happen quite quickly indeed once the sun has reached a certain stage of its potential micronova state during this cycle.

[Ratszinger]

Posted by Mark/Rahkyt (here)
Thanks Wind and Mountain Jim, I couldn't imagine that PA had nothing to say about Suspicious Observers as the information presented on that channel is so compelling and scientifically rigorous.

Ratzinger, I am not aware of the channel discussing all of those topics but I concur that they are all interrelated and relevant when synthesizing the information and including aspects of cultural evolution and the trigger events that occur that drive civilizations forward..

Some I have pieced together from the Diehold foundation so not all of it is Ben but just fits and makes so much sense.

[Brigantia]

Posted by Mark/Rahkyt (here)
Brigantia, the Ancients DID speak about this, all of them LOL it is one of the standards that have been passed down to us in so many forms, stories and images. I'm curious about your comment that the orbits in space are circular. Could you expound on that just a bit, if you will?

Well... the moon goes round Earth, Earth and all the other solar system planets go round the sun, the sun goes round the galaxy...

I'm saying circular in a broad sense as I know that a lot of them are elliptical, but it's the sense of them all going round and coming back to the same place to start all over again.

However, there are some people who don't believe that but they don't stick around for long on this forum. Bill takes care of that!

[Bluegreen]

I'm so surprised and glad to learn there is such interest and respect for this series among the forum, and would like to thank the members for clicking TU whilst it was being posted by Star Tsar and myself all this time every day for years.

[Hitchy]

Some things I wanna know is when the thing is predicted to strike! (The global cataclysm)

[Ankle Biter]

I did have some concerns on this topic which I've raised in the thread "Geomagnetic Reversals and Ice Ages" Specifically around the crustal displacement theory which on the surface I am reluctant to accept. Onawah has generously consolidated a lot of source material in this Post which I've not examined in detail yet but am confident will contain useful information to my specific concerns. Saying that, I am not willing to throw baby out with the bath water. Micronovas join a list of potential threats to life on earth and as all things in the cosmos are cyclical in nature.

Posted by Ankle Biter (here)
I like this thread and the content delivered on SuspiciousObservers channel with regards to cyclical catastrophism occurring around every 12,000 years or so. I think there's a few competing ideas with regards to the driving mechanism such as I understand them, with Randall Carlson's impact hypothesis vs Galactic center shockwave (P.LaViolette) and with Ben Davidson's channel the micro nova... which also appears in LaViolette's hypothesis too presented in Earth Under Fire video (I think it might even warrant its own thread but that's not the point I wanted to raise in this post). Therefore I shall get on with it..... lol

One aspect I'm not biting down on is the notion of crustal displacement during pole flip. Some of the videos featured a globe showing Antarctica in an equatorial location and some other land mass where that one used to be.. This raises questions around Ice Cores of 2.7 million years. Clearly surviving several cyclical pole flips and periods of being polar and equatorially located. how is the ice preserved?

The next part is to do with Mantal plumes or hotspots which are assumed to be in a fixed position while crustal plates move over relative to them. The Hawaiian Island chain forming for the last 70 million years suggests that particular plate hasn't moved during pole flips unless.. during flip and then flip back the plate returns over the exact (sort of) same hotspot or the assumption of fixed hotspots needs reworking, or the last explanation is I've missed out something vital even something else I've overlooked. Hence, I'm wondering if a member here more knowledge of the idea knows if these conflicting thoughts are reconciled or addressed?

[Bubu]

If this is true its going to be way beyond human capacity to avert. Can anyone please tell me why we should concern ourselves with this? I really don't see any reason to bother with this thing. But I am open to all perspective maybe I am missing something. Everything is a cycle of birth death... humans civilizations planets stars; inhale exhale ...everything come and go.
Is this something that will make our lives a bit easier or we're having a pastime? I have nothing against anything. I just wanna know what is this all about.

[Bubu]

I've watch couple of videos. It's fascinating and I tend to agree with the theories.
I normally dont watch this kinds but because I am appalled by what ignorance can cost during this pandemic, I decided not to ignore this. But still I don't see any benefit other than fascination. Anyone can please help me see what i am not seeing?

[Brigantia]

Posted by Hitchy (here)
Some things I wanna know is when the thing is predicted to strike! (The global cataclysm)

Really? I'd rather not know.

If it kills me, I'll return to the Source. If not, I'll deal with survival as best I can.

Seeing as major catastrophes of this sort have been predicted for 1999, 2000 and 2012 and have not come to pass, it may not even happen in our lifetimes.

I remember all the talk among fundamentalists about knowing the date of The Rapture that was supposed to have happened by now. An enterprising guy set up a business about looking after their pets once they had been zapped to heaven. It was payment up front for a specified Rapture date, but no refund if it didn't happen.

[Savannah]

I have posted his vids here also

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...olitical-Reset

[gord]

Posted by Bubu (here)
If this is true its going to be way beyond human capacity to avert. Can anyone please tell me why we should concern ourselves with this? I really don't see any reason to bother with this thing. But I am open to all perspective maybe I am missing something. Everything is a cycle of birth death... humans civilizations planets stars; inhale exhale ...everything come and go.
Is this something that will make our lives a bit easier or we're having a pastime? I have nothing against anything. I just wanna know what is this all about.

Withholding knowledge of natural cycles and their effects can be used as a weapon against everyone else by exacerbating or mitigating their effects or by entirely misrepresenting the causes of observed effects. There seem to be numerous natural cycles converging about now.

[Ratszinger]

It boils down to the math really based on the dates they believe the last cataclysm cycle happened. At least one person believes the sun will be the tell and during an eclipse the masses will all know something is very wrong because the sun will be much larger than the moon. Of course by coincidence Bill Gates and other elite just so happen to have a plan to 'Dim the Sun' so this cannot happen. We also know Bill bought up farm land, and we know for a fact there are DNA and seed banks, vaults really in place and trillions missing believed to be utilized for underground bunkers. It stands to reason the elite know what is leaking out already, that the sun regularly goes nova on a near clockwork cycle, that it will occur again and is expected in or around OCT of 2046. When this occurs based on the data presented, again not just data from Ben but Diehold foundation as well, the sun will expand to the size of the Kuiper belt which is what created that belt in the first place.

Going along with this theory the sun has birthed all the planets during it's regular nova cycle as it spits out huge amounts of matter which become a new planet and moons. As this occurs the planets already birthed get shoved out a little further away from the sun each time. The theory proposes mars had life it just as earth did only the life only lasted until that planet was shoved out of the position we occupy now and it began losing it's atmosphere, at which time some survivors moved here and hybridized with the existing being here according to some. There is coincidentally a plan or talks of a plan to move to Venus when it moves into the position we are in now and earth gets shoved out and begins to lose atmosphere as Mars did before us. Anyway, that is it in a nutshell. In time we will have to move to Venus when it become habitable after becoming the third planet in the system and earth moves into the fourth. So our sun is only as old as the number of cycles needed to birth what? Nine planets? Maybe 10 if we don't know about all of them?

[Bubu]

Posted by gord (here)

Posted by Bubu (here)
If this is true its going to be way beyond human capacity to avert. Can anyone please tell me why we should concern ourselves with this? I really don't see any reason to bother with this thing. But I am open to all perspective maybe I am missing something. Everything is a cycle of birth death... humans civilizations planets stars; inhale exhale ...everything come and go.
Is this something that will make our lives a bit easier or we're having a pastime? I have nothing against anything. I just wanna know what is this all about.

Withholding knowledge of natural cycles and their effects can be used as a weapon against everyone else by exacerbating or mitigating their effects or by entirely misrepresenting the causes of observed effects. There seem to be numerous natural cycles converging about now.

Thanks Gord, I hope its not as big as it is projected otherwise no amount of preparation can save anyone.

[Bubu]

In the absence of history we have little chance of knowing what is to come. So I will play with probabilities.

Of all the people on earth, the elite group has the best chance of knowing what is to come because they have technology and most probably history. The fact that they are killing people means they don't expect anything to kill people in the near future. This topic is covered in the "questions" thread.