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    Sheeple1: "Hm, so it is only approved now? Why did I take it then?"
    Sheeple2: "Nah. Nevermind. Just do what the authorities tell you. They know what's best. (proud) I'll get my third shot in a week from now."
    Sheeple1: "Yeah, haha, you're right. (smirks) Too much thinking about stuff like this makes my brain hurt anyway."
    Sheeple2: "I am so proud of my collection now. What good is a vax passport if you don't fill it in, hehe?"
    Sheeple2: "Yeah, haha, right. I want my third shot, too. So cool."

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    Default Re: FDA seems to approve Pfizer Covid shot (but perhaps it hasn't)

    The people in my area have created a facebook page for the area, and the first thing they said was... "See LOOK! Now it is approved, so now no one has any reason NOT to get the shot".

    UGH...

    The thought process of these people scares me honestly. Not for myself but for the future of the world, and those that are willingly being guinea pigs for this rollout. The neurological damage, the jerking, the brain bleeds, blood clots, and the deaths are an indicator to me that this is NOT the answer...

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    Default Re: FDA seems to approve Pfizer Covid shot (but perhaps it hasn't)

    Quote Posted by Denise/Dizi (here)
    The people in my area have created a facebook page for the area, and the first thing they said was... "See LOOK! Now it is approved, so now no one has any reason NOT to get the shot".

    UGH...

    The thought process of these people scares me honestly. Not for myself but for the future of the world, and those that are willingly being guinea pigs for this rollout. The neurological damage, the jerking, the brain bleeds, blood clots, and the deaths are an indicator to me that this is NOT the answer...

    If the predictions / prognosis made by various doctors and specialists in their field for those who have taken the jab - ie early death (maybe 2 -5 years..? ) and / or infertility... is correct....

    That means that the Unvaccinated will inherit the world - -

    'They' are giving it everything they've got to push people into getting jabbed because that is the logical conclusion - - but they must have factored this in to their diabolical plans which is where it could get dangerous for the 'vaccine hesitant'...... but how can they get rid of the unvaccinated ...... perhaps they can't.....

    In the war on the people by the power mad elite...the war leading, they hope, to depopulation, transhumanism and TOTAL control and total surveillance - 'Vaccination' could be the decisive battle- the turning point - hence the obsession with it and the relentless pushing and coercion...

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    Default Re: FDA seems to approve Pfizer Covid shot (but perhaps it hasn't)

    Quote Posted by Open Minded Dude (here)
    Sheeple1: "Hm, so it is only approved now? Why did I take it then?"
    Sheeple2: "Nah. Nevermind. Just do what the authorities tell you. They know what's best. (proud) I'll get my third shot in a week from now."
    Sheeple1: "Yeah, haha, you're right. (smirks) Too much thinking about stuff like this makes my brain hurt anyway."
    Sheeple2: "I am so proud of my collection now. What good is a vax passport if you don't fill it in, hehe?"
    Sheeple2: "Yeah, haha, right. I want my third shot, too. So cool."
    lol - yes - And little stickers or gold stars could even be added to the passport bi-annually!
    What FUN to collect all the stickers and maybe even get an award?
    "We're all bozos on this bus"

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    Default Re: FDA seems to approve Pfizer Covid shot (but perhaps it hasn't)

    Quote Posted by Sue (Ayt) (here)
    Biden just gave a live speech about it:

    (starts at approx. 57:00)
    Listen and Weep

    **edit to add that I am enjoying watching the down-votes tally up.

    I signed in just to give it a dislike ....

    The tally is now 205 likes 1.6 k dislikes... (I expect youtube will cap the dislikes somehow)

    anyway....

    "What did you think about Biden's speech Flash..?"




    Flash the baby sloth yawning



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    Default Re: FDA seems to approve Pfizer Covid shot (but perhaps it hasn't)

    Article by the BMJ, cut and pasted in full. The article is better viewed via the BMJ link though imo; it will be updated if corrected, and there are hyperlinks I haven't copied

    https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/08/23...id-19-vaccine/

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    Does the FDA think these data justify the first full approval of a covid-19 vaccine?
    August 23, 2021

    The FDA should demand adequate, controlled studies with long term follow up, and make data publicly available, before granting full approval to covid-19 vaccines, says Peter Doshi

    On 28 July 2021, Pfizer and BioNTech posted updated results for their ongoing phase 3 covid-19 vaccine trial. The preprint came almost a year to the day after the historical trial commenced, and nearly four months since the companies announced vaccine efficacy estimates “up to six months.”

    But you won’t find 10 month follow-up data here. While the preprint is new, the results it contains aren’t particularly up to date. In fact, the paper is based on the same data cut-off date (13 March 2021) as the 1 April press release, and its topline efficacy result is identical: 91.3% (95% CI 89.0 to 93.2) vaccine efficacy against symptomatic covid-19 through “up to six months of follow-up.”

    The 20 page preprint matters because it represents the most detailed public account of the pivotal trial data Pfizer submitted in pursuit of the world’s first “full approval” of a coronavirus vaccine from the Food and Drug Administration. It deserves careful scrutiny.

    The elephant named “waning immunity”

    Since late last year, we’ve heard that Pfizer and Moderna’s vaccines are “95% effective” with even greater efficacy against severe disease (“100% effective,” Moderna said).

    Whatever one thinks about the “95% effective” claims (my thoughts are here), even the most enthusiastic commentators have acknowledged that measuring vaccine efficacy two months after dosing says little about just how long vaccine-induced immunity will last. “We’re going to be looking very intently at the durability of protection,” Pfizer senior vice president William Gruber, an author on the recent preprint, told the FDA’s advisory committee last December.

    The concern, of course, was decreased efficacy over time. “Waning immunity” is a known problem for influenza vaccines, with some studies showing near zero effectiveness after just three months, meaning a vaccine taken early may ultimately provide no protection by the time “flu season” arrives some months later. If vaccine efficacy wanes over time, the crucial question becomes what level of effectiveness will the vaccine provide when a person is actually exposed to the virus? Unlike covid vaccines, influenza vaccine performance has always been judged over a full season, not a couple months.

    And so the recent reports from Israel’s Ministry of Health caught my eye. In early July, they reported that efficacy against infection and symptomatic disease “fell to 64%.” By late July it had fallen to 39% where Delta is the dominant strain. This is very low. For context, the FDA’s expectation is of “at least 50%” efficacy for any approvable vaccine.

    Now Israel, which almost exclusively used Pfizer vaccine, has begun administering a third “booster” dose to all adults over 40. And starting 20 September 2021, the US plans to follow suit for all “fully vaccinated” adults eight months past their second dose.

    Delta may not be responsible

    Enter Pfizer’s preprint. As an RCT reporting “up to six months of follow-up,” it is notable that evidence of waning immunity was already visible in the data by the 13 March 2021 data cut-off.

    “From its peak post-dose 2,” the study authors write, “observed VE [vaccine efficacy] declined.” From 96% to 90% (from two months to <4 months), then to 84% (95% CI 75 to 90) “from four months to the data cut-off,” which, by my calculation (see footnote at the end of the piece), was about one month later.

    But although this additional information was available to Pfizer in April, it was not published until the end of July.

    And it’s hard to imagine how the Delta variant could play a real role here, for 77% of trial participants were from the United States, where Delta was not established until months after data cut-off.

    Waning efficacy has the potential to be far more than a minor inconvenience; it can dramatically change the risk-benefit calculus. And whatever its cause—intrinsic properties of the vaccine, the circulation of new variants, some combination of the two, or something else—the bottom line is that vaccines need to be effective.

    Until new clinical trials demonstrate that boosters increase efficacy above 50%, without increasing serious adverse events, it is unclear whether the 2-dose series would even meet the FDA’s approval standard at six or nine months.

    The “six month” preprint based on the 7% of trial participants who remained blinded at six months

    The final efficacy timepoint reported in Pfizer’s preprint is “from four months to the data cut-off.” The confidence interval here is wider than earlier time points because only half of trial participants (53%) made it to the four month mark, and mean follow-up is around 4.4 months (see footnote).

    This all happened because starting last December, Pfizer allowed all trial participants to be formally unblinded, and placebo recipients to get vaccinated. By 13 March 2021 (data cut-off), 93% of trial participants (41,128 of 44,060; Fig 1) were unblinded, officially entering “open-label followup.” (Ditto for Moderna: by mid April, 98% of placebo recipients had been vaccinated.)

    Despite the reference to “six month safety and efficacy” in the preprint’s title, the paper only reports on vaccine efficacy “up to six months,” but not from six months. This is not semantics, as it turns out only 7% of trial participants actually reached six months of blinded follow-up (“8% of BNT162b2 recipients and 6% of placebo recipients had ≥6 months follow-up post-dose 2.”) So despite this preprint appearing a year after the trial began, it provides no data on vaccine efficacy past six months, which is the period Israel says vaccine efficacy has dropped to 39%.

    It is hard to imagine that the <10% of trial participants who remained blinded at six months (which presumably further dwindled after 13 March 2021) could constitute a reliable or valid sample to produce further findings. And the preprint does not report any demographic comparisons to justify future analyses.

    Severe disease

    With the US awash in news about rising cases of the Delta variant, including among the “fully vaccinated,” the vaccine’s efficacy profile is in question. But some medical commentators are delivering an upbeat message. Former FDA commissioner Scott Gottlieb, who is on Pfizer’s board, said: “Remember, the original premise behind these vaccines were [sic] that they would substantially reduce the risk of death and severe disease and hospitalization. And that was the data that came out of the initial clinical trials.”

    Yet, the trials were not designed to study severe disease. In the data that supported Pfizer’s EUA, the company itself characterized the “severe covid-19” endpoint results as “preliminary evidence.” Hospital admission numbers were not reported, and zero covid-19 deaths occurred.

    In the preprint, high efficacy against “severe covid-19” is reported based on all follow-up time (one event in the vaccinated group vs 30 in placebo), but the number of hospital admissions is not reported so we don’t know which, if any, of these patients were ill enough to require hospital treatment. (In Moderna’s trial, data last year showed that 21 of 30 “severe covid-19” cases were not admitted to hospital; Table S14).

    And on preventing death from covid-19, there are too few data to draw conclusions—a total of three covid-19 related deaths (one on vaccine, two on placebo). There were 29 total deaths during blinded follow-up (15 in the vaccine arm; 14 in placebo).

    The crucial question, however, is whether the waning efficacy seen in the primary endpoint data also applies to the vaccine’s efficacy against severe disease. Unfortunately, Pfizer’s new preprint does not report the results in a way that allows for evaluating this question.

    Approval imminent without data transparency, or even an advisory committee meeting?

    Last December, with limited data, the FDA granted Pfizer’s vaccine an EUA, enabling access to all Americans who wanted one. It sent a clear message that the FDA could both address the enormous demand for vaccines without compromising on the science. A “full approval” could remain a high bar.

    But here we are, with FDA reportedly on the verge of granting a marketing license 13 months into the still ongoing, two year pivotal trial, with no reported data past 13 March 2021, unclear efficacy after six months due to unblinding, evidence of waning protection irrespective of the Delta variant, and limited reporting of safety data. (The preprint reports “decreased appetite, lethargy, asthenia, malaise, night sweats, and hyperhidrosis were new adverse events attributable to BNT162b2 not previously identified in earlier reports,” but provides no data tables showing the frequency of these, or other, adverse events.)

    It’s not helping matters that FDA now says it won’t convene its advisory committee to discuss the data ahead of approving Pfizer’s vaccine. (Last August, to address vaccine hesitancy, the agency had “committed to use an advisory committee composed of independent experts to ensure deliberations about authorization or licensure are transparent for the public.”)

    Prior to the preprint, my view, along with a group of around 30 clinicians, scientists, and patient advocates, was that there were simply too many open questions about all covid-19 vaccines to support approving any this year. The preprint has, unfortunately, addressed very few of those open questions, and has raised some new ones.

    I reiterate our call: “slow down and get the science right—there is no legitimate reason to hurry to grant a license to a coronavirus vaccine.”

    FDA should be demanding that the companies complete the two year follow-up, as originally planned (even without a placebo group, much can still be learned about safety). They should demand adequate, controlled studies using patient outcomes in the now substantial population of people who have recovered from covid. And regulators should bolster public trust by helping ensure that everyone can access the underlying data.

    Peter Doshi, senior editor, The BMJ.
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    This has commentary about the covid passport implications. The covid vaccine passport will be a financial instrument.

    Mandate Madness: FDA Approval Of Pfizer Emboldens Needle Nazis
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    Default Re: FDA seems to approve Pfizer Covid shot (but perhaps it hasn't)

    OK, if we have FAITH that because we are connected to a Power Greater than Ourselves that is omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent, we can TRUST that when we act in a way that supports the Creation and its LOVE of Life, we will be SUPPORTED.

    It is time to boycott, to leave jobs, to literally walk out in Faith. This is not about "church" but the esential relationship that we choose to that POWER. Paradoxically, our FAITH and walking out will challenge the system's plans. Overcome your reluctance to CHOOSE to love yourself and your children.


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    Default Re: FDA seems to approve Pfizer Covid shot (but perhaps it hasn't)

    After listen to Darth Videns propaganda message, Im truly concerned that very soon people that are not vaxed will not be allowed access to food & other necessities, myself included. Also that people in the military will be forced to jab and people are being threatened that they will loose their jobs. Would it surprise anyone to find out that Biden Admin asked the FDA to expedite the Covid vax approval? Now look at how Biden is using the approval to instill fear and to shame the unvaxed

    Quote Let me say this loud and clear: If you are one of the millions of Americans who have said that you will get the shot when it had full FDA approval — that has now happened. The moment you have been waiting for is here — and the time to get vaccinated is today. —

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    Gymstrodamus or Brostrodamus. Turns out he's called Chris Sky. I doubt he's using the occult like I understand Nostradamus did(?) but with his prediction last year coming true (so far) he knows his stuff. I guess it gives him a different set of assumptions and can reason forward with it.

    Anyway, this isn't just one of his predictions, it's also some pertinent information about how corruption may have happened at the FDA.

    Tweet summary

    - This is only from Chris Sky!

    - They're going to push mandatory vaccinations because FDA approval is "proof it's safe and effective"

    "Well guess how they did it?:
    They got Janet Woodcock, chief of the centre of drug evaluation research, and they put her as the acting head of the FDA to give her the approval status, and this woman is personally responsible for approving both
    - OxyContin
    - Fentanyl
    The two most dangerous drugs on the market today, that got approved by [Janet Woodcock] who's now going to be approving our covid vaccines so they can push everyone with mandates"

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    FDA Commits Massive Criminal Fraud By Giving Full Approval to Injurious Covid Vaccines PRIOR TO COMPLETING the Required and Statutory Authorization Process—WHY?!

    To Thwart the Coming Avalanche of
    Valid Lawsuits Being Filed Against Governments, Corporations, Colleges
    & Universities, NGOs and Other
    Organizations Across the USA That Unlawfully Required Proof of Covid Vaccinations to Enter — When They
    Were Authorized for Emergency Use
    Only — THAT’S WHY!

    This Patently Illegitimate FDA Approval Also
    Provides a False Justification to Make These
    Sometimes Fatal Vaccines Mandatory.

    What else can be said but that every major governmental organ of the U.S. Public Health apparatus has conspired to aggressively promote and/or mandate the administration of extremely harmful, and often lethal, Covid injections to the American people.

    None dare call it a meticulously planned and highly organized GENOCIDE via vaccine-delivered bioweaponry; nevertheless, that’s exactly what it is.

    State of the Nation
    August 23, 2021

    Recommended Reading

    UNPRECEDENTED! FDA Illicitly Subverts Own Vax Approval Process

    https://stateofthenation.co/?p=80086

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    Default Re: FDA seems to approve Pfizer Covid shot (but perhaps it hasn't)

    OMG



    The beauty of "healthy normal" will be shunned. Common sense will be lunacy, cruelty will be kindness!

    I thought THIS movie was fiction? NOT.


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    Default Re: FDA seems to approve Pfizer Covid shot (but perhaps it hasn't)

    Dr. Gina Loudon "This is not really an FDA approved drug"

    Gina states, Article by Richard Harris NPR FEB 19 "They lost the Covid Control group by Phizer." They never finished the Covid study because there was no longer a control group but FDA approved the jab anyway.

    Quote Doctors Being Punished For Prescribing Effective Therapeutics For Covid
    https://rumble.com/vlkroy-doctors-be...for-covid.html


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    Is there something wrong with these supposed complete list of ingredients?... Where is the graphene? Where is the Luciferase? Where is the partial aborted fetal products? Am I wrong about this?

    Quote Many people are curious to know what the ingredients are for the three currently available COVID-19 vaccines in the US.
    Here is a breakdown of the three COVID vaccines and their ingredients:

    Pfizer Vaccine: The full list of ingredients for the Pfizer vaccine is:
    mRNA, lipids ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate), 2
    [(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide, 1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-
    phosphocholine, and cholesterol), potassium chloride, monobasic potassium
    phosphate, sodium chloride, dibasic sodium phosphate dihydrate, and sucrose.
    The Pfizer vaccine does not contain eggs, preservatives, or latex.
    Moderna Vaccine: The full list of ingredients for the Moderna vaccine is:
    Messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA), lipids (SM-102, polyethylene glycol [PEG] 2000
    dimyristoyl glycerol [DMG], cholesterol, and 1,2-distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine [DSPC]),
    tromethamine,tromethamine hydrochloride, acetic acid, sodium acetate trihydrate, and sucrose.
    The Moderna vaccine does not contain eggs, preservatives, or latex.
    Johnson & Johnson Vaccine: The full list of ingredients for the Johnson & Johnson vaccine is:
    Recombinant, replication-incompetent adenovirus type 26 expressing the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein,
    citric acid monohydrate, trisodium citrate dihydrate, ethanol, 2 hydroxypropyl-β-cyclodextrin (HBCD),
    polysorbate-80, sodium chloride.
    The Johnson & Johnson vaccine does not contain eggs, preservatives, or latex.
    More Information can be found on the CDC website.
    https://portal.ct.gov/Coronavirus/Co...ne-Ingredients

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    FDA Approval ILLEGAL! Doctor Reveals Pfizer Insert Proves Criminal Regulation Violations!

    BIG NEWS!!! According to the Doctor 50 percent of the people that took a vaccine received a PLACEBO!!!!
    Hi Bill, Some info about ingredients but still criminal because of adverse reactions & warnings not listed according to Doctor Jane Ruby. Of all the deep digging I did today to help in getting a better understanding this video is a must watch. Please share far & wide.

    Quote The package insert reveals "criminal action", according to Dr. Jane Ruby, who joins Stew Peters to discuss the unprecedented action taken by the FDA.
    https://rumble.com/vll4b9-fda-approv...regulatio.html


    Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/viyy5z
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    FDA Grants Full Approval of Pfizer Vaccine, Critics Blast Agency for Lack of Data, Scientific Debate
    8/23/21
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    "Critics said it was concerning that full approval was based on only six months’ worth of data — despite clinical trials designed for two years — and that there was no public discussion of the data.
    The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) today granted full approval to the Pfizer/BioNTech COVID vaccine for people 16 years and older — without allowing public discussion or holding a formal advisory committee meeting to discuss data.

    This is the first COVID vaccine approved by the FDA, and is expected to open the door to more vaccine mandates by employers and universities.

    “For businesses and universities that have been thinking about putting vaccine requirements in place in order to create safer spaces for people to work and learn, I think this move from the FDA, when it comes, will actually help them to move forward with those kinds of plans,” U.S. Surgeon General Dr. Vivek Murthy on Sunday told CNN’s Brianna Keilar.

    “The FDA’s approval of this vaccine is a milestone as we continue to battle the COVID-19 pandemic,” said Dr. Janet Woodcock, acting FDA commissioner in a press release issued Monday.

    “While this and other vaccines have met the FDA’s rigorous, scientific standards for emergency use authorization, as the first FDA-approved COVID-19 vaccine, the public can be very confident this vaccine meets the high standards for safety, effectiveness and manufacturing quality the FDA requires of an approved product.”

    Woodcock said she believes FDA approval will instill additional confidence in people to get vaccinated.The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) today granted full approval to the Pfizer/BioNTech COVID vaccine for people 16 years and older — without allowing public discussion or holding a formal advisory committee meeting to discuss data.

    This is the first COVID vaccine approved by the FDA, and is expected to open the door to more vaccine mandates by employers and universities.

    “For businesses and universities that have been thinking about putting vaccine requirements in place in order to create safer spaces for people to work and learn, I think this move from the FDA, when it comes, will actually help them to move forward with those kinds of plans,” U.S. Surgeon General Dr. Vivek Murthy on Sunday told CNN’s Brianna Keilar.

    “The FDA’s approval of this vaccine is a milestone as we continue to battle the COVID-19 pandemic,” said Dr. Janet Woodcock, acting FDA commissioner in a press release issued Monday.

    “While this and other vaccines have met the FDA’s rigorous, scientific standards for emergency use authorization, as the first FDA-approved COVID-19 vaccine, the public can be very confident this vaccine meets the high standards for safety, effectiveness and manufacturing quality the FDA requires of an approved product.”

    Woodcock said she believes FDA approval will instill additional confidence in people to get vaccinated.Critics accuse FDA of ‘unprecedented, naked power grab’

    According to an article published Aug. 20 in the BMJ, transparency advocates have criticized the FDA decision not to hold a formal advisory committee meeting to discuss Pfizer’s application for full approval — an important mechanism used to scrutinize data.

    Last year the FDA said it was “committed to use an advisory committee composed of independent experts to ensure deliberations about authorisation or licensure are transparent for the public.”

    But in a statement to The BMJ, the FDA said it did not believe a meeting was necessary ahead of the expected full FDA approval.

    An FDA spokesperson said the agency held numerous meetings of its Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee (VRBPAC) related to COVID vaccines in 2020, and did not believe a meeting was needed related to this biologics license application for Pfizer.

    According to the BMJ, companies typically apply for full approval after a longer period has elapsed so that more data are available for review.

    Kim Witczak, a drug safety advocate who serves as a consumer representative on the FDA’s Psychopharmacologic Drugs Advisory Committee, said the decision removed an important mechanism for scrutinizing the data.

    “These public meetings are imperative in building trust and confidence especially when the vaccines came to market at lightning speed under emergency use authorization,” said Witczak. Wticzak was one of 27 experts who launched a citizen’s petition demanding the FDA “slow down and get the science right” before approving COVID vaccines.

    “The public deserves a transparent process, especially as the call for boosters and mandates are rapidly increasing,” Wticzak said. “These meetings offer a platform where questions can be raised, problems tackled and data scrutinised in advance of an approval.”

    Witczak said it’s concerning that full approval is based on only six months’ worth of data — despite clinical trials designed for two years — and there’s no control group after Pfizer offered the product to placebo participants before the trials were completed.

    “They know they can’t win this argument on the science and that’s why they had to abolish the public process and independent oversight,” said Children’s Health Defense Chairman Robert F. Kennedy Jr. “They believe themselves so powerful now that they are stripping off all pretenses that this is about public health, and are baldly revealing the corruption.”

    Kennedy told The Defender:

    “This is a sinister scheme for mandating a badly flawed vaccine that has already made history with record deaths and injuries, that neither prevents disease nor transmission, and does not improve mortality. Pfizer’s most recent six-month data show that while the jab prevents some COVID deaths, it causes more heart attacks yielding a net loss of life.”

    Diana Zuckerman, president of the National Center for Health Research, told The BMJ it’s obvious the FDA has no intention of hearing anyone else’s opinion, and says making decisions behind closed doors can feed vaccine hesitancy.

    “It’s important to have a public discussion about what kind of data are there, and what the limitations are,” Zuckerman said. “As we think about risk versus benefit, we need to know.”Joshua Sharfstein, vice dean for public health practice and community engagement at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and former FDA deputy commissioner during the Obama administration, said advisory committee meetings are more than just a way of receiving scientific input from outside experts.

    “It’s also an opportunity to educate the public about the important work that the FDA has done reviewing an enormous amount of data about a product,” Sharfstein told The BMJ. “It’s a chance for questions to be asked and answered, building public confidence.”
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    FDA approval is meaningless when it comes to the “covid 19” disease fraud, and otherwise.

    Criminals intent upon committing their crimes, especially when necessary to save their own sorry, miserable, lying asses will say and do anything. The first tenet of government and corporations, corporatism, is to lie. The bigger the lie and the more oft repeated the better. Then, destroy the evidence. Always. And, never miss the chance to accuse your enemies of that which you are guilty.

    If you ever wondered what you would do when confronted by a cold-blooded psychopathic tyrant ( or pack of them), you are now beyond any reasonable doubt put in that position and faced with a decision(s) that will make the difference between life and death, and at a minimum, the difference in the quality of your health, and in turn, the length of your life on this plane of existence.

    Act wisely based upon your values and your sense of wisdom. Trust in yourself.

    I know where I stand on this and I will act accordingly.

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    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    Quote Posted by mojo (here)
    Another sad day for our institutions. Myself and others have lost trust in them. I'm not sure what the real statistics would show us about the harmful effects of the vax, but I do know the insert on the Covid vax does not list ingredients. How will FDA approve the shot without this knowledge?


    Quote The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) on Monday granted full approval to Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine for individuals 16 years and older.

    "The FDA’s approval of this vaccine is a milestone as we continue to battle the COVID-19 pandemic," Acting FDA Commissioner Janet Woodcock said in a statement issued Monday. "While this and other vaccines have met the FDA’s rigorous, scientific standards for emergency use authorization, as the first FDA-approved COVID-19 vaccine, the public can be very confident that this vaccine meets the high standards for safety, effectiveness, and manufacturing quality the FDA requires of an approved product."

    That woman... Janet Woodcock... is either living in cloud cuckoo land or she is a shameless (and dangerous) liar...

    But we should expect no less now as people in key positions of authority around the world throw us to the wolves and literally don't give a damn about having any personal integrity or speaking the truth about anything -

    Just mind boggling how treacherous they are...
    I believe she was in charge of this debacle too.... "the history with OxyContin- FDA denied it was addictive for 10 years so Oxy was over deployed for minor pain relief- causing enormous tragedy- we very well may be seeing history repeat itself with an over deployed vaccine."

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    Pfizer Jab Receives Full Approval From FDA, Pentagon Mandates Jabs For All Troops
    https://youtu.be/CyHC-msmki8

    The Pentagon's press secretary has just confirmed that - as expected - the DoD will now require all troops across the armed services to get the jab.
    Where you at Patriots?

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    This is a sad day in history. Things are gonna escalate a lot now. Now the hard choices begin. May God strengthen you.

    If the military stand together with the people we can stop those tyrants.

    How can it receive "full approval" when the safety studies are not completed until 2023
    Because they are all in on this evil satanic agenda

    There already IS enough data to negate approving this drug! From myocardial, to blood clots, to healthy people dying shortly after the jab, to microscope proof of severe damage to red blood cells, and nanotechnology clumping together. This is purely political from the corrupt CDC.

    Hang in there Patriots. Mandates are not laws. Do not be deceived. You have a choice .

    Only choice is to leave the military

    Lol no u don’t we have to stand up now or we are going to loose our freedom

    Once you sign your name on those papers, you BELONG to the gov. I speak from experience

    we do not know the long term effects of injecting billions of toxic spike proteins in a human body. BTW. The purpose of the vax is to get your body to produce antibodies. If you are tested and have antibodies. What is the jab for anyway.

    My comment: The powers that be in the medical field, news media and the liberals are all deluded into thinking the vax is helping. They are deceived, they are not part of the conspiracy to sicken and weaken America and take part in the depopulation agenda. They genuinely think the vax is safe. They are deadly wrong in that assumption. Those that get two shots of the vax are at a greater risk of a host of terrible side effects and death within 3 years. That is the bottom line.

    It is very likely that 1 million people world wide have already died from the vax. You add that to the 4 million that died from the pandemic and we are already looking at 5 million dead, and this pandemic is just starting to take off. The next blame will be placed on the Covid variants, when they have no proof of them at all. They will blame the unvaccinated for those new variant infections, deaths and illnesses. They will continue the lie and embellish it, to keep covering up the truth.

    The people are so trusting and naïve they will continue to believe the lies from the officials. It is hard to say how many millions will have to die world wide before the people wake up to what is really going on.
    But one thing is certain, as people drop dead and a functioning society starts to grind to a halt because of the lack of trained workers, etc. - THEN the people will start to see the reality of what has happened.

    Dead pilots can't fly planes. Dead truck drivers can't deliver food. Dead train engineers can't run trains. Dead factory workers can't continue their skilled work. We're already seeing this, but the main stream media is not reporting it, and the politicians won't dare mention it. The employment statistics show a mysterious lack of trained workers right now to fill the jobs available, and no one is asking why. The truth is, hundreds of thousands have died in America FROM the vax. The nation is already grinding to a halt, and this is just the beginning. GE

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    FDA Commits Massive Criminal Fraud By Giving Full Approval to Injurious Covid Vaccines — PRIOR TO COMPLETING — the Required and Statutory Authorization Process—So why did they really do it?!

    Posted on August 23, 2021


    To Thwart the Coming Avalanche of
    Valid Lawsuits Being Filed Against Governments, Corporations, Colleges
    and Universities, Healthcare and
    Scientific Research Institutions,
    NGOs and Other Organizations Across
    the USA That Unlawfully Required
    Proof of Covid Vaccinations to Enter
    When The Vaccines Were Authorized
    for Emergency Use Only — THAT’S WHY!


    Even More Significantly, This Patently Illegitimate
    FDA Approval Provides a False Justification to
    Make These Frequently Fatal Vaccines Mandatory.
    Covid Vaccinations Can Never Be Made Compulsory
    Since They Represent Both an Invasion of Personal
    Sovereignty and Assault Against the Human Body.

    What else can be said but that every major governmental organ of the U.S. Public Health apparatus has conspired to aggressively promote and/or mandate the administration of extremely harmful, and often lethal, Covid injections to the American people.

    None dare call it a meticulously planned and highly organized GENOCIDE via vaccine-delivered bioweaponry; nevertheless, that’s exactly what it is.

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