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    "Suddenly Ivermectin shows up on the NIH website for treating Covid. After years of denial, blocking, interference, villification, ruining social media accounts, killing people, etc. they silently add it to their antiviral protocol.


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    a source for ivermectin:

    thetruthaboutivermectin.com
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    a source for ivermectin:

    thetruthaboutivermectin.com
    At 10 US $ per pill? (635 US$ for 60 pills)

    No, but thanks.
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    The War on Ivermectin
    Source:  https://conservativeplaylist.com/2022/10/09/the-war-on-ivermectin/
    The outcome could have been much different - and many lives saved - if Big Pharma hadn't been so successful at suppressing this generic pharmaceutical that was found to work against COVID-19.
    by Dr. Joseph Mercola  October 9, 2022

    Section Titles
    • Story-at-a-Glance
    • Kory’s Response to the American Board of Internal Medicine 
    • Kory’s New Specialty 
    • Treating Long-Haul COVID 
    • Trial and Error 
    • The Case for Sun Exposure 
    • COVID Really Revealed the Level of Corruption in Science 
    • The War on Ivermectin 
    • The Disinformation Playbook 
    • Disinformation Is an Old PR Tool Used by Toxic Industries 
    • Academic Freedom Is an Illusion 
    • COVID Hospitalizations Eradicated With Ivermectin 
    • Dosage Recommendations 
    • Save the Date: Medical Conference in Orlando, October 2022 
    • More Information

    Story-at-a-Glance

    In his book, “The War on Ivermectin: The Medicine That Saved Millions and Could Have Ended the COVID Pandemic,” Dr. Pierre Kory details the history of ivermectin and the how and why behind Big Pharma’s suppression of this drug when it was found to work against COVID-19

    After spending his career as an internist and critical care physician, Kory has now turned his attention to long-haul COVID and post-jab injury syndromes

    Daily ivermectin use is a mainstay of the treatment plans for long-haulers and those with COVID jab injuries, as the drug very effectively binds to the toxic spike protein that is causing most of the damage in both of these conditions

    Methylene blue can be helpful for those struggling with crippling fatigue, as it boosts mitochondrial respiration and improves energy metabolism. It’s actually the parent molecule for hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine, off-patent drugs used to treat COVID-19 along with zinc

    “The War on Ivermectin” reveals the disinformation playbook used by Big Pharma and its many allies to suppress highly useful and inexpensive medicines in order to protect and increase corporate profits

    In this interview, return guest Dr. Pierre Kory discusses his new book, “The War on Ivermectin: The Medicine That Saved Millions and Could Have Ended the COVID Pandemic.” In it, he details the history of ivermectin and the how and why behind Big Pharma’s suppression of this drug when it was found to work against COVID-19.

    Like Dr. Paul Marik and Dr. Peter McCullough, Kory has been threatened by the American Board of Internal Medicine, which is seeking to yank his medical license. While a family doctor in private practice can operate without board certification, most medical centers will not hire a doctor who isn’t board certified in his specialty, and insurance companies won’t put you on their panel.

    Kory’s Response to the American Board of Internal Medicine
    Kory, however, is not overly concerned about this threat — which is really little more than an intimidation tactic to shut him up — as he has no intention of ever going back to a hospital setting.

    “I’m done,” he says. “There’s no way I could walk into a hospital. I’ve just learned too much. I’ve learned too much about pharmaceutical control of almost all of the medical evidence. There’s no way I can fit. Now I’m a square peg in a round hole.

    So, to be honest, I don’t think [losing my board certification] would have an impact. I am now in private practice. I have a bustling telehealth practice and I’m very happy. I’m outside the system, I can do and say and care for the patients in a manner that I best see fit.

    Anyway, our reply [to the American Board of Internal Medicine] was different than Peter’s. He presented all the evidence to support all the statements they accused him of as being misinformation; very data driven, evidence-based.

    What we did is, our lawyer looked at their policy on misinformation and the process of ‘convicting’ someone of misinformation, and it required that they provide us the evidence showing that we are wrong and misinformed.

    But the letter to us was bizarre. It was this hodgepodge of statements that I’d made or written on my Substack, and it was just implied that that’s misinformation …

    So, we wrote back very simply, ‘Excuse us, but your letter does not follow your own misinformation policy. We ask that you kindly reissue the letter with the evidence showing that we’re wrong.’ And we’ve gotten radio silence ever since.”

    Kory’s New Specialty
    After spending his career as an internist and critical care physician, Kory has now turned his attention to long-haul COVID and post-jab injury syndromes — complex chronic illnesses. To that end, he’s collaborating with doctors who’ve spent decades treating other tricky conditions, such as chronic Lyme disease, fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome.

    “So, not only do I have a new career and practice, but also a new intellectual focus and it’s much more satisfying. I’m literally returning people to levels of function that they weren’t at before.

    These were oftentimes healthy people with full careers, children, they exercised, ate right and now they’re fully disabled with numerous organ system complaints.

    And I’ll tell you, getting them from 20% [function] to 40% [function] is a big deal, when they can actually do just a little bit more than they were doing before, and when you get them to 80%, it’s transformative.

    But it’s way more challenging. And I tell my patients, ‘Listen, I have to be humble here. I’m trying to figure this out. I’m collaborating, I’m reading, I’m learning from you.’ I’m learning from each patient, because we’re doing a lot of empiric therapies.

    We’re trying things, and so I learn. Each patient serves as their own control and I’m finding different things work on different patients. But the real challenge that I’m finding is that I don’t have any biomarkers or tests that I find helpful to direct therapies.

    A lot of the tests are normal, even inflammatory markers. Clotting markers are normal, and yet I know that they have inflammatory processes and they’re thrombogenic. So, I wish there was more research and guidance.”

    Treating Long-Haul COVID
    One of the primary complaints of those struggling with what we’re now calling “long-haul COVID” is fatigue, a lack of energy to do even the most basic things. Since mitochondria are responsible for 90% of the energy production in your body, it stands to reason that impaired energy production in the mitochondria, or more simply, mitochondrial dysfunction, is at play.

    The challenge is how to recover that function. One fascinating drug that can help in this regard is methylene blue, which helps mitochondrial respiration and improves brain energy metabolism. Methylene blue is actually the parent molecule for hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine, off-patent drugs commonly used to treat not only malaria but also COVID-19.

    Best known as a fish tank antiseptic and textile dye for blue jeans, it was actually the first synthetic drug in modern history, developed in 1876. Since then, we’ve discovered it has many really important medicinal benefits. Importantly, it’s the only known antidote for metabolic poisons, i.e., any poison that interferes with oxygen transport or displaces oxygen, either from the blood or from the mitochondria.

    Basically, as an electron cycler, methylene blue acts like a battery, but unlike other compounds that do the same thing, it doesn’t cause damaging oxidation in the process. You can review my interview with Dr. Francisco Gonzalez Lima here for more information.

    If anything interferes with oxygenation or cellular respiration, such as cyanide, methylene blue is able to bypass that point of interference through electron cycling, thus allowing mitochondrial respiration, oxygen consumption and energy production to function as it normally would. And, the effect is typically felt within hours, as it increases, by about 30%, the ability of the mitochondria to produce ATP in the electron transport chain. Kory has also found it useful.

    “My really sick patients use methylene blue,” he says. “Some of the really sick ones that aren’t responding to medicine, I send to a clinic where they do apheresis, ozone, methylene blue, infrared. One of them actually was discharged on oral methylene blue. And so, I want to figure out how to implement oral methylene blue.”

    Trial and Error
    Methylene blue is far from a cure-all, however. Any number of processes could be impacting your mitochondria, and they all need to be addressed. Adding to the complexity is that remedies that work really well in one long-hauler or COVID jab-injured patient often will not work for another, even though they present with very similar symptoms.

    “We’ve [found] about six or seven different pathophysiologic mechanisms, and one of them is mitochondrial dysfunction, but I don’t know which is the predominant one in each patient,” Kory says. “I have no way of figuring that out. The only way I figure it out is by responses to therapy.

    For instance, I had one young woman recently. I tried a number of therapies and what resurrected her, finally, was when I started to treat mast cell activation. I put her on antihistamine, famotidine [a heartburn medication], ketotifen [an asthma medication], and Boom.”

    The Case for Sun Exposure
    Daily sun exposure for about an hour around solar noon can also be important, as the near-infrared wavelengths will trigger melatonin production in your mitochondria, where you need it the most.

    Melatonin is a potent antioxidant, so getting plenty of sunshine on bare skin is a simple way to reduce reactive oxygen species (ROS) that cause damage, and secondarily increase the efficiency of ATP production. Kory has been recommending this as well.

    COVID Really Revealed the Level of Corruption in Science
    During our conversation, the issue of medical journals came up, and their role in the corruption of science. Kory notes:

    “That’s the other transformation that Paul [Marik] and I have undergone. We really looked to those journals thinking they were the most sophisticated and that was the top levels of science. But seeing what was published in those journals throughout COVID uncovered the absolute control by the pharmaceutical industry.

    I mean, what appears in those journals is what they allow to appear in those journals. Period. I know of many positive studies of repurposed drugs rejected. We’ve seen them pull the following — JAMA and The New England Journal both — where instead of rejecting [the paper] they hold onto it as if they’re considering it, and then the rejection comes months later.

    I’ve never heard of that in my career. Usually, when I’ve tried to submit manuscripts, they either say, ‘This is interesting. We’re sending it out for peer review,’ or they say, ‘This is not of sufficient interest to our readership at this time.’

    They rejected positive trials of ivermectin. And then, probably the greatest and most saddening corruption that they pulled, is that they published the Together trial on ivermectin, which is so brazenly fraudulent and corrupt.

    There are so many documented actions those investigators took in order to ensure they did not have a statistically significant benefit for ivermectin. Yet the New England Journal of Medicine published it. When you look at the design and the conduct of the trial, it should never be published. It was brazenly corrupt.

    The investigators were all working for either their own companies or other companies whose sole job was to do research contracts for pharmaceutical companies. I mean, what would happen in their careers had they published a positive trial on ivermectin? That’s it. Bye. No more contracts.”

    The War on Ivermectin
    According to Kory, the idea for “The War on Ivermectin” was birthed after reading an article titled “The Disinformation Playbook,”1 published by the Union for Concerned Scientists. He explains:

    “What happened is that after my ivermectin testimony2 [December 8, 2020, before Sen. Ron Johnson], which went viral and brought a lot of attention to the FLCCC … our protocols were looked in to. Doctors started prescribing ivermectin.

    And I thought — this is how naive I was — I literally thought that we were providing a major intervention that would alter the trajectory of the pandemic, without question. It would reduce cases, hospitalizations and deaths, and now you have an effective early outpatient treatment. And I thought that news would be welcomed.

    I thought the FLCCC would come out as heroes. It was really Paul who identified the data signal first. He said, ‘Wow. You got to see what these studies are starting to show.’ I jumped in right behind him. I was the first author of that comprehensive review paper.

    I worked a lot and I got deeply expert on ivermectin. But what happened in the next few months is that everything started going sideways, and I could not figure it out. I saw hit pieces. To you, this is not news. You’re probably like, ‘Yep. I’ve seen that before.’

    The thing is, I didn’t know. I didn’t know that what I was really doing — bringing forth data supporting the efficacy of a generic drug — that is poking the bear. And when I say poking the bear, what is anathema to the pharmaceutical industry and their whole business model is they cannot have generic off-patent drugs become standard of care. It obliterates the market for their pricing new pills.

    I didn’t know I was stepping into a war. In the history of pharma, I don’t think any single medicine threatened as many [drug] markets and campaigns. The only other medicine that did that was hydroxychloroquine, but they already killed hydroxychloroquine in 2020.

    I was coming out now with ivermectin, and it threatened hundreds of billions of dollars in perpetuity for these insanely lethal vaccines, monoclonal antibodies, remdesivir, paxlovid, molnupiravir — all of the markets for their novel new pills to enter. I mean, I don’t think any medicine has ever threatened that much of a market.

    So, we were getting attacked. I did an interview with the Associated Press and the article that came out, I mean, I almost had a heart attack [reading it]. I saw unending attacks on ivermectin and it was coming in different directions. I saw academia getting all hot and bothered.

    ‘It’s a fringe medicine. It’s unproven. The trials are small.’ I saw all these narratives and I didn’t know they were narratives at the time. I thought people were being stupid … Now, I see everything. I see everything they do now, even before they do it, because they’re really predictable.”

    The Disinformation Playbook
    The turning point came when Kory received a two-line email from Dr. William B. Grant (who also co-wrote my review paper3 on vitamin D for COVID prevention). The email said, “Dr. Kory, what they’re doing to ivermectin is what they’ve done to vitamin D for decades.” Attached was a link to The Disinformation Playbook article.4

    “It’s a short article. It’s very well-designed. They have little diagrams and then they have examples of disinformation campaigns. They describe the five plays, which they name after American football plays. And these are the tactics that pharma used. I read the article and I was like, ‘Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.’

    Suddenly, the world made sense — and not in a good way. It was very ugly, because I was like, ‘That’s what’s going on. There’s a massive disinformation campaign directed at ivermectin.’ From that moment on, everything that happened, every day, it was almost like I got tied to a front row seat for a horror movie. I’ve had to watch a horror movie unfold ever since.

    Millions dying, hospitals overflowing. And there’s a drug that could prevent that. It could avert catastrophe. It would’ve definitely either put the brakes on or stopped the vaccine campaign obsession, which is in my mind, is one of history’s greatest humanitarian catastrophes.

    It’s a holocaust out there with these vaccines. That’s easily proven from immense sources of data now, from life insurance data, disability data, excess mortality data. Now we’re even seeing birth rates dropping.

    So, the theme of the book is centered around that. It’s my experiences and knowledge of what they do … It’s almost like a teacher’s manual, because I saw everything they pulled, how they did it and how successful they were — the fire plays, the blitz, harass the scientists that come out with inconvenient science, the diversion, inject doubt where there is none.”

    Indeed, these disinformation tactics have a long history. They’re not new. It’s just that people in general have not been aware of these tactics, so they worked like a charm and could be used over and over again.

    Disinformation Is an Old PR Tool Used by Toxic Industries
    In the 1950s, the tobacco industry hired a PR agency called Hills and Knowlton, which established all the strategies Kory just listed and discuss at depth in his book. The tobacco industry used it so effectively, they were able to quash cancer concerns for another 50 years.

    Their disinformation campaign didn’t end until attorneys general across the country finally decided to collaborate and bring massive lawsuits against the tobacco industry, winning not only settlements but also — and more importantly — limiting their ability to practice disinformation through media and advertising.

    The telecommunications industry has used the same tactics since the ’90s. They actually hired the same PR firm to protect their business and hoodwink customers, and they’re still going strong. Unlike tobacco, which was finally understood to cause cancer, electromagnetic field (EMF) exposure from cell phones and Wi-Fi is still not recognized as a biological danger, despite massive amounts of evidence.

    The drug industry, though, has perhaps used the disinformation playbook the longest, and it’s high time to break their magic spell. The way we do that is by educating ourselves and others about how they use disinformation to manipulate you. Once you know their playbook, it’s like being equipped with X-ray vision.

    “I think ‘The War on Ivermectin’ is almost as important as Bobby Kennedy’s book, ‘The Real Anthony Fauci,’ where he, in a highly-referenced fashion, documents the control of medicine and the medical sciences and how it’s literally controlled by pharma and how depraved that control is,” Kory says.

    “They do not care. The pharmaceutical industry is a documented criminal industry. They’ve released many, many products that have caused untold deaths and what do they do? They try to suppress that evidence for as long as possible. They get caught. They pay a fine. They do it again.”

    Academic Freedom Is an Illusion
    Kory also became wise to the fact that these kinds of medical disinformation campaigns have been routine for decades. Ivermectin was just the last in a long line of repurposed drugs that were being suppressed, lest it threaten Big Pharma profits. Cancer drugs, heart medications and psychiatric remedies have all been buried in the same way. He continues:

    “So, I started to learn about how pharma practices disinformation, and I think the most terrible disinformation campaigns, which caused more deaths than any other, were the ones on hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin …

    So, the book is about all of the tactics that I witnessed. It’s also about my personal journey. I’ve been through a lot. I’ve lost three jobs. One I left voluntarily. One was mutual. The third was a firing. Also, my proudest contribution to COVID [was writing what] I thought was the best paper of my life. It was a paper that argued that the pulmonary phase of COVID is actually an organizing pneumonia, or what they used to call BOOP.

    I wrote a paper with one of the top chest radiologists in the world. I consulted pathologists. I looked at autopsy data, even just the CAT scans were in a pattern of organized pneumonia, which is a terrible descriptor for the disease, because it suggests that it’s an infection and it’s not.

    Organizing pneumonia is an inflammatory response to a lung injury. The gold standard of care is corticosteroids. That’s the only thing that’s been shown to really reverse organized pneumonia.

    I gave testimony in the Senate in May 2020, telling the world that it was critical to use corticosteroids in the hospital phase of disease. I got attacked by the University of Wisconsin. By the way, you know another thing that I learned? Academic freedom isn’t real. As soon as you’re a professor with an opinion that goes against orthodoxy or the system, oh, you’re going to feel the pressure …

    I was vindicated on corticosteroids. It’s now the standard of care around the world. However, the standard of care dose is 6 milligrams of dexamethasone, which is too low, [and] methylprednisone is far superior in its effects on the lung.

    It’s well-known that in fulminant cases, like whited out lungs on a ventilator, you need … 1,000 milligrams of methylprednisone for three days in a row. Six milligrams of Dex is equivalent to about 32 milligrams of methylprednisone.”

    COVID Hospitalizations Eradicated With Ivermectin
    While there are many individual success stories out there, one that Kory believes best illustrates the power of ivermectin against COVID is that of Itajai, Brazil, a city of 220,000 people. In June 2020, they implemented a prophylaxis program using ivermectin. The program was advertised throughout local media, and people were encouraged to participate and take ivermectin four times a month, on days 1, 2, 15 and 16.

    On the appropriate days, they set up tents and centers where people could get the drug, and the entire program was carefully logged in an electronic database. In all, 159,000 Brazilians participated, of those 113,000 elected to take the ivermectin. Kory and eight coauthors published a paper5 on the results in March 2022.

    “The 113,000 [who took the ivermectin] were older, sicker, fatter. Way more cardiovascular disease and diabetes. And, obviously, they were probably more worried about the impacts on their health.

    So, when you look at that comparison, I mean, there are massive negative confounders. But despite those confounders, even when you didn’t propensity match, there were insanely positive benefits in the ivermectin group.

    They died much less, I think it was 70% lower risk of dying, 68% lower risk of hospitalization and 50% lower risk of getting COVID. And that was in the sickest of the sick in that city. Then, when we did propensity matching, matching them for age and other things, it was even greater.

    There’s a follow up study which is astounding, where … they were able through pharmacy records to split the ivermectin group into two. Regular ivermectin users, those who took all their pills, and irregular, those who missed doses.

    And when you look at the regular users, the ones who were most adherent to the protocol, no one went to the hospital. There was a 100% reduction in hospitalization and a 90% lower risk of dying. It’s astounding … I’ve never seen a more proven therapy in any disease model, which they successfully got everyone to believe is a horse dewormer used by unvaccinated conspiracy theorists.”

    Dosage Recommendations
    Ivermectin recommendations have changed over time, as newer variants have acted differently, requiring updated approaches. At present, Kory still recommends ivermectin for prevention, if you really feel you need it. Current COVID variants are very mild, however, and rarely cause severe problems (unless you got the COVID jab).

    For those struggling with long-haul COVID, ivermectin is a mainstay. “It’s the most frequently effective therapy,” Kory says. “I do have in my practice a minority who are ivermectin non-responders, but the majority respond in either small or large ways.” Importantly, ivermectin is the most effective drug available for binding to the spike protein.

    So, if there’s circulating spike protein in your body, be it from natural infection or the jab, ivermectin will help bind to it, thereby preventing much of the spike’s negative impacts.

    Ivermectin also repolarizes macrophages from the M1 to the M2 subtype. M1 is hyperinflammatory and M2 is hypo-inflammatory. So, it reduces inflammation. In addition to that, ivermectin has at least 18 other mechanisms of action and downstream effects that can be helpful.

    For long-haulers and the COVID jab injured, Kory typically starts patients out at 0.3 mg per kilo of bodyweight once a day. For most, that dose works well. It’s still unclear how long people need to stay on this daily dose. Oftentimes, when they try to cut back, symptoms return, which suggests they still have spike protein in their bodies. Fortunately, the safety profile of ivermectin, even for long-term use, is very good.

    Save the Date: Medical Conference in Orlando, October 2022
    Hopefully, more doctors will get involved in the treatment of spike protein injuries. October 15 and 16, 2022, the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) will be holding a medical conference in Orlando, Florida, titled “Understanding and Treating Spike Protein Induced Diseases.” You can register for the conference on the FLCCC’s website.

    “We have a lineup of speakers, deeply studied in treatment of complex chronic illnesses from different specialties. There are a lot of ways to approach this disease, so it’s really important. It really is directed at the treating providers. Because one of the many abject failures is they literally don’t recognize vaccine injury.

    There’s no clinic for the vaccine injured. They’re abandoned, and I’m just going to be crude here — they’re pissing off the doctors because all of these patients are showing up that doctors have no idea what’s wrong with.

    They have no knowledge of the mechanisms. They have no knowledge of what some effective therapies can be. So, they’re not treating these patients. They’re abandoned and gaslit.

    Some doctors actually get angry when the patients relate their symptoms to the vaccine. They don’t want to hear it. They don’t want a vaccine injured in their practice. I have numbers of patients where the physician literally told them, ‘You don’t need to schedule a follow up.’

    So, for those [doctors] who still have a shred of humanity, empathy and understanding that the spike protein is a toxin that causes immense amounts of disease, I hope they attend and/or watch the lectures that we’ll stream afterwards.

    We’re coming at this very humble. I mean, there are very few trials on therapies in these two syndromes. So, it’s really about clinical knowledge, expertise and experiences from this disease and other diseases.

    I am looking forward to it because I want to learn. I want to listen to those other speakers and hear about what they think and how they approach this. And I think it’s going to be a really tremendous conference. I think a lot of laypeople will show up too …

    Laypeople who are much more deeply studied and knowledgeable on what’s really going on. They didn’t go to medical school, but they’re deeply studied and they read papers. They watch, read a lot of data sources.

    So, I think it would be of interest to laypeople who want to learn how to either help themselves, or help their friends and colleagues, just like they did with COVID. You know how many laypeople passed around our protocols and tried to get their friends and relatives access to the medicines on our protocol? They saved lives. They saved lives by doing that.”

    More Information
    In the interview, Kory also reviews the clear and present danger the COVID jab poses to women, especially if they’re pregnant or want to get pregnant in the future. We also review the blatant fraud perpetrated by Pfizer to hide the massive number of miscarriages that occurred in its human trial.

    In summary, the miscarriage rate is 87.5%, which is just astounding. No woman in her right mind would pull that trigger if she had that information. We also discuss the worldwide drops in birth rates (which began after the rollout of these experimental jabs), the complete absence of any supporting data for the authorization of COVID shots for children (which is yet another medical fraud perpetrated on the American people), and the lie that COVID is a pandemic of the unvaccinated (it’s actually the complete opposite).

    So, for more on those topics, please listen to the full interview, or read through the transcript. You can also find more of Kory’s work on PierreKory.substack.com. Last but not least, be sure to pick up a copy of “The War on Ivermectin: The Medicine That Saved Millions and Could Have Ended the COVID Pandemic” to learn all about how the biggest, most lethal medical disinformation play was perpetrated, right before your eyes.

    Article cross-posted from Dr. Mercola’s Substack.
    Cross-Posted Here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1521899
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    Just an observation -some of the members on here may know I'm currently immersed in a PhD my research paper is about SuperConspiracy Theory... joining the dots so to speak.

    I wanted to write a chapter about the alternative treatments of Covid19 and was going to add Ivermectin to the thesis, with I hoped some robust references.

    I was quite surprised that when making a recent search about the anti-parasitic drug and its effectiveness on the treatment of Covid.

    The amount of papers and medical research conducted appears to be tenfold as compared to the start of the pandemic.

    Most of the papers I have seen have been quite negative and dismissive- in recent trials, about the effectiveness of Ivermectin for patients as an alternative treatment of Covid.

    I'd took Ivermectin last year when I was quite unwell during the 'pandemic'.

    I know there's a purge online of anything that is going against the official narratives, it just seems odd that lots scientist worldwide are totally dismissive about the drug.

    Would appreciate any forum members thoughts on the matter.

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    Quote Posted by mizo (here)
    Just an observation -some of the members on here may know I'm currently immersed in a PhD my research paper is about SuperConspiracy Theory... joining the dots so to speak.

    I wanted to write a chapter about the alternative treatments of Covid19 and was going to add Ivermectin to the thesis, with I hoped some robust references.

    I was quite surprised that when making a recent search about the anti-parasitic drug and its effectiveness on the treatment of Covid.

    The amount of papers and medical research conducted appears to be tenfold as compared to the start of the pandemic.

    Most of the papers I have seen have been quite negative and dismissive- in recent trials, about the effectiveness of Ivermectin for patients as an alternative treatment of Covid.

    I'd took Ivermectin last year when I was quite unwell during the 'pandemic'.

    I know there's a purge online of anything that is going against the official narratives, it just seems odd that lots scientist worldwide are totally dismissive about the drug.

    Would appreciate any forum members thoughts on the matter.
    Three important Chris Martenson videos. They all reference good research.

    9 Sept 2021: (37 mins)

    17 Sept 2021: (10 mins)

    4 Jan 2022: (32 mins)
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    Deep state money supply: FTX, the collapsed crypto exchange, funded the “TOGETHER Trial” to discredit ivermectin
    11/15/2022 - By Ethan Huff

    Remember that infamous New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) study that declared ivermectin to be an ineffective remedy against the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19)? It turns out that the now-defunct cryptocurrency exchange FTX helped pay for it.

    On May 16, the FTX Foundation issued a press release “proudly” announcing financial support for the “global expansion of the TOGETHER Trial,” as they called it, the lead investigators of which were awarded that very same day the prestigious Trial of the Year Award from the Society for Clinical Trials (SCT) in San Diego.

    “Each year the SCT presents one award for a randomized clinical trial published the previous year that best exemplifies five key criteria including improvements to humankind and provides a basis for substantial and beneficial changes to health care,” the press release states.

    “The TOGETHER Trial is the largest placebo-controlled COVID-19 trial and has, so far, evaluated 11 different treatments for COVID-19. On May 16, the TOGETHER trial receives the award and announces more than $18 million in funding and purchase commitments from the FTX Foundation that will enable the expansion of the trial from Brazil and Canada, to include experienced sites in South Africa, Rwanda, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, the Bahamas, Pakistan, Vietnam, and Ghana.”

    The press release goes on to feature quotes from several lead investigators as well as employees at the FTX Foundation, all of whom celebrated and praised each other for this “achievement”. (Related: Other research out of Brazil found that ivermectin helps reduce the risk of covid death by 92 percent.)

    Did FTX steal crypto investors’ money to fund corrupt studies like the TOGETHER Trial?

    David Henderson of EconLog critiqued the FTX-funded anti-ivermectin study and found that “it is not nearly as conclusive and persuasive as the two doctors’ quotes and other media coverage would lead us to believe.”

    It turns out trial participants actually did benefit from the use of ivermectin, which in many other countries is available as an over-the-counter medication similar to aspirin. Only in the United States and other heavily globalist-controlled countries is ivermectin prescription-only or not available at all due to political pressures.

    Henderson explains that the study’s methodology was flawed because prospective patients who were sick with covid and actually wanted ivermectin shied away from it because of the 50-50 chance that they would end up with a placebo instead.

    “Further, those who wanted ivermectin likely would have had a serious case of COVID; hence their desire for the drug,” he says. “Therefore, we can assume that the trial participants skewed toward those who considered themselves at low risk from the illness. This conflicts with the stated goal of the trial, which was to study high-risk patients.”

    None of this ended up mattering, though, as the globalists behind the TOGETHER Trial produced the results they wanted. And the FTX Foundation is a big reason why that happened, as the organization presumably stole crypto investors’ money to supply the cash needed to make it happen.

    Since we now know that FTX head Sam Bankman-Fried bilked investor cash to funnel it into Ukraine and ultimately the Biden regime and other Democrats, it is hardly a stretch to assume that the same criminality was used to fund this anti-ivermectin trial, and possibly other studies as well.

    “Criminal charges need to be brought to those responsible for shutting down doctors from helping their patients during the pandemic,” wrote a commenter about the anti-ivermectin agenda and everyone behind it, including Bankman-Fried and his FTX scam.
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    I stumbled recently across the videos from a Qigong teacher and Mao-Shan practitioner I know from another forum 10 years ago. He caught covid about 10 months back and recovered successfully. He took Ivermectin and believes it helped him recover and weather the symptoms (though doesn't see it as a miracle cure).


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/HrbXjoZ2u0Zk

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    Quote Posted by Johan (Keyholder) (here)
    Quote Posted by TomKat (here)
    a source for ivermectin:

    thetruthaboutivermectin.com
    At 10 US $ per pill? (635 US$ for 60 pills)

    No, but thanks.
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    • FDA Admits To Gaslighting About Ivermectin:

    Remember when the FDA decided to get all “cheeky” about telling Americans not to take Ivermectin as a treatment for or prophylactic against COVID, issuing a tweet declaring that you’re not a horse or a cow? That was hilarious, right? And then the agency continued to tell us not to take Ivermectin, often using some animal-themed reference? Well that’s all over now and the FDA is trying to claim that they merely “recommended” against using Ivermectin. Where did you ever get the idea that they were issuing a directive? Jimmy and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger discuss the FDA’s gaslighting as it desperately tries to backpedal and rewrite its history of telling people not to take Ivermectin.
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    Quote Posted by mizo (here)
    Just an observation -some of the members on here may know I'm currently immersed in a PhD my research paper is about SuperConspiracy Theory... joining the dots so to speak.

    I wanted to write a chapter about the alternative treatments of Covid19 and was going to add Ivermectin to the thesis, with I hoped some robust references.

    I was quite surprised that when making a recent search about the anti-parasitic drug and its effectiveness on the treatment of Covid.

    The amount of papers and medical research conducted appears to be tenfold as compared to the start of the pandemic.

    Most of the papers I have seen have been quite negative and dismissive- in recent trials, about the effectiveness of Ivermectin for patients as an alternative treatment of Covid.

    I'd took Ivermectin last year when I was quite unwell during the 'pandemic'.

    I know there's a purge online of anything that is going against the official narratives, it just seems odd that lots scientist worldwide are totally dismissive about the drug.

    Would appreciate any forum members thoughts on the matter.
    Hello Mizo,

    For your research and thesis I can give you my negative testimony about Ivermectin. I am aware of course about all the raving success stories about this covid treatment and have really no time to go thru all information available on this thread.

    I know from close by of 2 cases last year that applied the protocol ( Ivermectin, azytromicine and the known supplements and vitamins) but FAILED and were hospitalized for 13 and 20 days to receive respiratory assistance and cortisone pills to get them thru.
    I questioned them in detail and the right doses were applied from shortly after the covid outbreak. To no avail. The older patient was quarantined with a group of tourists in Athens. The adult daughter informed me that the others healed rapidly and had also taken Hydroxycloroquine. The older man had a counter indication against HQC because of a heart condition. The Ivermectin alone did not save him from being hospitalized.
    I personally will not count on IVM for a sudden outbreak of Covid. One must react immediately and consider different causes that can be a combined reason for the illness.
    Someone said that my testimony does not help in the case against the vaccination tyranny. But I will not refrain to give this testimony to persons who can use it in their research. Best regards.

    ADDED NOTE = Both cases were unvaccinated against covid and males ( 70 and 80 years old) .
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    It can happen, of course. Ivermectin does not work every time for everything.

    In the cases you cite, they should have used HCQ. It is more effective when already infected.
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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    It can happen, of course. Ivermectin does not work every time for everything.

    In the cases you cite, they should have used HCQ. It is more effective when already infected.
    That is why I reported this Ernie.
    But even more important is that one does not have time to go by trial and error. One must react immediately with the right protocol to avoid lung damage and you may get into hospital. Is HCQ or CDS this best rapid reaction, who can tell? I suspect the success of Ivermectin was primarily in India or big Brazilian cities. These tropical regions have more parasites and when these are destroyed, the natural immunity can more easily take over to combat covid.
    Then there is the use of IVM for the vaccinated. That is a different story because it seems to neutralize these bad substances and injected parasites.

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    We took the horse paste version 4 days into the extremely tough Delta variant (summer of 2021 as I recall), because it took that long to get ahold of it.

    And I still had 6 more days of high fevers (102-104 some days), so I figured I started on it too late.

    Never needed hospitalization or had long-term lung issues as far as I know. (Well extended family members argued for us going to hospital, but I knew I was safer staying at home and self-treating.)
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    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    We took the horse paste version 4 days into the extremely tough Delta variant (summer of 2021 as I recall), because it took that long to get ahold of it.

    And I still had 6 more days of high fevers (102-104 some days), so I figured I started on it too late.

    Never needed hospitalization or had long-term lung issues as far as I know. (Well extended family members argued for us going to hospital, but I knew I was safer staying at home and self-treating.)
    You waited way too long and should have taken azythromicine or an antibiotic to combat dangerous high fever. Probably you are a strong healthy person but if the unstoppable cough starts and you do not go to hospital for respiratory aid, your life is at risk because the damage to the lungs may go too far. The fear of hospital is understandable in the US with the murderous en-tubing. Here they use the simple respiratory aid thru the nostrils as long as it is not a pulmonary embolia and then they get desperate with the treatment I heard.

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    Quote Posted by Philippe (here)
    Quote Posted by mizo (here)
    Just an observation -some of the members on here may know I'm currently immersed in a PhD my research paper is about SuperConspiracy Theory... joining the dots so to speak.

    I wanted to write a chapter about the alternative treatments of Covid19 and was going to add Ivermectin to the thesis, with I hoped some robust references.

    I was quite surprised that when making a recent search about the anti-parasitic drug and its effectiveness on the treatment of Covid.

    The amount of papers and medical research conducted appears to be tenfold as compared to the start of the pandemic.

    Most of the papers I have seen have been quite negative and dismissive- in recent trials, about the effectiveness of Ivermectin for patients as an alternative treatment of Covid.

    I'd took Ivermectin last year when I was quite unwell during the 'pandemic'.

    I know there's a purge online of anything that is going against the official narratives, it just seems odd that lots scientist worldwide are totally dismissive about the drug.

    Would appreciate any forum members thoughts on the matter.
    Hello Mizo,

    For your research and thesis I can give you my negative testimony about Ivermectin. I am aware of course about all the raving success stories about this covid treatment and have really no time to go thru all information available on this thread.

    I know from close by of 2 cases last year that applied the protocol ( Ivermectin, azytromicine and the known supplements and vitamins) but FAILED and were hospitalized for 13 and 20 days to receive respiratory assistance and cortisone pills to get them thru.
    I questioned them in detail and the right doses were applied from shortly after the covid outbreak. To no avail. The older patient was quarantined with a group of tourists in Athens. The adult daughter informed me that the others healed rapidly and had also taken Hydroxycloroquine. The older man had a counter indication against HQC because of a heart condition. The Ivermectin alone did not save him from being hospitalized.
    I personally will not count on IVM for a sudden outbreak of Covid. One must react immediately and consider different causes that can be a combined reason for the illness.
    Someone said that my testimony does not help in the case against the vaccination tyranny. But I will not refrain to give this testimony to persons who can use it in their research. Best regards.

    ADDED NOTE = Both cases were unvaccinated against covid and males ( 70 and 80 years old) .
    Thank You for that Phillipe, I do believe that when it is taken, what has been tried before, and what else was applied does matter... Age may make a difference as well... we really just don't know, so your input is treasured.

    And for Pan and Johan, I agree, that is ridiculous... However, at this point replenishing supplies that are gone due to trying to help others get well? May very well feed this price gouging, as it makes you ask, "What's a life worth", and people WILL PAY if they feel they need it bad enough... Sad really, people profiting over the well being of others, to disgusting levels.

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    I just wanted to let you guys know that I was finally able to order ivermectin through indiamart lastnight.

    I will let you know what the end result was.... If I actually receive a package of what I ordered. It seems the bank I use finally lightened restrictions on wiring money overseas, and completed the transaction for me! (I listed the sending of money as a transaction for household goods)

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    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/s...ght-ivermectin

    Setting The Record Straight On Ivermectin

    Authored by David Henderson and Charles Hooper via The Brownstone Institute,

    an excerpt

    Quote Let’s consider the evidence.

    Ivermectin has a distinguished history, and it may have benefits comparable to those of penicillin. The anti-parasitic’s discovery led to a Nobel Prize and subsequent billions of safe administrations around the world, even among children and pregnant women. “Ivermectin is widely available worldwide, inexpensive, and one of the safest drugs in modern medicine.”

    The FDA put out a special warning against using ivermectin for COVID-19. The FDA’s warning, which included language such as, “serious harm,” “hospitalized,” “dangerous,” “very dangerous,” “seizures,” “coma and even death,” and “highly toxic,” might suggest that the FDA was warning against pills laced with poison, not a drug the FDA had already approved as safe. Why did it become dangerous when used for COVID-19? The FDA didn’t say.

    Because of the FDA’s rules, if it were to make any statement on ivermectin, it was obliged to attack it. The FDA prohibits the promotion of drugs for unapproved uses. Since fighting SARS-CoV-2 was an unapproved use of ivermectin, the FDA couldn’t have advocated use without obvious hypocrisy. Ivermectin’s discoverer, Merck & Co., had multiple reasons to disparage its own drug.

    Merck, too, couldn’t have legally “promoted” ivermectin for COVID-19 without a full FDA approval, something that would have taken years and many millions of dollars. Plus, Merck doesn’t make much money from cheap, generic ivermectin but was hoping to find success with its new, expensive drug, Lagevrio (molnupiravir).

    A large study of ivermectin for COVID-19 by Elgazzar et al. was withdrawn over charges of plagiarism and faked data. Many media reports seem fixated on this one dubious study, but it was one of many clinical studies. After the withdrawn studies have been removed from consideration, there are 15 trials that suggest that ivermectin doesn’t work for COVID-19 and 78 that do.

    The TOGETHER trial received significant positive press. The New York Times quoted two experts who had seen the results. One stated, “There’s really no sign of any benefit [from ivermectin],” while the other said, “At some point it will become a waste of resources to continue studying an unpromising approach.”

    While the Elgazzar paper was quickly dismissed, the TOGETHER trial was acclaimed. It shouldn’t have been. Researchers who have analyzed it have found 31 critical problems (impossible data; extreme conflicts of interest; blinding failure), 22 serious problems (results were delayed six months; conflicting data), and 21 major problems (multiple, conflicting randomization protocols) with it.

    While the popular narrative is that the TOGETHER trial showed that ivermectin didn’t work for COVID-19, the actual results belie that conclusion: ivermectin was associated with a 12 percent lower risk of death, a 23 percent lower risk of mechanical ventilation, a 17 percent lower risk of hospitalization, and a 10 percent lower risk of extended ER observation or hospitalization. We have calculated that the probability that ivermectin helped the patients in the TOGETHER trial ranged from 26 percent for the median number of days to clinical recovery to 91 percent for preventing hospitalization. The TOGETHER trial’s results should be reported accurately.


    Based on the clinical evidence from the 93 trials that ivermectin reduced mortality by an average of 51 percent, and on the estimated infection fatality rate of COVID-19, about 400 infected Americans aged 60-69 would need to be treated with ivermectin to statistically prevent one death in that group. The total cost of the ivermectin to prevent that one death: $40,000.

    (Based on the GoodRx website, a generic prescription for ivermectin is priced at approximately $40. Roughly 2.5 prescriptions would be needed per person to receive the average dose of 150 mg per patient.)
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    Default Re: Ivermectin

    I have a new "boots on the ground" testimony. On Thursday, I noticed I didnt feel right, somewhat tired , out of sorts and a hacking cough beginning.

    By late day I felt worse and felt the flu coming on. I remembered these symptoms well last time I was very sick. I went straight for the Ivermectin. A 12 mill pill, cut in half and taken half in the morning and half at night. I added my usual zinc/ quercetin tumeric, vit d and probiotics.

    By late in the day Friday I had turned it all around. By Saturday I felt close to normal and by Sunday I was out the door feeling pretty good.
    Today I played hockey and feel great. Its done. Its gone. No white coat condoning my approach.

    If I was to tell the same story , instead of Ivermectin, I told friends I went to the Doctor, got a shot and antibiotics, they would say, You See!! science man
    Glad you got to the doctor. That stuff really works etc

    But since I turned this around my way, its written off as, well you probably had a 24 hour bug, a flu, or just a little run down. or, just plain lucky
    People will not trust a person actually making thier own informed decision

    One needs to be a personal warrior and stay the course. Its hard but can be done. Th Avalon family helps!

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