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    Default Can Trump really be a ‘pure’ White Hat in this battle?

    This is the first time I started a topic on this forum and it’s about something I’ve been thinking about a lot this week.

    Now first of all I am writing this with the assumption that Donald Trump is a White Hat, that is, someone who doesn’t want the NWO plan to succeed and wants a better future for humanity. I know there are enough people here who disagree and I know all the arguments why, they are also often in my mind and I don’t actually totally discard the possibility that he might not be a White Hat at all, but right now I am still giving Trump the benefit of the doubt (though that benefit was a lot stronger before Operation Warp Speed and from October 2020, when he was mentioning the covid medicines a lot, until spring 2021). So this is not meant as a place to discuss whether he in fact is or is not part of the Black Hats. This is more a ‘for argument’s sake’ approach.

    So let’s assume he in fact IS working against the Black Hats, then how do we reconcile his recommendations for the ‘vaccine’? For me, the line ‘it is code language’ is not credible anymore. The people who said that were saying that vaccines mean arrests or even executions and I don’t think he recommended everyone in his audience during his last rally to get arrested or executed.... and by the way, if he did, that would mean he would definitely be a Black Hat, because the jabs are in fact a form of (postponed) execution, that is what it looks like. And he did say he got the vaccine too, which would then mean that even he was arrested or executed...and I am just not buying into that.

    Now, recommending a vaccine he knows will kill billions of people is not anything like anything a true White Hat would want to do.

    So what if:

    - What if Trump actually shares some of the beliefs of the Black Hats, one of which is that the population needs to be (drastically) reduced in order to create a better manageable world for everybody, because he believes that as long as the world is overpopulated we cannot have a sustainable future? And maybe he also shares the idea that this is a survival of the fittest issue, where only the strong ones (in this case, the smarter (in his eyes), more aware people) survive.

    - Or more interesting: what if Trump and the White Hats know (I am starting to talk like X22 Report now..), or better said, have concluded, maybe by remote viewing or just by analyzing different tactics, that a successful victory over the NWO plans cannot be achieved in any other way than this, because too many people on this planet are in fact successfully mind controlled/brainwashed and they would not accept any overthrow of the current regime. Maybe this is the ONLY way they have calculated that a victory would be possible, because it is exactly those people who en masse get themselves injected. This way he could use the depopulation agenda against the Black Hats, by allowing the rebellious people (against the NWO) to inherit the planet.

    Now personally I don’t agree with any form of depopulation. And I don’t think that when you manage a depopulation agenda you can be a pure White Hat. But you could be a Grey Hat, because your final goal is to create a world with harmony, prosperity and total freedom of every human being, which is the white part, but you accomplish that while allowing billions of people to die, and even speeding up the process, which is as dark as it can be.

    Maybe in this world, where everything is so corrupted, it is simply not possible to be a pure White Hat, which would be sad beyond comparison. We are talking about mass genocide here and it is just atrocious, but if there is only a choice between the above scenario with a positive outcome for those who survive and total darkness (which by the way will lead to the end of the human race, because in total darkness there is devolution (meaning the opposite of evolution, not the Patel Patriot theory) , and I believe it is written in the fabric of the Universe that life only has a function as long as consciousness can evolve and expand (and not by inferior AI technology), and when it does not have a function anymore it ceases to exist) then the choice is clear.

    If any other scenario, let’s say a military takeover before total tyranny kicks in, is at play here, after which they could announce the fatality of the injections and provide a cure for the vaccinated, they need to act really really fast now, and unfortunately this scenario seems more and more unlikely as days and weeks pass.

    So the bottom line is: do you think it is actually possible on this planet to truly have White Hats or is Grey the only other choice there is, if you want to succeed beating the dark forces?

    I know this is a dire philosophical question, but we are in unprecedented dire times...

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    Default Re: Can Trump really be a ‘pure’ White Hat in this battle?

    George Washington rode a white horse and never got shot, he stuck out like a sore thumb, he was a moving target, there were sharpshooters in the day back then as well. His men though of him as angelic as this country needed to be created to be the beacon of light and freedom . That being said lets Segway to trump.

    It took a very special individual to step forward into these shoes, an individual who didn't drink, smoke, no drugs, ate McDonald's cheeseburgers and was villanized over that wasn't he.It was an individual who needed to be confident and brash as they were entering the snake pit of greed and power where everything is on the table for gain. He and our first lady took NO lavish vacations during the 4 years he was in office and all of his pay were donated to charitable groups his entire time in office. It appears he's had attempts on his life, I was told the other day while he was in office there were 6 attempts to overrun the white house, 2 times to burn it down that were never in the news. If we were playing poker today and the hand of god was involved as I believe it was in George Washington's time and in our current time, that's a hand I wouldn't bet against.

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    I'm not taking either side, but I don't think you can leave out of the discussion the fact that Trump has never supported Julian Assange.
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    What is this obsession with Trump ??? He's gone ... Another here today gone tomorrow politician , and he won't be coming back ....

    White hats/ Black hats ??? It's not as easy as that , and that's why some of trumps actions will be seen as "Good" and others "Bad" ...Trump did start off as an independent , genuine good guy , opposing many of the cabals long standing policies , like carbon taxes ...but tremendous pressure would have been brought to bare on him . Mind influence , both psychic and electronic to give him faulty judgement ...

    Don't expect politicians to save us , no human can stay centered when in the firing line from ET mind control ..We are not in the firing line to that extent , the answer will come from us , Praying for Divine intervention ...

    The vaccine will not kill billions , and the virus has been neutralized by the Divine realm to no worse than flue , the vaccine does carry mind control and tracker nano chips ... Mark my words in a years time the global population will still be increasing ( unless they hit us with another calamity (WWIII or economic collapse, food shortage)

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    Default Re: Can Trump really be a ‘pure’ White Hat in this battle?

    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    I'm not taking either side, but I don't think you can leave out of the discussion the fact that Trump has never supported Julian Assange.
    Well... he did, until he didn't.

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    Default Re: Can Trump really be a ‘pure’ White Hat in this battle?

    • Another (maybe) overlooked issue of our times, is this: imagine someone you admire (or is very dear to you) says (hypothetically) this:
    "Yes I lied to you ... even about things with huge consequences ... but I was blackmailed so badly and so were members of my family ... "I felt I had no choice" ... I tried to "do the right thing" and I did in so many other very important issues ... but I can not win them all ... sorry ... hopefully you can forgive me ... Did I say I my family was also threatened to have a "car accident" or a "plane crash" if I did/do not change my ways speaking about topics like Vaccines & Vaccine Passports?
    • You see, sometimes even truth can stand in the way of the "best people" saving their own loved ones above the rest of humanity.
    And IF above hypothetical case really happened or something very similar happened ... how do we solve this problem? ... Anyone?
    • What level of lie-damage impact should this be rated? .. Less or more than usual?
    • Are there (government) protocols how to deal with this very issue? ... If not why not?
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    This week I heard Clif High speak about Trump's vaccine support, and his thinking appealed to me. Clif said that it was possible that two things were affecting Trump's opinion about the vax rollout. 1. He is surrounded by normies. 2. He doesn't use the internet much to do the kind of research that we do. If you are surrounded by normies you might not know the devastation the vaccines are causing because all the mainstream media prevents any discussion along those lines. And if you don't use the internet, then you don't know much about the alternate theories we have about the kill shots.

    My really brilliant eye specialist doctor has received the shots, and last March was surprised that I hadn't gotten them. I told him about some of my ideas regarding the shots and it was all new to him. Why I thought afterwards? The answer is my brilliant eye doctor has no time to study these things like I do. He is a normal American workaholic who trusts the medical profession that has underpinned his very successful life and lifestyle. Trump may be just like my eye doctor, too busy to research this, and from a generation that had much more faith in the medical profession than most of us do today.

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    Quote Posted by Arcturian108 (here)
    This week I heard Clif High speak about Trump's vaccine support, and his thinking appealed to me. Clif said that it was possible that two things were affecting Trump's opinion about the vax rollout. 1. He is surrounded by normies. 2. He doesn't use the internet much to do the kind of research that we do. If you are surrounded by normies you might not know the devastation the vaccines are causing because all the mainstream media prevents any discussion along those lines. And if you don't use the internet, then you don't know much about the alternate theories we have about the kill shots.

    My really brilliant eye specialist doctor has received the shots, and last March was surprised that I hadn't gotten them. I told him about some of my ideas regarding the shots and it was all new to him. Why I thought afterwards? The answer is my brilliant eye doctor has no time to study these things like I do. He is a normal American workaholic who trusts the medical profession that has underpinned his very successful life and lifestyle. Trump may be just like my eye doctor, too busy to research this, and from a generation that had much more faith in the medical profession than most of us do today.
    Fair Enough, but I'd like to think the president has a highly connected secret society network who know exactly what's going on as their scientists should be incredibly wise and huge reach for knowlege. Maybe not, but that is scary if they aren't more clued in.

    Trump is probably part of a different faction. Perhaps they are allowing the depopulation or whatever, but they want to keep the US strong thru these times, where the other faction wants to take out the US first.

    Also, a very likely and obvious possibility is that Trump was just supporting the vaccine as to not lose voters. After the election, he could have then started changing his tune and stop the nonsense.

    Yes , there are too many very bright people living in a small world. Because there is really no reason to infiltrate the eye doctor profession and control it for agendas, they assume that lack of corruption is even across the board, i guess. The only corruption would be that childrens eyes are adjusting at times and so quickly putting glasses on kids for money is probably a bad thing. I wonder how many kids eyes would adjust naturally if they waited for a bit.

    Now if they could design glasses that made people like us become more blind to reality, then they'd be all over that and your friend might catch on. lol

    We could also question someone's 'brilliance' if they are that buried in work money, success, etc. Awareness and wisdom is more brilliant.

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    Default Re: Can Trump really be a ‘pure’ White Hat in this battle?

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    Also, a very likely and obvious possibility is that Trump was just supporting the vaccine as to not lose voters. After the election, he could have then started changing his tune and stop the nonsense.

    We already know he didn’t change his tune after the elections. He did however speak out against booster shots, which was interesting. On the other hand, when asked about vaccine passports during a recent interview he avoided the question.
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    Default Re: Can Trump really be a ‘pure’ White Hat in this battle?

    who do the so called white hats represent, is it just another front/mask?..how can we know?

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    Trump is a nationalist, but we thought he was a populist. Oops.

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    I really think the Trump ship has sailed. There is a lot of people that won't let it go, including him. I begrudgingly voted for him in 2o16 because I thought HRC was a poor example for a first woman CinC. I find Trump to be unprofessional and he did not carry himself quite like his boardroom tele persona. I really cannot understand the cult-like following he managed to obtain.

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    who do the so called white hats represent, is it just another front/mask?..how can we know?
    President Trump representing all 32nd degree Scottish Rite masons and below in a secret masonic ceremony in the forbidden city in China during his recent Asian visit was admitted as a fellow of the White Dragon Society, the Asian equivalent of Masonry
    ..this would appear to answer this ..more or less what i thought
    ...it all seems to be the same thing with different labels

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    Default Re: Can Trump really be a ‘pure’ White Hat in this battle?

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    Quote Posted by Arcturian108 (here)

    Also, a very likely and obvious possibility is that Trump was just supporting the vaccine as to not lose voters. After the election, he could have then started changing his tune and stop the nonsense.

    We already know he didn’t change his tune after the elections. He did however speak out against booster shots, which was interesting. On the other hand, when asked about vaccine passports during a recent interview he avoided the question.
    Trump also talked about HCQ, which was a sign to me that he's not (or at least then wasn't) in the big pharma gang. The background is that the highly respected journal, the Lancet, published a report that said HCQ was useless against covid, and in fact dangerous. This report stopped official HCQ trials, which were started because HCQ had shown amazing results curing covid. The Lancet retracted the report shortly after Emergency Use Authorisation (EUA) was granted for the vaccines; it turned out the report's findings were made up. If the HCQ trials were allowed to continue then we wouldn't even need emergency vaccinations because there wouldn't be an emergency.

    So Trump talked about HCQ but he didn't pick up on the Lancet's retraction. The Lancet retracted that report over a year ago now, it's the smoking gun imo, more so than Ivermectin. I'm remembering that world leaders who went against the global covid narrative died, and others like Trump were hospitalised. I suspect the ones who died were assassinated and those world leaders that were hospitalised because of covid were being threatened, - my guess

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