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    How did the world’s get so divided and how did so much hate enter society? It seemed to have arrived on our doorstep with a resounding thud but that is not how it happened. To paraphrase a great American writer—slowly, then suddenly. Social justice ideology has been taught at universities around the world for decades. When enough social justice ideologues had graduated with straight A's in race, gender, and victimhood they decided that they knew what was best for the world.

    They learned well that opposing viewpoints should not be tolerated and they also learned that race and to lesser extent sex are powerful weapons. Bringing race or sex into the discussion immediately stops the dialogue and paralyzes the opposition. It has been and continues to be a masterful stroke because leaving the racist or sexist moniker unchallenged does the intended damage and defending the racist or sexist title makes one look guilty as hell. The beauty of this warfare is that there are plenty of real racists and sexists to go around so no one really knows if the handle fits or if it is being used as a means to crush an enemy. It also allows organized groups to burn cities, destroy businesses, damage property and even commit murder without any reprisal whatsoever. In a word it's genius.


    Peter Boghossian does an excellent job explaining how we got here.
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    Here is a story about Professor Peter Boghossian, he wrote a resignation letter to Provost Susan Jeffords at Portland State University which accurately describes the state of almost all Universities. It should be a wake-up call.

    A Portland State University philosophy professor is resigning from his position after the university “Sacrificed Ideas For Ideology.”

    In a scathing letter to the university’s Provost Susan Jeffords disseminated through former NYTimes Editor Bari Weiss’s substack, Peter Boghossian explained that the academic institution’s unwillingness to accept free thinking is harming education.

    Boghossian first joined PSU more than 10 years ago. During his time teaching, Boghossian explained that he often invited guest speakers to campus “not because I agreed with their worldviews, but primarily because I didn’t.”

    “From those messy and difficult conversations, I’ve seen the best of what our students can achieve: questioning beliefs while respecting believers; staying even-tempered in challenging circumstances; and even changing their minds,” he wrote. “I never once believed — nor do I know — that the purpose of instruction was to lead my students to a particular conclusion. Rather, I sought to create the conditions for rigorous thought; to help them gain the tools to hunt and furrow for their own conclusions. This is why I became a teacher and why I love teaching.”



    Over the years, however, Boghossian said that “the university has made this kind of intellectual exploration impossible” and “transformed a bastion of free inquiry into a Social Justice factory whose only inputs were race, gender, and victimhood and whose only outputs were grievance and division.”

    “Students at Portland State are not being taught to think. Rather, they are being trained to mimic the moral certainty of ideologues. Faculty and administrators have abdicated the university’s truth-seeking mission and instead drive intolerance of divergent beliefs and opinions. This has created a culture of offense where students are now afraid to speak openly and honestly,” he continued.

    Under the guise of fighting off “microaggressions” and “bigotry” on campus, the professor said PSU systemically sacrificed free-thinking and dialogue. When he called attention to the “incidents of illiberalism” and began asking the administration hard questions about their lurch toward homogenous thinking, Boghossian was met with “retaliation” and an investigation into whether he was “beating my wife and children.”

    The university’s investigation found nothing to back up the claim, but the professor said there was “no apology for the false accusations.” Instead, Boghossian was told he “was not allowed to render my opinion about ‘protected classes’ or teach in such a way that my opinion about protected classes could be known — a bizarre conclusion to absurd charges.”

    “Universities can enforce ideological conformity just through the threat of these investigations,” he warned. “I eventually became convinced that corrupted bodies of scholarship were responsible for justifying radical departures from the traditional role of liberal arts schools and basic civility on campus. There was an urgent need to demonstrate that morally fashionable papers — no matter how absurd — could be published. I believed then that if I exposed the theoretical flaws of this body of literature, I could help the university community avoid building edifices on such shaky ground.”

    Boghossian’s attempts to draw attention to this phenomenon through an “intentionally garbled peer-reviewed paper that took aim at the new orthodoxy” were only met with more vandalism and physical pushback from students and the university without any consequences.

    “Shortly thereafter, swastikas in the bathroom with my name under them began appearing in two bathrooms near the philosophy department. They also occasionally showed up on my office door, in one instance accompanied by bags of feces. Our university remained silent. When it acted, it was against me, not the perpetrators,” the professor wrote.

    Boghossian said this series of events pushed him to realize that “every idea that has advanced human freedom has always, and without fail, been initially condemned.”

    “Portland State University has failed in fulfilling this duty. In doing so it has failed not only its students but the public that supports it. While I am grateful for the opportunity to have taught at Portland State for over a decade, it has become clear to me that this institution is no place for people who intend to think freely and explore ideas,” Boghossian concluded. “This is not the outcome I wanted. But I feel morally obligated to make this choice. For ten years, I have taught my students the importance of living by your principles. One of mine is to defend our system of liberal education from those who seek to destroy it. Who would I be if I didn’t?”

    Source: https://thefederalist.com/2021/09/08...IiESPJCkhTz7_Y
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    Default Re: How Did We Arrive In A World So Full Of Hate And Division?

    We were all human until: Religion separated us, Politics divided us, Wealth classified us and Race disconnected us.

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    Clif High has been providing some great insights in his videos, the latest one here: https://www.bitchute.com/video/7h59e5VRG2cA/
    Each breath a gift...
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    Boghossian is a hero. If everyone stood up against this lunacy at once he wouldn't need to sacrifice his job. As it stands now, whoever sticks their head above the parapet first gets walloped. The biggest crisis in this country isn't "systemic racism" or "rape culture" or whatever pseudo grievance is currently being shat out by the woke (or the neurotic tribe of the lost as I prefer to call them). The biggest crisis is systemic cowardice.

    In this inverted, post-truth world, weakness is the new strength. Cowardice is the new bravery. Fascism is the new anti-fascism. Lies are the new truth. Exclusivity is the new diversity. ...Hate is the new love

    Questioning this lunacy in a sane world would make one a hero. In an insane world it gets you fired, or forces you to resign. Such is the fate of Boghossian.

    He'll land on his feet though. He's a brilliant dude that was way underutilized at Portland State anyway. I'm a big fan of his and I can't wait to see what he does next.
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    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Boghossian is a hero. If everyone stood up against this lunacy at once he wouldn't need to sacrifice his job. As it stands now, whoever sticks their head above the parapet first gets walloped. The biggest crisis in this country isn't "systemic racism" or "rape culture" or whatever pseudo grievance is currently being shat out by the woke (or the neurotic tribe of the lost as I prefer to call them). The biggest crisis is systemic cowardice.

    In this inverted, post-truth world, weakness is the new strength. Cowardice is the new bravery. Fascism is the new anti-fascism. Lies are the new truth. Exclusivity is the new diversity. ...Hate is the new love

    Questioning this lunacy in a sane world would make one a hero. In an insane world it gets you fired, or forces you to resign. Such is the fate of Boghossian.

    He'll land on his feet though. He's a brilliant dude that was way underutilized at Portland State anyway. I'm a big fan of his and I can't wait to see what he does next.
    I do have to say, Mike. That was so right on that it is brilliant. I have now adopted your term "systemic cowardice". The one good thing for me about all this is it has made me determined and stubbornly so, not to put my head in the sand anymore, I don't want to die a friggin coward.

    I think Boghossian deserves a bigger audience then the victims at portland state. We need him to bring some sanity back in the world.
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    What we now know & understand of all the above ... is a very different deep insight/understanding than lets say 20 years ago when 9/11 just happened.

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    I watched half of this video yesterday, and it very much ties into the long-term agenda and how it quietly crept into the educational system of the US.


    The Scientific Destruction Of Minds & Secret History of Western Education by Charlotte Iserbyt

    Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt served as the head of policy at the Department of Education during the first administration of Ronald Reagan. While working there she discovered a long term strategic plan by the tax exempt foundations to transform America from a nation of rugged individualists and problem solvers to a country of servile, brainwashed minions who simply regurgitate whatever they're told.

    Exclusive interview with Iserbyt breaks down how conditioning/training under a corporate agenda has replaced traditional education, leading to a deliberate dumbing down of Americans. Iserbyt further explains how Reagan signed agreements merging the U.S. and Soviet systems under the United Nations banner, turning over education and many other areas of public policy to global control.

    This is a must see for anyone who wants to truly know why the education system is deliberately crafted to produce human drones with no critical thinking whose only skills are to be subservient, trust authority and follow orders.

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    Quote Posted by GMB1961 (here)
    We were all human until: Religion separated us, Politics divided us, Wealth classified us and Race disconnected us.
    I don't think I agree with that statement. We used to be able to have different religious beliefs and different politics and opinions but no more. There have always been wealth and race differences but again, this is different. This is pure hate. Deep hate. Hate so deep that people think you should die for thinking different. Humanity has run it's course and is now imploding.
    "If the doors of perception were cleansed everything would appear to man as it is, Infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things thro' narrow chinks of his cavern.” William Blake

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    Quote Posted by Karen (Geophyz) (here)
    This is pure hate. Deep hate. Hate so deep that people think you should die for thinking different.
    Yep. Here's an example. This kind of poison, targeted at people the guy doesn't even know, is pretty hard to understand.

    My best guess is that something has happened to some people that they're quite unaware of, and in some sense — metaphorical or literal — they are no longer themselves.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Karen (Geophyz) (here)
    This is pure hate. Deep hate. Hate so deep that people think you should die for thinking different.
    Yep. Here's an example. This kind of poison, targeted at people the guy doesn't even know, is pretty hard to understand.

    My best guess is that something has happened to some people that they're quite unaware of, and in some sense — metaphorical or literal — they are no longer themselves.

    Wow. Classy!

    My opinion: In the case of covid and vaccines: for the average person to accept that they've been lied to and manipulated on such a huge scale would also require them to question pretty much everything they ever regarded as true. Because if the president is lying and manipulating, and the doctors, the politicians, the community leaders, and anyone else who's regarded as a respectable authority...who's left? What's left?

    It too traumatic for most, too emotionally challenging, too mind blowing, too everything! Some flat out don't have the capacity for it and the one's that do are too weary and scared to grapple with it. Much easier to remain in denial and return to their cozy lives. The ferocious denial and cruelty are the death throes of an overwhelmed system fighting to keep it's head in the sand. The irrationality is, ironically, a last gasp attempt at preserving their sanity.

    I think precious few want true autonomy and sovereignty. The personal responsibility it requires is too much. Too many fall into existential crisis mode

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    Some of us have been saying this very same thing since we've been old enough to reason...
    Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless — like water...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend. Bruce Lee

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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    Some of us have been saying this very same thing since we've been old enough to reason...

    How old were you when you had these revelations? Sh!t I couldn't do much coherent reasoning till I was about 30 maybe Even now it's a struggle. The propoganda machine, the poisoned air, water, food, and the pressure to conform is ever present and I will unknowingly slip into sleep mode here n there. Sometimes I'll catch myself saying or thinking things that aren't my words or thoughts at all.

    I need to listen to things over and over and over for it to really settle in. And I've done that with Boghossian. But even then I'll still sometimes forget why I feel this way or that way, and I have to articulate it back to myself repetitively. The forum is useful for that sort of thing. Writing helps. I got allergy shots weekly as a kid, which are basically vaccines. So I was vaccinated weekly over about a 10 year period. No wonder I can't think straight.

    I look at that avatar pic of me as a little boy and I wish I could help him avoid all that. On the bright side, I'm glad I was born in 1977 and not, say, 10 or 15 years later. I was a pretty kid and my Mom was frequently complimented on her "beautiful little daughter". Had I been born in the 90's I might be a dickless eunuch by now, wearing a rainbow patterned skirt to some gender bender parade, bleating out mindless propoganda while scratching my mutilated "vagina". These are the types of freaks Boghossian is up against. Reasonable people have very little chance at university

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    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    I'm glad I was born in 1977 and not, say, 10 or 15 years later. I was a pretty kid and my Mom was frequently complimented on her "beautiful little daughter". Had I been born in the 90's I might be a dickless eunuch by now, wearing a rainbow patterned skirt to some gender bender parade, bleating out mindless propoganda while scratching my mutilated "vagina".
    Disturbing visual Mike, but highly entertaining as usual. Nice to have a good chuckle after a long day!


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    My best guess is that something has happened to some people that they're quite unaware of, and in some sense — metaphorical or literal — they are no longer themselves.
    Many of these people referred to in the original post are now in the workforce. Some have gone into publishing and they have prevented books from being published. Some have gone into journalism and they have had editors fired for not being radical enough. They have fanned out into every walk of life. Many are on social media wishing harm or even death to those that don't agree with them. Sadly many of these people have gone into teaching and they are indoctrinating our children starting in preschool.

    I honestly think many people have had a psychotic break losing contact with reality.

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    Quote Posted by rgray222 (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    My best guess is that something has happened to some people that they're quite unaware of, and in some sense — metaphorical or literal — they are no longer themselves.
    Many of these people referred to in the original post are now in the workforce. Some have gone into publishing and they have prevented books from being published. Some have gone into journalism and they have had editors fired for not being radical enough. They have fanned out into every walk of life. Many are on social media wishing harm or even death to those that don't agree with them. Sadly many of these people have gone into teaching and they are indoctrinating our children starting in preschool.

    I honestly think many people have had a psychotic break losing contact with reality.


    It's spreading...sort of like a virus

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    Hi rgray222

    Thank you for your post and sharing these information.

    Well, as a Chinese, I will say: Because of my past lives lead to my present life, it is called Karma.

    I don't like the society, either. Not only you, in western countries, China is too. Always full of negative news, I seldom see any nice reports which I like.

    And especially now, I want to say some truth, but "they" don't agree.

    Quote How did the world’s get so divided and how did so much hate enter society?
    In my opinion: we are born in the soceity of patriarchal control which is also called as Satan's World.

    From the Bible, we can know something:

    Matthew 4:8

    Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.

    Matthew 4:9

    "All this I will give you," he said, "if you will bow down and worship me."




    Quote Posted by GMB1961 (here)
    We were all human until: Religion separated us, Politics divided us, Wealth classified us and Race disconnected us.
    I agree with GMB1961, religion make us to believe in different "god", and then "fight" with each other's belief. Politics stops us to become one family. Wealth classified pushes us make money and even become the Money or Pressure victims. And Race, or the different color totally separate us. In my beliefs and my eyes and heart, WE ARE TRUE ONE UNDER ONE UNIVERSAL CREATOR.

    Hope we can use our mind and our soul and our energy to create a new "universe".
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    My best guess is that something has happened to some people that they're quite unaware of, and in some sense — metaphorical or literal — they are no longer themselves.
    Many of these people referred to in the original post are now in the workforce. Some have gone into publishing and they have prevented books from being published. Some have gone into journalism and they have had editors fired for not being radical enough. They have fanned out into every walk of life. Many are on social media wishing harm or even death to those that don't agree with them. Sadly many of these people have gone into teaching and they are indoctrinating our children starting in preschool.

    I honestly think many people have had a psychotic break losing contact with reality.
    You're right. I am also diagnosed with schizophrenia by the mental hospital in my hometwon.

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    Quote Posted by Karen (Geophyz) (here)
    Quote Posted by GMB1961 (here)
    We were all human until: Religion separated us, Politics divided us, Wealth classified us and Race disconnected us.
    I don't think I agree with that statement. We used to be able to have different religious beliefs and different politics and opinions but no more. There have always been wealth and race differences but again, this is different. This is pure hate. Deep hate. Hate so deep that people think you should die for thinking different. Humanity has run it's course and is now imploding.
    There's truth there from both of you; look a few centuries back before the Enlightenment at the religious divisions and the hatred and bloodshed that ensued.

    It's true that this rabid hatred has arisen very recently. I've learnt in recent years that some of my old school friends were Catholic, some Non-Conformist, one was Muslim - I didn't know that at school. It wasn't something that was discussed as it didn't matter. You formed an impression of your school friends on their personality.

    My grandfather was a dyed-in-the-wool Tory, his brother was a Labour councillor. They were good friends throughout their lives.

    The rise of social media, IMO, has changed things for the worse. You can be as strident and obnoxious as you like with a degree of anonymity, hardly anyone knows where you live and you don't have to deal with the consequences of dealing with conflict face to face. That's now led to a mass of people who don't know how to rein in their emotions and can't deal with opposing views.

    Also, of course, as this thread points out in the first place, there's the woke education system. I did some university study in the early 90s and then again in the mid-2000s and the rot had set in during those years.

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    Quote How did the world’s get so divided and how did so much hate enter society?
    Who said this was new? It seems as if this has been happening right from way before "we" were here, or able to "understand that we exist", otherwise known as consciousness or whatever is used to define it

    Everything after that derives from the idea that "we" are separate somehow from "them", whoever/whatever "them" others are. We are not, we are just using a different system that makes sense to us

    We did not arrive to this situation, we were on it all along, right from the beginning of civilization

    It just happens that recently 'we' found out that we have been here all along and had not noticed the ways it works, or the ways we developed our reality around us, and started inspect it ourselves. Because i bet a fish or a bear or a lynx could not care less about how much the Oil per barrel will cost tomorrow But we do! That's "artificial meaning" and it means nothing once you fall on the bathroom and break your neck because you stepped on the soap bar

    Social constructs and all that. And then, who said that was the final truth? And it had to be what sets the "rules of this world", who said that? I never learned who was the final master of the truth anywhere, school or outside, except for what they want to push into your head, as of how the 'world works'.

    School is "We said so", work is "we said so", parenting is "we said so"

    Quote I never once believed — nor do I know — that the purpose of instruction was to lead my students to a particular conclusion. Rather, I sought to create the conditions for rigorous thought; to help them gain the tools to hunt and furrow for their own conclusions. This is why I became a teacher and why I love teaching
    How do you pick up a spoon? Do you use your left or your right hand? Do you know the order of placing them on the table, is it right or left way? Which hand you do use to pick up the wine and which one to pick up the water cup? Are your cups ordered in front of you so you go from 'the far out to the far in' or "outwards to inwards'?

    Are you going to put the knife and fork on the side or in the middle of the plate, or outside the plate? After you are done eating? And if in the middle of the plate, in which direction? Towards the guest or sideways? It's important because one may say "thanks i'm done and enjoyed it" and the other may be "you suck at having people over, this was nasty, i can't take it anymore", which representes what? But all with smiles all over the place. We are like that, right?

    "We"

    Yes.. "We"

    Rules and rules, even when you are teaching to not have some certain rules, you still teach rules, that all i would say to that guy in the OP video

    "Rules", just the ones that you understand better and like the most. But in the end.. "Rules"

    Even telling someone "Don't follow rules!" is a life rule.. lmfao!
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    From the moment the most basic of rules gets detached from the basic moral value and is put into words, it becomes open to interpretation and corruption of it's meaning. Which makes it completely useless to it's only purpose.

    "Calligraphed sins are like a coat of arms. Hollow. "

    "When the state is most corrupt, then the laws are most multiplied. " - Tacitus

    Happened since forever, therefore, it is not possible to make "everyone become one" like that, but to embrace the differences and goodwillingly jump into the chaos pool of humanity. Then, if everyone does it altruistically, we may get to a point where we will actually end up united.

    Then we could discuss if it is possible inside human nature. Anyways, the only way to get closer to it, is to sincerely improve oneself instead of trying to change others. There will always be division, but the point is to embrace it, not to fight it.
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