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    I do think Avalon needs an ABBA thread. But for those reading this who might quickly be dismissive, hang on just a moment and read on — because something very remarkable has happened.

    Nearly 40 years after their breakup in 1982, and the release of their last song, they've regrouped not only to record a new album but to retro-digitize themselves visually back into their younger selves.

    I'd heard about this new release (I'm an unashamed aficionado of their music, which was almost always ingenious and creative, and the girls' voices were absolutely always just something else) — but I was quite unprepared for the video. Here it is below, their first new release.

    And here's what's to bear in mind: These four are all in their 70s now. Frida, who leads the vocals in their new number, is 75. (Seventy-five!) Go figure. This can only be admired.

    One YouTube comment, with 25,000 likes:
    And when the world needed them most, they returned.
    Another:
    I’m a 58 year old retired US Army Paratrooper, and I just listened to your song, ”I still have faith in you”. I’m crying like a small child.
    I can understand why. It's a good song, vintage ABBA to its core. As is the case with so many of their songs, it gets better and better each time you hear it through.

    And at 3:40, when the digital curtain rises on their time-traveled selves, I was quite taken aback. The retro-recreation isn't 100.00% perfect, but it was good enough to totally stop me in my tracks. It really did leave me staring at the screen while I was processing what I was seeing.


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    Ha! That's remarkable!

    And as a sidenote: Aside from 'Dancing Queen', I think that's the only other ABBA song I've ever listened to start to finsh. Not because I don't like them, but because I've never really been exposed to them. Not your average pop song here. It's very layered and dramatic, and the voices are great.
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    They were considered uncool by a lot of people back in the 70s, but to me they bring back memories of my teens, my great friends, and having fun and getting up to mischief during long, hot summers. Good times!

    The Eurovision song contest seemed to be essential viewing back then - there were only 3 TV channels at that time in Britain, so not much viewing choice - and I remember watching them win with the song Waterloo.

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    Ok wow. I'm not particularly into ABBA but it's always been impossible not to appreciate how good the songs are and the music and how much joy they bring to people.

    So... I was NOT expecting to break out into goose bump euphoria watching this. Ha! Amazing! If it be cheese then let it be the most glorious and remarkable kind. A song of our times! We DO have it on is!!

    🙂 Thanks Bill 🙂


    ***Edit** We have it in us but I am NOT taking about certain weird medical interventions by injection... they don't belong here 👍
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    I love Abba. I suggested "Knowing Me, Knowing You" as a song for Lefty Dave. I don't think he was too keen on the idea.

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    Quote Posted by Brigantia (here)
    They were considered uncool by a lot of people back in the 70s
    Pete Townshend of The Who confessed a lovely story. He heard SOS (video here) on the radio when it first came out, and absolutely dug it. "And then", he said, "I realized it was Abba. But it was too late. I was already transported by the song."

    For Mike, who may not be familiar with their best numbers: many of them are intricate, extremely clever, full of surprising rhythms and unexpected melodies, and musically they're of the very highest quality.

    Listen to Chiquitita (video here) and then figure out how the heck it was put together. And maybe listen to the words of Knowing Me, Knowing You (video here), which has been described as the most mature breakup song ever written.

    They really were (and are!) highly gifted professionals. In a recent interview, Benny said that when they came back together in the studio after 39 years, after just a few minutes it was like they'd never been apart. "I didn't even know if the girls could still sing', he said. "But yes, they can."
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    Oh wow you little ripper.  Giddy with excitement.  Thanks for this Bill.

    Huge Abba fan.  Funnily enough my kids actually got into them too.  No doubt learning word for word over the years from mum belting out a dreadful rendition whenever they played in the car on our long road trips.

    My parents took me to their 1977 Australian Tour concert in Perth, Western Australia. A 1000km drive from where we lived in Carnarvon.  I was 13.  And yes, I cried happy, happy, tears.

    Dad always regretted not letting me run down the aisle just before they finished so I could be one of the first at the stage to shake their hands.  He held me back coz he was worried about "breaking the rules" and then realised my intuition to get there before everyone else was bang on.

    Wasn't worth going then as the crowd was too deep.  But no regrets.  It was Magical.

    Couldn't wait for the ABC's "Countdown" top ten music show each week to watch them stay No. 1 for weeks at a time.  No commercial tv where we lived, heck I remember it going from b&w to colour.

    Almost too excited to press play and watch this, so gonna sit quietly now and give them all my attention.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    I do think Avalon needs an ABBA thread. But for those reading this who might quickly be dismissive, hang on just a moment and read on — because something very remarkable has happened.
    Almost 20 million views in 11 days. (source)

    "I Still Have Faith In You"

    I still have faith in you
    I see it now
    Through all these years that faith lives on, somehow

    There was a union
    Of heart and mind
    The likes of which are rare and oh so hard to find

    Do I have it in me?
    I believe it is in there
    For I know I hear a bittersweet song
    In the memories we share

    I still have faith in you
    And I will say
    I never really thought I'd feel this way

    But I remind myself
    Of who we are
    How inconceivable it is to reach this far

    Do I have it in me?
    I believe it is in there
    For I know I hear a bittersweet song
    In the memories we share

    We do have it in us
    New spirit has arrived
    The joy and the sorrow
    We have a story
    And it survived

    And we need one another
    Like fighters in a ring
    We're in this together
    Passion and courage
    Is everything

    I still have faith in you
    It stands above the crazy things we did
    It all comes down to love

    Do I have it in me?
    I believe it is in there
    For I know I hear a bittersweet song
    In the memories we share
    Do I have it in me?

    We do have it in us
    New spirit has arrived
    The joy and the sorrow
    We have a story
    And it survived

    And we know that we need one another
    Like fighters in a ring
    We're in this together
    Passion and courage
    Is everything

    (I still have faith in you)
    And we still have it in us
    We've only just arrived
    (Do I have it in me?)
    We stand on a summit
    Humble and grateful
    To have survived

    I still have faith in you
    It stands above the crazy things we did
    It all comes down to love
    Do I have it in me?

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    Quote Posted by Gemma13 (here)

    Almost too excited to press play and watch this, so gonna sit quietly now and give them all my attention.
    It's remarkably good, isn't it? It stands right alongside their best from 40 years ago. Clearly, they can still deliver what they always did.

    And like so much of their work, with this new song you appreciate it more each time you hear it. It 'sticks'. And OMG, here they are, all in their 70s. I know many performers from that era are still around, many with solo careers or multiply changed versions of the same band, but this is exactly the same four. There was never anyone else.

    And I totally bet it makes you cry again.

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    Why did Abba break up? The double divorce that kept them apart almost 40 years
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    From teenage sweethearts, Eurovision winners, then global superstars to two divorces and and perhaps one of the rawest break up songs of all time - ‘The Winner Takes It All’ .

    Abba famously turned down a lot of Money, Money, Money ($1billion to be precise) to reunite but refused to do so for almost four decades.

    The Swedish icons have sold some 385 million records worldwide, making them one of Universal Music’s biggest artists.

    They have now agreed to perform together again with a gig at London’s Olympic Park and new singles I Still Have Faith In You and Don’t Shut Me Down.

    But with so much success why did Abba break up in the first place?

    Abba was made up of two sets of couples. Agnetha Fältskog was married to Björn Ulvaeus and Benny Andersson to Anni-Frid Lyngstad.

    At the height of Abba’s fame both couples divorced, one in 1980 and the other a year later.

    The band went their separate ways in 1982, with Agnetha admitting she found it hard being in the band after her break-up.

    Agnetha fell in love with Bjorn at 19, after meeting him in a cafe. They were married in 1971 and Abba won Eurovision in 1974.

    She told the Standard she was emotionally ‘mangled’ by the split with Bjorn, who was the father of her two children.

    Within a week of their divorce, Bjorn had a new girlfriend and Agnetha had counselling.

    Abba’s hit The Winner Takes It All was written during this period and Agnetha said she found it hard to find the emotional strength to sing: “Tell me does she kiss/Like I used to kiss you?”

    Speaking about the song in 2013, Agnetha said: “Björn wrote it about us after the breakdown of our marriage. The fact he wrote it exactly when we divorced is touching really.

    “I didn’t mind. It was fantastic to do that song because I could put in such feeling.

    “I didn’t mind sharing it with the public. It didn’t feel wrong. There is so much in that song. It was a mixture of what I felt and what Björn felt but also what Benny and Frida went through.”

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    Sneak peek into ABBA's new album and concert (7:24 min)
    • @2:51 - A snippet of the interview.

    Here’s the full show/documentary.

    ABBA Voyage - LIVE
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    ABBA ARE BACK with Voyage!

    A brand new album out November 5 and revolutionary concert coming to London Spring 2022. Listen to two brand new songs and pre-order the album from the official store for first access to tickets.

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    Quote They have now agreed to perform together again with a gig at London’s Olympic Park and new singles I Still Have Faith In You and Don’t Shut Me Down.
    DON'T SHUT ME DOWN (3:57 min)

    [Verse 1]

    A while ago, I heard the sound of children's laughter
    Now it's quiet, so I guess they left the park
    This wooden bench is getting harder by the hour
    The sun is going down, it's getting dark
    I realise I'm cold, the rain begins to pour
    As I watch the windows on the second floor
    The lights are on, it's time to go
    It's time at last to let him know

    [Verse 2]

    I believe it would be fair to say
    You look bewildered
    And you wonder why I'm here today
    And so you should, I would
    When I left, I felt I'd had еnough
    But in the shape and form I appear now
    I havе learned to cope
    And love and hope is why I am here now

    [Chorus]

    And now you see another me, I've been reloaded, yeah
    I'm fired up, don't shut me down
    I'm like a dream within a dream that's been decoded
    I'm fired up, I'm hot, don't shut me down
    I'm not the one you knew
    I'm now and then combined
    And I'm asking you to have an open mind (And I won't be the same)
    I'm not the same this time around (Ooh)
    I'm fired up, don't shut me down

    [Verse 3]

    Will you leave me standing in the hall
    Or let me enter?
    The apartment hasn't changed at all
    I got to say I'm glad
    Once these rooms were witness to our love
    My tantrums and increasing frustration
    But I go from mad
    To not so bad in my transformation (So now)

    [Chorus]

    And now you see another me, I've been reloaded, yeah
    I'm fired up, don't shut me down (Don't shut me down)
    I'm like a dream within a dream that's been decoded
    I'm fired up, I'm hot, don't shut me down
    I am not the one you knew (I'm not the one you knew)
    I'm now and then combined
    And I'm asking you to have an open mind (And I won't be the same)
    I'm not the same this time around (Ooh)
    I'm fired up, don't shut me down

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    And I love you still and so I won't pretend
    I have learned to cope
    And love and hope is why I am here now

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    This was fun to watch. This is a music critic, with a new channel, recording himself in real time listening to new songs for the very first time.

    He's clearly a sensitive guy, instantly likable, and after an intro of genuine appreciation and gratitude for his followers he starts in at 2:00, truly not knowing what to expect.

    The poor guy is so blown away he nearly comes right apart. To his immense credit, he has the courage to publish the video.

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    Pure joy and goosebumps from these vids. So beautiful to hear that celestial sound. Reminds me of the Andrews Sisters Perfection. Should we be thanking the Nordics for this team

    Can't have an Abba thread without this flashback legend. Still can't listen and sing to Fernando without popping up them goosebumps. Almost as much as Last of the Mohicans.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dQsjAbZDx-4

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    Reading the title of the thread, I thought someone's father or grandfather got 40 years younger as a miracle and this thread includes his story.

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    The two songs are soooooo great. Cannot wait to hear all the album. I can say all their old songs are like a soundtrack of my life. Remember when in college in Boston going to their first USA concert in 1979. There was a storm and their plane was delayed and we waited for hours but they delivered. The voices sound a little different to my ears. When the women sing individually . More mature? Just my take.
    PD : as Bill said, the more you hear, the better you like the songs. I had them on a loop last night.
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    Quote Posted by kanishk (here)
    Reading the title of the thread, I thought someone's father or grandfather got 40 years younger as a miracle and this thread includes his story.
    Well, one could say it's a time-travel miracle of a different kind.

    Another confession, not from The Who's Pete Townshend (see this post), but from myself. After stumbling on the reaction video I shared above, where the poor guy came right apart on camera in real time, I went in search of a couple more. And then I couldn't stop, because they were all just so very fascinating from every human aspect one can think of.

    Most reviewers found themselves in on-camera tears that totally took them by surprise. Some just lost it completely and had to cut the video to pull themselves together. One of them spontaneously exclaimed, right at the start: "They sound the same !!!" (And they do. )

    A couple never even realized the stage performance at the end was a digital recreation, and one, totally confused, thought it somehow had to have been an old video. The sheer astonishment, delight and wide-eyed wonder captured on the reviewers' faces was captivating to watch.

    For those who may be unfamiliar, this is what Abba actually did to people.... there was some kind of magic in there. Many have spoken about it, and it's not easy to pinpoint. It was more than just catchy 'pop music'. The girls' harmonies, when they hit it just right, were often described as angelic.

    And then I started reading the comments. There are thousands and thousands. Many of them confessed to tears every time they heard the song. Many also remembered friends and family, sometimes their parents, who loved Abba as much as they always had, but who have now passed on and never lived to see the comeback that no-one had ever expected.

    And now, with all that, I've heard the song maybe 20 times or more. I can absolutely confirm that it grows and builds each time. In my first post, I wrote (rather sparingly!) "It's a good song, vintage ABBA to its core."

    But many of the commenters describe it as a 'masterpiece', one of their very best even after all these years. I'm feeling that could well be true. I'm trying to stay grounded here (it's way way past my bedtime ), but I'm starting to agree this is something really rather unusual and special.

    The most important thing may be what many of the commenters said, all independently (on different channels), and in slightly different ways:
    This is an anthem for humanity. At exactly the right time.
    I really think it might be. It's clearly had a huge effect all round the world, like some kind of rapidly growing morphic field. In just a few days, hundreds of thousands of people of all ages, maybe millions, have been knocked right off their feet by this.

    I have to take myself to bed right now, or I risk losing balance completely. I'll take stock again in the morning, after two strong cups of — and see if I still feel the same in the cold light of day.


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    That’s quite amazing! And also scary how good CGI has become.

    My first album was ABBA, many a memory as a child trying to make my mums flares and platform boots fit me to re enact their dance routines

    Some music is just unique...you actually feel it in your heart chakra, like it’s literally opening it up and clearing the blocks.
    All ABBAs songs do that 💫

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    As a 80's child who was into heavy metal and especially NWOBHM (New Wave of British Heavy Metal) ABBA was always too cheesy for me & my friends.

    But I really liked this song and can totally understand the guy in the reaction video Bill posted above. By the way it seems 2021 is the year of great comebacks, as Iron Maiden and The Stranglers released new albums. I can't sayI totally liked Iron Maiden's new album but The Stranglers album Dark Matters is something else. Old schoolers should check it out too!



    PS: The clip stars Stuart Pearce, England's legendary No.3!

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