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    Lightbulb Sci Fi world? NEW SOCIETAL/POLITICAL SYSTEM: Were in a point in time where we can think of and decide on where our future is heading

    I know a lot of people are now focussed on wanting a different world by erasing the evil of this world. And for sure the quest for a more just and balanced world is one of the most important quests of this time.

    But whether or not people are capable of doing a successful surgery of the evil on this planet or whether it will just create a dark bloodbath

    I noticed none of these people really have a vision/focus of how they want the world to be different. And if this continues to be the case I fear that all their efforts and desires for changing this world to a better, more just, place will just go to waste and their no vision will manifest in an equally distorted world.

    For sure some kind of Sci Fi world is going to come and we better start focussing on what we want to create as this sci fi world emerges.

    Ive been picking up some info of where different people are propelling our future to head to and I'm writing it out here so ALL PEOPLE can consciously choose where they want to head to instead of drifting to somewhere unknown and then being disappointed that its not what they expected or wanted.

    As I feel it, I think we can choose between:
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    1. A controlled pyramidal order with all current problems
    2. A world where AI has total control ... with all known dangers associated
    3. Chaos (containing violence; injustice & void of any purpose) maybe leading again to pyramidal or totalitarian structures or simply to destruction
    4. A sort of of circular order
    (made of the energy of all the people on this planet; maintained by alignment & merging with higher dimensions)

    These are just the energies of the possible futures for humanity I picked up.

    Maybe there are more possiblities, but I can not feel them now.

    - Id love to hear what you guys think and which type of future you would prefer to see arising.

    - Also if anyone should have picked up any other energies/ideas of what kind of Sci Fi future world we could be heading to or chose from, I would love to hear.





    'Though its mostly the energy and ideas I pick up and try to convey; I also like to think about practical ways and solutions of getting there.

    One of the practical things I've been wondering about is whether there could be a tangibe solution for our current political systems. This due to all the problems and injustice in our political systems. Thus Im wondering if political systems could be organised more like forums where everyone can speak up and where all energy is present and free. And then have a unbiased way to translate all this energy and ideas in to decisions.

    Should this be possible would it be good to let such a system organise society? (Sidenote: I think this type of new system would only be harmonious if all programming through media; schooling etc. would stop & people get deprogrammed in a way they could return to their more natural state ) )




    Well those are just some ideas.


    Love to hear comments.


    Focussing on love.

    All is one
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    like Q says "future proves past".... the future i see is a coming back to what this planet was intended for, so that bright future will prove we were like that before the planet and humanity was high jacked. So it is number 4 for me. Much love
    honoring White Feather: SHIFT HAPPENED

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    Quote Posted by All is one (here)
    I know a lot of people are now focussed on wanting a different world by erasing the evil of this world. And for sure the quest for a more just and balanced world is one of the most important quests of this time.

    But whether or not people are capable of doing a successful surgery of the evil on this planet or whether it will just create a dark bloodbath

    I noticed none of these people really have a vision/focus of how they want the world to be different. And if this continues to be the case I fear that all their efforts and desires for changing this world to a better, more just, place will just go to waste and their no vision will manifest in an equally distorted world.

    For sure some kind of Sci Fi world is going to come and we better start focussing on what we want to create as this sci fi world emerges.

    Ive been picking up some info of where different people are propelling our future to head to and I'm writing it out here so ALL PEOPLE can consciously choose where they want to head to instead of drifting to somewhere unknown and then being disappointed that its not what they expected or wanted.

    As I feel it, I think we can choose between:
    Quote
    1. A controlled pyramidal order with all current problems
    2. A world where AI has total control ... with all known dangers associated
    3. Chaos (containing violence; injustice & void of any purpose) maybe leading again to pyramidal or totalitarian structures or simply to destruction
    4. A sort of of circular order
    (made of the energy of all the people on this planet; maintained by alignment & merging with higher dimensions)

    These are just the energies of the possible futures for humanity I picked up.

    Maybe there are more possiblities, but I can not feel them now.

    - Id love to hear what you guys think and which type of future you would prefer to see arising.

    - Also if anyone should have picked up any other energies/ideas of what kind of Sci Fi future world we could be heading to or chose from, I would love to hear.





    'Though its mostly the energy and ideas I pick up and try to convey; I also like to think about practical ways and solutions of getting there.

    One of the practical things I've been wondering about is whether there could be a tangibe solution for our current political systems. This due to all the problems and injustice in our political systems. Thus Im wondering if political systems could be organised more like forums where everyone can speak up and where all energy is present and free. And then have a unbiased way to translate all this energy and ideas in to decisions.

    Should this be possible would it be good to let such a system organise society? (Sidenote: I think this type of new system would only be harmonious if all programming through media; schooling etc. would stop & people get deprogrammed in a way they could return to their more natural state ) )




    Well those are just some ideas.


    Love to hear comments.


    Focussing on love.

    All is one
    Thanks for you thread. I always loved the stories of the Rainbow tribe which would spontaneously organize around the teachings of the Sacred medicine wheels. Here is a story that is about what I would like to see.

    Quote THE STORY OF TEMPLE DOORS AND THE FOUNDING OF THE EARLY CIVILIZATIONS OF THE SOUTHWEST

    Hyemeyohsts Storm

    Some people have said that a Representative government is what we know to
    be a Democracy. Others say that Freedom is what makes a Democracy. Others
    will insist that Democracy is a balance between State and Church. There
    are also those who say that Democracy is a balance between the rich and the
    poor. And there are those who will claim that Democracy is the balance
    between the learned and the unschooled. The bold say that Democracy is
    tolerance and the acceptance of all races and peoples as being equal.

    The woman known as Temple Doors said all this and more about Democracy
    many hundreds of years ago. She said that in actuality the founding
    principle of a true Democracy was a Representative government that was
    perfectly balanced between female and male, because this Balance is the
    Source of all that is Living and Natural.

    She never used the words Democracy or Democratic, but she did use the
    words Circle of Law.

    By the time Temple Doors was born the great Circles of Democracy - the
    Circle of Law - had been outlawed and forbidden by the new feudalistic
    governing powers. She is the human responsible for the preservation and
    renewal of the Circle of Law throughout the Americas.

    It is important to speak of how the Medicine Wheels came to North America
    from South and Central America, and were kept by the Zero Chiefs.
    According to the records kept by the Flower Soldiers, the weather patterns
    of Mother Earth went through incredible changes. Places that were once
    beautiful plains filled with animals and grass changed over a period of a
    thousand years to become jungles or deserts.

    Five great migrations of people left Central America and settled the
    North; these were called the Great Webs or Spider Roads by the record
    keepers. These large migrations occurred between one thousand and three
    thousand years ago.

    The Spider Woman Keepers are responsible for the information we have of
    these migrations. For simplicity's sake, the name Spider Woman can be
    translated as "Guardian Keeper" or "Corn Carrier." The reason for this is
    because the tradition grew up out of the Gardeners. These women not only
    kept the Gardens, they also kept the history.

    Temple Doors was the Priestess-General responsible for one of the largest
    of the great migrations. She led her people north, out of Central America,
    into what we presently know as our Southwest. This great migration took
    place between two thousand and twenty-five hundred years ago. During this
    journey, half of her people perished from war, disease, and hunger.
    It was this woman General who brought the Great Circle of Law and all the
    Medicine Wheels to the North. She also brought corn, squash, beans, and turkeys.
    Temple Doors was born to the Butterfly People. At this time these people
    controlled the tribal city-states south of Mexico City.

    The hundreds of city-states of the Yucatn had been founded by Tribes of
    many diverse groups and languages. Each city-state had its Great Temple.
    The Center Temple, or Great Temple, was everything to its people because it
    held the distinction of "possessing the Name of the Divine." This meant
    that the Temple was known by the name of the Goddess and God of the
    city-state. Each Temple was the seat of the law, the university, the place
    of records, the treasury, the place of information, the hospital, the war
    academy, and the place of prayer.

    At the time of the birth of Temple Doors, the Mayan city-states had been
    in constant war with each other for nearly three hundred years. The wars
    had started in the aftermath of horrible earthquakes and exploding
    volcanoes that had leveled hundreds of cities and Temples.
    The Lords of the land were brutal men who would stop at nothing to get
    their way. The sacrifice priests taught these Feudal Lords that people
    could be ruled only by fear.

    The Lords, in their turn, taught that only the fang and the tooth of
    experience were understood by "the common people," who were "incapable of
    learning."

    However, the Flower Soldiers taught that human sacrifice and slavery were
    forbidden, and that every human possessed the natural right to have a Voice
    in government. Democracy-the Circle of Law-had been discovered by the Zero
    Chiefs thousands of years before this time and was held to be Sacred by
    every Flower Soldier.

    By the time Temple Doors became the commander of the Flower Soldiers, she
    violently opposed the sacrifice priests of the Temples and Lords who held
    their people in perpetual slavery. A bloody war ensued that lasted five
    years.

    After yet another bitter struggle and more useless bloodshed, the
    courageous Temple Doors decided to lead the Flower Soldiers and any of her
    people who wanted to go with them, north into the "Land of the Wild
    People." In the new land, they could find Freedom and rebuild their
    civilization based on the balance and teachings of the Medicine Wheels.
    Temple Doors led twenty-four thousand people or more, overland, north out
    from the Mayan peninsula, through the length of Mexico and into the
    Southwest of the present-day United States. On this great migration, she
    fought and won many battles and helped her people survive every kind of
    privation and disease.

    Temple Doors was a Priestess and a General. However, her most important
    contribution to the world was the reordering and rebuilding of the
    Discipline of the Flower Soldiers.

    Temple Doors was a very important person in human history. Volumes could
    be written about her by the people of Mexico and we Northerners, and still
    there would be more to say. But time is needed before this will be done.
    The Temple known as Desert Flower is the source of our information
    concerning the early migrations to the North from the Yucatn. This Temple
    is now known as the ruins of Chaco Canyon. The woman who began the
    building of the Desert Flower was the Zero Chief Temple Doors.

    The cities of Chaco Canyon and Canyon de Chelly were built by the people
    who took on the name of their Chief, calling themselves the Temple Doors.
    The sophisticated network of roads, cisterns, forts, Kivas, buildings,
    farms, and pueblos were all built by the people of Temple Doors.


    Temple Doors originally settled many of her armies and peoples at Canyon
    de Chelly. They began building immediately. However, at this same time, a
    dedicated group of highly disciplined and skilled Medicine Soldiers, with
    their General, Temple Doors, began the construction of their Schools and
    Temples at the Desert Flower in Chaco Canyon. Her dream and the dream of
    her apprentices was to build a new civilization based on the teaching of
    the Medicine Wheels and the Circle of Law. The Desert Flower was designed
    to be their first main Center of Teaching and Healing.

    The General lived for many years. It is thought that she was over
    eighty-three at the time of her death.

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    I cannot recall the auithor but there was a journal by a man who fell asleep and woke up in another body in the future.

    Our Earth at that time was run by AI's and everyone lived in floating city states and travel was severely restricted with only short excursions to the natural world. The AI's were served by programmers who were separate from the regular population.

    There was no money, no one owned much of anything and everyone was allocated housing, training etc.

    The AI's did come into contact with aliens but told them they had no interest in dealing with them at all.



    I recalled this story when DAVOS and WEF started revealing their plans......

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    Not exactly on topic, but not exactly off topic either ... Daniel Schmachtenberger on the concept of "emergence" in regards to how we might get from where we are to where we need to be ... its an interesting talk.



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    My answer to Daniel Schmactenberger is, he is starting at the wrong end of creation. It is MIND of the creator, be it AI or some other, that orders and arranges the structure of the creation that we observe, and it is an UNSEEN FIELD which images and constructs the zero field of seen and unseen which is our beheld universe.

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    Quote Posted by All is one (here)
    I know a lot of people are now focussed on wanting a different world by erasing the evil of this world. And for sure the quest for a more just and balanced world is one of the most important quests of this time.

    But whether or not people are capable of doing a successful surgery of the evil on this planet or whether it will just create a dark bloodbath

    I noticed none of these people really have a vision/focus of how they want the world to be different. And if this continues to be the case I fear that all their efforts and desires for changing this world to a better, more just, place will just go to waste and their no vision will manifest in an equally distorted world.

    For sure some kind of Sci Fi world is going to come and we better start focussing on what we want to create as this sci fi world emerges.

    Ive been picking up some info of where different people are propelling our future to head to and I'm writing it out here so ALL PEOPLE can consciously choose where they want to head to instead of drifting to somewhere unknown and then being disappointed that its not what they expected or wanted.

    As I feel it, I think we can choose between:
    Quote
    1. A controlled pyramidal order with all current problems
    2. A world where AI has total control ... with all known dangers associated
    3. Chaos (containing violence; injustice & void of any purpose) maybe leading again to pyramidal or totalitarian structures or simply to destruction
    4. A sort of of circular order
    (made of the energy of all the people on this planet; maintained by alignment & merging with higher dimensions)

    These are just the energies of the possible futures for humanity I picked up.

    Maybe there are more possiblities, but I can not feel them now.

    - Id love to hear what you guys think and which type of future you would prefer to see arising.

    - Also if anyone should have picked up any other energies/ideas of what kind of Sci Fi future world we could be heading to or chose from, I would love to hear.





    'Though its mostly the energy and ideas I pick up and try to convey; I also like to think about practical ways and solutions of getting there.

    One of the practical things I've been wondering about is whether there could be a tangibe solution for our current political systems. This due to all the problems and injustice in our political systems. Thus Im wondering if political systems could be organised more like forums where everyone can speak up and where all energy is present and free. And then have a unbiased way to translate all this energy and ideas in to decisions.

    Should this be possible would it be good to let such a system organise society? (Sidenote: I think this type of new system would only be harmonious if all programming through media; schooling etc. would stop & people get deprogrammed in a way they could return to their more natural state ) )




    Well those are just some ideas.


    Love to hear comments.


    Focussing on love.

    All is one

    The Book 1984 was a profound experience for me. I was an obligitory reader that skimmed books to complete assignments. !984 changed that. Not only did the narrative fascinate me but the nuances of the world, the description of the food they ate, the tedium of their lives became very real to me.

    I spent so many times rereading, then listening to it on audiobook over and over meditating on it and what truths did it hold for us living in the human condition. One day I had what I thought of as the most provound thought or concept of the whole masterful saga. The realization was that all the paranoia, all the monitoring all the compliance were for those that wanted or felt they needed to be in good standing with the party.

    What happened to the the others , the "proles". They were treated as the sort of embecillic masses, but they didn't even apprear to matter much to the party. I remember Winston enjoying listening to one of the proles hanging out her clothes to dry and how he enjoys the music.

    Making a point of stepping out of thes stumbling systems and creating coops for health need, for learning self reliance, the list go on endlessly. These are very real possibilities. Would I be will to open a room in my house to provide basic care, absolutely yes.

    Could we create barn building parties, Yes! And we could enjoy them.

    The story of 1884 was really not about
    Winston,it was about the masses that carried on in abuse, lies and theivery. Do enough of us hold a frequencey where we simply don't need or want these pathetic, cowardly rulers. I see very real possibilities... Let's imagine them.

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    Quote Posted by Pam (here)
    Making a point of stepping out of thes stumbling systems and creating coops for health need, for learning self reliance, the list go on endlessly. These are very real possibilities. Would I be will to open a room in my house to provide basic care, absolutely yes.
    This seems to be a more realistic and attainable option.

    Changing the whole world and how it works seems nearly impossible, some people at least believe they want the world to function the way it does now.

    Stepping outside of "the real world" is not as difficult as some might think, and I see this as something that more people will be doing soon if not tomorrow.

    I've been camping with large groups of people often this summer and when out in the wilderness with no cell phones everything is still perfect. Covid does exist, and it is VERY easy to make real and appreciated contributions to that "world"

    The universe is still perfect as it always has been we might just have to step outside the nightmare that seems to be quickly accelerating in "mainstream society"


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    Quote Posted by amor (here)
    My answer to Daniel Schmactenberger is, he is starting at the wrong end of creation. It is MIND of the creator, be it AI or some other, that orders and arranges the structure of the creation that we observe, and it is an UNSEEN FIELD which images and constructs the zero field of seen and unseen which is our beheld universe.
    I think that's actually what he was implying ... that "emergence" is the closest thing to "magic" that science has on offer as he explicitly states in the first video. He advocates for allowing that emergence to come through us now that we have an bit of understanding of how the universe desires to express itself.
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