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    Default What's up with Trump?

    So, what does everyone think about Trump these days? Still think he's a good guy? I was having niggling doubts for awhile now, especially when vaccines were causing harm and deaths. He claims that he was vaccinated? Remember when he was against vaccines? Remember when he was pushing for Hydroxychloriquine? Even Regeneron? And he felt great, a new man. Was he really sick to begin with? I watched him as he was heading to AF2 to go to the hospital, thinking that something didn't feel right. Sometimes, my intuition knocks me between the eyes. Lots of things just stand out now like photos of him with his daughter, Ivanka sitting on his lap and Epstein right there.


    But after hearing this video and the proofs they were exposing, I have even more doubts than ever.

    It dawned on me one day that Trump is a globalist. Aren't most of those gloalist guys eugenicists? Another light bulb went on for me...

    He talks a good talk at his rallies, but like most ppl in power and politics they have 2 faces and forked tongues. If you watch how he talks, it's right out of Hitler's playbook...

    Sorry everyone. I want to like this guy because I want someone who cares about us and our country. Not be a duped fool to follow blindly. Heck, even other countries like the guy. Shows you that he knows how to manipulate pretty well...

    Anyway, see what you think after hearing what these ppl have to say:

    https://beforeitsnews.com/alternativ...o-3758204.html

    Something else to worry about: Trump is a globalist who has still has control of the military and the nuclear football. Why?

    We've all been asked to "trust the Plan". What is that Plan...? What? Follow blindly to our doom?

    Trump said that "a storm is coming" and "nothing can stop it".... Was he referring to the swamp or the destruction of all of humanity? I sure want truthful answers to that question.

    Because if he's a bad man, then God help us all....

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    Default Re: What's up with Trump?

    My opinion ....

    Trump is not a Globalist...
    Not a eugenicist...
    Not a pedophile...
    Not like Hitler...


    Trump's not perfect - but the reason he was attacked so vehemently on a daily basis by the MSM, Big Tech, the Global Elite etc. was because he was none of the above...

    It's a shame he was so into the 'vaccine' but the pressure was probably really heavy to get him to go in that direction - but he believes in choice not mandates.. and probably got too fixated on the so called 'vaccines' enabling the economy to stay strong..

    I think he was really sick with a virus of some kind but got better quickly...

    With the audits of the (stolen) 2020 election reaching conclusions and Durham actually doing something... there is bound to be a wave of anti Trump propaganda set in motion -

    More than any other world leader Trump was / is a threat to the Elite's Dictatorial Fascist like Global Agenda...

    That's why (IMO) under NO circumstances were they going to let him serve a 2nd term... no matter what had to be done to prevent it...



    I think he is basically a good guy - who loves America and the American People... (and the West and the World in general) but the relentless and ruthless psychological operation against him brainwashed too many people -
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    Default Re: What's up with Trump?

    In my view, best at this point to focus on fixing elections, proving the steal to all awake enough to see the truth, cleaning out the corruption in both parties, the FBI, CIA, Justice Department, and not worry about where Trump belongs in this nations' history books or future.

    Without free and accurate elections nothing ever can or will change for what's left of the USA.
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    Default Re: What's up with Trump?

    The decisive thing is that he does not promote vax mandates but vax free choice. That is still a difference. What he personally prefers is up to him although I heard he was always critical of the vax industry and vax because it is rumoured his own son was vax damaged.

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    Default Re: What's up with Trump?

    I wrote the following three years ago

    “My take is that our establishment has calculated that wikileaks and other leaks have the power to bring them down. They therefore decided to try to hijack and control the awakening in order to preserve THEIR OWN POWER POSITION. This will entail TPTB throwing some of the nastiest tyrants under the bus. As we see this happen (and applaud it) we could make the mistake of thinking Q is good or acting in our interests. Better to remain suspicious, but grateful for progress which is coming. Another indicator that all is not right is that we talk about grabbing the pop corn (sitting it out) rather than taking personal and collective action to achieve change. Nevertheless some good stuff happening. Awareness is the key.”


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    So there are two scenarios , in both cases DJT plays the role of the fascinator or distractor projecting from the head of that fish .

    In the positive scenario or possibility the deep state warmongering tech elite think that Trump retaining presidential power is paramount to the white hat agenda . They therefore fatally expose themselves in a desperate attempt to remove him at all costs - and get devoured as the people see their machinations and immorality for what they are.

    In the negative scenario he is just mr divisive and mr controversial’ but wins popularity because he exposes baddies. But he is really just a fascinator or distractor for the people who want change but end up supporting the deep state and their own demise due to the triumph of the war project.
    we have subcontracted the business of healing people to Companies who profit from sickness.

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    Default Re: What's up with Trump?

    Much ahs been said but I'll add a bit to this discourse.

    I am expectefly the LAST person on this planet to like Trump...Generally I do not.
    As a member of the LGBT community I am supposed to hate him....alsa, he never presented himself as anti anything or anyone be it based on race, orientation or creed. NOTING his children are converted to Judiasm... I guess he dodged the anti-semtic rhetoric.

    As a popular media personality.....I examined him.

    He sucks HARDCORE as a business person, he companies are highly suspect and his "skills" seem limited to perfecting bankruptcy, not producing value for shareholders or investors. I am not going to belabour that, it's literally on the public record.

    So from all angles professionally he was repulsive, his antics with women make him even moreso don;t really need to go on.

    I "liked" Trump because literally ANYONE would be a better choice than Hillary Clinton.
    His policies, upon reflection, were well reasoned...

    Trump is not a true "outsider" tho...his Uncle was very deeply involved with Tesla and letter angecies and Trump is exceptionally well connected and not just because he is a self aggrandizing media whore. So he remains "suspect". My "issues" with Trump stem from vaccines and his mind numbingly obtuse inactions in some areas and ESPECIALLY his political appointees.....no sense there AT ALL.

    Soooo I never really liked him, I never trusted him, he did some "good work" but overall be it karma, the universe or some other thing he was actually ineffective and a very poor President...

    Yet......leaps and bounds a much better choice than his competitors.

    IMHO Trump is immature, belligerent and an attention seeking whore. His focus is on himself YET as he considered the USA his own he acted ( out of ego) to protect it. Which.........was not horrible.but for all the wrong reasons I guess.

    Trump forced the deep state to play and SHOW their hands in this game. Not sure if anyone else could do it, but as he is still alive and shilling for vaccines, he is no ones friend. Is he evil? I don't think so. He seeks attention, popularity and power.....and to escape more audits on his catastrophic business failings.

    He is not an innocent
    He is for himself and what his considers to be his, be it possessions, nations or people.
    We're just along for the ride and benefit because his ego will NOT allow a lot of harm to come to his "subjects" .....BUT if in some way he feels the need to survive, he'll sacrifice us in an instant.

    All that being said I will reiterate that Hillary makes my gut wrench LITERALLY! And I am quite confident the world would be a legit horror show if she had won.

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    Default Re: What's up with Trump?

    I totally agree, but would just add that he seems to fit the Narcissist description pretty well.
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    Default Re: What's up with Trump?

    I've heard that he pushed the jabs in order to foil 'THEIR' plans to keep us in lockdown till 2025 when the usual testing of the vaccines would be complete.

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    Amy does a great job of exposing Trump here, highly suggested listen if you want the full picture of the role he is playing in the new world order
    https://open.spotify.com/episode/2B5...3A&dl_branch=1

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    Default Re: What's up with Trump?

    Quote Posted by CurEus (here)
    Much ahs been said but I'll add a bit to this discourse.

    I am expectefly the LAST person on this planet to like Trump...Generally I do not.
    As a member of the LGBT community I am supposed to hate him....alsa, he never presented himself as anti anything or anyone be it based on race, orientation or creed. NOTING his children are converted to Judiasm... I guess he dodged the anti-semtic rhetoric.

    As a popular media personality.....I examined him.

    He sucks HARDCORE as a business person, he companies are highly suspect and his "skills" seem limited to perfecting bankruptcy, not producing value for shareholders or investors. I am not going to belabour that, it's literally on the public record.

    So from all angles professionally he was repulsive, his antics with women make him even moreso don;t really need to go on.

    I "liked" Trump because literally ANYONE would be a better choice than Hillary Clinton.
    His policies, upon reflection, were well reasoned...

    Trump is not a true "outsider" tho...his Uncle was very deeply involved with Tesla and letter angecies and Trump is exceptionally well connected and not just because he is a self aggrandizing media whore. So he remains "suspect". My "issues" with Trump stem from vaccines and his mind numbingly obtuse inactions in some areas and ESPECIALLY his political appointees.....no sense there AT ALL.

    Soooo I never really liked him, I never trusted him, he did some "good work" but overall be it karma, the universe or some other thing he was actually ineffective and a very poor President...

    Yet......leaps and bounds a much better choice than his competitors.

    IMHO Trump is immature, belligerent and an attention seeking whore. His focus is on himself YET as he considered the USA his own he acted ( out of ego) to protect it. Which.........was not horrible.but for all the wrong reasons I guess.

    Trump forced the deep state to play and SHOW their hands in this game. Not sure if anyone else could do it, but as he is still alive and shilling for vaccines, he is no ones friend. Is he evil? I don't think so. He seeks attention, popularity and power.....and to escape more audits on his catastrophic business failings.

    He is not an innocent
    He is for himself and what his considers to be his, be it possessions, nations or people.
    We're just along for the ride and benefit because his ego will NOT allow a lot of harm to come to his "subjects" .....BUT if in some way he feels the need to survive, he'll sacrifice us in an instant.

    All that being said I will reiterate that Hillary makes my gut wrench LITERALLY! And I am quite confident the world would be a legit horror show if she had won.
    Great post.  I was backing his ego expanding to protect the whole USA, praying he would get enough done, before it shrunk back.

    Not that I'm qualified in any way on this, living down under like a mushroom.  Especially when we're now drowning in that much sh!t fertilizer it's scary thinking about what we're gonna pop up like next.

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    Default Re: What's up with Trump?

    I thought that for awhile too, but his recent praise of the jabs disabused me of that.
    Quote Posted by genevieve (here)
    I've heard that he pushed the jabs in order to foil 'THEIR' plans to keep us in lockdown till 2025 when the usual testing of the vaccines would be complete.
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    Quote Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
    Anyway, see what you think after hearing what these ppl have to say: https://beforeitsnews.com/alternativ...o-3758204.html
    I had "Before its News" flagged as a disinformation site several years ago. It smelled really bad back then, so I flagged it in my bookmarks.
    Our destiny is in our hands. Let us visualise a world of truth, freedom and equality.

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    Default Re: What's up with Trump?

    In my book no politician is worthy of much trust, for me Trump was always the lesser evil, not the ideal hero - out of what was being offered in America at the time, and certainly now I would rather Trump be in the White house than all of those other creeps. I quite like Ted Cruz also, but always in comparison with what is being offered!

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    Default Re: What's up with Trump?

    ...

    ... over there, at Forbidden Knowledge, Alexandra Bruce summarized the first part of the exchange:

    CROWN-TEMPLE-PLANDEMIC (Trump / Azar / Fauci) - 1:03:23 (audio)

    September 15, 2021

    You know that squirmy cognitive dissonance you feel when Donald Trump extols rapturously about the vaccines and Operation Warp Speed?

    Well, Tyla and Douglas Gabriel at AIM4Truth.org and Michael McKibben at Americans4Innovation are here to say that if Trump isn’t part of a counterintelligence operation to take down this apocalyptic scheme of the British Pilgrims Society, then he is an integral part of it and he needs to come clean now.

    Otherwise, there can be no other conclusion than that Trump is a vital player in the roll-out of the Globalists’ Fascist, genocidal agenda – specifically, the agenda of the apex predators of all the Globalists, the Pilgrims Society.

    For years, the three have been podcasting about their enthusiastic support of Trump and they are devastated to relay their findings about the legal groundwork that enabled the tyranny we’ve seen unfurl in the US – and which was crucial to empowering jurisdictions around the world to implement this same unprecedented pharmaceutical Fascism.

    They begin by explaining that in Joe Biden’s Executive Order of September 9th, 2021, which mandated vaccines for federal employees, he cited as his authority the “nationwide public health emergency, first declared by the Secretary of Health and Human Services on January 31, 2020.”

    Do any of you remember that one? Not me and not them. We all remember March 13, 2020, but not January 31st. That was kind of sneaked-in.

    They dug a little deeper and discovered that when HHS Secretary, Alex Azar executed it on January 31, 2020 there were only five (5) COVID-19 deaths in the US, according to the CDC. Therefore, Azar had no healthcare–related basis for declaring a national health emergency.

    Also, for some reason, Azar was compelled to backdate the Public Health Emergency by 5 days to January 27th. Why did he need to do that? What happened on January 28, 2020?

    On January 28th, 2020, we find that the federal government indicted Harvard nano-biowarfare researcher, Dr. Charles Lieber. Lieber holds 66 US patents in nanotechnology, much of it funded by Anthony Fauci and the NIH. Researchers are now discovering Lieber’s nanoparticles in the COVID-19 vials.

    As it happens, Charles Lieber’s father, Robert I. Lieber was a senior satellite engineer for Radio Corporation of America (RCA), who received the David Sarnoff Outstanding Achievement Award in Engineering in 1962. His work on the Aegis satellite system for the US Navy is integral to the deployment of 5G today. Sarnoff was a leading member of the British Pilgrims Society, according to the congressional record in 1940.

    Here’s a schematic of a weaponized 5G Wireless Nanotube Coronavirus Delivery System that Fauci paid Lieber to build:

    (see picture in original article)


    McKibben says that by indicting Lieber, the Justice Department effectively shielded him from public scrutiny and questioning about his biowarfare activities in China just prior to the alleged Wuhan outbreak.

    He says that by backdating the national emergency to January 27, 2020, based on only five COVID-19 deaths, one day before Lieber was indicted, Secretary Azar was able to protect Lieber (who he says is a British Pilgrims Society agent) under the cover of a “global pandemic” that he evidently knew was planned (another fraud).

    He says,
    “Backdating federal judgments is fraudulent and unwinds ALL subsequent actions, including the fraudulent Pretender Biden’s latest Executive Order. This backdating, and its interlocked frauds, completely unwinds to COVID-19 nightmare that the British Pilgrims Society, and its sycophants in the American government, have put America and the world through since late January of 2020.

    “Their agenda to implement medical genocide and their ‘new world order’ tyranny, also known as ‘The Great Reset,’ has become patently obvious to any reasonable person. These criminals must be brought to justice by We the People in the United States and the Citizens of the World.”
    Doug reminds us that the virus has never been isolated from human tissue, so the entire declaration of a pandemic is a fabrication, cut from whole cloth, especially considering that only 5 people had allegedly died from it. So Trump calling it the “China virus”, when Wuhan was doing the same research as 22 other BSL4 labs around the world – all of them funded by Anthony Fauci at the NIH is already suspicious.

    Trump jumping on the bandwagon on January 31st and banning all travelers from China, Iran and the Shengen Area of Europe – against the advice of Fauci and Birx, who control the Public Health Service (PHS) Act, the NIH, the CDC, who must take their orders from the WHO – leaves Trump with some explaining to do.

    Doug says they looked at what happened the next day. “In Biden’s recent Executive Order, he reinstates in March of 2021 what was done in March of 2020,” which was the National Emergency declared by Trump.

    Doug says, “There was already a nationwide health emergency [declared by Alex Azar], why did Trump call a special National Emergency? Because, when that happens, he then has power…
    “Why would he do that? And why would he stop flights from China, accusing China as being the source of this, when we now know there were multiple cases in America at the end of October, November, December and January, none of which ever reached the CDC’s counting of coronavirus [cases], by the way.

    “And we pointed out that this was, of course a British Pirbright Institute experiment done in Wuhan…and probably delivered by their intelligence agency, Qinetiq. They’ve done this with the Asian Flu, the Swine Flu – you name it – China has been the petrie dish for the Brits.

    “Why would Trump immediately accuse the Chinese Communist Party of doing this to their own people?”
    Tyla says, “I know! I know! Because he’s protecting the British Pilgrims and their operation and by shutting off all the travel to China, that would cut off this narrative, that we were hot in the trail with, with Lieber.

    “Michael, is Lieber connected to the British Pilgrims?”

    Michael replies, “His funding is all Pilgrims Society funding for all of his research. So by then, our whole research R&D operation, during his time was controlled by SERCO, by MI6 and various banks and he was in their pocket. It’s totally obvious.”

    Doug adds, “And then Brexit – this attempt for Brexit – was not being received well by the European Union and Britain was going down. So what did they do? They had to destroy Chinese supremacy in world economics. And so they basically made them the scapegoat and Trump bit the whole thing off. He went hook, line and sinker into this…
    “Fauci said,’No, there’s no need to cut off the flights from China.’ Well, there had to be a reason for that…

    “Then March 11th, the World Health Organization declares a global pandemic. Excuse me? 24 people do not constitute, in America a pandemic. That is insane…and then, on March 13th, Congress confirms Trump’s [declaration]…which boils down to the Assistant Secretary for Health and Human Services for Preparedness, is the one who then declares the pandemic in America, not based upon their own opinion, or the CDC or the NIH. They are basically bound by law to follow the recommendations of the World Health Organization.

    “That should be illegal and every single politician who voted for these laws, that I’ve mentioned before; the Public Health Service Act (PHS), the Pandemic and All-Hazards Preparedness Act of 2004 (PAHPA). , they’re all criminals, because they gave away our Constitutional rights. But Trump trumped that by declaring a National Emergency over this, when there was no emergency – and even [2 days] before, when the corrupt World Health Organization called the pandemic.

    “And then, on March 13th, think about this: the combined Congress supported Trump? Combined Congress didn’t support Trump on anything, ever! They fought him tooth and fang on everything! And for this? They supported it?

    “Yeah,” says Tyla. “‘Cause the Uniparty’s all coming together. All the British Pilgrims operatives in America, coming together for this…Here’s the bottom line: The WHO would not have been able to call the pandemic the way they did, worldwide, had Trump not done this Presidential National Emergency. Is that correct?”

    “Yes, I believe so. It gave them fuel for the fire,” says Doug.
    Tyla continues,
    “So, Trump is responsible for this. He’s responsible for our businesses closing, for your family and your friends taking the vaxxine, and then eventually, what does he do? After the election, he comes out and he’s pro-vaxxine. That was astonishing to people but if you know that he’s the one that set this in motion, way back when, then you understand what he’s doing.
    “He’s a part of the genocide operation of the world and he is a traitor to the United States, because he sold us out, because of 5, up to 24 people having the flu?…and then, Trump used his power and the influence of his position to create a scenario where billions of people will be injured or harmed.”
    Doug continues, “The next three items on the timeline, if you haven’t been convinced yet, should convince you. On same day Congress supports Trump, which is literally an oxymoron during his entire administration…whatever he was for, they were against…And now, not only do they insist you take the shot but you lose your job if you don’t or that you’re locked-up in a FEMA camp or whatever else is coming next, which is only a few minutes from now.

    “So, on March 13th, all of a sudden, the Health and Human Services Assistant for Preparedness put forth and got passed Emergency Use Authorization for the worst genetically-modified organism ever created, that is basically changing the entire genetic make-up of every cell in your body, called Messenger RNA. Never been tested [on humans]. It was tested in one case in Germany and every single animal was dead within 3 to 6 months.

    “So where did they get the idea to allow Emergency Use Only for a drug that had never been effective in anything, ever?”

    Tyla jumps in, “And to add to that, put a little rocket fuel in it and make it ‘Operation Warp Speed’!”
    “That’s the next thing but it’s strange that on March 13th, Emergency Use Authorization was given to the most questionable drug ever created in human history and then on April 10th, there was an order by the FDA to outlaw the use of Ivermectin, which we now know has stopped all coronavirus in Japan. They aren’t using any vaxxines, they’re only using Ivermectin. Many countries are doing that. As you know, Astra Zeneca has been kicked out of 20 countries…
    “The FDA came out and took a drug schedule of the World Health Organization as one of the most effective and most harmless drugs, with the least amount of side effects of any drug in history. They outlawed it, because that was the number one treatment that wold have stopped all of this in its tracks.

    “And of course, Trump had to sign all of these agreements, right? Every speck of it. These are agencies under the control of the Executive. So, Trump had to be involved in all of this and we heard him say that he was involved in much of this. He never mentioned Ivermectin, now, did he? He mentioned hydroxychloroquine, which now, has practically been outlawed, also and he mentioned Remdesevir…

    “Then, April 10th, Ivermectin is outlawed by the FDA and then, the thing that nails the coffin shut: On April 29th, Trump, who said he invented the concept of Operation Warp Speed…what did Operation Warp Speed do? It provided National Emergency and a nationwide Public Health Emergency and a pandemic declared – all three of them – it gave infinite money to the pharmaceutical companies. Infinite money. Literally, look at the acts that created this…Infinite money. There’s no limitation…

    “Operation Warp Speed was the worst violation of vaccine experimentation ever done in human history and basically took what was known as a bioweapon to fly under the false flag of a vaccine, which it is not. So, you put these things in a timeline and you have to ask the question: Was Trump part of this conspiracy?

    “Then, you have to ask the question, ‘Oh my gosh, let’s look back on some of the people he deployed and some of the things he did…

    “Was he turned to the Dark Side in January of 2020?…Or was he already a part of the conspiracy from the time he come down the escalator with Melania? I don’t know – ”
    Michael jumps in and says, “The fact that they backdated the Effective Date is one telling sign that people who started this knew what was going on…there was no statistical reason to declare a pandemic, which by the way, on its face is fraud, because they’re misrepresenting the health information to the American People and then, secondly, it’s reasonable to assume they knew that this WHO pandemic declaration was going to happen and it did, on March 11th, 6 weeks later…
    “So the question is, why did Trump and Azar jump the gun? And the only thing we could come up with, from the facts that we know, is that they were protecting their super Pilgrims Society agent, Dr Charles M Lieber.”
    ***
    The description above covers the first half of this riveting podcast and it’s getting long. It is definitely worth listening to, albeit challenging to the core beliefs of Trump supporters, like me.



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    This is my purely personal perspective on Donald Trump, but done best I think, when stacked against what the world has now with Joe Biden. I feel ok in putting this out from a my Scottish perspective simply because the current state of US politics affects us all globally. Because I'm not any kind of political expert, I can only take what I observe and form my views from there.

    To start, I've just seen too many vids of Biden's in-public behavior, where those around him are clearly very, very uncomfortable, plainly sensing the true nature of the man's energy. In spite of the 'man of the people' image which he likes to project, Joe Biden's bon-homie towards others is just an act.

    Aside from struggling to remain coherent with the onset of dementia, Biden also struggles now to hide the true nature of his energy. It looks like people around him sense this instinctively and react accordingly with nervousness, apprehension & fear. He also comes across publicly as ill-tempered, thuggish & demented. From watching the reactions of those around him, Biden's actual energy seems deceptive & dark, and instinctively no one wishes to get too close to it. In Biden's more uncontrolled moments he manifests this true energy - as we've all seen - with some very creepy and inappropriate behavior towards anyone that comes within his reach.

    Animals sense this type of darker energy too...and there's a pic of Biden with one of his Alsatians floating around the internet, where the animal is plainly very uncomfortable, even fearful, from being too close to Biden. Pets are very much a barometer of their owners personalities, their owners energy and how they're treated by them...so is it any wonder one or more of Biden's pets were reported as having regularly attacked members of his secret service detail when their master seemingly carries this kind of energy? (the last I heard was 8 attacks on various members of his protection detail). Something at a soul level is not right with this man.

    I contrast this with the many, many vids I've seen of Trump in public (many 'off the record' too), which seem to show his overall energy is of a completely different sort, being of a much more positive, loving & sincere kind. I'm not saying he's all sweetness & light, but people from all walks of life who've never met the guy seem to warm to him very quickly, and he to them...and it all seems quite genuine. Trump's 'off the record' acts of personal kindness also deserve a mention too (maybe Joe Biden does this too but I've just not heard of them).

    But when I look at / into both of their eyes, I see at once in Joe Biden a dark hardness, like being watched by a predator and a killer, someone who's serially deceptive, utterly ruthless & slightly demented. I also see his eyes tinged fear & madness. Personally I would not take him, his word or anything he does at face value. I think he would do anything, and I mean literally anything, to get his way. Whether by design, through his own incompetence, or as a result of his dementia, I see Joe Biden - and I'm trying to be exact in my wording here - as a literal monster, albeit at this stage a bumbling one (which ironically, makes him all the more dangerous). He's someone that would destroy (and may yet do) almost all around him to suit his own political ends (an end which, it seems, he is being knowingly or unknowingly guided steadily towards). I would not want to personally be in this man's presence, ever.

    In Trump, I don't see this at all. I read Trump as having a huge ego, but I think he would freely acknowledge this too. I see him as someone who knows power, but also the damage it's ill-considered use can cause; Joe Biden has none of this understanding, nor the self-restraint that comes from such an understanding. Trump also plainly values the warmth & support of close family & personal relationships. In public life I see him as someone broadly competent at what he does, and oft-times delivers on his public promises to the people. Most importantly, I see him as a genuine leader, and not an petty, aspiring totalitarian dictator, as I do Joe Biden (such is the nature of evil). Trump also has a very good sense of humor, which tells me he is, broadly speaking, in touch at a soul level with those around him, and more importantly, in touch with his humanity. I see none of this in Joe Biden.

    Comparing the records of their achievements & their general competence in post as President, what I see (in spite of the MSM's attempts downplay this) is the utter incompetence (in spite of having everything going for him as regards the support of the globalist political, media & other establishments) of Joe Biden over the past year.

    Compare this to the relative successes of Trump during his term of office (in spite of all the globalist & MSM's attempts to destroy him & the continual distractions from his work that came from this along the way). To me Trump was/is, broadly speaking a success, whereas Biden just goes from one disaster to another, with the problems he's creating gradually building to a critical mass of some kind, climaxing sometime soon.

    Regarding the issue of Trump & the 'vaccine', my view is that he had no choice but to support the 'vaccine' rollout at the time. I think just ONE of the reasons the 'virus' hit at the time it did - during the run-up to the election of 2020 - was to stop Trump, & the rise of anti-globalist (ie Populist) movements more generally, in their tracks. In response Trump couldn't be seen to oppose any potential treatment for the 'virus' during the election run-up. And he also couldn't have known of the dangers the 'vaccines' posed at that time anyway, as he almost certainly (in my view) wasn't a part of the globalist's problem/solution planning for the event.

    Anyway, we've not , I don't think, heard the last of Trump, I do think he's going to contend the 2024 election. Though I don't see how he can win unless widespread election fraud issues are addressed before then, which - I have to say - seems unlikely (I'm following Arizona etc quite closely). So, as things stand the next US election will just be a re-run, perhaps worse, of 2020.

    But conversely, if Trump does come back for a re-run in 2024, it'll prove to me he's not in it primarily for the people, but is in it for mainly for himself & his family, his future legacy; after all, why should he risk everything now, putting himself & his family at risk by taking more extreme action (when action is needed RIGHT NOW) to sort out the corrupt mess of US politics, the deep state etc, all of which will be portrayed as unconstitutional, perhaps treasonous, by his globalist opponents.

    If he does get re-elected in 2024, he will, I'm sure, come back as some kind of savior...but - to put not too fine a point on it - it may, by then, be too late for much of humanity.
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    Question Re: What's up with Trump?

    What if the huge "web of lies" coming from the majority of Bi-partisan Deep State Operatives (serving Agenda2030) are "assumed to be true" (beLIEved be True) by all gullible people practicing NO real discernment skills ... Incompetent to comprehend when some one is actually telling the truth or not ... the only way to have any effect or to reach them is to just "speak at their level" hopefully enough to bring them slowly towards what ACTUALLY is happening.

    This can be very tricky as you become complicit in helping to re-affirming the mass-condition the mass (sick to the core) confirmation bias ... So in short not all "4D or 5D chess" tactics done by Trump is really helping us ... it can also be used against him.
    • I can talk about this: mass psychological warfare for hours non-stop giving tons of examples why I come to a certain conclusion/insight ... That not everything is as it seems ... But I also see millions (even billions) of people getting injected with an experimental gene-therapy having many other controversial "nano-meds" ingredients like Graphene that may be connected to weaponized beam-forming erratic pulsed Microwaves.
    The scam is so big that can only work if "good people" act dumb about it "to fit in" to "get things done" ... even people like Trump >>> does he know there is no real pandemic, they just changed the definition of the word 'pandemic' same with "vaccines" also on the list of Orwellian Brave New World Type changed defections ... Does Trump know about how bad/misleading PCR Tests are? ... How many things does Trump know but chooses to play/ act dumb about it? ... He may think to wait for the "best moment" to red-pill everybody but he seems to hesitate way too long in my opinion ... Is he compromised? ... Is his family threatened? ... So many unanswered questions.

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    • Another way of looking at things ...
    What if the vast majority of the liberal left, the conservative right, the centrists, the independents (even libertarians) use a permanent mental filter to block any real genuine truth coming from some one "you just do not like" ... And by doing so ... you are not practicing real discernment skills anymore for whatever reason, like: plane laziness, "no time for", lack of intelligence, tribalism, fear, cremation of care, being incompetent, feeling permanent insecure, no trust in one-self, "afraid to be fooled" ... and the list is long of possible reasons and/or excuses.

    If this trend is only increasing last decade and coming years ... it could & can explain almost everything corrupt happening right now in our alleged "free society".

    What do we call someone who is always able to be honest & fair in making a summary of a controversial person good points & bad points? ... Even doing that with people he or she does not like.
    • answer: extremely rare, "probably not of this Earth"
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    Quote ... over there, at Forbidden Knowledge, Alexandra Bruce summarized the first part of the exchange:

    CROWN-TEMPLE-PLANDEMIC (Trump / Azar / Fauci) - 1:03:23 (audio)

    September 15, 2021

    You know that squirmy cognitive dissonance you feel when Donald Trump extols rapturously about the vaccines and Operation Warp Speed?

    Well, Tyla and Douglas Gabriel at AIM4Truth.org and Michael McKibben at Americans4Innovation are here to say that if Trump isn’t part of a counterintelligence operation to take down this apocalyptic scheme of the British Pilgrims Society, then he is an integral part of it and he needs to come clean now.

    For years, the three have been podcasting about their enthusiastic support of Trump and they are devastated to relay their findings about the legal groundwork that enabled the tyranny we’ve seen unfurl in the US – and which was crucial to empowering jurisdictions around the world to implement this same unprecedented pharmaceutical Fascism.

    Otherwise, there can be no other conclusion than that Trump is a vital player in the roll-out of the Globalists’ Fascist, genocidal agenda – specifically, the agenda of the apex predators of all the Globalists, the Pilgrims Society.

    They begin by explaining that in Joe Biden’s Executive Order of September 9th, 2021, which mandated vaccines for federal employees, he cited as his authority the “nationwide public health emergency, first declared by the Secretary of Health and Human Services on January 31, 2020.”

    Do any of you remember that one? Not me and not them. We all remember March 13, 2020, but not January 31st. That was kind of sneaked-in.

    They dug a little deeper and discovered that when HHS Secretary, Alex Azar executed it on January 31, 2020 there were only five (5) COVID-19 deaths in the US, according to the CDC. Therefore, Azar had no healthcare–related basis for declaring a national health emergency.

    Also, for some reason, Azar was compelled to backdate the Public Health Emergency by 5 days to January 27th. Why did he need to do that? What happened on January 28, 2020?

    On January 28th, 2020, we find that the federal government indicted Harvard nano-biowarfare researcher, Dr. Charles Lieber. Lieber holds 66 US patents in nanotechnology, much of it funded by Anthony Fauci and the NIH. Researchers are now discovering Lieber’s nanoparticles in the COVID-19 vials.

    As it happens, Charles Lieber’s father, Robert I. Lieber was a senior satellite engineer for Radio Corporation of America (RCA), who received the David Sarnoff Outstanding Achievement Award in Engineering in 1962. His work on the Aegis satellite system for the US Navy is integral to the deployment of 5G today. Sarnoff was a leading member of the British Pilgrims Society, according to the congressional record in 1940.

    Here’s a schematic of a weaponized 5G Wireless Nanotube Coronavirus Delivery System that Fauci paid Lieber to build:

    (see picture in original article)


    McKibben says that by indicting Lieber, the Justice Department effectively shielded him from public scrutiny and questioning about his biowarfare activities in China just prior to the alleged Wuhan outbreak.

    He says that by backdating the national emergency to January 27, 2020, based on only five COVID-19 deaths, one day before Lieber was indicted, Secretary Azar was able to protect Lieber (who he says is a British Pilgrims Society agent) under the cover of a “global pandemic” that he evidently knew was planned (another fraud).
    Thanks to "Forbidden Knowledge" for the summary. So much to unpack here, but I only need the first little bit of their piece to see how and where things start going sideways here. Links are important, as in instances like this, they are used as corroboration and evidence. So let's go through them one by one:

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    Quote You know that squirmy cognitive dissonance you feel when Donald Trump extols rapturously about the vaccines and Operation Warp Speed?
    No problems here, goes to the Washington Post showing Trump being pro vaccine.


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    Quote Well, Tyla and Douglas Gabriel at AIM4Truth.org and Michael McKibben at Americans4Innovation are here to say that if Trump isn’t part of a counterintelligence operation to take down this apocalyptic scheme of the British Pilgrims Society, then he is an integral part of it and he needs to come clean now.
    These to web sites are dodgy at best for one looking to track down the real nuts and bolts of any story. Chock full of sensationalism, some nice good old fashioned shock value, but little in the way of valuable information or commentary, I'd rather browse The Onion. The important thing though is to know in advance the "sources" we are going to be led on around back to as corroboration.

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    Quote Otherwise, there can be no other conclusion than that Trump is a vital player in the roll-out of the Globalists’ Fascist, genocidal agenda – specifically, the agenda of the apex predators of all the Globalists, the Pilgrims Society.
    That's fine, they inform us of who the "Pilgrim Society" is. A quick perusal shows the usual characters that few of us would choose to associate with.

    -
    Quote They begin by explaining that in Joe Biden’s Executive Order of September 9th, 2021, which mandated vaccines for federal employees, he cited as his authority the “nationwide public health emergency, first declared by the Secretary of Health and Human Services on January 31, 2020.”
    Okay, that's really good, linked directly to the White House as its source. Joe Biden really did this.

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    Quote [ Do any of you remember that one? Not me and not them. We all remember March 13, 2020, but not January 31st. That was kind of sneaked-in.
    That's a fine source there, no problems.

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    Quote They dug a little deeper and discovered that when HHS Secretary, Alex Azar executed it on January 31, 2020 there were only five (5) COVID-19 deaths in the US, according to the CDC. Therefore, Azar had no healthcare–related basis for declaring a national health emergency.
    No problems here either, save that I was hoping for a screen shot not a current update, but fortunately in this case the numbers sound right about in the ball park for January of 2020. It's a pass.

    Now this next one is all from one sentence, but I'm breaking it up into sections in order to more clearly show where things begin to go sideways on us:

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    Quote On January 28th, 2020, we find that the federal government indicted Harvard nano-biowarfare researcher,
    No problems here either. Link goes straight to the Department of Justice, they tell us who Dr. Charles Lieber is, and what he has been charged with.

    Now here is where things really start going sideways on us. Guess what? Forbidden Knowledge has just linked back unto itself, and its own editorialized version of who this guy is, and what he was doing.

    This is where they start making the ties between him and the vaccine, but couldn't find anything tying him to the vaccine, or Dr. Fauci, save that they both were involved with the Wuhan lab. That's a purposeful misdirect my friends, a red flag, now we've suddenly entered the world of opinion....

    And now to finish off that sentence, once again directed back to Forbidden Knowledge, and their opinions.

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    Quote Dr. Charles Lieber[/URL]. Lieber holds 66 US patents in nanotechnology, much of it funded by Anthony Fauci and the NIH. Researchers are now discovering Lieber’s nanoparticles in the COVID-19 vials.
    Moving on now.

    Quote As it happens, Charles Lieber’s father, Robert I. Lieber was a senior satellite engineer for Radio Corporation of America (RCA), who received the David Sarnoff Outstanding Achievement Award in Engineering in 1962. His work on the Aegis satellite system for the US Navy is integral to the deployment of 5G today. Sarnoff was a leading member of the British Pilgrims Society, according to the congressional record in 1940.
    I couldn't find any official link between Lieber's father and the Pilgrim Society. The link listed bringing us to the Congressional Record is a good official, buy hell if I was going to sift through all that small print for something that doesn't really matter anyway.

    It's fluff, just to make the guy look worse that he really may be.

    Last but not least, starting below just takes us deeper into the world of opinion and conjecture. There is no there, there.


    McKibben says that by indicting Lieber, the Justice Department effectively shielded him from public scrutiny and questioning about his biowarfare activities in China just prior to the alleged Wuhan outbreak.

    He says that by backdating the national emergency to January 27, 2020, based on only five COVID-19 deaths, one day before Lieber was indicted, Secretary Azar was able to protect Lieber (who he says is a British Pilgrims Society agent) under the cover of a “global pandemic” that he evidently knew was planned (another fraud).

    Now y'all know I'm no fan of politicians, Trump right up there with them, but the picture these people are attempting to paint of the man is, farcical , and typical of people engaged in the click bait business.

    Don't fall for this lame ass horse s##t!

    A side note to the OP: Maia, you can still believe in Trump, this ain't him!

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    • Details in Michael Sussmann’s Indictment Reveal Conspiracy Against Trump:

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