Future zoomer and beyond generation

[Mashika]

I have read lots and lots and lots, and i could keep saying 'lots' a lot more for a year for sure, but it just represents something i'm going to point out next

From all people i mostly met online, around 50+ or so, always, and i mean "always", they complain about younger generations, their kids being dumb, not able to do the 'right choices' and 'being snowflakes'

So i have a question for you guys

WHEN, are you going to set the example or tell them, in calm easy to explain, understandable, encompassing, empathic words? How to become strong? How to deal with pain, how to deal with stress, how to deal with abusse, how to deal with life at all?

Or are you all just going to keep rambling about how it was better "back in my days?" Just like your grand parents did?

But wait! Don't get angry, think about this

Your parents and your grand parents thought you were also making mistakes all around, and they thought of you as lesser because you could not figure out things they had already figured out

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=SBS_Ukbe2Vk

Have you not figured out yet that you are creating that generation that you complain about, by constantly doing that and saying "this kid can't handle it" instead of "hey kid, this is how it is, handle it no matter what time it takes"

It does seem you have given up on your own kids

I'm so glad i was born on a different country, honestly

I about had enough of the "these kids today" stuff, since it seems impossible to defeat and it's unbeareable narrow and impossible to recover from at this point

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But think about this, very seriously. Who is going to take care of you once you grow old, if your kids are barely retarded and all you do is to make fun of them, because "they are snow flakes". And you don't realise where this is going?

Who will take care of you once you can't get up of that chair....

*Think fast, and think smart*

I perceive a future world where all the western world will be filled with elder people unable to feed themselves and crying about how the new generations failed them, while also they empowered them by just sitting there watching them go mad all along, without moving a finger instead of doing something about it for real

Time, as it always happens, is of essence. Unless of course, that saying of "whatever, by the time it happens, i won't even be alive anymore, who cares!" and then someone asks "but what about your kids" and the person says "what about them? They figure it out, not my problem"

And history comes to happen, and writes itself

Any thoughts?

IMPORTANT NOTE: Please don't mention my age or i will go berserk

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Masha

[Mashika]

*These kids all they do is spend time on their phones*
YOU bought those phones for them, and allowed them to install games and buy coins and other stuff

*These kids could not fix a car if they were on the road*
Because you did not asked them or told them how to when they were younger, you spent your time somewhere else

*These kids can't handle pressure*
Because you continually put them in situations without any stress and then once it happened they did not know how to handle it. "This doesn't happen to kids that were into martial arts, or other kind of hard training" by the way

*These kids are not able to do any kind of hard work*
Because you did not ever said "let's go build a cabin here, here's how to cut wood, here's how to build a wall, yes the sun is hard we can finish this part and then we go drink some lemonade and rest for a bit, but look how great this is looking!"

Don't complain about things you have not done or created, it's as simple as that

[Mashika]

We are in a point in time, as most of you seem to realise, that is about change, and something is going on strong

So i believe that either you complain about how dumb the newer generation is, or do something about it, by sharing to them. Just stop complaining that others didn't, it doesn't change anything

There is only one chance sometimes, to share to the next generation all the things you know. Take it or not, it's up to you, but complaining about things is meaningless, let your knowledge go to waste then

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=J6bfyUplI0c

[Mashika]

Also about the constant complaining about zoomer and snowflake behavior, then tell me about this

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=moWe3rk7LzQ

I don't see many zoomers there, they all look to be above 30 or even 40, so who knows what's happening there, but they all seem very entitled to complain about everything but being "socialists"

The use of "comrade" is preposterous, ridiculous, and even more than that, it doesn't even mean to be used in the way it was used on that meeting

[Mashika]

Don't you guys understand that the very valuable knowledge you have accumulated over the years will be lost, because you think of every newer generation as dumb? And that not everyone is sharing it down to newer people, and that not even your kid knows as much as you do? And that the only way to keep this information alive is to passing it down?

So do.....

/RAAANT

[Mike]

Masha, all younger generations are dumb! It's not exclusive to the current ones. But that's not my issue with the younger generations today. If they were merely dumb I'd be tremendously relieved. It's not their dumbness that concerns me, it's their insanity

But it needs to be said (and I have said this many times already): It's not entirely their fault. Much of the blame falls on the shoulders of the crazy postmodern, Marxist professors that are filling young minds with all this crap.

And also (if I may put my tinfoil hat on a moment): I think these younger generations are being exposed to a psy op of massive proportions. They are being bombarded with lunacy from all angles. And here I'm speaking of all the bizarre and backwards craziness surrounding sex, gender, sexuality, and how it all applies to "identity" and so forth. And that's just a fraction of the lunacy. It's not just our values that are being inverted (and subverted), it's our science as well. In one fell swoop we've canceled common sense, rationality, and objectivity. We've canceled God too, which Nietzsche predicted, and it's been replaced by the madness known as "wokeism".

But I think the younger generations are mostly the victim of timing. They just happened to arrive when what Yuri Benzemov calls "demoralization" and "ideological subversion" were in their final stages (at least here in America). But, as I said in a recent thread, I think all this goes way beyond communist meddling; I think it's demonic in nature. There is a massive brainwashing taking place. I would even go so far as to call it possession. And I'm not just talking about ideological possession....I'm talking about demonic possession. So it's not just a psychological operation, it's a spiritual one as well

And I'll also say this: if I were born in the 90's, I don't think I'd have been immune or anything. I may have fell for it all too. I'm not suggesting I would have been any better under the circumstances.

But I'll continue to make fun of the younger generations because 1) it's fun. 2) I'm good at it. 3) they deserve it. 4) that's just what old farts like me are supposed to do

They won't listen to an old guy like me anyway, let's face it. But they will listen to the very best and smartest of their own generation (that's you Masha!). Younger people have been manipulated by many forces outside their control, but having said that it will still take a critical mass of young people to snap out of it and wake up, and help to wake up the young people around them. Even though the current situation is not entirely their fault, they have to take responsibility for their role and begin to remedy it.

[Gemma13]

Posted by Mashika (here)
Don't you guys understand that the very valuable knowledge you have accumulated over the years will be lost, because you think of every newer generation as dumb? And that not everyone is sharing it down to newer people, and that not even your kid knows as much as you do? And that the only way to keep this information alive is to passing it down?

So do.....

/RAAANT

There are definitely whiners in the older generations, "We had it tough and survived, what's wrong with kids today".  And they have every right to.  Many of them experienced multiple wars and financial depressions, to name a few.

I've bred three current generations and know first hand that they are incredibly caring, capable human beings.  I gave them everthing I could and every opportunity, from sport, camping, fishing, dance, arts, music, etc.  And I was tough on them to always let their empathy navigate their world.

For example, we never walked past a homeless busker without giving.  When I drove past a father and his two young children huddled on the side of the road in the rain, clearly having escaped a trauma situation from home, I stopped.  I helped.  And I educated my kids about it along the way.

I was thirsty for them to become teenagers so we could have conversations where I could pass on the baton of activism to prevent them from repeating what I, and the generations before me, had learned and successfully accomplished.  I had grand visions and hope for their generation.

And then two of them were stolen from me.  Literally!  I know this is because the internet had become a powerful weapon for generations before to educate the young ones.  They had to disable the youth moving forward.

The education system and social brainwashing saturated them with utter nonsense and bullsh!t propaganda that drove them into the cult of victimhood that is cancelling every generation before them.

This is by design.  It is powerful.  And when I said "toughen up princess" to a minor situation I was put against the wall and shot by their firing squad.

Hearing your frustration Mashika and glad you shared it. Perhaps you can help untangle some of them from the victimhood cult for us so they can be free again to live and choose from their own power.

UPDATE: I have to second what Mike said also. We were posting at the same time. I agree there is a spiritual force enabling and manifesting all this crap.

[Mashika]

Posted by Mike (here)
Masha, all younger generations are dumb!
But it needs to be said (and I have said this many times already): It's not entirely their fault. Much of the blame falls on the shoulders of the crazy postmodern, Marxist professors that are filling young minds with all this crap.

Please read this, then come back and tell me that's true

Since at least 624 BCE, people have lamented the decline of the present generation of youth relative to earlier generations (2–5). The pervasiveness of complaints about “kids these days” across millennia suggests that these criticisms are neither accurate nor due to the idiosyncrasies of a particular culture or time—but rather represent a pervasive illusion of humanity

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aav5916

In general, we are all dumb

And also (if I may put my tinfoil hat on a moment): I think these younger generations are being exposed to a psy op of massive proportions.

Created by previous generations, and if that was understood, then it would be more easy to fix, instead of complaining about it like most people do. Or are we to assume that the same zoommers affected by it were the ones who created "the effect". Who did? Other than previous generations?

and it's been replaced by the madness known as "wokeism".

Who are the teachers in the universities in the US, or in UK or Aus? Are they 20? No they are not, so this comes from them, this "woke" thing is being brought up from 40something people, not zoomers so why is the people directing the attention to the result and not the cause? Is this meant to be like that?

But I'll continue to make fun of the younger generations because 1) it's fun. 2) I'm good at it. 3) they deserve it. 4) that's just what old farts like me are supposed to do

Nobody said good banter is not allowed, but also let them know it's how things are! so they don't go hide in the basement for the next 20 years and then complain that no girl accepts them because they smell funny and have no human social skills at all anymore, because their parents bought them food for 30 years and they don't even know how to start a conversation. I feel Japan's social issue growing here somehow in the future for the US lol (Hikikomori)

They won't listen to an old guy like me anyway, let's face it.

You don't seem like that to me, aren't we talking here? You get me. It's more like the general culture out there, but you are talking here with me

But they will listen to the very best and smartest of their own generation (that's you Masha!).

Would not know, i mostly don't talk to people in the US around my age, i can't relate much, so we don't really fit. They mostly avoid me so...

Younger people have been manipulated by many forces outside their control, but having said that it will still take a critical mass of young people to snap out of it and wake up, and help to wake up the young people around them. Even though the current situation is not entirely their fault, they have to take responsibility for their role and begin to remedy it.

But that's exactly my point, if no one teach how to take responsibility or take control, then what's next? they will have kids worst than them, then it's over. Who or what, will happen next? They won't know how to "have to take responsibility for their role" to begin with

So as i was saying, i'm going to watch this from far away, and do all i can to prevent it coming here, as much as the US said it is an "authoritarian" view of the world. Truth is, my country is not "authoritarian", it's more like "we don't want your mental illness here, we're good, thank you" way of handling those things

[xidaijena]

I perceive a future world where all the western world will be filled with elder people unable to feed themselves and crying about how the new generations failed them, while also they empowered them by just sitting there watching them go mad all along, without moving a finger instead of doing something about it for real

I think not only the western world, but also China. I thought western government will be better than Chinese ones. But to me, Chinese government treats my family nice because my father was a famer and too poor to make money to raise the family. And my mother is also very old and has no ability to make money, either. How about me? Just because of the experience of mental hospital, I was treated as disabled person to make money. So the government gives us several hundread money to my mother per month and when my mother was broken her leg to live in hospital, we have 90% recompense. We paid about 62000RMB, they gave back us about 55000RMB.

I don't like the education in my hometwon. I was an English teacher in some crams( education companies). I know the pressure about the students and kids.

Not only the kid but also adults, we are all under big pressure.

Only communities life, and must every body has the belief to respect Creator which can let us free from the Satan's control.

No other methods.

This is the task of Lifechanyuan in China.

This is the mission of Xuefeng and all those Chinese " farmers" who are like my old parents.

We are all ordinary but extraordinary in souls.

Hope all of you can understand my "must" to respect Creator in my belief.

[Mashika]

Posted by Gemma13 (here)

Posted by Mashika (here)
Don't you guys understand that the very valuable knowledge you have accumulated over the years will be lost, because you think of every newer generation as dumb? And that not everyone is sharing it down to newer people, and that not even your kid knows as much as you do? And that the only way to keep this information alive is to passing it down?

So do.....

/RAAANT

There are definitely whiners in the older generations, "We had it tough and survived, what's wrong with kids today".  And they have every right to.  Many of them experienced multiple wars and financial depressions, to name a few.

I've bred three current generations and know first hand that they are incredibly caring, capable human beings.  I gave them everthing I could and every opportunity, from sport, camping, fishing, dance, arts, music, etc.  And I was tough on them to always let their empathy navigate their world.

For example, we never walked past a homeless busker without giving.  When I drove past a father and his two young children huddled on the side of the road in the rain, clearly having escaped a trauma situation from home, I stopped.  I helped.  And I educated my kids about it along the way.

I was thirsty for them to become teenagers so we could have conversations where I could pass on the baton of activism to prevent them from repeating what I, and the generations before me, had learned and successfully accomplished.  I had grand visions and hope for their generation.

And then two of them were stolen from me.  Literally!  I know this is because the internet had become a powerful weapon for generations before to educate the young ones.  They had to disable the youth moving forward.

The education system and social brainwashing saturated them with utter nonsense and bullsh!t propaganda that drove them into the cult of victimhood that is cancelling every generation before them.

This is by design.  It is powerful.  And when I said "toughen up princess" to a minor situation I was put against the wall and shot by their firing squad.

Hearing your frustration Mashika and glad you shared it. Perhaps you can help untangle some of them from the victimhood cult for us so they can be free again to live and choose from their own power.

UPDATE: I have to second what Mike said also. We were posting at the same time. I agree there is a spiritual force enabling and manifesting all this crap.

I agree mostly, but see this

I've bred three current generations and know first hand that they are incredibly caring, capable human beings. I gave them everthing I could and every opportunity, from sport, camping, fishing, dance, arts, music, etc. And I was tough on them to always let their empathy navigate their world.

Like i said before, you did take care to teach that to them, so you have no reason to lament, you know better than most, and you did it correctly. Whatever they are, it's your creation, and if they did good it's because you are a great parent.

But in general would you go complain about other kids, or attempt to fix their wrong path? It's their parents work!

Those parents are already broken, so it will just go down from there, in millions and millions until you are overrun, in terms of education and principles. That's what i see going on in the US and other western countries. And it truly bothers me since it seems no one cares to fix it at all!

[Mike]

Yeah I agree with much of what you wrote Masha. I think a big part of the problem is that the adults left the room long ago.

They have much to answer for. 100%.

And I shouldn't have said "dumb". There are loads of whipsmart young people. "Ignorant" or "naive" might have been a better choice of words. Young people - in general! - just don't have the life experience to be making suggestions for significant social and institutional change. I don't think that's what they should be doing. Ideally
I think they should be having fun and making young people mistakes and slowly gaining wisdom along the way.

I think meaning is found in personal responsibility. That's the message that I'd really emphasize to our youth (and everybody else for that matter)

In another thread I suggested all young people should be required to serve in the military for one year. Many young people are so far removed from reality that I can think of no better way to reacquaint them with it than a year of military training. I firmly believe it would make a massive difference, for the better

[Mashika]

Posted by Mike (here)
Yeah I agree with much of what you wrote Masha. I think a big part of the problem is that the adults left the room long ago.

They have much to answer for. 100%.

And I shouldn't have said "dumb". There are loads of whipsmart young people. "Ignorant" or "naive" might have been a better choice of words. Young people - in general! - just don't have the life experience to be making suggestions for significant social and institutional change. I don't think that's what they should be doing. Ideally
I think they should be having fun and making young people mistakes and slowly gaining wisdom along the way.

I think meaning is found in personal responsibility. That's the message that I'd really emphasize to our youth (and everybody else for that matter)

In another thread I suggested all young people should be required to serve in the military for one year. Many young people are so far removed from reality that I can think of no better way to reacquaint them with it than a year of military training. I firmly believe it would make a massive difference, for the better

I remember reading a study, which i tried but failed to find, that examined this, but i do know this aspect of life very well lol, also i understand different world and cultures and such, so no need to critic it all

Many young people are so far removed from reality that I can think of no better way to reacquaint them with it than a year of military training

In Russia, there was the Nashi, until 2012 or so, and the from there as a "voluntary" operation until it became the "Youth Army" in 2015, but basically just changing name, it was all the same, so by that standard that "a year of military training" is enough, you are way behind. In Russia kids who join the nashi or "youth army" are by the age of 18 at most 10 years experienced in military combat, tactics and leadership, plus a lot of other things

There's a giant difference there see?

But that doesn't really matter right now for this conversation, it's more like, why are people in the US not taking care to bring up their kids strong as their used to be? Why do they don't care about it anymore?

Actually here's the actual question:

*Why are the western parents letting their kids grow dumb year by year*

[Mike]

Posted by Mashika (here)

Posted by Mike (here)
Yeah I agree with much of what you wrote Masha. I think a big part of the problem is that the adults left the room long ago.

They have much to answer for. 100%.

And I shouldn't have said "dumb". There are loads of whipsmart young people. "Ignorant" or "naive" might have been a better choice of words. Young people - in general! - just don't have the life experience to be making suggestions for significant social and institutional change. I don't think that's what they should be doing. Ideally
I think they should be having fun and making young people mistakes and slowly gaining wisdom along the way.

I think meaning is found in personal responsibility. That's the message that I'd really emphasize to our youth (and everybody else for that matter)

In another thread I suggested all young people should be required to serve in the military for one year. Many young people are so far removed from reality that I can think of no better way to reacquaint them with it than a year of military training. I firmly believe it would make a massive difference, for the better

I remember reading a study, which i tried but failed to find, that examined this, but i do know this aspect of life very well lol, also i understand different world and cultures and such, so no need to critic it all

Many young people are so far removed from reality that I can think of no better way to reacquaint them with it than a year of military training

In Russia, there was the Nashi, until 2012 or so, and the from there as a "voluntary" operation until it became the "Youth Army" in 2015, but basically just changing name, it was all the same, so by that standard that "a year of military training" is enough, you are way behind. In Russia kids who join the nashi or "youth army" are by the age of 18 at most 10 years experienced in military combat, tactics and leadership, plus a lot of other things

There's a giant difference there see?

But that doesn't really matter right now for this conversation, it's more like, why are people in the US not taking care to bring up their kids strong as their used to be? Why do they don't care about it anymore?

Actually here's the actual question:

*Why are the western parents letting their kids grow dumb year by year*

Wow, interesting stuff. I had no idea about the Nashi. See, I was being kind to the American kids - I only suggested one year But even so, they'd still call me a fascist or an autocrat or a dictator if I was in charge and made military service mandatory lol.

I think the military thing is relevant to the thread because there is nothing more real than military training, and heavy doses of reality have a way of kicking bad ideas out of heads. Young people have had alot of bad ideas planted in their heads that can't be removed by words alone - it requires experience as well. Young people in the US can indulge bad ideas because they aren't exposed enough to reality. There's a whole movement here being taught mostly in universities but increasingly in high school and grade school too - it's called postmodernism - that is aggressively anti-reality. We need to fight it with equal or superior aggression in my view. What better way than the military?

Why are western parents letting their kids grow dumber year by year? Well, there's a ton to parse out there, and I'm too tired to do it. But one thing is this: the US takes great pride in equal treatment, tolerance, and freedom for all. But that's all been bastardized to the point where we're now tolerating intolerance, and we're calling it "diversity". "Diversity" and "inclusivity" are really just code words for enforced conformity, but it's being sold as this wonderful progressive journey towards another bullsh!t idea: "equity". Equity does not mean equality, it means enforced outcomes. It means social Marxism. So this is sort of the holy trinity of obfuscation. It's also placed itself front and center, and left math and science and pretty much everything else in it's shadow. Our obsession with this nonsense has taken priority over all else, including what we used to think of as education. So that's why we're getting so dumb, in a nutshell...our educators have become activists and they're passing the poison down from generation to generation

[Mashika]

Posted by Mike (here)

Posted by Mashika (here)

Posted by Mike (here)
Yeah I agree with much of what you wrote Masha. I think a big part of the problem is that the adults left the room long ago.

They have much to answer for. 100%.

And I shouldn't have said "dumb". There are loads of whipsmart young people. "Ignorant" or "naive" might have been a better choice of words. Young people - in general! - just don't have the life experience to be making suggestions for significant social and institutional change. I don't think that's what they should be doing. Ideally
I think they should be having fun and making young people mistakes and slowly gaining wisdom along the way.

I think meaning is found in personal responsibility. That's the message that I'd really emphasize to our youth (and everybody else for that matter)

In another thread I suggested all young people should be required to serve in the military for one year. Many young people are so far removed from reality that I can think of no better way to reacquaint them with it than a year of military training. I firmly believe it would make a massive difference, for the better

I remember reading a study, which i tried but failed to find, that examined this, but i do know this aspect of life very well lol, also i understand different world and cultures and such, so no need to critic it all

Many young people are so far removed from reality that I can think of no better way to reacquaint them with it than a year of military training

In Russia, there was the Nashi, until 2012 or so, and the from there as a "voluntary" operation until it became the "Youth Army" in 2015, but basically just changing name, it was all the same, so by that standard that "a year of military training" is enough, you are way behind. In Russia kids who join the nashi or "youth army" are by the age of 18 at most 10 years experienced in military combat, tactics and leadership, plus a lot of other things

There's a giant difference there see?

But that doesn't really matter right now for this conversation, it's more like, why are people in the US not taking care to bring up their kids strong as their used to be? Why do they don't care about it anymore?

Actually here's the actual question:

*Why are the western parents letting their kids grow dumb year by year*

Wow, interesting stuff. I had no idea about the Nashi.

No one does at this point of time, yet.. Or what is implied there

Young people have had alot of bad ideas planted in their heads that can't be removed by words alone

Image if something could be done about it, "too much time and money" better "let them just go the way we wanted them to go in the first place"

Young people in the US can indulge bad ideas because they aren't exposed enough to reality.

I'm in a kind of shock i can't describe.. Not really

There's a whole movement here being taught mostly in universities but increasingly in high school and grade school too - it's called postmodernism - that is aggressively anti-reality. We need to fight it with equal or superior aggression in my view. What better way than the military?

Postmodernism or skepticism is something we learn in other parts of the world, just not as the "final thought process of our times and it is either this or the highway". I found that a lot of western people always consider what they learned in school as "this is it" or "this is final, there's nothing more to learn' scope. They never seem to try to figure out that there's more to learn, and i don't know but to me, it seems "white" as in naive

Why are western parents letting their kids grow dumber year by year? Well, there's a ton to parse out there, and I'm too tired to do it. But one thing is this: the US takes great pride in equal treatment, tolerance, and freedom for all. But that's all been bastardized to the point where we're now tolerating intolerance, and we're calling it "diversity". "Diversity" and "inclusivity" are really just code words for enforced conformity, but it's being sold as this wonderful progessive journey towards another bullsh!t idea: "equity". Equity does not mean equality, it means enforced outcomes. It means social Marxism. So this is sort of the holy trinity of obfuscation. It's also placed itself front and center, and left math and science and pretty much everything else in it's shadow. Our obsession with this nonsense has taken priority over all else, including what we used to think of as education. So that's why we're getting so dumb, in a nutshell...our educators have become activists and they're passing the poison down from generation to generation

I don't want to go live in the US.....................

[I am B]

Well, myself personally I rather blame the previous generations. Future ones (and mine) suck, but I understand it as a consequence of the previous one's acts.

People who pushed themselves out of a world war (or civil in my case), managed to build a life from dust despite the incredibly hard situation, got their freedoms back, and led a small "new age of prosperity". Then, a generation of kids spoiled by the good will of their hard working parents (who had suffered before) came, namely the generation of 68'. Before them, rebels were praised (vietnam war, segregation, etc) so they became rebels in an epoch of abundancy, and lost all the freedoms their parents gave them on the meanwhile. They were too busy scoring small moral points as false rebels while supporting a soul eroding establishment.

Trying to be like the praised rebels there were before, and with the comfort of economical prosperity, they got comfy and lost all our freedoms for it.

Now they are still those rebels, still scoring those small moral points, too busy blaming it on us or on twitter to actually do something while waiting for (or already embracing) retirement.

I was born before the 2000s. I remember suffering an economical crisis in 2008. And since then, NO ONE has been doing good with money. NO ONE is happy with the political situation. And NO ONE is doing ANYTHING but waitching and complaining. Nothing got better (rather the opposite) for more than a decade, and everyone just keeps scoring the mentioned moral points, following one false idol after another because theyre too lazy to do somethig themselves. All while teaching the younger generations in schools and universities this "good for nothing rebellion" yet as an excuse for still not doing anything. Leaving us, the newer generations, broken, both by the world's situation and the "excuses" we got for teachings.

It just makes my blood boil when people brag about military service. We used to have it here in spain, and Its proof of what I'm saying. You wont see 40s generations bragging about an abusive career-breaking military service for a dictator regime, rather the opposite, but then 60s/70s generations, would all brag about how they made it through and how useless and unfair it was, just because its easier to complain about it as a "rebel boost" ("I know how unfair the world can be! I did the military service! It sucked!") , rather than making something about it and holding on to the consequences. This mentality is what gave birth to Wokeism imho.

I mean no offense. I know here in avalon there are many "Oldies" And I know not everyone is the same. There are probably many people working to improve the world here from all generations, so I hope no one takes it personally.
I just hope, that everyone old and young takes a step back to see when and why we happened to gain and lose our rights, and how previous generations molded the next ones.

A "wide" and sincere overlook is the only way to solve problems that extend through generations.

Rant out!

[Mike]

In the 60's there were very real civil rights issues that needed fixing. And we had some civil rights heroes that did just that. Now, with most of those issues resolved to a significant degree, people are manufacturing grievances. They're just making stuff up. And a whole movement was born to resolve and grapple with it, called 'social justice'. So what we have now are loads of phony grievances and a phony way of addressing those phony grievances that's being taught in grade school, high school and universities. It's a carnival. It's an absurd charade masquerading as a civil rights movement. But it's not just a phony civil rights movement; it's also dominating the curriculum in all our educational systems. It's making us dumb

I saw a university professor say, not too long ago, that there's no such thing as biological sex. This is what happens when political correctness runs amok in a postmodern America that values feelings over facts. This is the end game. Absolute lunacy.

I took some journalism classes few years ago, and I was quite naive about all this stuff then. In one class we were separated into groups, and in my group there was a black man and black woman, me, and a white woman. These were all 18 and 19 yr old kids, so I felt weird enough to begin with.

One of the very first things the white girl says to me is that she only dates Asian guys. At the moment it seemed like such a strange thing to say that I immediately dismissed it. And then as I was leaving class I thought to myself, oh f#ckin hell, that idiot thinks I like her or something and she's kind of preemptively rejecting me.. This left me annoyed because I wasn't interested in her at all. But then Iater I realized that wasn't it either...

By announcing she only dated Asians she was virtue signaling to me and the rest of the group. That's what she was doing. Another thing she'd do was announce her latest symptom or disorder, as if compelled by force. Just name the symptom - if she didn't have it currently she had it in the past or would most certainly have it in the future. And she had all the hip mental disorders of the month too: ADHD, anxiety disorder etc. She practically bragged about them. And looking back I think she felt she had to as a means of keeping up in this game of victim olympics we play here now. As a white, it wasn't enough to merely be a female...she needed additional reasons to earn her "oppression" card, so she just invented sh!t. I don't even know if she knew she was doing it anymore. She'd been lying so long that she appeared to believe her own lies.

This is what it's come to here in the US Masha. And that's why I'm always going on about it. It's insane..it's just bloody insane. I fear our youth are irreversibly corrupted, and it's not obvious to me that there's anything can be done about it

[Open Minded Dude]

Posted by Mike (here)
One of the very first things the white girl says to me is that she only dates Asian guys. At the moment it seemed like such a strange thing to say that I immediately dismissed it. And then as I was leaving class I thought to myself, oh f#ckin hell, that idiot thinks I like her or something and she's kind of preemptively rejecting me.. This left me annoyed because I wasn't interested in her at all. But then Iater I realized that wasn't it either...

By announcing she only dated Asians she was virtue signaling to me and the rest of the group. That's what she was doing.

Makes me laugh because this could have backfired easily by turning the tables on her 'logic'. When she says she dates only Asian guys she excludes other minorities (not talking about anti-white here even) namely e.g. black or native-american or whatever guys.

So wouldn't any 'keen' SJW immediately be able to point that out and find it 'raaacccccist' that she was actually indirectly stating that she does not date black guys?

[Mike]

Posted by Open Minded Dude (here)

Posted by Mike (here)
One of the very first things the white girl says to me is that she only dates Asian guys. At the moment it seemed like such a strange thing to say that I immediately dismissed it. And then as I was leaving class I thought to myself, oh f#ckin hell, that idiot thinks I like her or something and she's kind of preemptively rejecting me.. This left me annoyed because I wasn't interested in her at all. But then Iater I realized that wasn't it either...

By announcing she only dated Asians she was virtue signaling to me and the rest of the group. That's what she was doing.

Makes me laugh because this could have backfired easily by turning the tables on her 'logic'. When she says she dates only Asian guys she excludes other minorities (not talking about anti-white here even) namely e.g. black or native-american or whatever guys.

So wouldn't any 'keen' SJW immediately be able to point that out and find it 'raaacccccist' that she was actually indirectly stating that she does not date black guys?

That's a great point!

But I think what she was really saying is, I don't date white guys. It didn't matter that her statement was ultimately racist towards all other groups, because in her mind dating Asians exclusively - as a white girl - earned her way more social justice points than it may have lost for her. That's the feeling I got from it all anyway

[Bubu]

I have no desire to blame anyone,past, present or future generations and not expecting anyone to care of me I don't need anyone to. I have already invented a device that will stop my heart on sleep when I no longer want to live.

As to becoming strong and resilient, I have found out that taking "quite time outs" and "deep breaths" put me on track whenever I went astray.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posted by Mike (here)
In another thread I suggested all young people should be required to serve in the military for one year. Many young people are so far removed from reality that I can think of no better way to reacquaint them with it than a year of military training.

Didn't the military 'go woke' though? I saw something about this a while ago, a new Army recruitment video on youtube that was woke as hell. It talked all about 'inclusivity' and 'diversity' in today's Army, and it seemed the star-spangled banner had been replaced by the LGBT flag or something. It was that bad. In fact so awful, they had to disable the comments. There were memes flying around soon after though, including one where the Taliban didn't need weapons to defeat the US military anymore, they'd simply shout the wrong pronouns across the battlefield and demoralize them that way. A joke perhaps, but you get the point.

If we view the schools and universities as indoctrination centres, then the military is indoctrination bootcamp. Military service may have served years ago as a kick up the arse for wayward youth, but I think those days are gone.

What concerns me the most about wokeism, is how it weaponizes the word 'truth'. Repeat a lie long enough, it eventually becomes the truth. That's where these kids are - living under the illusion of a grand lie. And the upshot is, their ability (and desire) to seek the truth for themselves gets closed down. My truthseeking journey began when I was a teenager, and I'm still on it, it will never end. But what about them?

Their truth is spoonfed to them by woke teachers and professors, twitter / Tiktok / celebrity culture, and reinforced by the evening news. It's so drilled into their brains they've become mentally hamstrung by it. Listen to us? Not a chance. Anyone older than 40 is a dinosaur boomer and a waste of skin. In their eyes we are racist, homophobic, transphobic, everything-phobic, and have nothing worthy to say.

Of course not all young people are this way, as it really depends how susceptible one is to manipulation. Some are bright enough to see through it and think for themselves. Hope lies with them...

But you only have to look around the forum to get a sense of how rare they are. How many Avalon members - truthseekers - are there under 25? Any teens engaging on the forum, digging and searching for themselves? I don't see any. This is something that's bothered me for a while.