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    Quote Posted by pabranno (here)
    Just a quick aside… I could have said this on any number of threads…
    I am offended by comments which refer to those who aren’t ‘enlightened as ‘ignorant’’ etc.
    as if we somehow are inherently superior beings by and those ‘others’ are repugnant unworthy and clearly inferior souls.

    Millions of souls are chained for hours in a rice paddy field, etc etc etc etc etc ,
    and have no spare energy/resource to delve into deeper reality.

    It is soooo easy to feel superior and smug because we can see much that others do not.

    No doubt some of it IS willful ignorance.
    That’s not for me to judge.

    It is for me to be vigilant, discerning, and compassionate

    I am deeply grateful I have been allowed the resources and desire to seek and understand deeper.


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    Apologies for the bad word. I am not English so I might have given it a wrong meaning. correct me if I am wrong. "ignorant" comes from the word ignore and the opposite would be vigilant. Ignoring something does not make one inferior in most cases its good because "ignorance is bliss"

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    I was going through the links provided by Paula and this caught my attention.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...n-3-Easy-Steps

    I think it all boils down to confidence, to not panic. I do not doubt for a second that I can survive alone or with some people. I have survive a number of times getting lost in the forest, being poisoned by mushroom while alone in the wilderness etc. And that gives me the confidence. I think all people have the innate knowledge of survival. However that innate knowledge should come out before panic or before death. BUT i don't want to survive I want to thrive I don't want shortage I want abundance. That's what I am working for. If I am to live I shall live happily and that requires people around me to be happy as well. vibes is contagious me thinks.

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    There were four major turning points. Looking back I approached them as a new chapter in life. I’ll be brief because I’ve shared much of this before:
    1) The day before my 18th birthday, I filled a brown paper bag with some clothes and a few books and hitched a ride across state lines to begin a new life. I had an apartment and in the fall registered for my last year of high school and worked a 3rd shift job.

    2) I filled up my VW with essentials for my son and I and drove away from our new home that became a house.

    3) A week before I began my last semester at college, the TV began to flame. I grabbed my son while he grabbed his teddy bear. The volunteer fire department didn’t believe our apartment was engulfed in flames because there were two false alarms in the complex that day.
    I know I have it in me to weather whatever comes next. In many respects, the worst is behind me. The spirit within knows no bounds. All I have to do is remember that if/when the time comes. But I’d add that I don’t sense the doom and gloom coming on as strong as we’ve been lead to believe, or perhaps life has prepared me on how to roll with it all.


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    I apologize Bubu. I misunderstood and I became self righteous and insensitive. I so enjoy your posts.
    Please forgive me and do not take it to heart
    MY BooBoo…..(English slang for ‘I made a stupid mistake’
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    Quote Posted by pabranno (here)
    I apologize Bubu. I misunderstood and I became self righteous and insensitive. I so enjoy your posts.
    Please forgive me and do not take it to heart
    MY BooBoo…..(English slang for ‘I made a stupid mistake’
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    Let's say this SHORTAGE descended into real shortage, people are getting hungry while I have a stash good for one year. Do you think I will be able to sleep at night without holding a gun knowing that people around me has children that are hungry? This is the reason I am not into prepping. Right now I am into production and teaching/ encouraging people how to produce. I don't see me living peacefully while people around me are hungry and problematic. That is simply not possible whether I like it or not. Anyone who have a supply for two years while people around him is hungry should build an impenetrable house.

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    Apparently Britain is facing a 'pie crisis' due to a lack of aluminium to make foil, most of the world's aluminium production comes from China. Honestly, is this country so lacking in basic cooking skills that no one knows how to make a pie from scratch?

    Here's a brilliant take on this latest 'crisis' from Andrew Lawrence, but - WARNING - it's got quite a bit of profanity, so don't watch if you're easily offended. Only 2 minutes long.


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    Let's say this SHORTAGE descended into real shortage, people are getting hungry while I have a stash good for one year. Do you think I will be able to sleep at night without holding a gun knowing that people around me has children that are hungry? This is the reason I am not into prepping. Right now I am into production and teaching/ encouraging people how to produce. I don't see me living peacefully while people around me are hungry and problematic. That is simply not possible whether I like it or not. Anyone who have a supply for two years while people around him is hungry should build an impenetrable house.
    Why only prep learning? Do you know how to can food? Its actually preety easy, and you can teach people around you so they can save whatever they have remaining in the fridge in case there is a lasting power outage or famine. Teaching to produce as you say. But what is it worth if you starve to death on the first 10 days? (or 40, whatever) Prepping is not about hoarding, its about making it through. Prep to survive too, so you can help people like you suggest.

    "There are 9 meals between peace and anarchy. " said someone. But potatos don't grow in that time as far as I know.
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    Let's say this SHORTAGE descended into real shortage, people are getting hungry while I have a stash good for one year. Do you think I will be able to sleep at night without holding a gun knowing that people around me has children that are hungry? This is the reason I am not into prepping. Right now I am into production and teaching/ encouraging people how to produce. I don't see me living peacefully while people around me are hungry and problematic. That is simply not possible whether I like it or not. Anyone who have a supply for two years while people around him is hungry should build an impenetrable house.
    You may be missing part of the problem here. One also needs to consider all this:
    • Parts for your plumbing system (joints, valves, washers, filters, silicon sealing tape)
    • Anything electrical that might need repair (switches, connectors, sockets, electrical tape)
    • Easy-to-replace spare parts for your car (bulbs, fuses, filters, spark plugs, oil)
    • Any tools that you might need, including for your garden (don't forget things like spare wooden handles, drill bits, some wood and metal components to make things with, epoxy glue, duck tape, masking tape, screws, bolts and nails of every size, rope, wire, etc etc etc)
    • Basic first aid supplies
    • Soap, washing powder, personal toiletries
    • ... and much more. Anything you might ever need and then suddenly can't find.
    It's not just about food!

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    yes Bill you're absolutely correct. Its wrong for me to say I am not prepping. As part of my prepping I have built a mobile corn thresher and mill that runs on petrol. Eventually this will run on wood gas if things get to that point. More machine to come. And this is intended to cater to 3 adjacent villages. I guess I am done prepping for myself and family as I have an entire arsenal that is needed to construct a hotel from bottom up inside out or maybe its not yet time to do so. More prepping to come for entire villages. I am working for entire villages to be self sustainable. That's my goal and I don't expect anyone to go that route. Those who are not as skilled as I am should definitely prep more. My point is if you have to prep, at least include some people if you can.

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    Let's say this SHORTAGE descended into real shortage, people are getting hungry while I have a stash good for one year. Do you think I will be able to sleep at night without holding a gun knowing that people around me has children that are hungry? This is the reason I am not into prepping. Right now I am into production and teaching/ encouraging people how to produce. I don't see me living peacefully while people around me are hungry and problematic. That is simply not possible whether I like it or not. Anyone who have a supply for two years while people around him is hungry should build an impenetrable house.
    Why only prep learning? Do you know how to can food? Its actually preety easy, and you can teach people around you so they can save whatever they have remaining in the fridge in case there is a lasting power outage or famine. Teaching to produce as you say. But what is it worth if you starve to death on the first 10 days? (or 40, whatever) Prepping is not about hoarding, its about making it through. Prep to survive too, so you can help people like you suggest.

    "There are 9 meals between peace and anarchy. " said someone. But potatos don't grow in that time as far as I know.
    When TSHTF where are we going to get a supply of cans. . Most of my prepping is learning. How to preserve veggies on charcoal and without electricity. Things like that, that is entirely independent of big factories. We have become too dependent on technologies and the goal of the elite now is to withdraw all those tech. So prepping is about surviving without those.

    food is not going to banish in a month. I have a complete line of hunting tools also. I have mushroom spawn that can be harvested within 14 days from planting and other fast growing seeds. I think I am done prepping. Though not stacking on food. it may come later. for now I dont see it is needed.
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    Let's say this SHORTAGE descended into real shortage, people are getting hungry while I have a stash good for one year. Do you think I will be able to sleep at night without holding a gun knowing that people around me has children that are hungry? This is the reason I am not into prepping. Right now I am into production and teaching/ encouraging people how to produce. I don't see me living peacefully while people around me are hungry and problematic. That is simply not possible whether I like it or not. Anyone who have a supply for two years while people around him is hungry should build an impenetrable house.
    Why only prep learning? Do you know how to can food? Its actually preety easy, and you can teach people around you so they can save whatever they have remaining in the fridge in case there is a lasting power outage or famine. Teaching to produce as you say. But what is it worth if you starve to death on the first 10 days? (or 40, whatever) Prepping is not about hoarding, its about making it through. Prep to survive too, so you can help people like you suggest.

    "There are 9 meals between peace and anarchy. " said someone. But potatos don't grow in that time as far as I know.
    When TSHTF where are we going to get a supply of cans. . Most of my prepping is learning. How to preserve veggies on charcoal and without electricity. Things like that, that is entirely independent of big factories. We have become too dependent on technologies and the goal of the elite now is to withdraw all those tech. So prepping is about surviving without those.

    food is not going to banish in a month. I have a complete line of hunting tools also. I have mushroom spawn that can be harvested within 14 days from planting and other fast growing seeds. I think I am done prepping. Though not stacking on food. it may come later. for now I dont see it is needed.
    Thats solid! It was mostly in case you lived in the city or so, but it surely doesn't look like so!

    For the canning, you just need glass pots, like the ones with pickles, etc. (can be recycled) Then its fairly easy to do with water and a fireplace. But that would be a matter for a whole other thread!

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    I own a relatively small business we manufacture and distribute craft soda syrups for fountain dispensing in restaurants. We have to follow the business model established years ago by the big soda companies. Whenever we land a new account we have to place the fountain equipment and maintain the system for 24-7 so the restaurant account always has the beverages available for the customers. The average system cost for an 8 valve ice beverage combo unit is about 5K so it takes a while before we breakeven and start making money.

    The 2020 shutdowns for covid impacted our business dramatically due to big soda controlling almost all of the quick serve restaurants that still sold sodas in the drive through windows. We struggled through 2020 and without the help of gov handouts we would have been done in 2020. We recovered nicely in late 2020 and things took off for us in March of this year. We are now dealing the supply chain from hell. Every day we are getting price hikes and we have had to more than double up on the ingredients and packaging materials we use to make our products. Some of the increases have been dramatic like citric acid going from $.90/lb to $$2.75/lb 5 gallon boxes from $.92 each to $1.46 each. Just finding some of the materials has been difficult. Our lead times from extract suppliers has gone from 3 weeks to 8 weeks.

    I went through hell and back to get this company to where it is today with no capital to start with and my first 2 landlords were bat chit crazy lunatics that did everything they could to destroy me and my business. Holy crap when does it let up?

    Anyone want to buy a thriving craft soda company in the great state of Texas?

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    Let's say this SHORTAGE descended into real shortage, people are getting hungry while I have a stash good for one year. Do you think I will be able to sleep at night without holding a gun knowing that people around me has children that are hungry? This is the reason I am not into prepping. Right now I am into production and teaching/ encouraging people how to produce. I don't see me living peacefully while people around me are hungry and problematic. That is simply not possible whether I like it or not. Anyone who have a supply for two years while people around him is hungry should build an impenetrable house.
    Why only prep learning? Do you know how to can food? Its actually preety easy, and you can teach people around you so they can save whatever they have remaining in the fridge in case there is a lasting power outage or famine. Teaching to produce as you say. But what is it worth if you starve to death on the first 10 days? (or 40, whatever) Prepping is not about hoarding, its about making it through. Prep to survive too, so you can help people like you suggest.

    "There are 9 meals between peace and anarchy. " said someone. But potatos don't grow in that time as far as I know.
    When TSHTF where are we going to get a supply of cans. . Most of my prepping is learning. How to preserve veggies on charcoal and without electricity. Things like that, that is entirely independent of big factories. We have become too dependent on technologies and the goal of the elite now is to withdraw all those tech. So prepping is about surviving without those.

    food is not going to banish in a month. I have a complete line of hunting tools also. I have mushroom spawn that can be harvested within 14 days from planting and other fast growing seeds. I think I am done prepping. Though not stacking on food. it may come later. for now I dont see it is needed.
    Thats solid! It was mostly in case you lived in the city or so, but it surely doesn't look like so!

    For the canning, you just need glass pots, like the ones with pickles, etc. (can be recycled) Then its fairly easy to do with water and a fireplace. But that would be a matter for a whole other thread!
    Canning with glass bottles? But yeah I get the idea and thanks for the reminder. I should start saving those glass jars. I have tried my hands on this couple of times.
    I use to be in construction business with some people working for me. Not the big one with heavy equipment. We only have the basic tools and simple machines. Nevertheless we were able to construct house/building. More than 40. I am now relieve of family duty so I am working to get my lifelong goal become a reality. I now work part time as a professional handyman and inventor. I design and construct costume equipment. Mostly for agri. businesses. So yeah that's a solid background to fulfill my goal. As the saying goes. "Anything you know is simple". I have thought/plan for this for decades. I have actually wrote to Bill Gates foundation back in 2005 (not knowing what it is for) and other foundations to seek for financial assistance for the farmers and fishermen coop that I organize. Farmers and fishermen is the most exploited people here. So I made it my goal to empower them. I know what to do. Its not that big and difficult as some may think. I am not going to feed the whole villages. What I am going to do is to give them the pieces of the puzzle that's missing in order for them to be self sufficient. Its a lifelong plan And partly prepping because of the urgency as the SHORTAGE has now begun. This can no longer wait. I am glad I am finally into it.

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    Quote Posted by Waldo (here)
    I own a relatively small business we manufacture and distribute craft soda syrups for fountain dispensing in restaurants. We have to follow the business model established years ago by the big soda companies. Whenever we land a new account we have to place the fountain equipment and maintain the system for 24-7 so the restaurant account always has the beverages available for the customers. The average system cost for an 8 valve ice beverage combo unit is about 5K so it takes a while before we breakeven and start making money.

    The 2020 shutdowns for covid impacted our business dramatically due to big soda controlling almost all of the quick serve restaurants that still sold sodas in the drive through windows. We struggled through 2020 and without the help of gov handouts we would have been done in 2020. We recovered nicely in late 2020 and things took off for us in March of this year. We are now dealing the supply chain from hell. Every day we are getting price hikes and we have had to more than double up on the ingredients and packaging materials we use to make our products. Some of the increases have been dramatic like citric acid going from $.90/lb to $$2.75/lb 5 gallon boxes from $.92 each to $1.46 each. Just finding some of the materials has been difficult. Our lead times from extract suppliers has gone from 3 weeks to 8 weeks.

    I went through hell and back to get this company to where it is today with no capital to start with and my first 2 landlords were bat chit crazy lunatics that did everything they could to destroy me and my business. Holy crap when does it let up?

    Anyone want to buy a thriving craft soda company in the great state of Texas?
    Sad to hear another story of struggle to survive. Trust me its now the common tale. The first to be hit by this shortage are the ones that is dependent on big factories and businesses. They are closing the taps up there. Then those that makes money (trading or buy and sell). Those that are making goods out of something that the controller have no control are the ones that will survive and thrive.

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    A rather apocalyptic (but possibly quite realistic) new article by Michael Synder from The Economic Collapse Blog.
    Our Epic Supply Chain Crisis Just Hit Another Level, And Biden Is Considering Calling In The National Guard To Help

    It is the month of October, and right now many Americans are more scared by the state of our national supply chains than by anything else. Some of the things that I am going to share with you in this article are truly frightening, and I would very much encourage you to take them seriously. Our economic infrastructure is failing on a massive scale, and officials are openly admitting that things will get even worse in the months ahead. We are in uncharted territory, because none of us has ever seen anything like this before. If our leaders cannot get this fixed, 2022 is going to be a truly nightmarish year.

    Of course just last week Joe Biden gave a big speech in which he assured all of us that he was implementing measures which would soon turn things around.

    Unfortunately, just like with Afghanistan, the southern border, inflation and so many other problems, our supply chain crisis has gotten even worse now that Biden is personally involved. On Tuesday, it was being reported that the number of vessels backed up off the coast of southern California has just hit a brand new record high
    The nation’s largest ports shattered more records Monday as massive bottlenecks at the Ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach continue to wreak supply chain havoc.
    The Marine Exchange of Southern California reported 100 vessels berthed October 18, topping the previous record of 97 set September 19.

    A single container ship can hold thousands upon thousands of enormous shipping containers, and so we are talking about a backlog of absolutely immense proportions.

    It would take many months just to work through a backlog of this magnitude even if the ports in southern California were making progress in paring it down.

    But instead of making progress, the backlog just continues to get even deeper.

    As the supply chain crisis escalates, the Biden administration has actively been considering using the National Guard on an emergency basis…
    White House officials have explored in recent weeks whether the National Guard could be deployed to help address the nation’s mounting supply chain backlog, three people with knowledge of the matter said.
    The idea appears unlikely to proceed as of now, the people said, but reflects the extent to which internal administration deliberations about America’s overwhelmed supply chain have sparked outside-the-box proposals to leverage government resources to address the issue.

    This is how serious things have become.

    Our supply chains are in such a state of chaos that the Biden administration is actually thinking of doing something that has never been done before in American history.

    Of course publicly they are still trying to put a happy face on things, but privately administration officials are really freaking out.

    And things could soon get a lot worse.

    Today, approximately 85 percent of all magnesium production in the world happens in China. We should have never allowed ourselves to become so dependent on China, because now we are facing a critical shortage of magnesium, and that could result in a nightmarish shortage of aluminum
    The source of the shortage is China’s monopoly on global magnesium production. Production curbs of energy-intensive smelters have reduced the industrial metal’s output, resulting in dwindling stockpiles in Europe and North America.
    Barclays analyst Amos Fletcher told clients in a note that “there are no substitutes for magnesium in aluminum sheet and billet production.” He warned if “magnesium supply stops,” the entire auto industry will grind to a halt.

    Oh.

    That is bad.

    What I first read that, I just sat there stunned for a moment.

    Are things really that crazy already?

    Yes, they are. In fact, we are being told that magnesium reserves in Europe will be completely exhausted “at the end of November 2021 at the latest”
    “It is expected that the current magnesium reserves in Germany and throughout Europe will be exhausted in a few weeks at the end of November 2021 at the latest,” the group said. “In the event of a supply bottleneck of this magnitude, there is a risk of massive production losses.”
    Needless to say, it wouldn’t just be the auto industry that grinds to a halt.
    Just think of how many food and beverage products come in aluminum cans.

    I don’t know if I even have sufficient words to describe how serious this is.
    Meanwhile, it is also being reported that we are potentially facing a propane “armageddon” this winter…
    The expanding energy crisis is causing propane to rocket higher (read: here) as supplies dwindle to below seasonal levels as research firm IHS Markit Ltd. warns of “armageddon” during the Northern Hemisphere winter.
    IHS analyst Edgar Ang told attendees during a virtual presentation on Tuesday that US propane inventories are at a record low and will be extremely tight as cold weather is ahead.

    That isn’t good.

    Millions of Americans use propane to heat their homes. So what are those millions of Americans going to do when supplies of propane run out?

    If you use propane to heat your home and you don’t have a back up plan, you need to start developing one right now.

    As if things weren’t bad enough already, the absurd mandates that our politicians are pushing on all of us threaten to make things far, far worse.

    Let me give you just one example
    Union Pacific Railroad is the latest company to board the mandatory vaccine train.
    The company’s 31,000 employees across 23 states have been given just under two months to comply or face additional consequences.

    We are already having enormous problems getting things transported across the country, and trains are a key part of that equation.

    So what would happen if thousands upon thousands of highly experienced railroad workers are suddenly railroaded out of their jobs?

    Of course similar scenarios will be playing out in industry after industry in the months ahead.

    The stage is perfectly being set for so many of the things that I have been warning about, and I am entirely convinced that we will soon see extreme economic pain all across the nation.

    In this sort of an economic environment, there is no way that our politicians should even be considering any sort of mandates.

    But they are pushing ahead anyway, and we are all going to feel the consequences very deeply.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    A rather apocalyptic (but possibly quite realistic) new article by Michael Synder from The Economic Collapse Blog.
    Our Epic Supply Chain Crisis Just Hit Another Level, And Biden Is Considering Calling In The National Guard To Help
    Mike Adams, in his Situation Update for today, tends to agree.

    Start in at 12:53, and the section ends at 36:39.

    https://brighteon.com/ca618304-e94f-...0-369eff3a8d94

    Source: https://www.brighteon.com/embed/ca618304-e94f-4dc2-b3c0-369eff3a8d94

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    I went into 3 supermarkets this morning, supplies were very good at all of them and there was lots of top stock - surplus that they keep on the top of the shelves. Car fuel supplies are back to normal, but the price of a litre is now £1.41 round our way (or £5.64 per gallon, that's US $7.78).

    If that's how things are in other parts of the country, now's a good time in the UK to top up emergency reserves.

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    I'm not sure this has been posted before, couldn't find it.

    Austrian defense ministry (if I didn't get it wrong) issues a energy blackout prepping pamphlet, and made a video published on the 6th of October , probably filmed a few weeks previously (which is a bit "weird", huge anticipation) talking about it.

    The website specifically mentions "Whole Europe long duration blackouts" in the title.

    http://bundesheer.at/archiv/a2021/bl...blackout.shtml

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    We are now looking at a severe short supply of magnesium, which in turn will lead to issues with not just the auto trade of manufacturing cars, lorries and parts for already existing automobiles...but also the food industry as it will impact tins for food and drinks.

    I’m not posting from a perspective of fear or fear mongering, I just think we can gain good insight into what areas are being (quite clearly now intentionally) hit on.

    It appears they are hitting the vehicles and transport from every angle now.

    They have slowly and quite inconspicuously been closing ALL the small driving theory test centres in towns around the U.K. since last March and you can now only access a theory test by going into a main City Centre test centre...which aren’t always easy to access if you don’t drive and has also caused even bigger backlogs for people waiting to pass their driving tests.

    During a time when the DVLA are aware there is in excess of 70,000 people waiting to get a driving test and over 90,000 waiting to get their HGV license, why would DVLA be closing test centres and making the backlog even longer???

    Reports coming through seem to say most places are running low on magnesium already and once those stocks have depleted (this side of Xmas for the U.K.) we will struggle.

    https://www.mining.com/global-shorta...-car-industry/

    It’s like a giant game of jenga now. They know if they keep pulling strategic blocks out of the pile eventually the whole stack is going to fall down
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