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    Default Re: Mainstream vs. Alternative

    Quote Posted by Star Mariner (here)
    That's the only picture I was trying to paint. Because when I hear the left media, I'm like, "that's manipulation," or "that's race baiting," or "that's just bullsh!t." But when I find myself watching or listening to the right-leaning media on these cultural or social talking points I'm like, "yup, that's true," or "yup, that's the way I see it," or "yup, I totally agree."

    Make no mistake, there is a war raging against us and around us. At stake are our minds and our very souls. I firmly believe that. And the only ones in the mainstream media who seem to be taking any kind of stand, offering any kind of antidote to the insanity, are the right-leaning ones.

    For me, it's as simple as that.
    I'm glad this is finally being laid out squarely on the table on this thread. To me there's nothing wrong with being right leaning, left leaning, or whatever way of leaning, any way of leaning is legitimate in my book. Even if it's disagreeable.

    If one prefers right leaning media, then they are preferable to a right a leaning way of looking at the world; and conversely, one who is preferable to left leaning media, is preferable to a left leaning way of looking at the world. There's just no way around that.

    But up until just recently here on this thread, I was finding it quite confounding that even though pretty much the only news *and* commentary being presented across the full forum spectrum has been right leaning since the advent of Trump, but for some reason it couldn't be said.

    Now again I think that's just fine, it's totally legitimate, I'm just happy it's coming out of the closet so to speak.

    I do still have a problem with outlets such as FOX, OAN and Newsmax not being considered mainstream news, because they most certainly are, they aren't exempt just for the fact that one may find their presentations palatable.

    Speaking of which:

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    John, please, save for the fact that FOX NEWS is part of the mainstream vs. Alternative universe, this post is way off topic, and should have gone to a different discussion like the breaking news thread or something.

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    Exclamation Re: Mainstream vs. Alternative

    • Alternative Media vs. Mainstream 2012: History, Jobs, Advertising - Radio-TV-Film, University of Texas

    Alternative Media 2012 are media (newspapers, radio, television, magazines, movies, Internet, etc.) which provide alternative information to the mainstream media in a given context, whether the mainstream media are commercial, publicly supported, or government-owned. Alternative media differ from mainstream media along one or more of the following dimensions: their content, aesthetic, modes of production, modes of distribution, and audience relations. Alternative media often aim to challenge existing powers, to represent marginalized groups, and to foster horizontal linkages among communities of interest. Proponents of alternative media argue that the mainstream media are biased in the selection and framing of news and information. While sources of alternative media can also be biased (sometimes proudly so), proponents claim that the bias is significantly different than that of the mainstream media because they have a different set of values, objectives, and frameworks. Hence these media provide an "alternative" viewpoint, different information and interpretations of the world that cannot be found in the mainstream. As such, advocacy journalism tends to be a component of many alternative outlets. Because the term "alternative" has connotations of self-marginalization, some media outlets now prefer the term "independent" over "alternative". Several different categories of media may fall under the heading of alternative media. These include, but are not limited to, radical and dissident media, social movement media, ethnic/racial media, indigenous media, community media, subcultural media, student media, and avant-garde media. Each of these categories highlights the perceived shortcomings of dominant media to serve particular audiences, aims and interests, and attempts to overcome these shortcomings through their own media. The traditional, binary definition of alternative media as stated above has been expanded in the last decade. Simply comparing alternative media to the mainstream media ignores the profound effect that making media has on the makers. As producers and actors within their community, modern alternative media activists redefine their self-image, their interpretation of citizenship, and their world. Clemencia Rodriguez explains, "I could see how producing alternative media messages implies much more than simply challenging the mainstream media ... It implies having the opportunity to create one's own images of self and environment; it implies being able to recodify one's own identity with the signs and codes that one chooses, thereby disrupting the traditional acceptance of those imposed by outside sources." With the increasing importance attributed to digital technologies, questions have arisen about where digital media fit in the dichotomy between alternative and mainstream media. Blogs, Facebook, Twitter and other similar sites, while not necessarily created to be information media, increasingly are being used to spread news and information, potentially acting as alternative media as they allow ordinary citizens to bypass the gatekeepers of traditional, mainstream media and share the information and perspectives these citizens deem important. Additionally, digital media provide an alternative space for deviant, dissident or non-traditional views, and allow for the creation of new, alternative communities that can provide a voice for those normally marginalized by the mainstream media. However, some have criticized the weaknesses of the Web. First, for its ability to act as both "alternative and a mass medium brings with it the tension of in-group and out-group communication." Second, the Web "rarely lives up to its potential" with constraints to access. Digital technologies have also led to an alternative form of video more commonly known as citizen generated journalism. Individuals and smaller groups have the potential to describe and make public their interpretations of the world. Video shot on camcorders, FLIP cameras, and now cell phones have been utilized by the alternative media to commonly show human rights abuses. In turn the mainstream media picks up on these videos when it fits their narrative of what it deems "newsworthy".
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    Default Re: Mainstream vs. Alternative

    It's is not that simple.

    To propose platitudes that the left leaning mainstream media is just another slant on the news, is incorrect.

    My buddy believes, and he is no sloucher but now he has me wondering, that the vax is perfectly safe, no one has died from it, and that it has some sort of palliative effect only on the most severely ill. He also believes that only the unvaccinated are in the ICU. He also believes the unvaxed are spreading the waves of infection. These are all talking points of the talking heads on the mainstream news channels. It is lies and misrepresentaion. It is dangerous when these agencies pretend to be delivering the news, and people believe it. And it is a joke that they spew their lies about covid and then the commercial is paid for by Phizer. Give me a break.

    The MSM does not get a pass. Had they done their jobs we would not have to mass migrate to alternate sites.
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    Default Re: Mainstream vs. Alternative

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    These two on "Breaking Points" I've come to trust in their news and commentary, and that's not easy let me tell you LOL! He's on the right and used to be a White House reporter, she's on the left and got purged from MSNBC, and they make a good odd couple team.

    But both have one thing in common from their mainstream experience: they've learned to not be bashful in critiquing their own side when deserved, which is taboo in the U.S. cable news regular operating procedures, and have found freedom of expression out on their own.

    I wouldn't classify Saager and Krystal as mainstream or alternative, they are more a product of Independent Media, after having learned from the school of hard knocks in the mainstream.

    They comment on how it is verboten to go on a left wing, or a right wing outlet, and go off script by critiquing the particular network or point of view that is interviewing you. You're expected to critique "the other", and by committing the ultimate sin of not abiding by that unwritted golden rule of partisan cable news, one can quickly find themselves, and the place they come from as well, given the cold shoulder and not be invited back.

    This is so true, and a big reason for America's ever widening great divide, they illustrate this perfectly in the following 7 minute segment:
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    Quote Posted by Gracy (here)
    These two on "Breaking Points" I've come to trust in their news and commentary, and that's not easy let me tell you LOL! He's on the right and used to be a White House reporter, she's on the left and got purged from MSNBC, and they make a good odd couple team.

    But both have one thing in common from their mainstream experience: they've learned to not be bashful in critiquing their own side when deserved, which is taboo in the U.S. cable news regular operating procedures, and have found freedom of expression out on their own.

    I wouldn't classify Saager and Krystal as mainstream or alternative, they are more a product of Independent Media, after having learned from the school of hard knocks in the mainstream.

    They comment on how it is verboten to go on a left wing, or a right wing outlet, and go off script by critiquing the particular network or point of view that is interviewing you. You're expected to critique "the other", and by committing the ultimate sin of not abiding by that unwritted golden rule of partisan cable news, one can quickly find themselves, and the place they come from as well, given the cold shoulder and not be invited back.

    This is so true, and a big reason for America's ever widening great divide, they illustrate this perfectly in the following 7 minute segment:
    Great short starting point clip to pass on to status quo friends/family that replaces having to put alternative journo's in their face which many will dismiss immediately as being conspiratorial.

    Kindergarten stuff for Avalon members but let's face it, many people we know are still peeing in nappies.

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    • Former Corporate Journalist Exposes Mainstream Media, Pins Down Exactly When Journalism Went Wrong:
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    • Joe Rogan DESTROYS MSM As Jon Stewart SLAMS Its LIES:
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    Default Re: Mainstream vs. Alternative

    Very interesting seeing the posts in this thread is very telling but Ill leave that up to you...

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