Mainstream vs. Alternative

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
The Democrats are a corporation, inextricably tied to and enmeshed with and beholden to the Global Corporate Network. The Republicans are a corporation, inextricably tied to and enmeshed with and beholden to the very same Global Corporate Network. Both corporations serve their corporate masters, not the people.

I totally agree, and there is no doubt that this is true. But I can't do a damn thing about macro-politics, about the money magic and warmongering of this "Globalist Corporate Machine". Left/Right, they're the same in this regard. But with the left's constant push to re-engineer (butcher) the moral and social fabric, hell yeh I'm going to plant my flag. And it isn't on the left anymore. I'm still pro environment and anti war, and stand for things like nuclear disarmament and many more classically liberal values, but the left today is insane. It's gone dark. Like evil dark. Thus now, in opposition to that, I consider myself "socially" conservative.

A different method of weighing the virtues (or hidden goals) of one side against another, is to consider who the cheerleaders are. Consider, for a moment, the blue checkmarks, the Hollyweird elites, who can ALWAYS be relied upon to prop up those MSN narratives. When the MSN starts a'bleating, they start a'tweeting the same song and dance, in the most vitriolic and divisive way possible and usually with "race card" in hand. It's like they don't have another setting. One gets the sneaking suspicion that...they're all in cahoots(!?)

It's another reason that I look more suspiciously askance upon the Left media than the Right media: because while the Right media are attacked, the Left media is constantly stroked and applauded, by members of a satanic/paedophilic death cult.




Left-wing Hollywood celebrities experienced a collective meltdown after a jury in Kenosha, Wisconsin, acquitted 18-year-old Kyle Rittenhouse of all charges on Friday. “I weep for this country,” one star lamented, while another claimed the verdict represented a victory for “white supremacy.”

Celebrities including Sophia Bush, Patton Oswalt, and Josh Gad took their cues from the establishment media by insisting on a racial angle to the verdict, even though all the parties in the case were white. Other celebrities simply vented their rage, like Alyssa Milano, who hurled expletives at her TV as the verdict was read.

“This is white supremacy in action,” Sophia Bush tweeted.

“So…the white guy goes free. Is that the message?” author Stephen King wrote.

“****ing not guilty,” Alyssa Milano despaired.

In one bizarre instance, ABC’s Scandal star Kerry Washington paid tribute to the two men Rittenhouse shot and killed out of self-defense — Joseph Rosenbaum, a pedophile sex offender, and Anthony Huber, a habitual woman beater.

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainm...-this-country/

[rgray222]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
What you're describing as 'right' and 'left' are really corporate neocons and corporate neolibs. You can find virtue in both the left and the right ideologies, but not in the corporate neocons and corporate neolibs - their fuel is psychopathic greed. The Democrats are a corporation, inextricably tied to and enmeshed with and beholden to the Global Corporate Network. The Republicans are a corporation, inextricably tied to and enmeshed with and beholden to the very same Global Corporate Network. Both corporations serve their corporate masters, not the people. You can prove this to yourself if you go through every piece of legislation passed in the past 50 years, and regardless of some doublespeak titles, you will have a massive pile of pro-corporate legislation but won't find any legislation that is actually pro-citizen or pro-environment. The Republican corporation may seem more "grounded" to you... (and to me, I'd add more honest: they do tell you to your face that they are about to perform a proctoscopic exam, and then do it; Democrats lie to you while they are doing the same exam.) ...but 'grounded' doesn't mean much when it is steeped in a background of obfuscation, lies, and cover-ups on the biggest stories of our lives.

The 2 political corporations in the US are a full-on disgrace, a pack of pirates and thugs connected to and controlled by the Global Corporate Network - the same global corporate network that owns all the mass media that continually lies to us, propagandizes us, gaslights us, from cradle to grave.

I don't think either political corporation should be lauded or followed or supported, even in times when one corporation's actors are more insane. Duopoly control of the US government is held together by pragmatism in the masses, choosing a 'lesser evil' rather than rejecting the 2 choices offered.

Dennis, I believe what you are saying has been true for quite some time, essentially the left and right are just different sides of the same coin doing the bidding of corporations. Around the world, today corporations have the power and the money so they get to dictate how things work. Americans (and most of the world) think their politicians have their best interest at heart nothing could be further from the truth. Modern legislation is sub-contracted to a segment of DC operations known as K-Street. That’s where the corporate lobbyists reside. Corporate lobbyists write the laws; congress and the media sell the laws; Corporations then pay congress lucrative commissions for passing their laws. That’s the modern legislative business in DC. When we talk about paying-off politicians in third-world countries we call it bribery. However, when we undertake the same process in the U.S. we call it “lobbying”. (Sadly, in today's world there is not a single person in congress writing legislation or laws.)

Now that being said this corrupt system in place today may still be much better than any alternatives that have shown up over the centuries, such as Socialism, Marxism, Dictator, Monarch, Oligarch and Autocracy or any hybrid form. I suppose that is for another discussion at another time.

My point here is that both political parties in the USA are undergoing massive change. The right is moving into the realm of the working class while the left is moving further into the world of elitism, big business and one-world government. Who would have ever believed that the working class and the anti One World Government are aligning on the right and their media (small as it is) is starting to reflect this change. The metamorphosis on the left seems to be much more extraordinary, the progressives are moving the party off the reservation towards Socialism, Marxism and a form of world control. This extremism poses a real dilemma for the progressives because they absolutely need big tech and big banks to accomplish their ultimate goal. So the political parties are no longer two sides of the same coin. They are two entirely different coins attempting to accomplish entirely different goals.

All this political sea change will eventually put the media into a very difficult political predicament. The vast majority of mainstream media are left-leaning and so far they seem to be siding with the progressives but I am not sure that is going to be in their long-term best interest. The progressives in the name of one-world government have been destroying institutions one at a time and two of the last institutions that they will jettison will be mainstream media and big tech. It remains to be seen how the media will respond to this change, so far not well and they appear to be on a self-destructive path.

Gracy my apologies for getting somewhat off track.

[Gracy]

Posted by Star Mariner (here)
It's another reason that I look more suspiciously askance upon the Left media than the Right media: because while the Right media are attacked, the Left media is constantly stroked and applauded, by members of a satanic/paedophilic death cult.


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Left-wing Hollywood celebrities experienced a collective meltdown after a jury in Kenosha, Wisconsin, acquitted 18-year-old Kyle Rittenhouse of all charges on Friday. “I weep for this country,” one star lamented, while another claimed the verdict represented a victory for “white supremacy.”

Celebrities including Sophia Bush, Patton Oswalt, and Josh Gad took their cues from the establishment media by insisting on a racial angle to the verdict, even though all the parties in the case were white. Other celebrities simply vented their rage, like Alyssa Milano, who hurled expletives at her TV as the verdict was read.

“This is white supremacy in action,” Sophia Bush tweeted.

“So…the white guy goes free. Is that the message?” author Stephen King wrote.

“****ing not guilty,” Alyssa Milano despaired.

In one bizarre instance, ABC’s Scandal star Kerry Washington paid tribute to the two men Rittenhouse shot and killed out of self-defense — Joseph Rosenbaum, a pedophile sex offender, and Anthony Huber, a habitual woman beater.

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainm...-this-country/

This is true Star Mariner. Point well taken!

But here's the catch: Most of us watch news that fits our overall narrative of how things are going on out there, and why. Corporate left media will always play to their demographic and howl at things that don't fit that narrative, and applaud those that do.

In this instance you used Breitbart, which is a corporate right outlet news source that does the same thing, they play to their demographic. If that verdict would have gone the other way they more than likely would have howled, but it turned out the way that fits their running narrative, so they applauded it.

I wasn't in that court room to see all the evidence, pro and con, that was presented, neither were any of us. So how do we know for ourselves whether Rittenhouse was really guilty or innocent in a (hopefully) neutral environment?

In this case from our perspective, I think it' was easy to root for Rittenhouse all along, based on the ridiculous narratives put forth from the corporate left.

What if the verdict had gone the other way? Now obviously it didn't, but there *may* have been evidence presented that he was indeed guilty, but for other reasons set totally aside from race relations, BLM, outside chatter, or whatever. It may have just been good old fashioned manslaughter, or something of the like...

We'll never know, but I wonder how Breitbart may have presented a guilty verdict to their particular audience?

And of course, vice versa with corporate left media?

I think that might be fairly predictable.

[Mike]

Hey Dennis, your position has always been: if B and C are mostly beholden to A, then B and C are utterly worthless and hopelessly corrupt and nothing but the plaything of globalists and should therefore be dismissed entirely. I don't think that way! It is completely and totally dismissive of the thousands of individual constituents making up B and C (some very good people believe it or not); and, while their ability to function autonomously in a globalist run structure is limited, there is still quite a bit they can do to improve the lives of everyday people.

The war I'm concerned with now is the culture war. It's the most dangerous threat affecting us atm. Our very sanity hangs in the balance. This is all being pumped thru the left. At the moment, the only thing stopping them is the right. So this is pretty simple for me. I'm not at all convinced that they're playing for the same team, certainly not overtly and I don't think covertly either(as rgray222 and Star Mariner explained so well). I don't mean to sound unfeeling, but atm I don't care who is bombing who in the middle east or elsewhere, because I live here and I only have so much energy to go around and I'm being forced to use it all defending myself from this lunacy.

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Stephen King he's another uninformed idiot who thinks a white guy shot some black guys in Kenosha. Wow. I saw a few interviews with some NBA players last night, and they all appear to believe the same thing. Amazing! I want to see all their faces when they are finally made aware that a white guy killed 2 white guys. A white guy can't even kill other white guys without it being "white supremacy" Think about that one for a moment!

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Heres how I see it: If the the main criticism of the mainstream media is that they're mostly beholden to their corporate masters, then the main criticism of the alternative media is that they're mostly beholden to a spirit of endless cynicism towards the mainstream. It's all very dark, I'll grant you that, but I'm still looking for shafts of light

[jaybee]

Posted by Mike (here)

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Stephen King he's another uninformed idiot who thinks a white guy shot some black guys in Kenosha. Wow. I saw a few interviews with some NBA players last night, and they all appear to believe the same thing. Amazing! I want to see all their faces when they are finally made aware that a white guy killed 2 white guys. A white guy can't even kill other white guys without it being "white supremacy" Think about that one for a moment!

[snip]

Just pathetic how uninformed Stephen King and others are about basic facts in the Rittenhouse Case -

It's actually quite frightening how supposedly intelligent people can be so stupid...

After seeing your post I went and looked to see what he was tweeting and saw this...from last night when you would have thought he would have caught up with the fact about the dead men being white... but no retraction if he did..

https://twitter.com/StephenKing/stat...81415318769668

So...the white guy goes free. Is that the message?
7:40 PM · Nov 19, 2021

I remember when the term 'white supremacist' was being deliberately inserted in Official Narratives run by the MSM - a few years ago around the beginning of the Trump presidency and I thought - aye aye what are they up to here... and the psychological operation around spreading this 'white supremacy' thing has grown and grown -

As far as I'm concerned it's all about destroying Western Culture and even eventually possibly removing the White Race itself... (in a kind of staggered genocide) and idiots like Stephen King (et al) are helping it happen...

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Anyway - to get back to the thread topic more... Tim Pool, like Jimmy Dore is an example of honest sincere Alternative Media...

He says in this video that he has lost friends over the Rittenhouse Case -

Media CONTINUES Lying About Kyle Rittenhouse, They Keep Doubling Down (11:54)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QOsRJuUtgl8

[Mike]

Hi Jaybee, well I've just done it - I made my first tweet!

I informed King that the victims were all white. Perhaps I've done my duty for the day.

However, he could have very well meant that white people, in general, get let off the hook, in general, whenever they commit a crime. Regardless, I sent him a condescending message anyway because, well...it just felt good lol

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posted by Gracy (here)
In this instance you used Breitbart, which is a corporate right outlet news source that does the same thing, they play to their demographic. If that verdict would have gone the other way they more than likely would have howled, but it turned out the way that fits their running narrative, so they applauded it.

Where in the article did they applaud it? I didn't see any editorialising in the article at all. They were doing only what journalists should be doing - reporting on a story. In this case the collective meltdown of Hollyweird celebs responding to the Rittenhouse case.

They provided only basic facts, with this quite even-handed summary:

Kyle Rittenhouse was acquitted of all charges on Friday following three days of jury deliberation. The 18-year-old faced two charges of murder, one charge of attempted murder, and two charges of reckless endangerment stemming from last year’s Black Lives Matter riots that saw large parts of Kenosha burn to the ground.

Rittenhouse’s attorneys argued their client acted in self-defense when he was attacked while helping to defend property against violent rioters. Rittenhouse shot and killed two rioters after they threatened him — Joseph Rosenbaum, who reached for Rittenhouse’s rifle, and Anthony Huber, who hit Rittenhouse in the head and neck with a skateboard, and reached for the rifle.

Hollywood celebrities didn’t appear concerned with the details of the case when they reacted with rage to the jury’s decision.

Then they proceeded to list, one-by-one, the tweets and outbursts in question.

I don't know if Kyle Rittenhouse is truly guilty or innocent either. No courtroom on this earth can do that with 100% accuracy. Personally I neither condone or condemn his acquittal. And I find it just as distasteful to celebrate the kid as a hero, as damn him as the devil. But I don't see Breitbart doing anything here but reporting on a story - without spin, hyperbole, or melodramatics. That they're right-leaning, to me, actually means they're relatively sane and grounded.

[jaybee]

Posted by Mike (here)
Hi Jaybee, well I've just done it - I made my first tweet!

I informed King that the victims were all white. Perhaps I've done my duty for the day.

However, he could have very well meant that white people, in general, get let off the hook, in general, whenever they commit a crime. Regardless, I sent him a condescending message anyway because, well...it just felt good lol

Indeed you have done your duty for the day and good job -

[Gracy]

Posted by Star Mariner (here)

Posted by Gracy (here)
In this instance you used Breitbart, which is a corporate right outlet news source that does the same thing, they play to their demographic. If that verdict would have gone the other way they more than likely would have howled, but it turned out the way that fits their running narrative, so they applauded it.

Where in the article did they applaud it? I didn't see any editorialising in the article at all. They were doing only what journalists should be doing - reporting on a story. In this case the collective meltdown of Hollyweird celebs responding to the Rittenhouse case.

They provided only basic facts, with this quite even-handed summary:

You're right Star Mariner. My bad! I did what I usually don't do in this particular case, that being taking due diligence in reading, before commenting.

I conflated seeing applause elsewhere in reaction to the verdict, Breitbart's focusing on extreme reactions from the other side, and the banner at the top displaying trending subjects below (which of course are all Right leaning), and lumping them into a conclusion that simply was not true.

I do still think the Right in general was looking for not guilty, but as you correctly point out, the actual reporting from Breitbart was pretty straight forward:

RITTENHOUSE NOT GUILTY - COVID-1984 - DEM SPENDING BONANZA - BIDENFLATION - CLIMATE CRAZIES - BORDER CRISIS

Posted by Star Mariner (here)
That they're right-leaning, to me, actually means they're relatively sane and grounded.

Now this opinion I still find arguable. Obviously we agree there's a lot of hyperbole coming from the Left, but I see a lot of it coming from the Right as well.

[Ernie Nemeth]

In this case, I don't need the media to tell me their conclusion. I watched the footage and saw the thing unfold. After watching many videos from many angles I concluded the man acted in self defence.

If I now want more information, I have to find outlets that have concluded the same thing, as only they will know where to look for the info I want. I don't care about rhetoric, agendas, or questions of should he have been there in the first place. I want to know if justice will be served, and I am concerned about how the media in general will portray the incident.

This trial by public opinion, instigated by the media and special interest groups, is something I have to find a way around to get to the truth because they are so obviously slanting the narrative.

[Gracy]

Posted by jaybee (here)
Anyway - to get back to the thread topic more... Tim Pool, like Jimmy Dore is an example of honest sincere Alternative Media...

Hi jaybee,

Funny you mention Jimmy Dore, big fan here. Not taking a jab here, it's just an opportune time to bring up something that's been bothering me about his popularity gaining traction here. Jimmy's more of the old fashioned true lefty that despises this abomination of what the corporate left represents, when that's not really even left at all, and he would love nothing more than to see them all sent packing. He was all gung ho for "The Squad" early on, but once he saw them starting to line up behind the likes of Nancy Pelosi, they came into his crosshairs as well.

So while I think it's great seeing him gaining more attention, the problem (as I see it) is that it's only when he's railing against the "left" (and much deservedly so!). But somehow when he rails against say, Donald Trump for example, those videos are passed over.

That he possesses the objectivity to stand by his passionate principles and calls out bulls**t on both sides, wherever he finds it, is why I originally took such a liking to him in the first place. That tells me he's a straight shooter, call 'em like he sees 'em kind of a commentator, and that's what I look for.

It's just kind of a bummer seeing only his anti left videos being used as another sledge hammer against them, when there are others like the one below that never seem to see the light of day here, and don't show the other side of his work, rendering it one sided.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cZD3QJi3xO0

[jaybee]

Posted by Gracy (here)

Posted by jaybee (here)
Anyway - to get back to the thread topic more... Tim Pool, like Jimmy Dore is an example of honest sincere Alternative Media...

Hi jaybee,

Funny you mention Jimmy Dore, big fan here. Not taking a jab here, it's just an opportune time to bring up something that's been bothering me about his popularity gaining traction here. Jimmy's more of the old fashioned true lefty that despises this abomination of what the corporate left represents, when that's not really even left at all, and he would love nothing more than to see them all sent packing. He was all gung ho for "The Squad" early on, but once he saw them starting to line up behind the likes of Nancy Pelosi, they came into his crosshairs as well.

So while I think it's great seeing him gaining more attention, the problem (as I see it) is that it's only when he's railing against the "left" (and much deservedly so!). But somehow when he rails against say, Donald Trump for example, those videos are passed over.

That he possesses the objectivity to stand by his passionate principles and calls out bulls**t on both sides, wherever he finds it, is why I originally took such a liking to him in the first place. That tells me he's a straight shooter, call 'em like he sees 'em kind of a commentator, and that's what I look for.

It's just kind of a bummer seeing only his anti left videos being used as another sledge hammer against them, when there are others like the one below that never seem to see the light of day here, and don't show the other side of his work, leaving it one sided.

I always actually thought that (although Jimmy Dore is basically honest and sincere) he misunderstood Trump (being a Populist) and he could have made more use of his presidency than he did - he (Dore) is only human at the end of the day and there was obviously a lot of pressure from the left for him to do some anti Trump stuff.... so he did a bit (not much I don't think..) to try and keep the balance - that's how I see it -

Now I haven't watched all the Jimmy Dore Show videos but I remember when Trump authorized a bit of bombing in Syria... that I was against.... and I remember Alex Jones actually cried on air about it - Jimmy asked on a show.... who in the MSM has spoken out against it? and the question was answered in the comments that Tucker Carlson had done an anti war piece on it -

Jimmy has been on the Tucker Carlson Show a couple of times and I think he got a lot of stick about that from the 'left' - and in the same way I think he could have got some mileage out of Trump - but he never went there...

He (Dore) has made comments that Biden is worse than Trump - and as you know he is very critical of the Democratic Party - putting a lot of pressure on them when he can - like forcing the vote on medicare... think it was Medicare For All... and he really lays into the 'squad' about it...

So - in conclusion - and to keep it brief.... I don't think he has done all that much anti Trump stuff and I think he's more interested in holding the Democrats to account -

[ExomatrixTV]

Would Darrell e Brooks Jr a rapper known as "MathBoi Fly" have done what he did (killing/murdering 5 people and heavily injuring others with his SUV car) if Liberal part of Mainstream Media did its job correctly & honestly dealing with Kyle Rittenhouse mass media coverage last months?

cheers,
John

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=AfTLrl6VLwc

[Dennis Leahy]

ExomatrixTV John, RGray, Star Mariner, and Mike, did you read my post? https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1464379 The reason I ask is because I don't want to reiterate the same points.

John and Star Mariner, I think it is important to recognize that the Democrat usurpers that pretend to be "the Left" have no overlap at all with "the Left." The US Democrats are (overt) globalist corporatists and militarists. (The US Republicans are militarists as well, and globalist corporatists that pretend to be just "pro-business", but anyone who has seen the graphic of the Global Corporate Network realizes that there is no such thing as a separate network of American corporations. There is only one Global Corporate Network. It has no national borders. All who are corporatists are globalists supporting globalism, regardless the spin of their propaganda or their God Bless America lapel pins. No one is defending the virtues of "the Left" ideological positions, and to repeat and repeat that what Democrats are doing is "the Left's" ideological positions being expressed is powerful propaganda. Who in the hell (who hears what Democrats are doing while being mislabeled as the Left) would ever want any sort of "Left" policies?

Let's just call them Democrats and Republicans, and stop pretending either of these 2 mobster gangs is Left or Right ideologically.

I know that semantically it's comfortable to assign the value of "Left" to the dominant US duopoly party that presumably opposes the US duopoly party that defines itself as "right", but it is a powerful misnomer, it propagandizes the word "Left" into the degrading reality of neoliberalism (which in itself is really rebranded neoconservatism on steroids.) There really is a "Left" viewpoint ideologically and philosophically that is citizen-centric, anti-corporate control, anti-military beyond an actual defensive force, pro-environment, pro-individual freedom within the confines of not harming others, and pro-sharing by citizens of the nation's resources. That's not the Democrats.

It shouldn't be impossible to speak of the US political theater as a battle between corporate Democrats and corporate Republicans rather than a battle between "Left" and "Right" when it's really two corporatist rugby teams fighting over possession of the football.

Mike, there definitely is a culture war going on, and it is important to point out the bullsh!t, but a guy in a dress in a woman's bathroom just doesn't hold my attention very long while the US Empire's life/death/subjugation stranglehold issues are glossed-over. I also consider it flag-waving bullsh!t to cherry-pick some perceived good words from some US high office politician or mainstream news reader as if there are some good guys within those organizations slogging it out for the people (and that it could lead to meaningful change.)

The mainstream "news" and US federal government are currently critical participants in the covid-19 plandemic conspiracy and cover-up, just as they were for 9/11, JFK's public execution, and the suppression of advanced non-fossil energy technology conspiracy.

You mentioned that you have watched "The Power Principle" and so you now know the real history of US-corporate-military imperialism, at least in Central America. John Perkins handed us the playbook of how it really works, how the US military and CIA and Empire thinktanks (in concert with global central banks) operate national takeovers, and how the mainstream media ignores/suppresses the real story. We are currently being lied to via MSM, propagandized by the US federal government and the deep state about Venezuela, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Russia, China, Israel, Palestine, AI, the surveillance state, covid-19 and 'vaccines', and maintaining lies (mainly by omission) about previous major conspiracies. Shouldn't that reality be at the forefront, rather than lauding some little snippets of truth (or quasi-truth) that squeak out of the machine occasionally?


RGray, you speak of the corporate mass media (the existing mass media) as if they have independence from the corporations that own them, and the corporations that partially own or are tied to them. This has been fantasy for a long time. 80% of what the "news" reader reads was literally written directly by the State Department and/or from corporations PR departments. There is no "Fourth Estate" anymore - even the alternative Fourth Estate's lead guy is rotting in Belmarsh prison. The job of the mainstream media, the corporate mass media, is to conceal reality from you. They conceal the really big underlying reality and replace it with pop reality (true crap about celebs), news that is innocuous to Empire, distorted managed manipulated doctored spun stories and bold lies that cover-up reality and promote false reality on big stories and corporate agenda, and local (true) stories. You are completely missing the big picture of what mainstream media actually does when you sift through the vomit and find a little piece of undigested carrot (a "news" story you believe is accurate.)

[ExomatrixTV]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
ExomatrixTV John, RGray, Star Mariner, and Mike, did you read my post? https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1464379 The reason I ask is because I don't want to reiterate the same points.

• already explained myself a bit further here

cheers,
John

[Mark]

Everybody is right and wrong. When I first ran for office, I got interviewed by a local television station. I was working on criminal justice reform, the interview happened in 2019 early in the process. Hadn’t been in office long and wanted to share a truth about me, as it was pertinent. Namely, that I’d been arrested before.

Since it was my first time on camera in an interview format I was nervous as hell but I told my story as succinctly as possible. I felt better afterwards, confident that I’d said enough and it would no longer be an issue. That folks could reference the interview when and if it got brought up later to be used against me, as did indeed happen in the fall of 2020.

Well, imagine my surprise when I watch the interview and, right out of the gate, there are two things stated that I never said. Those two things were integral to my story and later implicated me as lying, when I did no such thing. I told the truth, but what I said wasn’t included in the media clips. The reporter, in her characterization of my experience, misstated what I said, deliberately or not, I have no idea.

There was some good truth in the interview and there were some bad lies in it. I was later given the great advice not to speak in sound bites when it is important. To make long statements that can’t be cut up and parsed to stand alone and used against me. The MSM is aggressive and reactive and the AltCom has become more like it to compete, utilizing hyperbole and gross mischaracterizations and false equivalencies to draw connections that may not truly exist.

I consider it all the news cycle and the echo chamber of spin these days and pay little in-depth attention to either. I watch the news for emergencies only. Not to learn a thing.

[Mike]

Dennis I read everything you said! I read your reply to me twice actually. And it's pretty much exactly what you always say when it comes to this stuff: there's neocons and neolibs, and they're on the same team - the globalist team - and they're all irredeemable trash, and everything they touch is irredeemable trash, and if you think you're getting any truth out of them or anything they touch or breath on, whatsoever, you're hopelessly naive and lost etc. I got it!

Respectfully, I think you've had your head buried in that playbook for so long that you're missing some important details. To begin with, I don't view these globalists as just one big blob of homogeneous agreement. Within the globalist ranks there are, I would strongly guess, numerous factions with various agendas..all competing over this and that. And I would imagine that there are some factions that are opposed to some of the evil being perpetuated by the other factions. It's much more likely that there's a non-stop power-play between the competing factions - factions with varying levels of malevolence and benevolence - than one harmonious, irredeemably evil crime family making decisions on who to bomb over wine and linguini.

My guess is that some of those factions actually disagreed with (and maybe even tried to prevent) some of the tragedies we've witnessed in the not too distant past, like 9-11 for example. I think the relationships between the groups/factions that make up the globalists/illuminatti/ controllers/international cabal - or whatever one wishes to call them - are much more complex and complicated than you're giving them credit for.

For example: I think this culture war sh!t - which you're dramatically underestimating btw, and you know this - has all been socially engineered by one of these globalist/illuminatti factions. But I don't think it has the endorsement of all of them. Just look around, it's obvious. So what does that mean? It suggests to me that the various factions are slugging it out..and the fight is trickling down to the mainstream media, alternative media, social media, etc. To simply reject it all outright is missing the plot as far as I'm concerned.

One thing you may not have considered is this: it may just be that, despite all the corruption and greed and evil that does indeed exist across all levels of bureaucracy(and beyond) that we're actually remarkably fortunate that things aren't infinitely worse. Maybe, just maybe there'd be 9-11's every week if it wasn't for certain factions in this globalist group preventing it from happening. Who knows?

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by Mike (here)
Dennis I read everything you said! I read your reply to me twice actually. And it's pretty much exactly what you always say when it comes to this stuff: there's neocons and neolibs, and they're on the same team - the globalist team - and they're all irredeemable trash, and everything they touch is irredeemable trash, and if you think you're getting any truth out of them or anything they touch or breath on, whatsoever, you're hopelessly naive and lost etc. I got it!

Respectfully, I think you've had your head buried in that playbook for so long that you're missing some important details. To begin with, I don't view these globalists as just one big blob of homogeneous agreement. Within the globalist ranks there are, I would strongly guess, numerous factions with various agendas..all competing over this and that. And I would imagine that there are some factions that are opposed to some of the evil being perpetuated by the other factions. It's much more likely that there's a non-stop power-play between the competing factions - factions with varying levels of malevolence and benevolence - than one harmonious, irredeemably evil crime family making decisions on who to bomb over wine and linguini.

My guess is that some of those factions actually disagreed with (and maybe even tried to prevent) some of the tragedies we've witnessed in the not too distant past, like 9-11 for example. I think the relationships between the groups/factions that make up the globalists/illuminatti/ controllers/international cabal - or whatever one wishes to call them - are much more complex and complicated than you're giving them credit for.

For example: I think this culture war sh!t - which you're dramatically underestimating btw, and you know this - has all been socially engineered by one of these globalist/illuminatti factions. But I don't think it has the endorsement of all of them. Just look around, it's obvious. So what does that mean? It suggests to me that the various factions are slugging it out..and the fight is trickling down to the mainstream media, alternative media, social media, etc. To simply reject it all outright is missing the plot as far as I'm concerned.

One thing you may not have considered is this: it may just be that, despite all the corruption and greed and evil that does indeed exist across all levels of bureaucracy(and beyond) that we're actually remarkably fortunate that things aren't infinitely worse. Maybe, just maybe there'd be 9-11's every week if it wasn't for certain factions in this globalist group preventing it from happening. Who knows?

Hey, Mike

I guess I was hoping you'd point out something specific I said that you disagree with on this topic. I'm not speaking in hyperbole about the overall effect of the corporate mass media, and that its primary function is to paint a picture, to create a plausible illusion of reality that makes the fascist overlords look like boy scouts. They even got you a little.

" I think the relationships between the groups/factions that make up the globalists/illuminatti/ controllers/international cabal - or whatever one wishes to call them - are much more complex and complicated than you're giving them credit for." The topic of my overall big big big picture observations is outside of this thread, but I'll say here that your guess missed the mark. I think I need to reference the graphic 3D chart that is the fingerprint of the Global Corporate Network. I see little evidence of a tiny select group of controllers from whence all the bad juju flows, but I repeatedly see evidence of clusters of corporations, sectors of industry and commerce (like the pharma sector is doing now), and sometimes solo corporations (like Monsanto did), surging forward in establishing, maintaining, and building their self serving (evil) agenda. The effect on the Global Corporate Network follows that, it doesn't start "from the top", because in many ways, there is no top. No tip-top king of the underworld that makes all the decisions. But the entire Global Corporate Network is fed when any node is fed. All of their yachts do rise together with the rising tide.

I'll have to find a reference to the article that I read that was the result of a study of where the news came from. I'd guess that most of us are under the illusion that the news is written by reporters and investigative reporters, journalists, and edited by editors at news organizations. The study showed that 80% of what we hear as news is really written directly by corporate PR departments and agencies of the US federal government. Unsurprisingly, the corporations are always shown with a positive spin, no matter how heinous the reality, and by god, none of the heinous reality will be discussed. The words written by the federal agencies are pure propaganda (now it's legal propaganda, thanks Obama.)

When one asks about comparing the mainstream news or alternate news for credibility, it isn't the news organizations and TV personalities that we are really talking about, since they don't write the news, they just read it. Tucker Carlson sneaked in some truth (about Syria) in one of his pieces once, but he's an "opinion" guy, not the news guy. They didn't let the news guy say that. News organizations have sheets of paper from the White House that very carefully tell the (official, bullsh!t) narrative, and the news reader guy reads the words.

Almost all the "news" stories about the US federal government broadcast on mainstream TV were written by the US federal government agency paid propagandists and spin doctors. If you believe in white hats, surely you can see that they are never the ones writing stories to be released as news. (I used to think there are good factions within the US federal government. The "white hats." I don't see any evidence of it. I see the agenda makers and the complicit.) Even more powerful is the omitted news ("If the public knew what we have done...") that no white hat in the government is sneaking into the news nor mass media teleprompter guy is reading.

I know it's sobering, but this isn't an emotional "Debbie Downer" thing or just bitch-slapping mainstream media. It's honest observation. I think I would be very disingenuous (or ignorant) to recommend to someone that they can find out the true story, the truth, on any big issue from mainstream news corporations.

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I also read everything you said Dennis, and largely agree with it.

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
I think I would be very disingenuous (or ignorant) to recommend to someone that they can find out the true story, the truth, on any big issue from mainstream news corporations.

At the end of the day I already know the true story. I speak only of the wider picture: what's right and what's wrong; what's good and what's bad; what's of the light and what's not. All the myriad details and complexities of things like geo-politics and its factions and agendas are secondary and out of my hands. They are beyond my reach to change.

There's really no point in calling out the Emperor, his Sith minions, or even the storm-troopers. That's not a battle we can win. Not even an inch of ground we can gain. All we can do is spread the Jedi truth and keep it intact.

Because what concerns me most at this present time is what's happening to Western culture: the tearing of its fabric, the cracking of its foundations. We can talk sincerely and persuasively all day long about right wing / left wing and our collective opposition to "establishment", but what good would it do? What chance do we have as a species when society itself is dissolving before our eyes?

We are entering a world of surveillance, mandates, maybe even segregation. A world of enforced conformity, a place where common sense is hate speech, and obedience integrity. A world where virtues are redefined and universal values inverted: I call it upside-down world, populated entirely by lunatics and hypocrites. Which is probably what they want: a world of woke, godless NPCs, utterly controlled and utterly distracted/divided, and therefore utterly passive when it comes to opposing this Global Corporate colossus.

That's the only picture I was trying to paint. Because when I hear the left media, I'm like, "that's manipulation," or "that's race baiting," or "that's just bullsh!t." But when I find myself watching or listening to the right-leaning media on these cultural or social talking points I'm like, "yup, that's true," or "yup, that's the way I see it," or "yup, I totally agree."

Make no mistake, there is a war raging against us and around us. At stake are our minds and our very souls. I firmly believe that. And the only ones in the mainstream media who seem to be taking any kind of stand, offering any kind of antidote to the insanity, are the right-leaning ones.

For me, it's as simple as that.