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    I adore dreams. When I sleep, I can imagine anything. And it seems so real. What if it doesn’t seem like it is, it’s just that we haven’t realized it yet?

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    Hi JackWhite

    Life is but a DREAM

    I'm sure you know of "The Dreaming"
    Quote The Dreaming is used to represent Aboriginal concepts of Everywhen, during which the land was inhabited by ancestral figures, often of heroic proportions or with supernatural abilities. These figures were often distinct from gods, as they did not control the material world and were not worshipped but only revered. The concept of the Dreamtime has subsequently become widely adopted beyond its original Australian context and is now part of global popular culture.
    Sauce: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dreaming

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    Quote it’s just that we haven’t realized it yet?
    Dreams, what is reality?

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    "Is all that we see or seem
    But a dream within a dream?"
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    Default Re: What if dreams are the same reality as the one into which we are now?

    The only activity, at its base level, that defines an entity as distinct from Source, is to "dream".

    The only distinction for consideration is the rigidity of the environment that one is dreaming within. As a distinct expression from Source without a physical carnation, creation of experience via dreaming is the method of relationships between entities. Without a physical incarnation, dreams in this state are fluid and change immediately in response to emotional expression. We would describe such a place as the spiritual plane.

    This is also the same with dreaming while you are asleep. While asleep, you are unbound by physical limitations, and so the creation you experience is a direct result of your emotional expression, and the mingling of your creations with others, to form relationships.

    All creatures dream while sleeping - it is ubiquitous. That is because all there actually is, for any expression of Source is to dream. There is nothing else. In fact, the brain itself, shows no signs of distinctiveness in its operation between dreaming while asleep, and activity while awake. A trained neroscientists cannot tell the difference in brain activity between a wake conscious individual doing regular physical activities, and brain activity in a person who is asleep, and dreaming about physical activities. Its the exact same, except our brain has a feature that shuts down all physical movement while you sleep, so you don't get up and act out the dream. But its all the exact same thing.

    We feel that our waking physical life as distinct from "dreaming" but it is not, except by rigidity of the physical environment, and the resultant seemingly rigid feedback loop that can occur where the experience feeds back to support the dream via your emotional response to the experience.

    At the physical universe level, the dream is slowed to the point that things seem solid and rigid, and bound by rules. This is true to some extent, out universe does follow the laws of quantum mechanics, and we have to dream inside of that structure. The reason why this is such a different experience is that while our emotional expressions do have impact while having a physical carnation, they do not immediately change or alter the creation of the dream, as we would see when we are dis-incarnate or sleeping.

    Consistent control of our emotional expressions is required to influence the big "physical realm" dream, else that emotional expression acts like static in relationship to the very slowly changing physical realm, and accomplishes nothing to change the physical realm dream. Understanding this is a key towards manifestation in the physical realm, and also towards understanding a big part of advanced spirituality, as it is in its raw format.

    So the OP premise, is exactly what reality is. There is only dream, it is the totality of all creation. The only variables that create major distinction is the rigidity of the environment in which the dream is being had. And the source of the dream is an entities emotional expression. Consider this is process is attempted to be defined by great spiritual leaders of the past, and the descriptions of a "heaven" or a "hell" - each being a description of the result of the emotional expression that any being is expressing at a given time. Heaven and hell are states of being, states of expression. Not places you go when you die - only the religions have ever said that, not the teachers.
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    Default Re: What if dreams are the same reality as the one into which we are now?

    Jack

    I love dreams and dreaming as well. And I consider a lucid dream, when I have one , a real gift.
    You are free! free of consequence of any actions. what an amazing gift and I wish I could lucid dream every night.

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    Default Re: What if dreams are the same reality as the one into which we are now?

    One Question though, My sister Used to sleep walk. and talk as she did so, did she lack the brain function that is said prevents movement during sleep?

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    Imagine that you decide to live in a dream which lasts for 80 years or more and you take it to be the ultimate reality as it feels so real.
    "When you've seen beyond yourself, then you may find, peace of mind is waiting there." ~ George Harrison

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    Quote Posted by JackWhite (here)
    I adore dreams. When I sleep, I can imagine anything. And it seems so real. What if it doesn’t seem like it is, it’s just that we haven’t realized it yet?
    Pay attention to your dreams! Quite often it is our higher self or others getting in touch with us. Our world is approaching some very "interesting" times. At a higher level, we've made some kind of "agreement" to be part of this. Chances are, many of us are receiving communications through our dreams, and from that perspective, are actually doing spiritual work in our dreams...

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    One Question though, My sister Used to sleep walk. and talk as she did so, did she lack the brain function that is said prevents movement during sleep?

    Asking DeDukshyn.
    Sleepwalking occurs if the part of the brain that is supposed to suppress movement doing REM sleep does not get fully activated when in REM, for whatever reason. I imagine there are several reasons why this occurs, what they all are, I do not know - I'm not a sleep disorder expert. I do imagine though that this can be both potentially be a serious condition or not a serious condition that only happens occasionally. Bottom line is that sleepwalking is REM sleep that occurs when that part of the brain that suppress motor function, does not get properly activated, and thus the affected person gets up and acts out the dream - as the brain cannot tell the difference between dream state and waking state - it is exactly the same.
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    Default Re: What if dreams are the same reality as the one into which we are now?

    dreams and reality is different but both are worth living. One you live while awake and the other while you are asleep. What could be better than that. you are having experience all the time. There are times when I dream almost every night and times where non for up to a month. I prefer the former.
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    I do astral travel sometimes, it was more intense in the past, when I dream or have nightmares it is so intense and vivid that the remaining of that dream keep in my memory for days, some for years, I used to write it down in a notebook every morning after wake up, but i lost that habit.
    Sometimes the dreams, I see myself formless, no body only the energy, I believe it is me, but who knows exactly! Also came in contact with negative entities quite a few times, dark energies, angry spirits I guess, etc..
    My last vivid dream was actually a nightmare where earth was totally destroyed, people dying and dead everywhere, total chaos, I woke up in panic to realize it was a nightmare, I still remember details of it, I was walking through the dead and suffering, watching it all, but somehow I was invisible to all of them, nobody could see me or kill me in this nightmare.

    Most part of the time I do not dream anymore or at least I can't remember a thing.
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    My favorite dream, years ago was coming up upon a round craft that reminded me of the game Simon I had as a child. Though the lights and colors were far more brilliant. Standing under the craft were these beings that I can only describe as crystal like prism beings. As I approached them I heard in a thundering echo like chamber say:”Light, sound, color, vibration, tone and frequency…THESE are the modalities of healing.” It was amazing!

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    Quote Posted by heretogrow (here)
    My favorite dream, years ago was coming up upon a round craft that reminded me of the game Simon I had as a child. Though the lights and colors were far more brilliant. Standing under the craft were these beings that I can only describe as crystal like prism beings. As I approached them I heard in a thundering echo like chamber say:”Light, sound, color, vibration, tone and frequency…THESE are the modalities of healing.” It was amazing!

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    You are such a lovely, kind person, I am so glad you were given the gift of such a beautiful and wise dream!

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    As an aside: I find that strong cheddar cheese and bad (good ) whiskey-just before retiring to bed, bring the on the best (bad) dreams.

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    Default Re: What if dreams are the same reality as the one into which we are now?

    "What if it doesn’t seem like it is, it’s just that we haven’t realized it yet?"

    -What if your dreams don't seem real anymore ? is that your question Jackwhite?

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    Quote Posted by heretogrow (here)
    My favorite dream, years ago was coming up upon a round craft that reminded me of the game Simon I had as a child. Though the lights and colors were far more brilliant. Standing under the craft were these beings that I can only describe as crystal like prism beings. As I approached them I heard in a thundering echo like chamber say:”Light, sound, color, vibration, tone and frequency…THESE are the modalities of healing.” It was amazing!

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    right on! That's what I'm talking about. I'll bet a lot more people are getting these messages than they realize. We can collectively make a difference in making this world a better place... Namaste

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    Thank you for such a wonderful and detailed answer. I discovered a lot for myself. And this is so incredible. How interesting it is to live and be!

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    How did you manage to achieve lucid sleep? Have you read about this somewhere? I would love to have a similar experience.

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    This is a very interesting opinion, I will definitely pay attention to it. Thank you very much, it gave me a lot of thoughts.

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    Quote Posted by JackWhite (here)
    I adore dreams. When I sleep, I can imagine anything. And it seems so real. What if it doesn’t seem like it is, it’s just that we haven’t realized it yet?
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